Third, the war in heaven was first, then the age of strife, so this would be third

​​@@AlphagonOmegarius Strife is the Horus Heresy, right???

@@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy Nah, Age of Strife is when humanity's AI had a Skynet style revolt plus the increased intensity of Warp Storms from the birth of Slaanesh.

@@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy the Horus heresy was a 7 year long civil war that occurred around 2 centuries after the age of strife, the age of strife itself lasted around 5000 years, and although it's true that it hurt humans the most, the fact is that every single race that wasn't predatory got either destroyed, corrupted or became even bigger d0uches than those preying on them, so not exactly the best time for the Tau to spawn.

@@AlphagonOmegarius oh yeah, forgot AoS lol

Yeah, humans get to retire. Although it very much depends on your regiment, chapter, or really any imperial detachment

@@blacktemplar1139 Sounds like HERESY! EVEN IN DEATH, I STILL SERVE!

@@tae-whankim9821 Sounds like somebody is calling the Raven Guard and the Salamanders heretics

@@blacktemplar1139 Raven Guard get to retire? I mean I didn't think Salamander did either don't get me wrong but I could see it for them.

@@shadowstep1375 Not sure about the Raven Guard, but I know the Salamanders get to retire by being sent to some lake(Filled with Lava ofc) on Nocturne

The slur said was "Filthy Xeno Scum"

Probably the closest thing the Tau language has to "xeno scum" or something.

​@@giacomoromano8842 "Maggot"

​@@uncle-bin1750 I love the smell of a kicked ass in the morning.

​@@uncle-bin1750"If your fighting is sure to result in victory you must fight!"

The... WHAT?!

And then you have Bjorn.

@@Nyghtking Bjorn is an infant. Consider a C'tan shard.

@@Mechagodzilla128 I was referencing how Bjorn may be the oldest dreadnaught, and for that matter the oldest non-chaos space marine.

@@Nyghtking Ah, I thought you were comparing Bjorn to the Necrons. And the C'tan precede the 40k races as a whole in age.

The imperium, turning to look at the Tau after this event, "First time?"

They're doing pretty ok for being the newest faction, with the least ability to project power, and no understanding of just how horrific humanity is.

​@Resi1ience is the league the newest faction. Although timeline wise you are right

@@Resi1ience lore-wise they definitely hold their own simply due to the fact that all the horrors of the world are also killing each other. Tau is based. Tau is life. Tau will hold.

@@SOAVGaming Just be patient and let the other factions implode. I like it.

Sir, we are closing the distance between us and the city But we're entrenched... Correct sir, the city is coming to us

​@@thearcheovistofsolkeeperof6326brilliant

Not really:"titans" only "the emperor class titan"... which is the strongest and buggest titan

Titan princeps: fire the anti air weapons! Crew: The what..? Tigersharks : Twin heavy rail cannons go brrrrr

Didn't they manage to destroy it with a railcannon, though?

Yeah I too would stay the fuck far away from humanity with long range weaponry after meeting enough of them in the 40k universe.

You say dont get in melee range as if they ever would regardless

​@@Keasarractual tau player lore. XD

And whatever you do, if you ever manage to disable them, DO NOT INTERACT WITH THEM. Trust me, it’ll scar you for life. I still remember his guttural rage seething into my soul. *shudders*

Out of context this kinda sounds like a Dalek

For the greater good

for the emperor for the imperium.​@@CatYah00

only in death does duty end

I really liked that book, another scene with a Dreadnought-to-be that was amazing, was when one of the veteran white scars was mortally wounded and the SM captain asked for the Tau to deliver the killing blow to his friend, since the White Scars hated the idea of not being able to ride free, so a Dreadnought was the worse possible fate for them, and he couldn't shoot his friend him self. A rare moment where xenos and space marine co-exist.

​@nikpapado9785 holy shit what book was that, i want resd that holy fuck

I'd like to look this up. Does the event or vampire have a name you remember?

I don't think they're older and this still exists they're just hiding

What?

Was it a C'tan?

Space vampire = C'Tan I'm quite sure​@@CodexOfXol

Mind telling the name of the book?

@@user-ph9ng9fd6n Blades of Damocles lad

I second, please reply to me too so I can see the notification

@@chaomatic5328 Blades of Damocles lad

How do you rate? I've read Cain, Gaunt and Double Eagle so far - I crave recommendations@@CptCKG

They're a reminder of how brutal everything in 40k is, it's a galaxy where mercy is rarely a thing to consider, let alone peace or diplomacy It's a miracle they're still alive despite their beliefs

​@Cappuccino_Bunny don't get it wrong, Tau are not afraid to fight and they are great at this. Its just that they are kinda insignificant in the galaxy and most other threats are way more pressing than the Tau slowly expanding into the Imperium territory

@@Cappuccino_Rabbit Their beliefs aren't that much better than the Imperium. Although the Imperium is kinda fucked up, and Chaos is obviously face-value evil, so there's not much competiton. They're still very much an expansionist empire ruled by an oppressive and rigid caste system. Like India during their golden age, kinda.

In our present day, someone as old as that dreadnought pilot would already be about nearly a thousand years old when Upper and Lower Egypt were united under the first Pharoah.

WE,Humanity Will be like the tau in the future

It wasn’t even an important chapter master, they killed a random Raven Guard chapter master

If they actually fought the emperor their entire race would be demolished😂

And when they thought titans were propaganda

@@WarmasterWirMustard given that those brake physics I’m not surprised they think they should be propaganda they only work because of psychic bull crap

I think they did the same thing with Slaanesh by killing one of her Greater Daemons.

Stellaris players: Another target for My extermination

Don't tell them how old the Necrons are.

@@robincray116 Tau encountering the Necrons: "The fuck is that?" Necrons: "Im too old and tired for this shit." *_BZZZRT_*

Wait 'till they meet Granpa Bjorn

​@@Konz1983 or grandpa Ahzek...

Tau: WTF is wrong with this forsaken galaxy?! Imperium: Welcome to the big leagues, mf!

​@@pyrrhicvictory6707 Necrons : 💀😴😴

They are what the humans where

average stellaris gameplay

"slightly" naive

Sounds like Mass Effect.

That perfectly describes earth in Stargate

Here we have a strange looking monkey and *my god put down the digi-weapon!*

Imagine a crazy Sister of battle as SCP 173; she’s just toying with the Tau entirely waiting for her chance to scream “WEAK TO MELEE!”

У Империума есть пасхалка на 682

too bad it couldn't lift a middle finger.

@@Headloser to be fair, dreadnaughts dont exactly have appendages anymore... but if it was possible, he probably would... with all 4 appendages...

"I will endure a thousand deaths before I yield" - said in monotone only due to vox-caster limitations.

The dreadnaught literally asked for death, dreadnaught was limp as fuck, candyass dreadnaught

@@imperialofficer6185 to be fair, if youve ever read about space marine anatomy when they become dreadnaughts you can understand WHY... no arms, no legs, no hip and about half of the intestines are missing... so theres no real way to move around...

tau moment

it would have probably still lost in meele combat tho

@@aaabbb-zc7sx Ironically Bravestorm as a dreadnought later on is the only crisis suit (besides Farsight) with a melee weapon. The Oneger Gauntlet. A Power Fist.

laughed way too hard at this

That one *unnamed* tau crisissuit pilot who annihilated a spacemarine squad in cqc:

You made me want to read it, what's the book name?

Actually Bravestorm requested it against the Earth Caste's protestations because it was a horrific idea and frankly they literally had no clue how to go about it and just made it up as they went. He has nothing to dull the pain as doing so will also numb his ability to piilot his suit. I think as he lay in an infirmary as a burnt husk filled with nothing but a burning hatred for revange he finally understood how that Astartes could live in such a state. (btw. Bravestorm has been defeated again since he made himself a dreadnaught? How did he survive? The marine that took him down actually thought he was already dead, that's how badly disfigured Bravestorm is.)

@@chaomatic5328 I don't know what book that event takes place in, but he appears in his new dreadnought like form in the Farsight books. They are pretty good, which naturally means that Tau players hate them lol.

@@Makorze He was defeated in the first of the Farsight books. When his battlesuit was opened the Scar Lord Space Marine assumed he was already dead that time, too, and just walked past him.

@@Makorzethat’s not a good example as he literally just played dead never mind that space marines have enhanced hearing so yeah they would know he’s breathing alright enough

Thanks for repeating the short!

And all it has acheived with that time is to be yet another symptom of a hellish existence

I know as much about warhammer as a fruit fly but what you just said here made me cry.

"Only in Death, does Duty end."

Bro is 6000 years old and died to a tau 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Wait till they kill an eldar or a necron.

There are some real life examples that will give you similar pause. For example, Oxford College is older than the Aztec civilization

@@TurinTurambar200Yeah I can relate to a blood xenos. Thanks very much.

The Tau are doing good that ancient veterans of the long war are dying to them. 5 Astartes can purge a planet of Imperial Guard. 5 Astartes don't have a snow ball's chance to do that to the Tau. Entire chapters of Marines have died to the Tau already.

​@@TurinTurambar200 wasnt oxford college founded in 1826 something, and th aztecs were a 14th to 16th century civilisation.

The book where they encounter the DeathGuard is pretty good. There's some good segments describing how horrifying the DeathGuard are, seemingly being the same species as regular humans, but monstrous in ways that go even further beyond. As well as how their experiments in warp travel traumatise the non-psychic Tau survivors of the expedition, into distrusting and becoming genocidal against all other psychic species, after being stuck on a ship witnessing them one by one explode into daemons. (Those Tau got exiled/sent for re-education when the rescue fleet arrives, and finds them killing the other allied species.) Although the human Gue'vesa technically save the day in the end, by still having faith in the Greater Good, even despite getting turned on like this. Would be slight spoiler lore to explain how.

I was thinking along similar lines with Humanity being a Lovecraftian race

Even in death, i can't evade taxes

Would it be an interesting story line to see the "good guy" Tau's corruption just by mere interaction with other races rather than GW trying to find grim aspects of the race?

(chanting) HUMANITY. HUMANITY. HUMANITY

Weeb fish boy*

​@@softwhite6290*bovine

it is better to die for the emperor than live for yourself !

FUCK YEAH!!!

But they’re given all the 1st world weaponry and ethereals and meat shields and flying death lol

​@@swingcity7 I like that analogy and the kroot are like a maniac cannibal that for some reason got said kid's back

@@cryptosporidium01 dang. I’d watch that movie.

​@@swingcity7they never faced real threats. Everyone thinks of them as more of inconvinience than a real threat, and that's the only reason they still exist.

@@bengunn9670 lol ummm it’s not real

And the fact the US was casually spending such expensive resources on something so frivolous showed the US was entirely unaffected by the war the Germans knew it was fighting around the world all at once.

Eso es muy interesante 😃

The power of logistics

​@im_aleey German logistics still relied on horse-drawn transport even at the height of their blitzkrieg campaigns, and being unable to update and anticipate for larger scale fields of battle eventually helped lead their downfall thankfully.

It’s not for nothing called the grim dark future. The time humanity light was the brightest was before the age of strife. We just witness the end.

"realms best left alone" Imma trade that for that cookie 🍪 whaddya say

i mean it isnt humanitys fault they have to be this way and theres plenty of good guys in imperium tbh i think imperium of man can be called the good guys compared to every faction thats against them

@@revolt_4588Nope, everyone’s shit, that’s like the point of 40k

Absolutely not ​@@revolt_4588

IIRC, Bravestorm thought it was just a machine until finding the amniotic fluid and blood.

Wait until they fully learn about Big E.

WAIT until he learn How much older humans can get with They surgerys

Trazyn: Cute.

​@@AMorphicTool Szarekh's pokemon : 😭

​@@samfire3067to be fair that aspect wouldn't be that impressive to him. Or at least it wouldnt be as much of a shock. O'vesa (the earth caste engineer who pilots a riptide) uses nano machines to keep him alive for longer. Granted at the moment only he uses them.

Just like the current model and society. Reality mirrors fiction..

​@@eldenking2098if you think irl humanity as a whole is even *close* to the levels of fucked up the imperium is, I can only think that you are stupid.

​@@eldenking2098 My guy we are no way as bad as humanity in the 40k universe

@@RandomGuy_368 One day when you are older you will understand. May the Emperor protect.

@@RandomGuy_368 yes we are if you think not you are unbelievably sheltered.

out of curiosity, has he been defeated post dreadnaught-ification?

@@crustybomb115 I actually don’t know. I didn’t read much else that has him in it and even then, Farsight tends to take the spotlight What I do know is that he punches Space Marines to death

Yeah human dreadnoughts are proud of it too. That's why they became dreadnoughts, Because they believe in the righteousness of the Empire and wished to deal death to the Empire's enemies long after their biological deaths. No better way than merging with a machine to become one of the universe's deadliest weapons.

@@user-qr6eb4jg9n That’s kinda what makes Bravestorm such an oddball. Tau culture is typically very repulsed by augmentation like this, considered blasphemous even. Of course, because it’s the Farsight Enclave such norms are very often broken.

I know i might get lynched for saying this but if i had to be intered i would pick a crisis suit over a dreadnought chasis any day of the week. Granted thats mainly cause i prefer speed over armor and....well crisis suits can fly. Also onaghr gauntlet.

Of course they know. Bravestorm here waltzed up to the defeated dreadnought and casually scanned it like a QR code, instantly knowing it's age. They've felled titans and anicent Imperial warships, conquered and analysed Hiveworlds. They might not know the exact age and origins of these factions, but the Tau are plenty aware that the galaxy is full of ancient terrors.

It's great. They'd be the villains in nearly any other setting and a major power player, if not the most powerful. In this one, they're nearly the closest thing to Good Guys and just barely hanging on.

@thebighurt2495 more like guilded gold. Instead of having stuff having a perfect empire and having actual good intentions, it's just a thin layer of pristine, beautiful gold that's hiding the ugliness of their empire. They mine-control their own subjects or brainwash those who are not tau like humans and kroot and vespid and many others to believe in their words. And the things they can't fathom or understand are just chalked up as another species that denied the greater good. An empire of beautiful lies with ugly truth underneath.

The Tau analysing imperial tech: "You've been playing every single night and you're still only silver? 🤣"

@@PaxImbrium This silver can use a knife at least XD

"CHAAARGEEEEEEEEE"

​@@rrows5803That's what kroots are for

Imagine them killing you back with weapons younger than your fingernail clippings.

Pretty sure there was something like that involving a certain "kitten".

@@cazador7131 "That isn't cannon!" - Kitten

You heretic!​@@cazador7131

Honest Tau reaction to seeing Custodes: Tau Commander: "Humans are ranked based on size, so hit the big one first." Tau Drone Pilot: "Copy that." __

​@@HellbirdIV Then out he comes, dusting himself off. "That's almost as good as my morning routine. My turn."

He learned from his experience and tried to become a dreadnought

Id argue hes scarier than a dreadnought cause he can fly.

Why did I have to scroll to the bottom to find you! Here have a cookie 🍪

Thank you

Nah, they won't really. Space marine chapters see deaths everyday, and are quite used to it.

@@kerbodynamicx472 No, they would. They see venerable Dreadnoughts as the greatest champions and teachers of a chapter, as well as a link to their history and past. They have great advice and know much and their losses always devastate a chapter like losing another high ranking officer, and routinely across all chapters, Space Marines regularly give their own lives to protect these guys. They would be pissed.

It's like losing your demented angry grandpa ❤

@@bladelover888 Yeah lmao

They already are, I think

how long have they existed? 5000-ish years total? considering us ancient makes sense tbh...

And just like the veteran armoured knights of IRL history, they can still be killed by a single Pulse Rifle round to the head. (Or a volley to the chest) If 40k wars were written realistically, rather than by rule of cool, you'd honestly never want to send Space Marines against the Tau. The Tau are basically built to counter them, and it would be a total waste. Much better suited to try and drown the Tau in guardsmen from every angle.

@@UnknownSquid idk about that. i mean the orks and others can beat them with quality and then some. on top of quantity.

@@TheManofthecross Ork "quality" isn't really a limited relic resource. Gene-seed and Astartes wargear is. My point is more that most of the specific things that makes a Space Marine strong, the Tau standard kit/doctrine is quite effective again. A bog-standard pulse rifle deployed in mass, being a serious threat to a centuries old veteran, is kinda a big deal. The same weapon vs the bigger orks, isn't nearly as effective since orks rely primarily on physical toughness and ability to shrug off injury, rather than armour. Meanwhile against the guard, all this fire power is overkill (at least against the infantry), whilst those lasguns are still plenty capable of killing Firewarriors.

​@@UnknownSquidthe imperium can easily kill the tau, but it's pointless. They're useful fodder and the resource expenditure wouldn't justify the fact that you just busted your tyranid shield in the sector.

Imagine if the Tau actually sees a proper Imperial crusade

@@justinianthegreat1444 oh hell

The Tau are gonna come and steal all your humans with the corrupting allure of three square meals and an air conditioned apartment. : P They're a pretty useful part of the Empire.

THEY WILL LEARN WHAT IT TAKES, IN TIME THEY WILL LEARN

Very true one of my best mates is a weeaboo space communist

"more human" give them time.they are still a young race and they haven't dealt with events like the horus heresy or the age of strife.once their species is on the verge of collapsing like humanity was,they'll realise that survival is more important than "morals"

​@@aaabbb-zc7sx i mean the imperium still has plenty of ppl who try to do good things

in what way

An ambitious and militaristic expansionist empire, with a "join us or else" policy, rigid caste system where roughly 25% of the population are born into the military and serve until death. And they're the closest thing the setting has to the "good guys". : P

Not any other sci-fi setting. Their stance on imperialism and other races is nearly identical to Halo’s covenant; ie “join us or die”, which the Covenant did several times The Tau are identical to the Romulans from ST. Imperial expansionists, militarists, service til death, etc. The Tau are the bad guys from other sci-fi settings. Everyone else in 40k is just that much worse

@@CMTechnica Well not quite. It's not "Join us or die", it's "Join us or we'll make you." And they'll take the route that results in the least violence if possible, since their end goal is of course a well integrated new member of the Empire, so causing excessive destruction is counterproductive for them. They're also plenty open to diplomatic allegiances, if absorbing another empire isn't feasible.

There is a game... a very bad game

There are several books focused on the Tau, written from their perspective. Although it's worth noting that against the Imperium at least, it's nearly always the Tau being the conquerors, not the other way around. Their empire has expanded substantially over the course of their lore, with the Imperium losing dozens of planets to them. ( Most people who don't read the actual lore first hand, and rely 100% on inaccurate memes and youtube shorts for their lore, don't seem to understand this...) There's also a game yes, but don't play that. xD

@@UnknownSquid imma be honest bro, i like the lore i read key books and love every Necron book/where the Necrons play a vital role but i aint got no time for 40 Horus Heresy books or 50 other books hahah. I get it the lore is wide and deep but if you are not fully committed then its just not possible. I like these shorts yeah but i mainly watch the longer lore focused vides as an audio book.

@@morpheus2615 I don't blame you with the Horus Heresy stuff. There's so much of it, and whilst I'm sure many of the stories are good, there's a limit of how much overly poetic Space Marine/Primarch glorification I can care for. ^ ^; Am generally far more interested in either the Xeno focused books, or current timeline events. Also unlike lore vids on the Tau, you can generally trust people to report accurately on the Astartes, Primarchs and historic details. If you want Tau lore though, you really have to go to the source. So much of the stuff on them around KZfaq is just atrociously biased and misleading.

Technically they sort of knew this, even before their first war with Humanity, though used it to their advantage. It's strongly implied in the Farsight books, that the Damocles Crusade was actually a trap, where the Ethereals realised the Imperium vastly overshadowed them, and thus carefully engineered the conflict in advance to ensure the Imperium would be over confident and under-commit. They denied any military action on the Imperial side of the gulf, deliberately acting weak and pacifist, whilst maximising diplomatic/trade disruption, so as to bait the Imperial reaction. Meanwhile Tau forces were gathered on the Tau side of the gulf, which wouldn't be known until the crusade fleet had already crossed. The resulting unexpected loss for the Imperium discouraged further efforts, and gave the Tau time to adapt. Regular troops and even high level commanders weren't informed of what was coming, in order to maintain the deception. Hence all the "shock" and surprise on the front lines when the Imperials did show up.

@@kylemulholland Tau are xeno within a universe with fucked up shit. And expect Terran biology to magically answer the question of a species that evolved vastly different from those created on Terra. They are fish people. Even if their world is dry now. A million years ago, it was VASTLY different. Heck, if it wasn't for the Warp Storm, The Imperium would have killed off the species that became the Tau and humans would have lived on it.

I strongly disagree. 40k is no place for anime characters wearing Gundam suits. They ruin the setting.

​@@christophernuckolls9964 How are tau the problem when orks exist?

@@Dreadnob Your reply makes no sense. Care to try again?

@@christophernuckolls9964 40k Orks are a silly goofball faction, that completely ruin any serious tone the setting is trying to establish. What makes them not ruin the setting in your opinion?

@@Dreadnob False. 40k is a fantasy setting in space. Orks belong in a fantasy setting. There are no anime characters in Gundam suits in fantasy settings. Your theory is now proven as fallacious. Go watch anime.

one thing I've learned about Warhammer is that no matter how deep and primordial the pain and decay inflicted upon you might be, you usually feel all of it and suffer somewhat consciously to make things epic bad.

The emperor is humanity's warp god at this point. He cares because He must. He also doesn't care. He has many faces.