Exactly the point. Chasing after Micah and not letting go of the past instead of moving forward like Arthur asked is what lead to the authorities managing to track him down again. He tried to let go but this single act of not doing so led to awful consequences and a repetition of history

Thats different lol

I guess rockstar managed it so that for the storyline it has to make sence why john in rdr1 never talk about him. But john said once he thinks lot of on the old times and arthur. And u can hear some things what arthur said as johns thoughts when u visit old campspots This game is still insane after 1500 hrs almost all in sp

​@@tenjenkJohn was forced to go after his old brother in arms

@@michaelterkildsen7964 oh that’s different

most people didnt play the first one, although i always liked it more

@@deadprank243 for sure, a lot of people seemingly haven’t play the masterpiece that rdr is

@@nalletraktorn I played rdr 1 and 2, and it would be amazing to have rdr 2 with rdr 1 mechanic, like cheating at the poker, fame, patroling at nights, random duels, and exploring mexico with improved graphics.

I feel it’s because Arthur was a conflicted person morally and in other ways he was also a very very funny character and as time went on we watched him change and he dose better himself as he started dieing of TB it’s a very dynamic character and how you play influence a lot of things in very small details in a cutscene or aurther journal(his journal also made him more human) and then you have the tech aspect so yeah

I think it’s because the first one came out in 2004 so a lot of people didn’t play the first one. Many along with me were introduced through this game.

I'm on my 3rd. I can play this game forever and never get tired of it.

And I'm still finding new things each time.

I gave you all i had 😢😊

Nah that's sinful 6 playthroughs... that's like 300 hours with all the side quests... you should really do something more productive with those hours man, I love red dead, but twice or 3 times is max for me

I think I have also played thru 6 times, but I cry on the final ride song. Every time.

"I gave you all I had" Is the single most moving sentence in all of the film and video game industry.

​@@braydenshafford342I swear I was sobbing at that point

I never feel like this .I feel it's my Life

No 🗿

@@RamiXDD?

I never finished the game because I didn't want to play as John. thankfully I can still play online w/o finishing the main story.

Same situation

I literally stopped playing right when arthur gonna die...and start a new game

@@silvermoon9186 just replay the main story there’s so much you always miss on the first play through

@@silvermoon9186 I had to keep playing so I could get revenge ngl

Its like saying a close family member or friend did something cool You say it, and sometimes thats all you wanted to mention. The positive memory

I think it‘s one of many choices they intentionally picked to create that image of John, in which he‘s not really meant to be very confident when it comes to communicating about or with people he has a close relationship with. Besides, in contrast to all the other people Arthur saved, when John talks about Arthur saving him, he’s also talking about his old criminal identity which he likes to leave behind and actually would even be dangerous to talk about too publicly, so yeah… kinda understand this directors choice.

joke cops, you guys don't have to explain everything you see

I mean they had to do that cause in the first game nothing is said about arthur

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Except for when he came back from the Yukon and started acting like an outlaw again, actively disrespecting Arthur's dying wish.

And he also hunted Micah, which ended up killing him and leading to the deaths of the rest of the gang

Wait really?

@@Webpirat2604 yes

He also visits him in the 100% completion ending

@@shadyshadow_inc visits who?

@@phillybubyyy210 John visits Aurther. You can even find his grave but i dont remember where.

after this if you greet Abigail, John asks her why she said that, and he said he likes talking about him, but that there's just not much to say. and if you follow Jack and greet him after it, John will say "you know, I saved us too."

@@dalton5903 thanks for the addition. Never ssen that part before yet.

Arthur said "don't look back when i'm gone" to him. At first he didn't then in the first game he looked back and got his revenge.

It's real life too, people rarely talk about dead people, because life goes on.

More like Abigail doesn't want to talk about the gang, and including Arthur. The tone she said "Aint that right" is a code how a wife tell her husband that she doesnt want to hear about this. She's the kind of person who forget the past by pretending that it didn't really happen.

Arthur didnt exist in the events of rdr1 so john had no idea who arthur was

@@jo_killer3559 i mean he did and didn't. they made it later on and this scene helps connect the lack of background from the first game.

True when I first played rdr I assumed John was in a small group, with Dutch, Javier, and Bill, but when rdr2 came out i was surprised to see more than just four members of a gang

@@n4utlike Star Wars 😆

That is a really shitty way to look at prequels

The man who showed me if I do a robbery and only get a few bucks I can't forget about the quarter

Oh the doubting the doubting

me when my mum is watching me play rdr2 authur dies goes into another room crys

😂

Realist comment.

😔😔

😅😅😅

Always

ofc he does , john thinks in some points of the epiloge about him, but he has to be the strong head of the family now

I do My son

We all do 😪

Yep

Fax 🫡

Man Arthur's the only game character i have ever shed tears for. Man I miss him

Reminds me of the Rick Grimes quote “I had a friend… i don’t talk about him.”

@@Kngsley_ rick and shane :(

​@@Kngsley_ me too.

Come up with your own comment man, damn. I'll never understand why people feel the need to copy what someone else said. I just refuse to believe that someone is THAT desperate for internet points... Fucking sad. Really sad.

He tells all the war veterans who Arthur met (the two in Valentine and Rhodes) that Arthur saved his life and he died

@@leoncruick4612 He does? I haven’t finished the game and I remember those two, what were their reactions?

@@Nevergoingtogiveyouup2030 If you don’t finish all the side missions before the epilogue and you go back to them as John, he’ll tell the person that he knew Arthur. Not really much reaction from them, they’ll just be like “oh okay, anyway can you help me with this”

True point 😅 It is nearly impossible to not talking about such a figure like Arthur Morgan. We miss him so much 😢

Jack mentions in the first game that Arthur took him fishing once and that 2 city men showed up and started asking questions.

​@@bsaaxtyfoon143That's the epilogue lol

​@@bsaaxtyfoon143wasnt that epilouge p2

I remember I was salty and then as the game was coming to a close I started doing all the side missions just to prolong Arthur's life 😭. Arthur is man John strives so hard to be.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZreCetWJ2ZbFeqc.html 😮ITS FINALLY HERE😮

I remembered on the mission where Arthur gets taken away by the O’driscols. My first thought was why kill him?! If they ever do a third game, it’ll be in a long time from now. I hope they do though. Another prequel.

@@TuPapiSuave69 I think the prequel might be Dutch story or better yet Lenny

Yes I remember very well but Not me. I liked Arthur as soon as he was shown.

Underrated comment 👏 👌

LMAO BRO

I don't understand

​@Samarth Shukla Abigail was the gangs whore for a while till her a John fell in love and had jack. Although there are theories that jack might actually be Dutch or Josea's kid.

​@@samarthshukla9869 it's a reference to the first game when John was hunting the Bigfoot, then when you find Bigfoot you accuse him of eating babies. And Bigfoot says we eat berries you fool or something along those lines.

In one of the encounters, the civil war man, Mickey, openly confessed that he never served in the army and that he found that uniform and just wears it to trick people.

Same, but I wanted to comment because of your name, mine's Ryan Antonio.

@@sleepyfilipino Mine is Ryan Anwari lol

When two Ryans collide

@@Ferindel 🤜🤛💥💥

The scene with the nun is so good

Yoooo

Big facts bro😭

Facts!

Damn.

Damn u facts

The first Last Of Us came close

Mw2 made me emotional also

Ahh this game and the witcher 3. That game also made me very emotionally attached

This game and TWD S1 endings are the only time I bawled my eyes out over games

Currently on my 4th play through and seeing new things.. Absolute shame that there does not seem to be anything in new in the pipeline

Are the two games part of the same universe?

@@silentcaldari7594 Maybe but in a different time

@@silentcaldari7594 Well its both from Rockstar so it can also be just an Easter Egg

in gta online you can also have john as one of your character's "parents"

That book is jacks

I wish john wouldve put arthurs hat on the grave stone and laid the journal at the base of it, perfect explanation of why he doesent have them in the 1st game

Johns hat is arthurs hat he puts a feather in it at some point

@@EternalMagikarp bro what? Arthur’s hat and john’s hat or two different hats

​@@burpybut8586Yeah he blind, those are two different hats😂

@@EternalMagikarpyou know John existed before Arthur, and so did his outfit. How would Arthur’s hat become John’s

rdr1 is only 4 years later?

@sinia556 4 years later of the epilogue. Buy a PS3 and play RDR, I find it better than RDR2

@@danielcoelho3477 I watched my big brother play it through on the PS3 a while ago so I don't really remember a whole lot from it,but I'm definitely gonna replay it when I get a PC because I'm not paying 50$ to play it on the ps5

​@@sinia556 ooh buddy, you will be rather upset when you realise rdr1 isn't on pc. 😂😢😭

@@sinia556agent Ross will kill John 4 yrs later in this story

Wait, that happens?

​@@OPbdh116yeah if you go back to any of the spots where camp was, you hear voices from the past

Owch. Never even noticed that bc i never rly play as John. Now i have a reason to, thanks dog

I DIDNT KNOW THIS AND NOW IM GONNA GO CRY.

Wait I did it but that didn't happened

real

So true😢

True

I came out of RDR2 liking John *less*. Arthur gave his life for John and his family to leave the country and the outlaw life behind, and only 8 years later, John's back in America doing outlaw shit again. And, shocker, it ends up getting him and Abigail killed. If he just listened to Arthur and stayed long gone, they'd probably be happy. And Jack would still have parents.

I'am Yes 🗿

shoot*

Thank you for this comment it s not the school ok?

@@Rexbatch500 obviously. You’d have failed if it was

Ok thanks

@@Rexbatch500 it’s either I do it or someone else would

“You’re my brother..”

@@JonathanWare123 i know

@@JonathanWare123 “ be loyal to what matters “

I think about this line alot. Especially when it’s time to be a god damn man 💪

All the innocent people arthur killed: *Ah yes, our hero*

@@Homophobic_racist_sexist character development man

@@flex413 not enough

@@Homophobic_racist_sexist delusional

Yeah say that to all the random people I murdered for looking at me funny, the town of Dennis which I terrorize

Bro play the epilogue it’s just as good

I've had the same issue and I finally played through it for the first time last week, Arthur's death wasn't right imo, but the horses death, was just plain bullshit. Should have had John keep your horse for the epilogue to give you a real connection to Arthur.

​@@uncletido99 if you check the wardrobe you can get Arthur's hat, which I think is a closer connection

​@@slipawyhe also keeps Arthur's journal I do believe and you get a nice cut scene of john visiting Arthur's grave if you 100% the game

@@thyst8004exactly these little kids make me cringe there mad emotional and won’t even continue the game bc of it like without john and his game being so successful there wouldn’t BE no Arthur roger the actor for Arthur even calls john the legend.

It’s that whipper snapper!?

Yes i remember i played the game completely opposite on the second time round (low honor) but on the last arthur mission i still sided with helping john i couldnt bring myself to grab money lol

@@wiisportsbowling3477 yeah but trust me the one where micah stabs arthur in the back with a knife is the worst one

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZreCetWJ2ZbFeqc.html 😮ITS FINALLY HERE😮

Trevor Philips is the best Rockstar character imo 😂

Not even just by rockstar one of the best characters in gaming period

@@natasha675 this is so crazy

@Yo mama so slow, took her 9 months to make a joke childish to debate these two great characters

​@@natasha675no see yourself out. Arthur is the best by far

He told Mary Beth that in the epilogue. Find her at the Valentine train station.

i mean duh 😭

He also hears arthur voices every where when he start a camp

Heh. Nah. I bet Arthur would be on John's kill list in RDR1 if he existed in that game. Just like what he did to Javier.

@@supremedealer6697 absolutely not 💀

He was a criminal

I reccomend cyberpunk then, its also sad as shit

Am I the only one who didnt end up like that? It might have something to do with the fact that I was spoiled to that Arthur was gonna die before even starting to play the game

@@Gravity_304 I was really sad that he died but i would have probably been more sad if i didnt get spoiled the things about rdr2. I knew that micah is the bad guy and that arthur dies before i even started

@@johnnystankiewicz295 same

Nah, wasn't working on rdr2 yet but had it in planning but still decided who was going to be the main character. That's why he never mentions him in rdr1. So stop pulling fake stories that rockstar didn't even knew.

@@hyek2.0 rockstar still had the idea of john having a very close friend that was like a brother to him while rdr1 was in development, while they didnt know who it was they still had the idea of it, just because they didnt know the name of the character doesnt mean theres no way to mention him, they couldve done something like god of war where kratos refers to atreus as “boy” because they hadnt made a name for atreus yet

@@hyek2.0 that's the most unfun, boring and utterly shitty way to view the story. You may as well say that the prequel never existed, and then we're right back at square one with giving RDR1 context. Example: Dutch in rdr1 repeating the same speech he did in rdr2 has so much weight and implications about his regret and guilt over what happened with the gang, the speech was given extra context while still making complete sense for his character. If you're going to remove every instance of rdr2 adding extra context to rdr1 that wasn't accounted for in 2010, it'd be a really really (good game but a) shitty prequel that would add very little to the original game If you went and said "John didn't learn to run and not look back from Arthur, his life wasn't saved by the guy who Dutch betrayed and he didn't learn to love and embrace his family over time", you have literally done NOTHING in the prequel to explain ANY of the characters or their motivations and traits, at that point it's barely even a prequel aside from it sort of connecting to the first game, and the first game stays entirely the same

@@jaxmc3547 Jesus why did you write a whole article?

Apparently that's supposed to be in reference to the girl that Dutch shot on the boat

We understood the first time you said it

@@aodigital9421 sorry, i was really high when i wrote this 😂 i’ll edit it

@@MrBubz-pq3ck lmao all love buddy

John going after Micha was the precise paradox about "not looking back." John tracks Micha down, kills him, Ross finds Micha's dead body and then finds John's homestead, leading to the events of the first game. If John actually listened to Arthur, he would of been just fine.

@@SmokeyGames420 i didn’t think about that. thank you bringing that up.

Ah yes phenomenal writing equals wasting the whole gang for background filler characters.

@@360eradaryl7 cool?

@@360eradaryl7 wrong opinion sorry dude

@@EggsBenedict444 here comes the rdr2 dong riders lmao

@@360eradaryl7 What are you talking about? Every character in that game was incredibly deep and real. Did you even play it?

He didn't. But Arthur didn't sit around and pout. He didn't whine or give up. Arthur knew this was unfair, and despite all the unfairness and cruelty of the world Arthur rose above it all and chose to do something good anyway, with the time he had left. In this, we should all aspire to be like Arthur 🫡 (no I'm not crying as I write this)

I miss aethur he could swim😢

thanks dawg

Thank you.

THANKS BROOO

Thank u so much man

Thx ⭐

And that’s rdr2 ending spoiled for me

​@@lapitsky4109 sorry

@@ayoitsfarasat all good I had it coming

​@@lapitsky4109 Don't worry, the same thing happened to me a long time ago and I still really enjoyed the game

Arthur was evil

He kinda did until he was confronted by ross

@@avocadocommander and that’s why he died.

@@avocadocommander had he listened, he wouldn't have gone killing Micah, which caused Ross found him

@@felipelotas1792 he also went after Micah because Sadie pushed him to.

@@jollyfighter7319 so Sadie has inadvertently led John to his death years later, oof.

unpopular opinion, I know

might be an interesting story. Jack Marston finds arthurs old journal and begins a journey of redemption.

True Arthur was that person showed people in the real world how to be right and live free

@@Dogwater68probably just you

This game teaches you many things about life honestly. If you sit back and think on a lot of it. It’s a masterpiece. I’ve been obsessed over it the last couple days. I somehow am just now getting myself to play the story of the second game. Finished the epilogue last night and since, I have been watching videos on the first games story since I forgot much of it since I last played. And man. It’s so much to take in. I forgot the key roles the gang members played in the first game. Hunting Dutch. Javier. Bill. Seeing uncle die. It makes everything make so much sense. And it really changes how you see John. I always saw him as THE big badass of the gang. But you see in rdr2 he was the “little brother” in a sense. He always had dutch and Arthur and everyone else to protect, teach, and save him when need saving as dutch and Arthur would say haha. And then seeing Arthur’s death, change him into a combination of what he once was, with his new self. It really shows you how he got to where he is. I really wish they’d make a story dlc for Sadie and Charles tho. Even tho we know they likely moved on with there lives and did what they planned in the mission killing Micah. I have so many yet so little words. I play on PC, so for my second play through I have decided to download some quality of life mods to make the game even more of an experience! And last but not least. Lenny.😪 it made me cry. Happened so fast and has no time to say goodbye😢 probably one of my favorite characters in rdr2. Wish he had gotten more time or had been part of the first game😔

​@@timmyneutronofficialI agree, it's way more than just a game

Same. I was suffering great depression and was in desperation to find anything worthy to live for until I got it, it definitely distracted me from my previous bitch of a circumstances.

You may also enjoy playing silent hill 2 if you’re still feeling blue or introspective

I remember finishing the game and sitting down in the shower absolutely distraught. Like “wtf did I just witness did that actually happen??”(I got the low honor ending) It’s kinda embarrassing but I was actually depressed about it for a few days

I finished recently and have felt numb for the past few days.

yess I cried when Arthur died he was a good friend and a uncle and a good husband and a father and he was a good man too.

I crode & crode so much when Arthur died

i had to do the same thing. it felt like i had actually experienced the loss of soemone i knew and loved. crazy i may be but i cant help how i feel lol

First thing I thought of when he mentioned King Arthur and such. John even said he liked the names that they had in those books, and I think it’s because Arthur was the king

@@phormioofathens4774 I remember that Jack Marston later was nicknamed Lancelot. But Lancelot was pure of heart. In RDR1 at the end of rdr1 jack becomes evil and opposite of Lancelot

@@noahtylerpritchett2682 I wouldn't say evil more vengeful and ready to kill Ross and after it he probably just went back to the Beecher's Hope and probably settled down and lived a family life or alone.

John started working with Milton The guy who corrupted the gang sending Mika back to spur Dutch on with the bandit work Just cuz we play as the character, dosent mean they are the "pure" good guy.

@@donovanulrich348 I don’t think anyone was under the illusion that Arthur or John or even Jack would be truly called “a good guy” but they are “the good guy”