bullied as a kid for being a star wars fan. bullied as an adult for not being a disney star wars fan.

Theory reacting to Asmonghold reacting to Nerdrotic reacting to Acolyte. Now we need Asmonghold reacting Theory reacting to Asmonghold reacting to Nerdrotic reacting to Acolyte, Lets' go.

Every time Ki Adi Mundi lies, his head gets longer. The Pinocchio of Star Wars.

I’m a lady and don’t need a lady protagonist to identify with. I can relate with men too. Most of my favorite characters in Star Wars and otherwise are men, and I’m fine with that. If there’s a cool lady that’s well written then great! I love Bo-Katan actually. But they are putting women to shame with all these terribly written female characters.

Sabine being stabbed, not die, then use the Force was what a lot of fans didn’t like about the Ashoka show.

star wars has now become an official spectator sport

Man feels like that Luke Skywalker scene from Mando S2 was so long ago, look how far SW has fallen since then.

To quote Jeff Goldblum, that is one big pile of acolyte.

Strong female characters that are cool: Xena and Gabrielle from Xena Warrior Princess, Samantha Carter from SG-1, Teyla from Atlantis, Princess Leia from original Star Wars, Padme from prequels, Tasha from TNG, Jadzia Dax and Kira Nerys from DS9, Galadriel and Eowyn from LOTR, the chick from Fallout(i forgot her name) and that's just from the top of my head while i'm driving. Then these degenerates say "they don't like strong female characters"... Piss off, make a good story, make a good character and everyone will love it.

When I see male police, firefighters, medics, plumbers and garbageworkers, I get concerned, as I am informed through media how much more amazing and fantastic women are.

I NEVER expected this crossover HAHA

The hardest lesson for people to learn is that this isn't about money. It's about forcing a "Message " until it becomes the culture. These people will run these companies into the ground before they change from "The Message ". This is beyond making money. Disney won't change course. This is Star Wars and everything pop cultural from here on out unless we have a new cultural revolution.

First Charlie, now Asmon 😂 Glad to see these cross overs. They're all entertaining to watch.

What made great women characters was that they were unique and special at one time. Yes, women have physical disadvantages against most men, and in times of war that is a significant disadvantage. Leia was great because she was witty, fierce, brave, charming, etc. Not because she could go toe to toe in battle with Vader. When every single woman is written as essentially a man, it takes away from what makes womanhood so beautiful in the first place.

It’s funny how everybody forgets about Leia. Literally royalty but decides as a kid to help build the rebellion against the galactic empire and helps blow up 2 … 2 death stars. I know I’m missing Carrie and will forever be greatful for the character she help build!

I just want to point out that currently the toy company Lego has not made any Lego sets for the Acolyte. Even Lego had no faith in the show. Now that may change they might make some sets based off the show, but usually when a new Disney Plus Star Wars show comes out like Ahsoka they immediately release sets based off the show. So, it just goes to show that Lego had no faith in it.

My most favourit character in star wars became Jynn Erso. Backstory, motive and what she achieved without the force...amazing.

Stop taking the shills serious Theory. We all see and feel what you do

The Acolyte has done one positive thing, it made me realise that Theory is not a mindless shill, he’s actually a cool guy, so now I’ve subbed. Thanks Disney!

Please make it happen. Asmongold, Theory, Moist, Nerdorodic, Mauler need to find a stage together. The Internet will go nuclear.

This is the crossover that I needed.

The argument that male fans won't like women in Star Wars is absurd. Males love to play games with female characters that are strong and have powers. It's the basis of so many Gacha games, anime stories, and so on. If the stories were well written, and if the writers would drop the sub-text filled with modern political statements, fans would warm up to practically any female character that wasn't an insufferable man-hater.

We’re all in this together!!! United in our disdain for Disney’s perversion of Star Wars. Disdain is sugar-coating it.

First he reacts to Charlie and now Asmond. loving these sidequests. 😂🔥

11:01 as a guy, I don't mind a female protagonist. Rey could've been so much cooler instead of so unrealistic. Of course, realistic in a Star Wars universe is relative, but she was just too much. Heck, I would have loved to see a series on Mara Jade. Leia Organa dealing with the courtship? We have Star Wars Legacy books with strong female protagonists that aren't making their gender or race their identity. Jana Solo falling in love, being part of a hive mind, and then killing her brother because Jacen was too based? They could've have filmed the entire Yuuzhan Vong series and it would've made them billions. Easily able to turn that into a 10 year project. Heck, throw in a filler season with the Joiners. This is what makes me so sad. This makes me wonder why they didn't go ahead with the Legacy books? I've talked with people who didn't like that Chewbacca died in the first book. Instead we get Han Solo killed.

I loved the Sarah Connor chronicles, and that was sometimes female centered and sometimes male. I loved the characters, the actors were great, stories smart, and when it ended I mourned, and i still wish i could hop over to a universe with a few more seasons and grab the blurays.

Wait, so you say there was no retcon in the OG but when I grew up Han was the ONLY one who got a shot off.

Never back down Theory! Thank you for defending SW fandom and George's work.

Disney has forgotten George's statement about SW.... That Star Wars is a film for 12-year old kids. If you don't get that core idea, you don't get Star Wars.

All the true fans are on your side. Keep up the good work!

Acolyte suffers from the same problem TLJ suffered from, all the characters continuously make stupid decisions if only to further the plot. One bad choice, in the heat of the moment, I can understand but it's like everyone on the show as been set to dumb. Any sort of training, or logic, or basic common sense are thrown out the window and dumb is left to rule the day just so the story can advance to the next scene.

It isn't about whether the character is male or female. It just matters how well it's written. Look at Blue Eye Samurai. That show was AWESOME, and it actually handled some social justice topics with actual nuance and tact and wasn't overtly political (see purple haired bitch from Last Jedi...), and had not one, but TWO strong female protagonists in my opinion, but they were executed in completely different ways. One rejected her gender to try to live as a samurai and learn to fight to get revenge on her creator, while the other utilized her femininity and intellect/cunning to claw back any morsel of power and agency she could get her hands on while still operating within the restrictions of an era where women were treated as property to be married off. Yes, them being female was a pretty big part of the story, but the action was on point, the plot was on point, and the characters were WELL WRITTEN and didn't just go around acting as if their previous actions in the story meant absolutely nothing. It didn't feel like a shitty communist propaganda film or something. It felt like the character's motives and actions were justified, and they weren't some fucking chosen one Mary Sue with random shit just happening to them. There was build up and pay-off, foreshadowing, character flaws, etc. and it all MADE SENSE instead of it feeling like the characters were female just to meet some diversity quota.

There were definitely retcons back in the day, but there were always good reasons behind them, there werent retcons for the sake of having retcons.

a Star Wars Theory - Asmongold crossover was not on my bingo card

They did retcon things in the first 6 films. Obi wan wasn't trained by Yoda, it was Qui Gon. Leigh remembers her mother even though she died in childbirth. Han not believing in the Force even though Chewie fought alongside Yoda. The worst being that Greedo shot first. Not cannon breaking but they are there

As a woman I can relate with characters like Padme, Leia, Senator Chuchi, Satine...they're all strong women without lightsabers - just wise, smart and kind. I don't like to see women as soldiers all the time, women have our different approach to the problems of the world.

Where's the petition for a Christopher Nolan SW trilogy ?

Even if they decided to retcon when Ki-Adi-Mundi was born, they still haven't changed how long his species actually lives, so therefore he can't be alive in both time periods.

I am a mathematical physicist and I have also studied philosophy. Arguing that fans who hate on Acolyte do so because they hate women, is a textbook example of a strawman argument. They are purposefully misrepresenting our position on the matter in way that makes it easier for them to dispute and ague against our position. It is an extremely common argumentative fallacy. [Also, yes, 8 years is approximately how long it takes to finish a PhD from high school:)]

This problem isn’t just about Disney. It’s every area, it makes the population easier to control when it fights itself.

Ah yes, been there with Samus as well as a kid. I can totally relate. Also I agree with you about Ahsoka. A ton of guys like that character (myself included). Season 7 was freakin amazing and she had amazing character development throughout the series imo.

You know one thing I’ve noticed is that compared to when people were defending the last Jedi I’ve seen a lot less of the “This is just a show about space wizards that’s meant for kids” it probably still gets thrown around but I’ve seen a lot less of it with acolyte than with the last Jedi. Just a little observation I’m making

You have to remember that Asmondgold is a War Of Warcraft player and he has always called out Blizzard.

The most frustrating aspect is how Asian Kylo Ren is the coolest character and instead we are forced to follow the twins who have absolutely nothing interesting about them

Being told you need to like the new Star Wars because you are a Star Wars fan is like being told you need to like Sticker Star because you are a Paper Mario fan…

Asmongold and Star Wars Theory was never something I thought was going to happen when watching Asmon's WoW achievement videos 10 years ago

This crossover is amazing

I grew up watching the originals once a year on TV, but was too young to really understand them, then the phantom menace came out when I was 10 and i absolutely loved it. I owned it on Home Video, and as kids often did back then i basically watched it on repeat, over and over again for years. I had to deal with older Kids, who grew up with the originals, shitting on the prequals. I saw kids my own age, who originally liked them just like i did, change their opinion because they thought it would somehow make them cool like the older kids. Only a minority of us really stuck to our opinion and we had to defend the prequals to everybody... Jaa Jaa this, Pod Race that, Politics boring. Then episode 2 came out, and people quietened down a bit, then episode 3 came out, and people went crazy. You still had those older kids, now grown up, that still hating on them. Plus some of the hate trenders who had long since convinced themselves they never liked them. BUT you also had many of the people who pretended that they hated them, just to seem cool, were older now and could admit that they liked them and join in on the hype. Of course those individuals acted like they always stuck to their guns, when really they let themselves be led, but who cares, they were nerdy kids just trying to fit in. Starwars fans in general were nerds, before that was trendy or hip, anything but. we were "cool" or "uncool" within our own circles, but to the outside world we were just comicon nerds, before comicon was a thing. Starwars was for us, it was ours, i don't care if you're a boy, girl, black, white, purple, green, a starfish, or a gelatinous blob. It was George Lucas's gift to us, The Starwars Fans, The Star trek Fans, the Stargate fans, the dweebs, the geeks, the nerds, the kids with lisps, and social anxiety, the socially awkward kids. Starwars was our refuge, it was our safe space. AND THE ABSOLUTE HIDE of these people to call us every derogatory name under the sun, call us toxic, for defending the franchise that I'm sure many of us could even go so far as to say literally saved our lives. Its disgusting, these people who have taken over starwars and filled it with their own political dogma, moronic ideology, turning it into nothing more than obnoxious propaganda, regurgitated into one IP after the other. The Terminator, Ghost Busters, Indiana Jones, Marvel Comics, Magic the Gathering, Dungeons and Dragons. You name it and they have infected it and twisted it into this hateful racist DEI nightmare. Nothing is sacred to these people. Anyone defending this kind of trash, should be ashamed of themselves. We nerds had to go through so much BS and too much discrimination, degradation and abuse, for you to just waltze in like you own the place, only to shyt on everything that we loved. And worst of all, we welcomed you fckers in with open arms, why? because we actually cared about other people, didn't want anyone to feel excluded, or alone, because we had been there our entire lives. Sure come in, sit by the fire, i think its cool that you like XYZ thing you're to ashamed to tell others at school, because they will pick on you for it. Want to play Warhammer, I'll even lend you my other army. You wormed your way in like a fucking parasite, and now entire fandoms are left in ruins. Honestly fck all of you, you decrepit, rancid, human beings. I hope you have something you love taken away from you and destroyed right in front of your eyes, then when you complain about it, people tell you to grow up and get over it. Scum

The True Sons of Dorn will never back down or surrender to this evil

We love you Theory ❤

I recently saw a KZfaqr who I casually watched. I think mostly from her saber skills and some reviews of them. She essentially said oh let’s just all get along and not say bad things about Star Wars, followed up by saying she loves everything Star Wars it doesn’t matter what it is. She started getting invites and more recognition, so she is 100% going to fall in line on everything they ever do. It made me stop following her, because if I want Disney corporate opinions, I’ll check their socials.

Most do not know or understand the stigma there was being a star wars fan just 15 to 20 years ago. Carrying around EU books, reading them in class, or wearing SW shirts would cause people to make fun of you and call you names you can no longer say. It was like this for most of nerd culture and caused many of us to feel alienated from our peers, especially in school. Now everyone pretends like they always thought was always cool. My grandpa showed me SW on VHS when i was 9 and it changed my life. Every time I watch or read I think of him. We spoke about lessons and deeper meanings in the films and books which was so important to me. There is no such stigma around SW anymore and everyone pretends nerd culture has always been popular. The stigma now is with those who say wait this doesnt make sense or the writing is bad. SW has always been diverse and representative and no one thought about it that way exclusively, its weird now. Going back to the EU books and films and The Old Republic. A ton on them center around wonderfully written female characters. Heck, even the earliest book on the timeline occuring in 25,000 BBY is about a women. Its bizarre that ALL of this is ignored and instead we're still called names despite how much many of us want to love it desperately. Ive read almost all the high republic books now including scripts and comic books and some of it is great and has all the "modern stuff" also. Even the Cults that are centered around much of the Phase II stuff is much better written than this. When you read them or listen to an interview with the writers it is aparent who loves SW and who doesnt as that often reflects the quality of the books. Im really trying with it and some is great while other parts, not so much. Anyway, I have so much more I wanna say and have been silent about but its hard to talk to anyone about SW in general anymore without being harassed for simple opinions. I love SW so much. I will continue to love SW and try to enjoy what is good about it. I just picked up Darth Maul Black White and Red 3 that came out wednesday and its great. I also picked up the latest High Republic comic about a female Jedi named Ty Yorrick and I like her a lot especially in the book The Rising Storm. So much more to say but I'll leave it there.. Feel free to respond to this with your SW stories or thoughts. Thanks Star Wars Theory for your content been enjoying your theories since The Force Awakens on various channels. Many of you made me realize there were many of you with similar experiences and I thank you all for that. Peace. Love. Keep the discussion civil. And May the Force be with You All.

2:19 “It’s never too late to not be a dick” -Cassie Lang

Did I miss the part Ki adi Mundi was told there was a a red lightsabre sith killing jedi? People keep pivoting to that point but it holds no water. That scene isnt there. The audience knows its a sith but no one else that wasn’t in that jungle.

Retcons ALWAYS matter, regardless of how small. Even a tiny detail changed can be a sign that the writer is either ignorant of previously established elements in a story or is willing to make more changes in the future. It's the "foot in the door," how much are you willing to let that door open?

Theory reacting to Asmongold, the crossover event we’ve been waiting for

Have you seen Snarky Jays letter to Kathleen Kennedy? You should react to that video it’s pretty awesome.

It's not about not liking women, Alien and Aliens were some of the best movies ever made. It's about bad stories

I didn’t mind the first two episodes it’s when we got 2 extra babies born by the force that push me over the edge. If they just didn’t bother with the lore already put in place I’d be fine. A quick fix is the witches seduce and kill Jedi men when they done receiving “Jedi seed” and dispose of all male births. If they hate men go dark with it. And that’s why ocea didn’t wanna become a witch after seeing that transpire. Instead trying to have Kate and Edith too.

At first, I thought Mae was a terribly-written character but the more I consider it; The flip-flopping, contradiction, mood swinging from love to wanting to kill, running away every time trouble comes, denying her responsibility and blaming everyone else, and now the trickery to pretend she's someone she isn't... This may be the most accurate portrayal of a woman ever. 😂

May I add that my dad absolutely loved and rooted for the leopard Padawan in the latest episode my dad was getting into Star Wars again then like all things in Disney Star Wars she died

One of the most beautiful things a story can do is make you relate to someone who doesn’t look like you. Then you know it's touched your soul. Good video, Theory!

If you stop watching, that is when your opinion is heard. Doesn't matter if you don't like it and say its bad, You are still watching it giving them the numbers they want. Stop watching they see their numbers go down, they change and jump thru your hoops to earn your dollar.

Rouge One had a lead female character and I had a great time watching it. So to say that fans like myself don’t like the show because the lead is female is mostly false. There will always be a very small group of haters that just hate because they can. I just want a good fun story with great action and make sense with its lore. I don’t care what or who the mc is. MC could be a dog from Mars of all I care. I just want a good story. Tho making a dog Jedi might be hard to sell…..are there dog Jedi/alien/sith?

Haven't watched the Acolyte yet, so haven't watched any of your videos yet, but I can't wait to binge them all, when me and my dad finally catch up on all the latest star wars material. Finally watching Andor, and that shit slaps!

The toxic positivity/negativity kinda reminded me of the Jedi/Sith conundrum The Sith become so passionate and fearful of what they love, that they loose sight of the consequences of their actions and stop at nothing (toxic negativity) While the Jedi became so focused on the balance and minding their feelings, that they became complacent of wrong doings (toxic positivity) I find that an interesting point of view

Im starting to think Disney and the show runners are creating all this controversy just for viewership. Maybe that's the real storyline. I say that because all the ism's and ists people are labeling those that dont like the show and that it's "woke", literally can from Disney. For example, whether or not Smilo is a Sith. "He said the Jedi would call him a Sith. He didn't say he was a Sith." The show, per Disney, the sho- runners, and actor's, literally told us this guy is a damn Sith! With all these Jedi dying and the Sith being the biggest direct threat to the Jedi, it's only natural that a Sith would be suspect #1. A female lead isn't the problem. The role was written terribly. I dont even know if it's her acting. How else would one bring THIS character to life? So far her strongest force ability is fuckin sleeping.

Man what i would give to see Theory and Asmon chatting it out. I didnt knew till now that i needed that

Theory, keep fighting the good fight brother. I plan on buying a theory saber soon, its pretty high on my list. Definitely going with the Ronin.

The fact that most people favorite characther including myself is Sol rule out racism claims that they want so hard to believe in.

When George retcon things they were simple continuity errors to iron out the story. When Disney retcon things it results in gaping plot holes.

Didn't you see RLM's video? You're not supposed to have an opinion about anything when there's hungry people existing!

I just find it funny they named the Korean Jedi Sol. They named him after the Korean capital.

Seriously been paying attention to whats happening to SW lately. Star Wars is a staple in our society i think, across the world and in many cultures. P.S you take care out here Theory and much respect.

Mara Jade is one of the greatest Charakters...once upon a time

Asmon and Theory together in a video is something I want to see more in the future since he has interesting thoughts on Star Wars and he wants to see Eclipse getting developed as soon as possible...

For Asmon to understand the Ki Adi thing you need to find a WOW analogy of something similar to drive it home to him

When I was a kid it was Kyle Katarn because I was addicted to playing Dark Forces 1 & 2 and Jedi Knight.

I sincerely believe you all should watch Blind Waves discussion and Red Letter Medias discussion as well.

MY BOY ASMON ON SW THEORY???!!! Nice. I like.

If people hated girl characters why didn’t hunger games fail lmao

So, wouldn't Master Yoda notice a tremor in the force when Qimir revealed himself? I wonder if Master Yoda does make an appearance in the Acolyte after all.

Remember those who used to call Theory a "Disney Shill". You can all eat your hat now.

George retconned a lot. for example. Leia telling she remembers her Mother. we know how that turned out an how unlikly it is, that she does. i mean even just in the OT,that vader is Luke Father and leias is his sister are retcons. none of them was planned in episode 4

Vader being the father was absolutely a retcon.

At this point I hear SWT say “ists and phobes” at least 7 times per video. I’m getting EXHAUSTED. He’s so obsessed with

Ahsoka, Padme, that changling bounty hunter, leia, mon mothma. I mean there is a lot of female characters that are great in star wars. But the shows these days are all badly written and they are being forced to have female leads do to societal issues but they are imfact doing female and minorities a disfavor by casting them in badly written stories. And then they think it's racist or patriarchal motivations that fuels the bad reactions the fans have. Clone wars are a great example of male and female characters all around and also alien races show cased. I don't remember which set they have unless I really think back. All the different padawans and jedi's or other characters then clones are all very much mixed. It's all about how that character was written that makes it good or bad.

Can you make: What if Palpatine Executed Order 69 instead of Order 66?

It sucks that there the minority of ists and phobes are discrediting the opinions of 99.9% of people watching the show.

This hits me on a deep level. Star Wars is tied into my family and wouldn't exist today to be ruined by Disney. If it was just written well, I'd accept and enjoy any show and cast. I haven't watched it at all. I'm pushing 50 and never will again. I was told that it wasn't made for me. They did the same with Dr. Who. I was born a white man. Why am I hated by Disney? I had a decades old DVC membership that my entire family dumped. I enjoyed Ashoka, I love that character. Clone Wars, Rebels, A new hope! Strong female leads that made the lore so much richer. Disney needs to stop spewing hate. Write good stories, and we, the fans, will be there. Above all else, I want an apology to us, the Fandom. I want an apology to George. I believe they would rather shutter their doors before giving one. That's how Star Wars will die.

Some good points but I disagree, it's super common. ESG, DEI, Sweet Baby Inc etc. companies have been super woke for years people are just finally noticing.

I won

Theory mentioned Metroid. Automatic 10000000000000000000000000/10 Video.

Pack it up. If they’re not listening to us now. They never will.

13:40 I would love to see this podcast, you guys are some of my favorite youtubers

Now I can’t wait to see Asmongolds reaction to your reaction to his reaction to Gary’s video

"Excuse me, I don't like this meal, could I have something else maybe? I'd also pay." "How dare you, sir?! Fkn like it, will ya?!"

It would be very interesting to see a official round table open dialog between representatives from the SW fanbase (like SWTheory) and people from Disney/Lucasfilm. That would be true inclusion and maybe even a little productiv. Disney made a huge mess out of SW and they are responsible for finding a solution WITH the fans.

Disney space movie franchise is not star wars. Disney doesn't understand what star wars is.

I love these reactions to others reactions. Trying to start my channel back up and trying to figure out the best theme and way to do it. This was an idea I had. So groovy to see you doing it at least I know it was a groovtastic idea. Much love keep rising. May the force be with you all