"I just watch a little bit of it" - 1 hour 26 minutes later...

6:35 the way the little tiny mushroom jumps and falls face flat off the rocks was super cute/cool

This is a Hot take but I think Ashes of Creation might release one day.

Steven has had a cold for years now.

I will 100% play this while i watch youtube on my ps14

"I will just watch a little bit of it." Sees 1 hour and 26 mins video.

I think it's good that they don't cut out the "fails", like when Steven tried to leap up the cliff and failed. We get to see how the game actually runs this way and when they fix it in the future, we'll get to see the improvement as well.

I think they should try to develop a distinct color pallet for the spell effects of each class. Fighter can maybe have red, burgundy, grey, silver. While paladin/cleric could have the gold/yellows. Ranger has greens, mage has blues and purples. It would really help make each class more easily identifiable. I don't like how the fighter currently has some ability effects that are gold/yellow, makes me think they are divine powers, not fighter powers.

Still waiting for the "69,420% playing this" thumbnail in 20 years.

One of my favourite concepts from any MMO was in SWTOR. The sith assassin tank. The light armour tank. So cool. Relying on dodging and shield generators. But in robes. Was really fun

congratz Ashes of Creation, its looking good!

It actually looks like they've got the fluidity of motion right, which *a lot* of MMOs and even SRPGs have struggled with. They talk about it when referencing the movement skills as well, which is a good sign. This is something WoW got right from day one, and even though it's not talked about a lot is one of the biggest selling points of the game. It just feels smooth to play, with little input lag, and your character doesn't feel sluggish like in GTA or Red Dead Redemption (1 especially) for example.

Game is really starting to look darn good.

Ngl AOC looks like a real game

I just love how when a game is taking a while to come out people are quick to complain, and cry that its still in alpha. However when a game comes out fast and rushed that is unpolished and unfinished with major issues and bugs they also cry.

Right after complaining about there being only 1 enemy HP bar, at 1:06:13 it shows Keenan's view and he has all the enemy HP bars on.

20 minutes in to the vid so far. Main feedback I’d like to see is far less “Yellow” spell effect flourishes and potentially change it to white/gray/silver. Yellow/gold (to me) illicit’s a feeling of holy/divine energy to me. I would like to think the grey/silver would help to convey “steel” strikes, which feels far more appropriate for a non-magic martial fighter. Overall it looks great, and the sound effects are really nice too.

kinda funny to me to see all the spergs and zoomers complaining about how much the dude is talking during a showcase of a skill system. attention span is officially extinct.

I have to say they did an amazing job with the world, the river and everything else looks so natural

Here before all the very original “cant wait to play this with my grandchildren” comments

Real greatswords don't weigh 8 pounds, they typically max out around at about 7 lbs with a couple of exceptions and on average are about 5-6 lbs. Sword smith's weren't stupid. They would try to put the balance of the blade as close to the hilt as possible to make them more wieldly. Professional greatsword users were very agile and quick with their weapons. If they weren't, they wouldn't be effective in combat.

"I don't do 1.5x speed it's annoying to listen to I'm not gonna do that." Amen.

Something that would make the visuals pop and appear truly next gen would be if some of the spell effects and the purple campfires etc. would bleed light unto the environment and character models. A fireball should light up the surrounding area. Lightning should cast a blue sheen and so on. The three swirly balls that go around the character should light up the ground and the armor as they go.

So far, warrior is my favourite. Hell yeah brother! The updates to the class are massive and they have done such an amazing job.

My favorite thing in RPGS. Is having a REALLY slow class that takes FOREVER to do anything and when it does its VERY noticable. I LOVE Sorcerer from Dragon's Dogma. and Dragon's Dogma 2 even tho they riggity riggity rekt some of the spells. Why? Because I summon a LEGIT tornado, and I see my dps vs my teammates. I do no dps, I just drop a giant metoer that 1 taps someone after 9 seconds of being afk. Like its REALLLY REALLLY cool to do that. You can have flashy dps classes like rogue and what not sure. But I REALLY enjoy the SUPER large impactful massive power of the spells that take forever to cast. I want something, a perk, gear, etc THat has some inverse cast time bs. That makes it so I can make my spells take longer to cast, but do more damage. I just feel like I want to drop a meteor, not a small pebble that is on fire. Sorcerers taking 15 seconds to summon an aoe tornado AN ACTUAL tornado is the most powerful feeling thing ever. Warriors attacking significantly slower, but with more impact than rogues FEEELS great. The slow sluggish slams that send enemies flying. FEELS great. Rogues being able to juke dodge, and have smaller animation lockouts to better avoid damage, FEELS great. Having dps be the main factor in a pve/vp game always feels terrible. My favorite rpgs usually end up being PVE solo play games because designers have a tendency to like balancing classes around all being homogenous. If my mage literally can't cast a spell in pvp because of a rogues kicking me over and over, I am fine with that, as long as when I do cast a spell, the enemy team gets rekt for it. Hard cc should be tied to classes like mages with long cast times. Everyone knows hard cc stun locks are terrible, but they FEEL much better when you know the class that stunned you, did nothing for 5 seconds before hand.

i like that the attack have weight to them i feel like in new world when you hit things it just left like waving a feather around and the weapons had to weight or feel like your were hitting things.

I wonder if you can smart-cast (no extra click for confirming target) or half-smartcast (target while holding skill key, cast on release) that heroic leap, and whether you can use it while falling/mid-jump.

Agree the attack speed is a little fast. Don’t need it wayy slower though, 2h weapons aren’t that heavy for an Orc!

Ashes is lookin' good. Can't wait to try it.

with the point of mana, I think the only main thing that needs to be done is for warrior and such classes, to have a different bar, similar to mana, called something like qi or fighting spirit or something like that. But overall I think the mechanic of mana itself for these type of classes work, it's just the naming of it does not necessarily fit in these cases

It feels like the animations all have a small animation delay baked into them. Which that will make the transitions from player inputs for combos and canceling smoother and much more reliable.

Really love how this looks for a game that hasn't even had Alpha 2 yet. I hope they ignore some of the people wanting a more rushed development and take their time to get everything right. Very proud to be supporting this project.

Can definitely see the archeage influence in the attack speed. I like it

Could be light on detail for performance reasons, I would imagine they'll amp them up later and give this as a setting when animations are reduced for performance. Much easier to optimize, can't imagine this running well with insane effects so this looks more realistic.

The percent just keeps going higher with every single thumbnail it’s not just me right now

I will definitely play this looks really clean.

Was waiting so dam long for this because I knew he would love it

@Asmondgold TV @57:32, I found the best was always Guild Wars 1. Where they had way lower mana, and half the mana regeneration capability (even though they could secondary spec into any other class in the game, base warrior was far less mana dependant).

I don't know what will happen first. Ashes gets released or Steven dies of his cold.

cant wait to play this fucking game

This looks better than most releases let alone an alpha xD

Feels like that one leap didn't go up the ledge because of elevation difference. On the second try he jumped, and offset the difference just a bit.

Very good improvement month for month thats what we need ... i dont care when i just care that its good

this is way better than a lightning ball sprite moving in a straight line across the ground

I like the idea of the weapon throw doing a lot of damage, but disarming you, and maybe the charge ability still being able to be used while disarmed (less dmg), so you can charge in and grab your weapon and get back to smackin

This game will change his life.

any mmo combat taking notes from lost ark's combat is a good thing

I love how the world looks aswel. Nice art style, good lightning, funny enemies like the mushrooms, cool orc.

Man I can't wait to play the next Alpha, seeing the combat is already getting me pumped up.

this actually reminds me a lot of archeage and makes me so excited to play goddamn

The potential of the ability animations is great, I thought most of them looked very good, the snare one was bad, but I liked their idea, it was a low slash at targets leg. I really liked the shield block and stun animations from the other character. Video was too long, they talked to much but overall, for a game still in Alpha, it looks really good.

Looks like it's coming along nicely. Keeping an eye on it.

I loved greatsword/polearms in Aion classic. Multi hit weapons that were slow but hit like trucks.

For leap strike - I think there needs to be more of an arch in its path. Right now it feels like it’s on a track. You can see the path and it breaks the illusion of there not being actual physics involved. If you make the arch more curved it’ll look more natural. Like WoW

It feels like I am alone in this boat but damn I kinda love chopines on those abilities. It gives off anime/cartoonish style with skipped frames in animation. Especially with current FX and particles.

Skill toolbar art is placeholder? I am almost 100% sure Ive seen the entire bottom bar in other games...

in like modern fantasy mangas the swordsman also use mana for example body and speed buff or coat their sword into mana, other mangas have mana for mages and aura for swordfighters

Based on what they showed with the warrior abilities and skill tree up to minute 30 its exatcly how i built my character in burning crusade exact same effects of the abilities and talents of the skill tree.

Combat starting too look WAAAY less floaty if comapred to last time we saw melee. More viceral and animations seems to have actual weight and impact

Speed is fine on a greatsword that size. They aren't slow in real life. Something like the Ultra Greatswords in souls is a different story entirely but yeah this looks fine. Too used to videogame logic if you think it should be slower.

Make all debuffs selectable to show under health bars. In control options have each debuff image with a selection option on image. Two different options one for main target health bar another for all health bars visible.

i am not super into the fact so many abils with a 2h aren't using 2 hands, hamstring is fine, but big overhead smash cataclysm is not.

''choppy'' ah yes man I really want the feeling of elden ring where I press a button and 10 years later the character does the action I pressed

True

This game might just actually come out right as I hit retirement age, hyped.

"ill watch just a little of it" an hour and a half later.....

Tbh one thing I'm not a huge fan of is how the skill animation/effects look very... magic-like? In my warrior fantasy I like things to be hitting hard and gritty, not flashy lights and effects. Leave those for the damn mages and healers. Would definitely allow combo classes to distinguish themselves as well, as in a warrior-warrior would feel like he's hitting with a melee weapon, whereas a warrior-mage would feel like he's imbued his attacks with magical energies etc

It's wild to me that Wows ui design / combat design still feels like the correct formular at this point

The warhammer MMO had the momentum type of system the longer your in combat your bar fills up and each part of the bar unlocks a special ability but the more u build up and don't use it u can use the best ability

this looks gooood - the movements are being more polished, efects look great, good good xD

Ashes of Creation is an interesting study in how long things take to make and how much patience the average gamer has

"Only gonna watch a little bit" Actually hooked on Ashes xD Too be fair, this was a really good update, combat is getting way better and this isn't even close to it's final form. Ashes of Creation NOT a scam WTF??!!

This actually got me excited to play an MMORPG again. Haven't even felt the desire to in years.

Considering this is alpha footage it's really impressive how detailed and smooth it already looks.

that charge is INSANE wow... thats awesome haha

Omg the game is actually coming together. I really have felt this entire time, like they have the potential to pull this off. I'm glad that it seems like they're following through. Very rare on this scale. I'd be interested to see the cost comparison between this and Star Citizen xD.

They really got inspired from Darius ultimate with that final blow skill. Is awesome

This and BitCraft seems like a good Era heading forward

And now that NCSoft announced Guild Wars 3 .. Ashes of Creation better hurry..

lmao the environment, the orc and the gear look like they came from different games also how the fuck are they taking this long to explain a charge attack like its something no one has ever seen before?

the swings colors should be more berserker like with red auro or smth and maybe actualy wrap your whole sword to add a cool swinging effect but rather than than it looks cool

I'm not worried about every little thing that might ruin this game like a lot of the whiny internet peeps. I'm worried that the main guy talking has sounded sick every single time we've checked out new stuff for this game. There's a lot of people that are constantly sick now for some reason!

Asmon "I'll watch just a little bit". 86 Minute Video "I don't think so."

Bdo animation are great but most don't even see them cause it's such a visual cluster fuck that most sane ppl turn them off or are not playing anymore. I watch my buddies do node wars and they are running that nivida element visual thing that make it look like rune scape so alot of good those animations and graphics do. Rule of thumb for animations and graphics is if you can't have more than 20 people on screen without setting your PC on fire then they are too much for any game wanting to be an MMO.

My problem is making a great sword slow is that it's not viable in pvp anymore it's to slow easily avoided

I also like the slow two handed weapon fantasy for warriors, but not all the time. I reckon the attack speed should be determined by the weight and size of the weapon. A nodachi or generic eropean long sword for example should be pretty much on par with a one handed weapon (maybe have a bigger wind up and faster swing speed though), but massive hulking war hammers and dragonslayer sword type weapons should obviously be very slow and impactful. Perhaps faster/lighter weapons would do slightly more dps (because more hits = more status application chances like bleeding), then the heavy/slow weapons would do more cc knockback/knockdown dizzyness stuff that leaves the enemy vulnerable and open to more damage. The raw power 2h fantasy is great, but so to is the dextrous and precise 2h fantasy.

1:19:00 1:24:00 Thats what I have been saying for over 2 years now. In my opinion, they should use more real life reference when it comes to armor and weapons and switch to more natural lighting like Dragons Dogma 2. They listened when we gave feedback about ice spells (icecicle still need a bit of transparency, so I am hopeful they will listen to feedback when it comes to visuals. Since Ashes was based on Steven's Pathfinder campaign, they should look visuals of DnD and Pathfinder games, especially Baldurs Gate 3. Armor and weapons are the weakest point of their game imo. Not fond of how orc looks either.

Why does every MMO have to have the same set of moves?

It's funny, IRL, great swords are FAST. In fact it is in motion 80+% of the time when actively fighting. Attacks take time to develop though. When you see an opening, you have to weave in the attack with the movement. BTW, movement is your defense.

Can’t believe this is exactly how the game is going to be a launch

i dont understand what people see in this game, the combat looks like every other mmo, it doesnt stand out in any way, and the graphics are at least a decade old.

There's no way this game lives up to the public's expectations. My prediction is it will release to mostly negative reviews, and then the studio will spend years improving the game without much ROI.

A real life sword wielder, I actually approve of this in every way. Can be cleaned up some but very nice. The small lags in the strikes are very realistic if you've ever held and done combat with REAL weapons

I really hope they still have in mind a new set of movement animations. The characters literally float when attack , rotate or do left-right . A good mmorpg has good movement animations. And what a lot of people noticed and asmon as well - FPS for the spells. Now! They said for the next months performance development will take priority - so a lot of FPS issues will be resolved. And yes - obviously is in full production. I just hope they dont let the character movement animations like they are now.

"18 seconds ago" WTF HOW DID I GET HERE

My biggest issue with this game is how ridged and bad the animations look. As a wow player I'm used to it, but wow hides it with the art style. Ashes looks...really bad with it imo. Hope they at least hit ff14 levels...

Looks great for building to Alpha 2 tbh :D

That red flippy move reminds me so much of Ichigo's charged neutral special from Super Smash Flash 2 (which you can still download if you know what an apk file is) [there is also goku]

Ashes of creation. The Star Citizen of MMO's

Way too little progress considering their production time. Understendable tho, as they are still in the INDIE category. I'm not expecting anything groundbreaking from them. If it will be a solid 7/10 MMO with a healthy playerbase (not expecting more than 30-40k concurrent lol), then I'm playing it. Looks decent.