With thanks to Grizz Khan (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebaeipSgsbTbZaM.html) and Ty of AFTV (kzfaq.info/love/BTy8j2cPy6zw68godcE7MQ)

Ty is literally the living embodiment of talking to a brick wall.

The Liverpool fan brought a lot of reasonable points to the table, he seems like a nice guy. Ty is just a manchild, interrupting and shouting to try and get his point across

Man said "£800 billion" with a straight face, I'm dead 🤣🤣🤣

When Ty was up against the spurs fan he based his entire argument on the amount of trophies in the cabinet. Now hes up against a Liverpool fan all of a sudden he doesn’t want to do that

As an Arsenal fan, we would just like to apologise for Ty and he does not represent the majority of Arsenal fans.

Ty really needs to understand that debating isn’t for him. Shouting and screaming and talking 100 miles an hour doesn’t mean you’re running. Grizz owned him. Constructive and showed him how it’s done like a man who knows the game.

The amount of patience from this Liverpool fan is crazy. Respect for that. I wouldn't know how to even talk to this disillusioned person on my best day.

Liverpool have 19 leagues and 6 Champions leagues... I think the first question is obvious and even the most biased Arsenal fan couldn't argue that... as soon as Ty went strongly disagree we really should question if he's a Spurs fan sabotaging Arsenal's image at this point.

“We’ve won 6 champions leagues” “We have the most fa cups” My brain will never recover from How stupid that logic is

Never get TY on again. Absolutely pointless. This would have been perfect with literally ANYONE else 🤣

Mbappe :- i won world cup Ty :- i had invincibles💀

6 CLs got compared to team that won 1 PL undefeated 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

This isnt a debate, this is just tragic. Mad respect to Grizz for the way he conducted himself against that deluded babyman.

The second Ty valued Arsenal at £800billion means he lost any and all future arguments. Honestly at a loss.

I felt the second hand embarrassment at the valuation of 800 billion 😂😂

So this is ty’s argument Have you got an invincible team Has kloop coached an invincible team Is Gerard part of an invincible team 🤣

As an Arsenal fan I'd rather have someone like Robbie representing us instead of Ty. You can't have a debate with him on any topic.

that's literally a form of torture when you put ANYBODY in a debate with Ty. why you gotta torture the Liverpool fan? he's got human rights ya know.. and i'm a United fan but he don't deserve this..

I’d be gutted if I was an Arsenal fan and this guy was representing the fan collective.

If I was asked to do this discussion, and I walked in and saw Ty sitting at the table, I'd just turn around and walk out. I dont think you could have a reasonable discussion with the lad no matter what the topic is.

As a united fan I never thought I'd like a Liverpool fan but the man tries to have a legitimate debate where Ty just talks over him and repeats himself like an idiot.

Absolutely hated Ty was probably one of the worst “debates” I’ve heard

The amount of patience that liverpool fan had is crazy

Ty is an ideal example of an Arsenal fan...I feel so bad for that club...

As an Arsenal fan, I would like to personally apologise to grizz for trying to debate with ty. He does not represent us sensible Arsenal fans. Idek why ladbilbe chose him over someone like Turkish or Lee judges for this show

This was a very painful 20 minutes to watch, it's almost like it's parody at this stage with the way Ty conducts himself

Come on man, as an Arsenal fan I’d easily give up the invincible season if it meant we have 6 champions league championships

Arsenal valued at £800 billion. This was the moment I realised Grizz has way more patience than me, I wouldve walked out.

Ty’s mum: Ty have you done your washing up? Ty: Have you had an invincible season? Ty’s mum: Ffs

Please don’t get Ty back on this. Interrupts the other person while speaking, and doesn’t have any logic, just Arsenal no matter what. He said arsenal was worth 800 billion come on man. He probably think arsenal has a better team than Liverpool right now.

Mad respect to Grizz for being so calm & composed given Ty’s lunacy. Ty’s answer to what Arsenal’s valuation of $800b is absolutely priceless & terrifyingly absurd is borders on insanity. Lol

This is horrible. Good job Grizz with facts and leaving emotions out of this conversation

Ty said 4 years ago on AFTV that Liverpool are the biggest club in England and since then Liverpool have won it all and we've won 1 fa cup but now arsenal are bigger

The Liverpool fan has the patience of a saint, fair play to him 👏🏻

Grizz conducted himself brilliantly!! His claims were able to be backed by reasoning and facts as to why he has the opinions that he has. It is a massive shame that the person on the other side of the table argues his debates on emotion and does not listen to what the other person has to say. It is a very dangerous way to go into a debate as it leads to your credibility go down quicker than it took Arsenal to and stupid-money contracts to Ozil and Aubameyang 🤣. Have an Arsenal fan who is a calmer and more honest and less indenial and we will have a proper debate. I am a Liverpool fan, my dad is an Arsenal fan and we both respect our clubs equally and have good discussions. This was not a good discussion and props to Grizz again for how he handled it :)

17:53 this is too funny man 🤣

The Liverpool guy is on point, I have much respect for him. This arsenal fan is a total embarrassment and a total muppet. He needs help.

As an Arsenal fan I am embarrassed to have Ty represent us in this video. How can a man of that age not know how to participate in a debate. It’s like talking to a wall ffs.

Haha Ladbible did Arsenal dirty with bringing TY 😂 😂 😂 love it!!! 🤣 🤣 🤣

Right when Ty said Arsenal is worth 800 billion, the room just went quiet because at this stage, it's not funny anymore. If anything, it's just tragic

Literally TY tried to win every conversation by talking fast😂😂

The patience of the other fella to put up with him is next level

Ironically, Tai is the single biggest reason for Arsenal being called a Banter Club

Imagine being an arsenal fan and having this joke represent your club how the fans even let him near the stadium never mind a camera makes the club a joke and laughingstock

Win percentage of Arsenal's Invincibles: 68% Win percentage of Liverpool's title winners: 84% Nowadays draws are essentially losses in the title race. Only wins matter.

I have watched 3 minutes and I know Ty is going to be unbearable... Oh he's just said Arsenal are worth £800bn now😂😂

I'm an Arsenal supporter. I know Grizz - we kicked a football about as local friends for years pre-1989, so the banter was good and he knew how to give it from way back. I wanted to watch this to see how my old teenage banter mate is doing ... it was painful to try and get past the first 5 minutes because of Ty. Headache inducing stuff. The guy is annoying AF. Grizz (Goh), keep doing your thing👊🏾

The funny thing about Ty mentioning 1989 is that after the final whistle Liverpool fans applauded the arsenal fans and team.. but Ty wouldn't know that.

I hate ty. "we have 6 champions leagues" "we have invincible team" they don't even come close

I mean, I’m an Arsenal fan. The idea we’re a bigger club than Liverpool is ridiculous. But I doubt Ty truly believes that as I’ve heard him say on AFTV streams that Liverpool are the biggest team in the country. He just fronts when opposed. It’s all good.

I've had to pause the video at "Anfield '89" just to compose myself 🤣🤣🤣 Ty is GOLD 💯

As a Liverpool fan I was excited to watch this but after I heard Ty start speaking It became painful to watch😭

Ty is actually infuriating. The most deluded football fan on earth, and one of the main reasons Arsenal are a banter club.

“It took you 30 years to win the league” yet Ty talks about the invincibles like it was yesterday. 18 years since they last won the league and counting.

6:34 is one of the most funny sentence ever said when talking about TY I ain't gonna lie hahaha

Guarantee Ty has Arsenal underpants

Ty talking about the 1930's over and over again is hilarious 🤣

His only argument is the invincible team. Having an invincible team doesn’t make you a big club at the end of the day it only counts as one league title😂

Man ,massive respect to the liverpool fan who resisted the unnecessary banter

i’m not even 5 minutes in yet 😂😂 I shouldn’t be taken aback after the years but this guy is still unbelievable

I am a Man City fan, but after watching this I want Liverpool to smash Arsenal tonight.

The invincible weren't invincible in Europe, stop living off that .Liverpool amassed more points than the invincible team did when they won the league. Ty's mad cringe

Ty’s response to everything 6:14 😂

200% support you TY. Shut those arguments down before they become a real convo.

The fact TY is the best representation for an Arsenal fan is banter enough

I hate that TY is an Arsenal fan I feel second-hand embarrassment🤦🏻‍♂️😅 Liverpool are a bigger club simple.

10:19 The look in his eyes and the way he said 'Yeah'. I think that's the point he realised that this guy might actually be a bit insane.

Man told us he’s over 50. If I didn’t know he’s been on AFTV for a decade I would have thought he said 15. And even that would have been a shock. The maturity of a toddler.

Please have this Liverpool fan on again. Loved his calm and rational discussions. Please get another Arsenal fan. He was hostile from the start and completely biased 🙄

I’m a Liverpool fan and it’s funny how other fanbases call our fanbase deluded when this Liverpool fan right here won every single argument.

For The Love Of God Out Of All Arsenal Fans They Chose Ty FFS🤦🏾🤡🤣

As an Arsenal fan i love ty's passion but he is deluded at times but respect to back our club with such passion

TY said arsenal worth 800 billion 🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Ty is 51, dressed up like a 12 year old going to his first away game.

Shoutout to the Liverpool fan for keeping his cool and not slapping ty’s INVINCIBLE shit out of him .

Ty thinks the invincibles happened like a year ago the way he talks about it lool

Love how Ty starts an argument before the guy has even said anything! Lol Even as a United Fan I can admit Liverpool are far greater a Team than Arsenal! They have won the league 19 times and could equal United's 20 Title record THIS Season. Arsenal haven't won the league in 18 Years. Liverpool have won the European Cup 6 times and been to 9 Finals! As well as winning the Uefa Cup 3 times and been to finals again. Arsenal Have been to 1 CL Final and lost it, and have also lost their last 3 finals in the Uefa Cup and Cup winners cup when that existed. They haven't won a European trophy since 1994! nearly 30 years. Plus they haven't even qualified for the Champions League since 2016 and since then Liverpool has been to 2 finals winning 1 of them! Ty banging on about a period in 30s is stupid. Huddersfield did the same thing and Liverpool have won back-to-back titles in their time too. Including the 1920s before Herbert Chapman era lol and they won it 3 years in a row 1982-84. And they have won the League 9 Times! Apart from the FA Cup there is nothing Arsenal have done that Liverpool hasn't match or bettered! As for the Invincibles, the argument would Ty would rather they hadn't won the League in 18 years, or that the 2004 team had lost 1 game but Arsenal was on 19 titles and in a title race THIS SEASON!

800 billion…enough internet for the day 😂😂😂😂

Respect to the Liverpool fan for his calmness and shows him how he wants to conduct himself while representing his club. Can’t say the same for the other guy who argues like a 12yo

"Let's go back to the 1930s" Jesus Christ 😂😂😂

The most calm level-headed knowledgeable LFC supporter vs Ty? Nah guys you did Arsenal a dirty here. You knew exactly what you were doing 😂

This Ty guy is generally Funny man,entertainment at it's best!! I feeling every guy he has debated against has been tempted to punch him, y'all should put him up with one of those United fans who were here previously

Arsenal’s value is 2.8 billion and this man calls himself an arsenal fan and says it’s worth 800billion 💀💀

He said 800 billion with a straight face 😂

Ty on these is just a waste. I want to see logical biased debate, there is no logic with Ty.

“It’s written in the stars” like that fantastic song by Tinie tempah 😂😂😂😂😂

Arsenal may well have had the most impressive Premier League campaign ever and their league win in 1989 was incredible, though other things happened that year that should put it into perspective. Does that outweigh the large discrepancy in league titles and European cups? No. The end.

Incredible how the liverpool fan stays calm during this guy shouting and spitting

When you do „Madrid is bigger than Arsenal“…TY: obviously Arsenal, Madrid never won the PL 🤷🏾‍♂️

I’ve had to come back to this 😂 Oi Ty is Wildddd lmao

The 800 billion thing epitomizes how delusional Ty is.

Really don’t get the whole “who’s the bigger club” argument in general, but how Ty can say “where’s your invincibles” when asked about 6 European cups is beyond me, arsenal huge club but Liverpool another level.

I like Grizz by alot. He is not biased and is calm, unlike Ty.

Most sane Arsenal fan

Arsenal are the 5th biggest team in England. Liverpool are so clear. Don’t necessarily like Liverpool as a club but you HAVE to respect their level. They’re elite

Someone get this Liverpool fan a therapist after this video

Love how the scousers always make the players fees lower. Alisson wasn't 50m if my memory is correct

FAcup's you don't necessarily have to play any really good team to win, you can play multiple lower league teams, teams battling relegation not really concentrate on the cup and often even when you do face 1of the best teams they're often resting some of their best players. Also even if you do beat 1 or 2 very good teams like in the final you can be battered and just be very lucky like Arsenal vs ManUtd 2005. You can also win it with multiple penalty shootout wins which Arsenal have done multiple times. If all of them or in Arsenal's case ANY of them were won in the manner ManUtd won it in years like 1999 then it would be impressive because they beat everyone (including Arsenal twice, RoyKeane wrongly disallowed goal first semi final game). Invincibles, they won 1 trophy. The objective in a season is to win the most trophies, not to go unbeaten in a particular competition. In ManUtd's treble of PL, FAcup & CL they lost just 3 games (all in PL) and won a harder format of CL than today's format which they've also won unbeaten in 07/08, Arsenal have never won CL can't believe he even tried to call Arsenal bigger club than Liverpool lol and I've spent many years mocking Liverpool's failures over the last few decades. There's many PL teams who were better than Arsenal 03/04. ManUtd 93/94 would beat Arsenal 03/04 more times than lose and ManUtd have at least 2 better teams than 93/94. There's also other clubs who had better teams than Arsenal 03/04. Neither of the things Ty brags about are anywhere near as special as he thinks. He's literally bragging about 2 things that teams don't really try hard to achieve.

Grizz represents us liverpool fans so well. What a man👍