Yes. You do. :)

If you do so do i 😂

Everyone who choose the ”be gentle” options are weaklings 😎 When I want soft Astarion (and I do!) I don’t let him ascend. But when I need him a bit rougher, why not go all the way? 🖤

And this is how bg3 players discovered BDSM 😂

It chanced now. But take a look. I like the new let it hurt Version 😅

Relate

Do you have sources for this?

@darkurgediaries They are full vampires. The only ties they have to their vampire husband or bride are like a magical marriage bond, which can be annulled. By definition, spawns aren't free willed. Therefore, a bride is not a spawn because she is freewilled.

@Ilovedallthepeople Dnd rules and the fact that Asarion tells you how he turned you of you ask him. His explanation is how vampire brides are make not spawns. You can look up the official vampire lore on vampire brides/groom.

@@madih4586 the dnd guide describes them as fledgling vampires which would be something between a spawn and true vampire I believe, either way I agree with you that tav is definitely a vampire bride 🙏🏻

@@madih4586 how does he describes it? I cant remember him mentioning the blood exchange, which is the key element to the bride ritual.

Neil: practically swallowing the microphone Directors: Ahem, could you speak a little closer to the sound piece? We didn’t quite catch that line.

I can't help but just see Neil having to say these lines in a recording booth while being intently stared at, kinda ruins the vibe 😭😭😭😭

I AM NOT GAY I AM NOT GAY I AM NOT GAY

I plan to do a video discussing this soon, thank you for spreading the awareness!

What is a Volorg? I can't find anything about it.

I'm curious where you guys get this info. I can't find anything on the Dark Kiss ritual or what a Volorg is, but I'd love to read about it. Thanks!

Agree, is it in 3d?

@@virginianoone9395 voltor.narod.ru/vr/vr01_11.htm Scroll down to the section about vampire brides, it’s DnD 2e

It makes me weak honestly 🤭

Adding that to my future tattoo plan if you don't mind

Omg I’ll never unhear it haha

LMAO this made my day😂

You’re not wrong

Sounds like someone squishing a dog and the dog is crying for help

Sounds like someone wringing out a wet rag 😭

your not alone😂😂😂

The little rasp with the word "forever" just🤤🤤🤤

This man knew exactly what he was doing there I’m sure

Its so entertaining to watch him play❤😄

@@spintherella he was streaming today. he was playing BG3 with Tom aka Gale. He was chaotic as usual lol.

Haha, that is EXACTLY what I thought - I don't think the voice actor could've delivered those lines more perfectly.

I’m with you! Look up the vampire bride lore from 2e, they clearly had him make tav a vampire bride 🤍

So true ❤😂

Consort is gender neutral so the gays can have their moment.

In a lot cultures "consort" does in fact mean concubine. There have been numerous Empires, such as Imperial China, Byzantine Empire, Ottoman Empire to name a few that the word consort would specifically indicate that the woman was in a concubine relationship. In Islamic Empire's it also pretty much meant that the woman was a slave and NOT married to the ruler, but owned by them and in a sexual relationship. In the modern day most people only hear the word "consort" in relation to the moderm day royal families, which certainly has much nicer implications than the historical usage of the word. I think Astarion's ascended interactions with Tav are so interesting as there is a lot of room for interpretation with the language he uses. Consort is a bit of a loaded word and I would say the historical meaning of it certainly implies more of a master/slave type relationship. So is Astarion calling you his Princess Tav Consort or his Consort slave/plaything? I've been going back in forth in my brain trying to decide is this showing us a happy and consensual BDSM type relationship or is this abusive or heading towards it? I think either point could be reasonably argued and I kind of love that, there is a lot to unpack with Astarion's romance. I finished my ascended play through last night and after defeating the brain, had a follow up romance scene with Astarion. There was an option where you can say "I think we should break up" Astarion laughs at you and says: "Remember, you are mine. The tadpole is gone, which means your future is mine to decide. How lucky are you that I chose you as my consort. Chose you to help me take Baldur's Gate, then sit by my side as I rule it. There's no backing out now - we'll be together forever. ~ I can promise you that ~" Certainly get more of the M/s vibe overall from him, but perhaps that's what Tav wants. People chose to live in those types of power dynamic relationships IRL and have healthy and happy lives. I wish there was a bit more to the end of the romance, I can see it going terribly or wonderfully for Tav and Astarion. Which I sort of love and sort of hate lol.

@@evievarga i take it to be the more royal meaning because lord astarion is constantly reminding tav, this is OUR power, WE will rule, WE are the most powerful people, this world will be YOURS and MINE alone, etc etc. it’s like the royal position of queen consort. It’s very clear the writers used the dnd dark kiss/vampire bride ritual as the transformation he puts tav through, the process strahd did, which is detailed in van richtens guide to vampires. The vampire lord often gaslights the vampire bride into believing she is a spawn so he can have control but she actually has free will and will figure it out eventually. It’s quite telling when you ask astarion if he will compel you and he avoids the question with another question, “why would I need to?” Even in the new patch 5 after party epilogue we never see him compel tav (her eyes would go red like the other spawn we saw being controlled by cazador, if you notice their eyes go back to normal colors when he dies) also in that astarion tells tav they will drink each others blood, and if tav bites astarion in game nothing new happens (obviously could be a failure on the devs part but I see it as she is already a vampire and just doesn’t know it.) So i believe if they ever did a follow up you’d see a much different dynamic between the two of them in the future once tav figures out she’s a vampire bride and not simply a spawn. Especially if tav is a bhaalspawn, things could get very interesting between them 🤔 could either go darkly romantic OR warring vampires haha! The writing is in the wall and I’m dying to see it.

Ahh sorry! I’m just keeping it pg on this platform 🙏🏻

Ign has them all.

@@BebbaDubbs Ign? What’s that?

​@@darkurgediaries Sorry for asking, but how did you keep their clothes on in the scene?

I’m with you 🙌🏻

If you choose the dialogue option and ask how he turned her, he says that he gave you a drop of his blood. It's how vampire brides are made in dnd. Shes not a spawn, shes a full vampire. That drop of blood is also how shes protected from the sun. Shes locked into a vampire marriage with him.

Ah yes. "He's not an abuser he's just being honest" the ENTIRE point of this route is that this version of Astarion is just Cazador.

@@Ssekkaha actually the lead writer confirmed that ascended astarion is still himself in a recent ign interview, and even more recently Neil, Astarions VA, explained that when Astarion ascends his mask is no longer on and what you see is who he really was the whole time. His silliness and theatrics were a mask to hide his pain but when he ascends he doesn’t need it anymore. Ascending restores him to the corrupted bastard he always was in life, doesn’t “make him cazador” because he always was corrupted anyway. His official bio confirms that. If you don’t let him ascend, you push him to become a new person, which is fine if that’s your playstyle. But no, he isn’t cazador.

​@@Ssekkahathis is how they cope with their favorite romance lol. Tav is most definitely a spawn and this is definitely an abusive ass relationship 😂 the guy even makes you kneel for a kiss after the new patch. This is a totally different astarion. Cazador 2.0 is a very accurate title.

I take solace in the fact that the person who said that was only a secondary writer who filled in during crunch time, it wasn’t Rooney who was Astarions actual writer. It was just that secondary writer’s opinion that got taken wildly out of context, and not at all what the devs had in mind.

@@darkurgediaries Oh, i know it was a diffrent writer and you´re absolutely right about her opinion taken out of context. Honestly she did a great job with durge, i adore my character. Durge is just so disturbing and weirdly adorable at times, i love it! Plus extra content with Astarion thanks to her but she still screwed up with this scene. And, at least until it is fixed, i will not forgive her for that. She se*ualized Astarion herself in this scene. Astarions real writer calls it the evil not the bad end. This is a roleplaying game but players get shamed here for their choice to help him ascend when you can do far more worse things in the entire game. I hope Larian does something for this scene with patch 6.

Giving all the Red flag chasers that lust After astarion in like 80% of the content that involves him i can't blame em

Thank you so much!! 🤍

I purchased the game because of Astarion. Join us.

@@mostlyghostey yo really my dad has it on his Xbox for free cuase of his pass he has I just started playing it and I got astarion on my team

If you look at the official dnd guide that covers vampire brides, it states that in most cases, the vampire lord will lie to his bride and make her believe she is a spawn so he can have control, this is why.

He also shares his blood which alone makes it so the player isn't a regular spawn, in the lore at least. The whole thing is kind of confusing with the gameplay/dnd lore differences. Still, regardless of what the ascension haters say about Astarion the fact remains that this scene is basically a marriage proposal, wedding, and wedding night wrapped into one and that is why I have a hard time going the spawn route among other reasons.

@@britt6184 looking objectively Tav is still a spawn even if they are a consort. Per Astarion's words they are a spawn consort and Astarion never says otherwise. More than a spawn sure, but not a vampire. That's fact. And if you play the spawn route Astarion flat out said he almost became cazador. It's really not about hating astarion (I think him and all the other origin characters are great), it is just paying attention to what he says and not putting head canon over what the characters say in game.

Definitely do it at least once, its worth seeing! I think it’s all really subjective, and while I thoroughly enjoyed his Spawn path I actually prefer Ascended, it’s just way more to my personal flavor! Ascended is very get-what-you-give and people on youtube tend to only share his reactions to negative dialogue choices. Yes he is on the dark side, but sometimes the dark side can be delicious 😋 The great thing about fantasy games/literature is that we know it’s not real life, so we can have fun exploring the dark side safely. Some people tend to forget that video game choices don’t reflect on who you are irl 😅

@@darkurgediaries what do you think about him ascended with the new patch?

@@jsoup82 personally not a fan of the new kisses, he is meant to be possessive and lavish tav like his cherished treasure, it's not giving that xD but honestly if they just changed the facial expressions to pleasure rather than fear I could live with it

@@darkurgediaries I agree!

Nah. Help him to ascend is not the "bad" outcome for him👍 He will get what he always wanted: power and freedom👍Not killing Cazador- THIS IS the very bad ending for Astarion 👍

If you're talking about the ending where he stays a spawn then he literally cant turn you. The only option would to become the spawn/slave to a different vampire.

Such, not sure, sorry for the typo lol

I agree! 🤍

Have you tried romancing Ascended Astarion and sacrifice your Tav to become Illithid? Because that 180° changed my view of him...

@@1000fix didn’t change my thoughts, i don’t blame him for not wanting to be with a literally soulless monster that wants to eat his brain.

I think it's the breakup after being bit that got people not liking acceded Astarion. Where he basically says no you can't do that, your MINE forever...blah blah, basically become his 'chosen pet/slave'.

😉 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNd0ps2YxtXPm3k.htmlsi=2QNI5yCZvsROChYO

Tav’s hair salon, vemperen’s heads, and eyes of the beholder! Her fangs I modded myself from scratch and the dress is available in basket full of equipment mod :)

@@darkurgediaries Awesome, thank you so much, I appreciate it.

@@darkurgediaries Can you upload the fang mod or describe how to do the mod from scratch?

@@madih4586 unfortunately i don’t know how to turn my edits into shareable mods, and I don’t know if the creator of this head would allow my edited version to be shared 🥲 you just have to know how to use blender and add tiefling teeth to an elf head, there are a lot of great tutorials here on youtube, that’s how I learned 🙌🏻

@@darkurgediarieswhich dress is it?

“He will always see you as degrading yourself if you continue to be with him, but perhaps you want to be degraded.” Many people interpret this line differently. Me personally, i think he sees you as degrading yourself by being with him because he feels you deserve better than him and you’re lowering yourself to be with him, and the last line means “perhaps you want to lower your standards” this is my interpretation. It’s how they translated it in the german version of the game when I played in german!

I had to go in and reprogram the actual coding for the game, there is unfortunately no easy way!

As long as durge is racking up corpses Bhaal doesn’t care haha

They continue living a life of luxury in the palace together, astarion is able to extend his ascended sun protection to tav as long as she is with him so no burning 🙏🏻

He grabs the player’s throat in an intimate sort of way and bites the neck then proceeds to say thank you like in this video, and then the rest is the same 🤍

Ahh sadly if you missed his romance in act 2 it’s too late :(

I don’t at the moment but he grabs her neck in an intimate kind of way, bites it, then leans back up, thanks her, then goes back in for another bite!

@@darkurgediaries and now I need to see it, damn 😈 Would be cool if you had a chance to upload it as well, maybe as a short. I can't seem to find this version on youtube, _sighs_

@@antagonistlover adding it to the list!

@@antagonistlover I just uploaded it for you! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNd0ps2YxtXPm3k.html

Sadly no, larian didn’t bother to make any changes

Mods! The modular equipment mod, civilian outfits mod, and the basket full of equipment mod mostly!

@@darkurgediariesWhy does the mods not work in my game? Do you maybe have a solution for me. We are trying to use the mods in multiplayer.

Definitely a different strokes for different folks situation! I'm thankful Larian provides us with options to suit our fantasies

@@Synthia17 i think it’s just i want to live insteumental, but I’m not certain! Will comment again if I figure it out

@@darkurgediaries All instrumentals I found is either the one that plays after he kills Cazador as a spawn or the piano one in camp so if you manage to find it, you'd be an actual champion :)

@@Synthia17 I think this is it! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eriglJioypPbeZc.htmlsi=GvIDQjfUjXUnrzez

@@darkurgediaries Oh my Gods it is! Thank you kindly you absolute legend!

@@Synthia17 you’re so very welcome!!

If you say no, he will say ‘yes’, and you can then either kneel or say no again, and if you say no again, he takes it as a breakup and he leaves the room and you are no longer together.

@@darkurgediaries awww. :( come on Azzy, that is such a stupid thing to get mad about.

Basket full of equipment mod, rich dress!

I'll add it to my list to do soon 🙏🏻

It’s in act 3 after he ascends and you are romancing him, you gain the vampire bite ability and when you run in battle you crouch down like astarion does 😆 no visual changes though sadly

@@darkurgediaries Thank you for the reply.

He chokes you in a sexy kind of way aha

​@@darkurgediaries....my friend is...thankfull😂😂❤❤

It’s the rich dress from the modular equipment mod 🤍

Yes

@@darkurgediaries how do i get this scene and what does ascend mean .. im sorry ik im stupidddd

@@angelinajasmin1732 you will know when you get to act 3!

Yep! Long beautiful nails I think it’s called ^^ 🤍

@@vcka anyone can! 🤍

@@angelnathan9172 yes because he can’t make vampires if he is a spawn 🙏🏻

@@Ilkanar it happens in act three and you still play afterwards!

@@darkurgediaries Avesome!

Many many mods! Thank you so much!! 🤍

@@darkurgediaries Well..👉👈 Do you have a list of them somewhere? :P Pretty pretty please 🙏

@@lordvalinar774 I’ll make a list when I get home!

@@darkurgediaries Thank you! Subbing for sure

@@lordvalinar774 ahh thank you so much!! 🤍

You must help Astarion ascend when that quest comes up 🤍

​@@darkurgediaries Ya I figured that I had to do another full rest after having done that. took forever for me to hunt down the answer 😂

He does if your tav is male if i remember correctly!

Fits well with karlach though.

You get the bite ability but that’s it

@@darkurgediaries no visuals change, fangs, pale skin?

@@thechosenone3625 nope they were very lazy about this

@@darkurgediaries aight, well this game would be 10× better if they include a lot of stuff like vampirism for CCs but no you require have a romance with Astarion just for a bite skill, in think the rewards in the game are indeed very bad compared with what you must do for get then in fact is good to see how mods are helping to fulfill the experience and also thanks to Larian for support the mods and modding community, also the only potent reward i saw was the necromancy of thay but you need to be patient lol, have a nice good games

Dr. Frank-N-Furter xD

@@darkakiza8673 nope you can do this in game!

This is the outfit he starts the game wearing! 🤍

@@darkurgediaries Oooh thanks! somehow it's non-existent in my memory, I only have his camp clothes in mind lmao

@@lickmyshoes1859 i think it gets overlooked but it’s actually quite nice!!