Asuka Kazama | Wasted Plotential

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4 жыл бұрын

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@LightningAlchemist13
@LightningAlchemist13 4 жыл бұрын
As an Asuka main I fully agree. I don't mind her rivalry with Lili as long as it's kept to a minimum like Jin's rivalry with Hwoarang. What bothers me is that Lili was more essential to the story of Tekken 6 than Asuka was in the entire series
@omegacloud99
@omegacloud99 4 жыл бұрын
Being an Asuka main the fact this isn't the canon makes me so salty.
@albireotheredguard1599
@albireotheredguard1599 4 жыл бұрын
Considering all the games she's been in would you like some *Season Salt?* 😁
@Prince-Shogun
@Prince-Shogun 4 жыл бұрын
@@albireotheredguard1599 I see you! 😏
@albireotheredguard1599
@albireotheredguard1599 4 жыл бұрын
@@Prince-Shogun 👉👉
@Prince-Shogun
@Prince-Shogun 4 жыл бұрын
@@albireotheredguard1599 Hahaha! That was quite a good joke!
@blankspotato7848
@blankspotato7848 4 жыл бұрын
I feel ya
@JarvisBaileyVA
@JarvisBaileyVA 4 жыл бұрын
Asuka has MC potential but she gets shut down to just being tomboy waifu bait
@nadhifbhagawantahadiprayit975
@nadhifbhagawantahadiprayit975 3 жыл бұрын
Like shit, she could still be Tomboy Waifu bait and still have MC status.
@flushedgarden
@flushedgarden 3 жыл бұрын
@@nadhifbhagawantahadiprayit975 what does mc mean?
@nadhifbhagawantahadiprayit975
@nadhifbhagawantahadiprayit975 3 жыл бұрын
@@flushedgarden Main Character
@InfeXiouZProductions
@InfeXiouZProductions Жыл бұрын
They don't have to be the main focus (damn Mishimas n Kazamas), but MANY fighters in the roster have MC potential. Wasted potential for compelling storytelling.
@HELLO_KORO
@HELLO_KORO Жыл бұрын
@@InfeXiouZProductions Steve and Nina deserve some focus, i need them reunited
@diamondgirls6541
@diamondgirls6541 4 ай бұрын
Fast-forward 3 years she is still a wasted Kazama.
@TheGraveKnight
@TheGraveKnight 3 ай бұрын
Honestly even though Tekken 8 did give some of the characters a bit more, they're all still pretty wasted due to Kaz and Jin's slapfight taking center stage. Hell even Jun is still wasted despite coming back bc she's essentially just Jin's mission control. Doesn't help that history's just gonna repeat itself with Reina (who I'm confused how she has the Devil Gene since Heihachi didn't have it?)
@roberthayes9314
@roberthayes9314 3 ай бұрын
She has the Devil Gene because Harada-san loves him some Mishimas. :P@@TheGraveKnight
@TheGraveKnight
@TheGraveKnight 3 ай бұрын
@@roberthayes9314 Yeah sadly that's probably the logical conclusion, bc god forbid someone other than the Mishimas has a reason to be here.
@roberthayes9314
@roberthayes9314 3 ай бұрын
@@TheGraveKnight how much do you want to bet that Heihachi will be back in either Tekken 9 or an 8 DLC?
@TheGraveKnight
@TheGraveKnight 3 ай бұрын
@@roberthayes9314 Despite Harada stating he's dead, I imagine he'll be back. Yeah Reina has waifu points to her favor but nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
@chiragbhardwaj4835
@chiragbhardwaj4835 4 жыл бұрын
Paul was wasted the most. He was most badass, was able to fight kazuya till stalemate, was able to defeat ogre and now he is a joke character
@Lrd_Jacobus
@Lrd_Jacobus 4 жыл бұрын
"What the hell happened to this series" The answer is Tekken 7 Main focus is E-sport,
@jimpickens1701
@jimpickens1701 4 жыл бұрын
ESports has killed so much of my involvement with modern fighting games, feels like every single game needs to be centred around how well they work in ESports now, and any that aren't are panned because of try hard wankers who think using technical fighting game lingo makes them a good candidate for an ESports team
@JIX9ISLER1986
@JIX9ISLER1986 4 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@cosmicspider2
@cosmicspider2 4 жыл бұрын
This series was declining way before T7 was even a thing.
@Noz_FGC
@Noz_FGC 4 жыл бұрын
@@cosmicspider2 this is true. T7's popularity has nothing to do with the game's plot steadily going downhill. Anyone who's followed this franchise for a while should know that.
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimpickens1701 It's bullshit really. Like cool, people love playing fighting games at tourneys, I get that. But it sucks that the story narratives are sacrificed in the process which was a shame because back then they were able to cater to both. Tekken 4 as broken as it could be if you knew how to exploit it's fault was a good example of this.
@Skullkid20999
@Skullkid20999 4 жыл бұрын
I was one of the people who suggested Asuka on twitter and sadly she isn't the only one. Steve is wasted potential, Hwoarang is wasted potential, Lei Wulong is wasted potential, Ling Xiaoyu is wasted potential. Literally everyone that isn't named Mishima is wasted potential.
@anibalmattiwos7613
@anibalmattiwos7613 4 жыл бұрын
I would say that even the Mishimas themselfes are wasted potential.
@kyzertv8443
@kyzertv8443 4 жыл бұрын
@@anibalmattiwos7613 Why?
@anibalmattiwos7613
@anibalmattiwos7613 4 жыл бұрын
@@kyzertv8443 retconned heihachi and kazuya. Turned Kazuya evil without any redeeming qualities, Jin went on a genocide to "save the planet". Whole thing is a mess.
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
Boy isn't that the sad truth....
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
@@anibalmattiwos7613 It really is though this kinda went back to Tekken 4. As great as the narrative was, they did make one error which was bring back Kazuya from the dead. He was literally thrown into a volcano, you don't come back from that LOL But I remember reading the subtext for Tekken 4 and it said that the G=Corporation were able to find his remains and through some hocus pocus science, were able to pretty much reanimate his corpse lol. I feel like had Kazuya remained deceased, the story wouldn't have devolved as much because his character really was ruined. He was never meant to be flat out evil with no redeeming qualities. It doesn't help that they completely changed the background of the Devil gene. The Devil Gene was originally granted to Kazuya because he made a deal with the devil to help him survive that fall off the mountain when he was child and one of the consequences was that the devil gene would carry over to his offspring if he died which is why Jin was cursed with it after his father was killed in the volcano. Kazuya was not BORN with it like how Tekken 7 sloppily tried to imply by stating that he got it from his mother Kazumi. And just eugh... Yeah the story is just a mess.
@Keyguin
@Keyguin 4 жыл бұрын
As of Tekken 7, everyone who isn’t a Mishima is wasted. Have you SEEN then t7 endings?
@erykkubiak6669
@erykkubiak6669 4 жыл бұрын
True
@SunGodNika-bi2jr
@SunGodNika-bi2jr 4 жыл бұрын
Tekken is the DBZ Of Video Games
@munem939
@munem939 4 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the recent patch too? Damn, Mishimas are definitely the balancing team's favourite. It's like the balancing team is ran by Mishima users... Oh wait, yes they are! It's ran by Mishimastar!
@resolvedfate1295
@resolvedfate1295 4 жыл бұрын
munem939 Lol ya Jin, Kazuya and the rest are high in the tier lists.
@MALAY_TENGU
@MALAY_TENGU 4 жыл бұрын
-heihachi never die-
@Percival917
@Percival917 4 жыл бұрын
*sigh* Yeah. Lili also has an interesting setup, but for her OWN storyline about proving her worth and independence. Lili and Asuka would be much better off in separate storylines instead of a pointless "rivalry."
@musicmodjoe2139
@musicmodjoe2139 4 жыл бұрын
They're similar to sf's sakura and karin, down to their aesthetics.
@Percival917
@Percival917 4 жыл бұрын
@@musicmodjoe2139 Yes. Except for one singular aspect- chemistry. Karin and Sakura have a more organic chemistry that inspires positive growth for both as people, not just as fighters. Lili and Asuka's rivalry, on the other hand, is just kind of there. Sure, Asuka beat Lili, and thus Lili's father learned about her defiance of him, but why the FUCK should Asuka care? She's after the head of Feng Wei and has family ties to Jin Kazama. Adding a separate rival to that risks creating a clusterfuck of a story that only a protagonist can handle properly, and we all know who the protagonists are: Jin and Lars. Not Asuka.
@musicmodjoe2139
@musicmodjoe2139 4 жыл бұрын
@@Percival917 true, absolutely true. It is just their from brand sake, their rivelry servs nothing other than "hey remember alpha 3? We have our own version! What's that, chemistry? This ain't school, bruh, look at these new movesets and characters mahn!" About lili, yes it could have been a differe t take than just a karin slot filled by avtekken character, just like asuka being a placement for a sakura slot (despite xiayou doing it better in t3, because her personality was not written to be a sakura clone)
@brendongame2543
@brendongame2543 4 жыл бұрын
Theu rivalry could have been a secundary thing. Like, both have them own path to follow, and sometimes they end up fighting each other.
@brendongame2543
@brendongame2543 4 жыл бұрын
@Cyberdemon Mike Hey, calm down. Like i said, it could be a secundary thing. Theres nothing wrong about a good rivalry, as long as its done right, but sadly it isn't the case.
@Solh0und
@Solh0und 2 ай бұрын
You definitely need to make a second part to this. Tekken 8's story mode puts this whole video front and center.
@Tarbtano
@Tarbtano 4 ай бұрын
With how much focus was on Jin in Tekken 8 regarding his family, Asuka had a great opening to have some moments. Instead of bringing Jun back to life, having Asuka have to gain her family powers and assisting Jin to accept the angelic powers in Jun's sted.
@specter_of_thestars2500
@specter_of_thestars2500 4 ай бұрын
Came back to this to say man, Namco hates this chick lmao, T8 did no favors
@asm4991
@asm4991 4 ай бұрын
Just more of the same. If Namco still won’t give Asuka her just-due, they NEVER will. Why even have her be a Kazama?
@teriosshadow17
@teriosshadow17 4 ай бұрын
​@@asm4991Its even worse that they discuss about her family tree and her relation with Jun and Jin is right fucking there and she says nothing to him when Jin explains how Ogre killed his mother.
@stainedclassv0114
@stainedclassv0114 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think Asuka should've been the protagonist of 6 instead of Lars. The guy had nothing going for him, yet 6 had him shoved down our throats. It would've been interesting to see Asuka take the center stage and figure out that she had the same influence on Jin's devil form that Jun had. Hell, Feng could've been more active in the story too, like an increasingly powerful rival. Asuka could've grown as a character, but nah, let's just give her a random, pointless rivalry with not-Karin, and irritating 'fan-service' to boot. I swear, ever since 6, every character that wasn't related to the Mishimas have been sidelined and treated like jobbers.
@aznlee2817
@aznlee2817 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, there was nothing really interesting about him.
@Prince-Shogun
@Prince-Shogun Жыл бұрын
agreed!
@ripamoramee14
@ripamoramee14 3 ай бұрын
And then Asuka got pushed out again for Reina, true story. Tekken has never had a good plot outside of the loose string of a plot that is the Mishimas. But because T7 and T8 had huge finales people will say “OMG TEKKEN’S PLOT IS SO AMAZING!”
@dalekrenegade2596
@dalekrenegade2596 3 ай бұрын
Had the exact same thoughts. Reina looks like Asuka if she was allowed to mature a little, and she is actually involved with the plot somewhat substantially. While Asuka was barely along for the ride. Like what's the point of her anymore especially if Lili is developing her own rivalry with Azucena.
@Random30276
@Random30276 4 жыл бұрын
Never thought you'd talk about best girl
@Leadblast
@Leadblast 4 жыл бұрын
You said best girl, yet I do not see Angel anywhere.
@farkrits
@farkrits 3 жыл бұрын
@Ryder Steel Master Raven is Raven but less badass and way more bland
@TKZhyon
@TKZhyon 3 жыл бұрын
Trash and braindead character
@kujo4388
@kujo4388 2 жыл бұрын
He’s taking about the Williams sister or the changs?
@junkazamafanpl3093
@junkazamafanpl3093 2 жыл бұрын
Jun is better
@mr.checkyourself4672
@mr.checkyourself4672 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder why Asuka and Jin don't acknowledge each other really
@HeyMomonia
@HeyMomonia 4 жыл бұрын
They canonically never met. Yeah it's fucking stupid i know.
@mr.checkyourself4672
@mr.checkyourself4672 4 жыл бұрын
@@HeyMomonia Very stupid
@BiggestChungus21
@BiggestChungus21 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.checkyourself4672 because one has a 14f launcher, a pseudo-Mishima style, a tool for everything else, the best pokes in the game, a God parry, and Star Platinum gloves and a Devil Form which is on paper the best character in the game. While the other is just a functional replacement for Jun.
@ldking5132
@ldking5132 3 жыл бұрын
@@BiggestChungus21 Jin has the best pokes in the game? AHAHAHAH
@BiggestChungus21
@BiggestChungus21 3 жыл бұрын
@@ldking5132 He's like Feng but better, and if you think about it, the best poke in the game is a 1 jab. By that stupid generic logic, everyone has the best poke in the game, more for others due to range but yeah. Plus Jin has amazing pokes. Might not be Kazumi df1 level but amazing pokes nonetheless.
@Prince-Shogun
@Prince-Shogun 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously! Asuka's character is handled poorly!
@musicmodjoe2139
@musicmodjoe2139 4 жыл бұрын
True
@Prince-Shogun
@Prince-Shogun 4 жыл бұрын
@@musicmodjoe2139 it's like she's wasting her time with Lili
@musicmodjoe2139
@musicmodjoe2139 4 жыл бұрын
@@Prince-Shogun The team seems to like turning a complex story into street fighter style rivelries. See asuka and lili and anna and nina.
@Prince-Shogun
@Prince-Shogun 4 жыл бұрын
@@musicmodjoe2139 I really wouldn't mind asuka and Lili's rivalry if it only ended with asuka claiming that she has more important affairs to handle, than to waste time with her, killing the pointless rivalry!
@musicmodjoe2139
@musicmodjoe2139 4 жыл бұрын
@@Prince-Shogun But that's what became of tekken, a game of cat and mouse berween characters while a cadre of plot important characters appear in the front (mishimas the series).
@darkspartan86
@darkspartan86 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair after tekken 2 every character in the series is wasted potential. They made everybody a joke except the mishimas 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️
@musicmodjoe2139
@musicmodjoe2139 4 жыл бұрын
This process is primarily after tekken 4
@darkspartan86
@darkspartan86 4 жыл бұрын
@@musicmodjoe2139 I was about to debate that point, but when I think about yes. Definitely after 4!!!
@musicmodjoe2139
@musicmodjoe2139 4 жыл бұрын
@@darkspartan86 you see tekken 4, the so called black sheep of the tekken fandom was the last time we had any cohesive story. Remember tekken 5? Basicly bringing tag1 characters, retconing their plots and turning characters into a joke (see paul and law for reference). Tekken 6 was basicly a character design catalog, you had interesting designs and characters, but how do they connect with the plot? Oh yeah, you got the german fighter who tries to rip eddy's t3 ending reference to Kazuya as a background story. You have migual, revenge story. You have bob, interesting down to earth guy, alisa, dr. B's daughter turned anime droid, zafina, secret society ie, zasalamel from soul calibur 3 and azazel, a jrpg boss like in tekken. The less said about tekken 7 the better. Migual and bob are the only two characters that felt out of the blue and fittimg the hodge podge feeling of t6, you have your street brawler (spanish bryan) and rufus from sf4 done right.
@pious83
@pious83 4 жыл бұрын
I remember Armour King's serious T2 ending (my main in that game). Gun Jack's ongoing narrative in T2 & T3. Good times. Where is the story of _any_ King and Jack now?
@DeNice1776
@DeNice1776 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with this comment about T2 cast being shafted. My heart goes out to Lei fans especially in this regard.
@meganinten0078
@meganinten0078 4 жыл бұрын
Tekken 4 was the last game with a serious story. The mood of the game feels dark. Example, Paul's story is not a joke
@Superluigi881
@Superluigi881 4 жыл бұрын
Paul's ending in Tekken 4 is the type that sticks with you, or at least it did for me. It's so simple yet so effective.
@ARobin-kn7dc
@ARobin-kn7dc 4 жыл бұрын
Tekken 4. Makes me think of the only badass ending Julia had. Speaking of which, 4th Snake should cover the potential of Julia's character plot in T4 and how it could have left her in a much more deeper role. I still scream at the way Julia's plot potential was shafted.
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 4 жыл бұрын
literally the greatest ending in fighting game history.
@Neogears1312
@Neogears1312 4 жыл бұрын
Cyberdemon Mike cute.
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
@@ARobin-kn7dc The worst offense with Julia is what they did to her in Tekken 7. It's like it's a completely different character...
@Mitsu2040
@Mitsu2040 4 жыл бұрын
So sad that she was downgraded and pushed aside! Kazuya should be coming after her because her power is a threat to his devil power. How can they keep screwing up such a simple concept!
@HeyMomonia
@HeyMomonia 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting what you say about kazuya going after her i remember i think it was in a patchinko or something but kazuya kidnapped asuka and jin was trying to save her.
@John-Stark
@John-Stark 3 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure the only reason he hasn't is because deep down, like REALLY deep down he still cares about Jun
@Reilly-K
@Reilly-K 7 ай бұрын
Having anti-demon powers should be a huge deal. Imagine what Asuka could do if she knew about her power and tried to develop it further. Imagine if she could use that against the _Mishimas._ Game changer.
@ibblue0710
@ibblue0710 4 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of characters in this series that have wasted plotential. Specifically, anyone who isn’t a Mishima.
@absoul112
@absoul112 4 ай бұрын
It’s sad how this video is still relevant.
@welchrebooted4739
@welchrebooted4739 4 жыл бұрын
haven't checked on tekken in awhile but man making asuka jin's cousin and doing nothing with it is like having jerrod inside ermac and doing nothing with it, such a obvious plot point but goes nowhere
@NIDELLANEUM
@NIDELLANEUM 4 жыл бұрын
One thing they could have done to tie her into the main story could have been that she is high school friend with Xiaoyu. As such, even if she doesn't interact with Jin, at least Xiaoyu would be aware that "hey, he has a cousin who may or may not heal him"
@NIDELLANEUM
@NIDELLANEUM 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many ways in which Asuka can be brought into the main storyline. Now that Jin isn't exactly a "good" character, she is the only good Kazama left
@NIDELLANEUM
@NIDELLANEUM 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Lars count as a Mishima, though? I don't think he has any blood relation to Jun Kazama
@Silver-Kaitou
@Silver-Kaitou 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when Hwoarang was Jin's rival, and they have legit respect for one another? Remember that Ling Xiaoyu is Jin's sort of love interest(it's clear she loves him, but his feelings towards her are up in the air) and actually was important to the plot, instead of being brushed aside and made comedic relief? Can we bring these two back into the story? Please?
@zacfaller1404
@zacfaller1404 4 жыл бұрын
Yesssss! Asuka, Jun, Julia, and Xiaoyu are all females I believe deserve a serious place in tekken's story.
@markel9000
@markel9000 4 жыл бұрын
I think one of tekkens problems is not enough characters are progressing and getting together and form relationships, every time someone gets close to having a relation they stagnate. The other thing is that if you not a Mishima your not doing anything, people don’t have to contribute to that plot to have something going ie nina and Steve story
@Jadasan
@Jadasan 4 жыл бұрын
The storyline of Nina and Steve is one of the most interesting storylines outside of the Mishima drama. However, it took them forever to revisit that storyline since Tekken 4 came out in the mid 2000s, but the last game left so much to be desired regarding character stories. It does seem like Nina is the only female character that is given more versatility to move around different plotlines since she's been involved with the Mishima's, her rivalry with Anna, partnership with Jin, and having Steve as her test tube son.
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jadasan But even when they did revisit it in Tekken 7, they did it in such a sloppy and boring way, at least in my opinion. And how interesting would it have been if Steve met his aunt Anna? Another wasted thing lol
@Jadasan
@Jadasan 4 жыл бұрын
@@decadentgamer3108 it wasn't that it was boring, it was just looong overdue and they just basically restated most of what happened in Tekken 4, so most of the revelation was already known by most people that played that game. Plus it didn't help that the stories were really short. I hope they give Steve and Nina better closure in the next game.
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jadasan Yeah I think it's just how short the endings were in general that really bothered me and yeah, gave the characters no proper closure.
@alexisislas-gonzalez5991
@alexisislas-gonzalez5991 7 ай бұрын
The only one that did progress is the one with the Dino boxer and the kangaroo family
@VenomousBAndre
@VenomousBAndre 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly Tekken's Writing Started to Go To Shit around 6. Biggest Problem is That they introduce new Characters but don't do anything meaningful with them Or Just Sideline to Make way with The Mishimas. Feng Should've Have Been Asuka's True Rival Since it would give her more agency along with Exploring her Ties with Jin and Jun but that's just me.
@projectknm8670
@projectknm8670 4 жыл бұрын
Before Watching: I felt a dull pain in my stomach the moment I saw the thumbnail, because IT'S SO TRUE! After Watching: (slow clap) Nicely. Freakin'. Said.
@chiefsalvaje6557
@chiefsalvaje6557 Жыл бұрын
Also Harada said that Jin and Asuka aren’t cousins, he said that their relationship is more 'complicated' than that and that they don’t share any parent nor sibling of the parent. Harada and the developers want to keep it this way because I feel like it’s most likely a hint for Asuka to actually connect with Jin and Jun in the future for Tekken 8.
@ofanichan
@ofanichan 2 ай бұрын
The fact that it's been 4 games and Asuka STILL hasnt canonicly met Feng is so sad. And now Feng is fixating at his rivalry with Leroy of all things. ffs
@ClaudeSpeedGTA3
@ClaudeSpeedGTA3 Күн бұрын
👍
@nugget3327
@nugget3327 4 ай бұрын
Too bad her plot line will never be expanded now because she’s been confirmed to be a distant relative of Jin which I had a hunch they’d pull something like this for how long she hasn’t been written deeply since her debut. It does make sense because Jin and Asuka never had a direct interaction ever, however this does ruin any potential plot line Asuka can play, but she’s not alone with this issue, tons of Tekken characters are having no story line and being wasted as a Jobber, Feng is recent victim to this as he is now reduced to the guy who lost to Leroy Smith.
@manofthepeople2165
@manofthepeople2165 4 ай бұрын
Hi from the future. Asuka is not Jin's cousin. Jin and Jun are from the main branch of the Kazama family. They have no close relatives as the main branch is presumed to have died out after Jun's disappearance. Asuka is a distant relative of Jun and Jin, from the side branch of the Kazama clan and most likely has no connection to Yakushima. As far as why Asuka was included in T5 and onward, it's likely to have a character that purely uses Kazama style karate. For the developers, creating movesets is a lot harder than creating a new character model (which you have to do every new game anyways) so Asuka is basically a repurpose of the existing Kazama moveset. While the Kazama purification power is useful for story purposes, Harada never intended Asuka to be the Kazama to deliver the purification powers to the Mishima bloodline, and we can see what he intended in the story of Tekken 8.
@TiVinese
@TiVinese 4 жыл бұрын
*sees wasted plotential on asuka* me: yes
@MrDarksol
@MrDarksol 4 жыл бұрын
Asuka was a character that when she first debuted and I saw her ending I am like, wait so there was another Kazama and she has the same abilities as Jun!? She seems cool and spunky, I wonder what they are going to do with her? Fast forward to 6 and 7 and Asuka has zero bearing on the stories of each, her ending is non canon despite having very important information regarding her bloodline and we are focusing so much on the Mishima family once again. Oh and she is reduced to have a very pointless rivalry. .......Yeah Tekken 8 needs to bring Jun back and have Asuka get a role in something other then discount Sakura and Karin rivalry because come on even me and a friend were saying that 8 would be fantastic if Jun was brought back and Asuka had a role in that game, which would take the series full circle and actually end this arc. Great job as always Snake!
@worldof2ndfluteclarinet353
@worldof2ndfluteclarinet353 4 жыл бұрын
I think you mean Sakura and Ino rivalry instead
@vruuumvruumm1355
@vruuumvruumm1355 3 жыл бұрын
@@worldof2ndfluteclarinet353 Sakura and Karin that he refers is from Street Fight and not Naruto (Karin from Naruto respect Sakura since she save her life)
@TaylanBaris
@TaylanBaris 8 ай бұрын
If only Harada used his own imagination and creativity instead of taking inspiration from Street Fighter then she would have been a main story material. I actually have no problem with Harada most of the times but like seriously, She was not someone that deserved to be treated like this.
@TaylanBaris
@TaylanBaris 7 ай бұрын
In fact I don't care where you take inspiration from and I don't have any problem with her rivalry with Lili, my problem with this is that the rivalry between her and Lili being shoven down to the throat is what I don't really understand, Like why can't it be minimumized like Jin and Hwoarang instead of shoving it down to the throat. Seriously, Harada should have done better with Asuka.
@GreenSinic
@GreenSinic 4 жыл бұрын
According to Harada, Jin and Asuka aren't exactly cousins or something. But I really don't buy into that because it's just much easier to explain they're cousins because I can't really think of any other way they can be related.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 2 жыл бұрын
Lars is the most pointless addition to the Mishima family ever. "Oh Heihachi had a one night stand with a random woman in Sweden when the Tekken Force were stationed there once and Lars is the result." Even Lee has a better claim to being a Mishima and he was adopted and used by Heihachi to toughen Kazuya up by giving him a rival.
@omolagz
@omolagz 4 жыл бұрын
This video made me realise that damn near the whole tekken roster could get a wasted plotential. I feel like tekken 7, and it's shitty character episode endings, made everyone realise that bandai have nothing in plan for the characters unless they're a Mishima.
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
True though the characters were already in decline since Tekken 5. Tekken 7 just really showcased how bad it really was with those terrible endings.
@elijahangel5412
@elijahangel5412 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously hwoarang was Jins first rival and his near equal in tekken 3 now they don’t do shit with him
@deadypendergrass3435
@deadypendergrass3435 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for part 2!
@tuanhieutran9870
@tuanhieutran9870 4 жыл бұрын
everytime he say Asuka's name, it sounds like "Oscar"...
@Shabkaz
@Shabkaz 4 жыл бұрын
That's what's she's called in the Tekken fgc
@i_will_not_elaborate
@i_will_not_elaborate 4 жыл бұрын
Just last month I was thinking how Asuka was wasted in the series and it made me think of your wasted potential series so I then thought to wait for the Asuka episode. And almost everything that I thought was wrong is in this video! It's almost as if you somehow read my mind and decided to make this video. 😱 But I will answer the question on why Jun didn't bring Jin to her family. My theory is that like Jun, her family is always focused on being virtuous and after Jun & Kazuya's fling and having a baby before marriage, they disowned her. I mentioned the second part because having a child without getting married may not be a big deal in Western society but in Japan, it's still considered very taboo.
@PhillipP93
@PhillipP93 Жыл бұрын
That's actually a plausible reason.
@thomaszloi9444
@thomaszloi9444 4 жыл бұрын
I literally used to write big fanfiction about Asuka's story and journey on joining forces or people that wants to stop Devil gene or Jin or Mishimas like this was such a dissapointment knowing Asuka is trapped in rival arc with Lili
@thomaszloi9444
@thomaszloi9444 4 жыл бұрын
Hell they can both join one team vs Jin with Lili shi literally hates him and he ruined her father's buisness ehat is wring with writters
@mrlakiro5526
@mrlakiro5526 4 жыл бұрын
Remember that time Hwoarang was Jin’s rival?
@guardian7106
@guardian7106 4 жыл бұрын
Random fun fact: asuka’s voice actress also does Mila from DOA (who’s my main in that series)
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 4 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@alexkobs9313
@alexkobs9313 4 жыл бұрын
I may consider Asuka to be one of my favourite characters, but I can’t deny that everything you’ve said here is spot on.
@dranillaasrapti9333
@dranillaasrapti9333 2 жыл бұрын
"Hey! Asuka we cant make any story about you anymore, so your Lesbian for Lili now. It may not go good with your fans but the yuri fans will love it..... Thats all that matter, your welcome' -Tekken Storyboard
@worldof2ndfluteclarinet353
@worldof2ndfluteclarinet353 4 жыл бұрын
You know which character really was wasted potential in Tekken after just only being in one canon game... ANGEL!! The Tekken 8 story needs her now more than ever to come and help stop Kazuya forever, this could be the time to redeem herself after she obviously failed in Tekken 2, and that allowed Kazuya to become the monster that he is today.
@unknowninfinium4353
@unknowninfinium4353 4 жыл бұрын
Asuka the fan service.
@skyslasher2297
@skyslasher2297 4 ай бұрын
0:38 it’s worse in tekken cause you can argue a few things in Batwoman case. Martha not being close with her siblings. Thomas naming Alfred to be Bruce’s guardian and the cains accepted it. Who knows. Like Jun knows how awful Heihachi is so like why did Jun tell Jin to find him.
@YophiSmith
@YophiSmith 3 жыл бұрын
She truly could have evolved as a character to become much like Jun Kazama and truly comfort Jin. Give her the story she deserves continuing from Tekken 5. She ran into Jin Kazama and healed him. Her entire story can be about learning about the Kazama’s (She can't possibly know about them because she was unaware she healed Jin or what the devil gene was) and who Jun Kazama was. This way, she becomes more like Jun, even to the point of frustrating Jin and Kazuya as a FOIL character to Jin's dark and edgy and Kazuya's murderous rage. She can remind Kazuya of Jun so much that he refuses to kill her and even allows her to discuss things with him and train with him. It would be a complete contrast to anything else he displays even with his workers, to let this girl come and go whenever she pleases. This begins to tamper with the devil gene (Thus allowing Angel some more screen time). She would also have access to Jin Kazama but in a way that she annoys him because she is so much like his mother, even to the point of looking like her, but her actions are so not like Jun Kazama. She loves cell phones, shopping, she talks with a weird accent, and is so bubbly! Jin would also be in conflict because there should be no reason why he allows this girl, who clearly knows Kazuya because she would MENTION Kazuya around Jin, but Jin still allows her to be around and not send any Tekken Force members to her dojo (Which she would own by now). As she continues to grow, she could become the main threat to the devil gene in both Kazuya AND Jin because like Jun almost stopped Kazuya from going full devil and then raised Jin, Asuka could be the one who gets in trouble and Kazuya would always rescue her, thus giving him redeeming qualities (Like how Devil took Jun and flew away in TTT). For instance, Heihachi could use her as bait to lure Kazuya out and Kazuya could finally defeat Heihachi and try to kill him but Asuka could stop him and he can literally say the same thing Jin said in Tekken 4 but instead say “Asuka Kazama...thank Asuka Kazama” and fly off the same way. Jin could do the same but not be as personal by sending help if her dojo is attacked. The whole town would know that this dojo is under protection by G Corporation AND Mishima Zaibatsu, thus, getting Feng Wei off her back, and also giving her an excuse not to be strong enough to defeat every person. She can focus on using her influence in more ways than just punching. She could have a plot to help her city as well because of Kazuya’s obvious and Jin's reluctant bias towards her. She would tell Jin stories of Kazuya saved her from Heihachi and said those words and this would anger Jin as it shows that either Kazuya is not all evil...or he still is (as they act the same way)...which would annoy Jin to no end as it would show that Asuka still has hope for Kazuya and maybe he is going about things the wrong way. Kazuya would be closer to her than Jin is...ironically, even though she and Jin are Kazama blood. Her greatest conflict would be Kazuya's and Jin's fights because she knows that one of them will eventually kill the other if they don't stop. She would see the good in both of them and in a climactic battle, she stands between the two of them and they hold their punches inches away from different sides of her head. Then Jin loses control and goes Devil and Kazuya does the same to match his power and Asuka over powers them both with the light that she doesn't even know she has. Kazuya and Jin part because she loses consciousness and needs help. They'll kill each other at the next tournament. (Okay, I wrote a lot more than I thought I would, but hey...it's a better story than Tekken 7 😂)
@AegisKHAOS
@AegisKHAOS 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, the Tekken franchise. Loved the games, but loathed what they did to most of the cast. I remembered being surprised at how little to nothing they did with Asuka in the games given she shares both the Kazama blood AND the fighting style. And then there's the treatment of the OG characters, like Paul Phoenix and the Williams sisters. I can go on, but my thoughts on the overall universe is that it started to decline in Tekken 4, then went full blown anime of the bad kind from Tekken 5 and beyond. Then, sadly, the non-canon entry, TTT2, actually had some of the best endings and character backgrounds for a long time before getting the mess that was Tekken 7.
@RavenAstralis
@RavenAstralis 4 ай бұрын
and this is still relevant in Tekken 8 😞
@CrystalTigerclaw
@CrystalTigerclaw Жыл бұрын
Literally Jin’s cousin and is instead pushed aside for a dumb rivalry with Lily. The Kazama’s are a complete mystery to this day but it’s been hinted from spinoffs like Tag Teams that they have angelic history that counters the Devil Gene the Mishimas have. I seriously hope Tekken 8 expands on the Kazamas since it’ll probably focus on Jin and Kazuya’s rivalry.
@mimi274
@mimi274 4 жыл бұрын
Tekken in general has just so, so many, perhaps countless wasted potentials of all their freaking characters. They've all set up to have pretty intriguing background but they've all never really tied the story properly together. I'm honestly upset to see a majority of their endings are just the same unfunny gags or "insert cool action scene" or "Mishima are evil and I'll do revenge" Unless they're Mishima, they probably play no role in the main story whatsoever.;;; Like I really wish they have some character development in their endings or something???
@BiggestChungus21
@BiggestChungus21 4 жыл бұрын
Firstly, Mishimas are the best thing about the game. I play them almost exclusively, and also I play Jin. Mishimas and Jin are the only characters I care about. My love for Mishimas have even transcended my love for execution. I used to think that execution heavy characters are the only ones to matter. But now with Kazumi and her pseudo-Mishima style, with like zero execution has won me over. But just like most people who take this game way too seriously, we don't give two shits about the story. But even with that said, you're completely right, everyone is just background characters. If you're not spewing electricity in your veins or can transform into a devil, you're not going to get taken seriously.
@ShinMario098
@ShinMario098 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like you could do a Wasted Plotential on 95% of the Tekken roster, basically anyone who's not a Mishima.
@hardyjoe4278
@hardyjoe4278 2 жыл бұрын
When I first saw Asuka, and her moveset, I thought she would be some long lost sister to Jin. Her immediate family other than her father is ever mentioned. Her father would have to be related to Jun Kazama. Since her moveset is so similar to Jun, as well as the original King, as opposed to the orphan who is the current king, Hwoarang being trained by Baek Doo San, and Julia being trained similar moves by Michelle Chang, Asuka would have to been trained by Jun Kazama herself, at some point. Edit: I was surprised that Asuka wasn't even in that Blood Vengeance movie. She was always so dead set on tracking down Feng because he attacked her father's Dojo.
@shadowchild9605
@shadowchild9605 3 жыл бұрын
Can somebody famous show this to Harada? He barely (if not at all) pays attention to anyone who isn't a streamer or an EVO challenger for Esports, give the man to understand what do all of us want.
@OmnicidalClown1992
@OmnicidalClown1992 4 ай бұрын
If you thought Asuka was wasted 3 years ago, play Tekken 8 and see how much potential was missed. Long story short, Asuka finds out that Jin's mother was Jun Kazama... Somehow not knowing this years ago. But to go into a bit more detail, they seriously never addressed if Asuka and Jin are cousins. Like, they could've revealed that Jun is Asuka's aunt (and maybe reveal that's Asuka's Dad is Jun's younger brother, and keep in mind this is strictly my personal head canon,) during this reveal. But no. They instead focus more on the relationship between Jin and Xiaoyu during that scene.
@shadowclaw7210
@shadowclaw7210 4 ай бұрын
I’m not against them developing relationship between Jin and Xiaoyu. The scene where he talks about her dream is super sweet. But one additional line would been good. Imagine Asuka suggest that he lives with them Kazams. Since they are his family after all. It would honestly develop Jin resolve to live and not throw his life away.
@C.R.Cole331
@C.R.Cole331 3 ай бұрын
Asuka and Jin, in Lili’s private jet. Not even once did they share a word when the group was talking about Jun. Like WTF.
@mazkeraid4039
@mazkeraid4039 3 ай бұрын
And Ling had met with Asuka and became fast friends long before meeting with Jin, and you would think that Asuka notices Ling’s infatuation with her cousin and maybe give her tips on how to approach him better.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 2 жыл бұрын
You'd think being Jin's cousin would make Asuka important but she's sidelined in a comedic rivalry with Lili.
@KaguraHibachi
@KaguraHibachi Жыл бұрын
(And it's not even funny........)
@tay850dakid6
@tay850dakid6 Жыл бұрын
Sakura vs. Karin (Tekken version)
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
Once again, a very nice and SENSIBLE idea for a character who was misused in such a gross way. I'm glad that there are people out there who noticed just what happened to her which is a shame because it was already bad enough we lost a fan favorite (Jun) around that time so when Asuka was introduced, gross implications aside (Jun being discarded for a younger model), Asuka at least had a decent debut in Tekken 5 what with her connection to the Kazama family and having the power to suppress the devil gene. But nope, she got relegated to a generic, tomboy anime schoolgirl forever trapped having to have a pointless schoolgirl rivalry with Lili in a shallow copying of Street Fighter's Sakura & Karin. Oh joy /s. I pretty much agree with your rewrite having her be a more central figure of Tekken 6 teaming up with the others who had a reason to stop Jin and how her involvement carried into Tekken 7. Tekken's story was never perfect but it's clear that after Tekken 4, things started going south at the blink of an eye and part of this has to do with Harada's piss-poor storytelling. This all goes back to what happened with Jun. The original story had Jun dying by the hand of Ogre which was the motivation for Jin to defeat him and avenge his mother. But then when Tekken Tag Tournament 1 happened and she returned, it confused fans only for Harada to then come out and saw that Tekken Tag 1's endings were not canon to the main story. We see this carry over to Tekken 4 where stories for the characters pick up after Tekken 3. Though I still remember back during this time, people were still pissed that Jun was not in the game and so for this, it's pretty clear that Harada felt the best way to appease fans was to introduce a new character who had her fighting style and resemblance creating Asuka in the process. This still didn't satiate Jun fans though and he kept quiet about her until Tekken Tag 2. Fan reception to her was overwhelmingly positive as to be expected and THIS is where Harada made a stupid change changing Jun's status from deceased to "missing". This right here is part of what ruined the story but okay fine, she's "missing". If Jun does not make her return in Tekken 8 then this will just prove to me that Harada was either trolling or he's just that incompetent of a writer even worse than we imagined. But back on Asuka, yeah she's definitely one of the worst examples of wasted potential from the Tekken series and I would hope that she'll be put to better use in Tekken 8's story narrative.
@jc-1018
@jc-1018 2 жыл бұрын
Just here to share some good news from Harada not really sure if you heard of this he confirms in his Twitter account that Jun would in fact play a big role in Tekken 8 on the eventual confrontation between Jin and Kazuya. Not really sure how this would affect the narrative of the story but I hope they don't ruin Jun's return after missing out 3 main Canon lore games. If the messed this up I'm seriously gonna loose it on Namco and I also agree with what you said about Asuka as well being a character full of potential and ended up with a never ending limbo towards Lili. Just hope she too gets fixed up in Tekken 8 with the fact her auntie Jun is returning. Despite the heavy damage they already done with this I guess potential character into a clique replacement character for the sake of calming the fanboys who wants best girl Jun back .
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 2 жыл бұрын
If this is true than I'm of the same mindset that I hope they don't mess Jun up because she's one of the only legacy characters who didn't become a husk of what they are lol.
@ProtoSnake
@ProtoSnake 4 жыл бұрын
After Tekken 3 or 4, the series relied on dumb humor than just sticking to it's normal routes (Meaning it should be serious with a bit of humor, like the PS1 Tekken games).
@AngelSnake1
@AngelSnake1 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting, if I remember correctly, during Tekken 5 development, Unknown, who, at the time was supposed to be Jun's sister, not Jun herself, was going to be a playful character, just not possessed by the wolf spirit. Then Asuka was created because of the school girl craze in Japan. Dang. I was a big fan of Asuka and hoped to see her interactions with Jin and the others, and maybe a possible return of Jun, but this series kept on disappointing me. Won't ever forgive what they did with Jun either. First, they told us she was dead, then changed it to her be missing, telling us she was too old now to be include in the games. It took her fans calling Harada out on twitter to put her in TTT2 as well as the other ladies like Kunimitisu and Michelle. I used to be a huge fan of the series, but after Tekken 4, it was clear story and character development meant nothing, so I just left the series.
@HeyMomonia
@HeyMomonia 4 жыл бұрын
I feel you man. I still follow the serie because i'm dumb and love this game too much. It's really unfortunate what happened to tekken it could've been so much more. I really miss the individual endings with a lot care put into it when i see t7 endings it just makes me sad. And i always liked asuka i remember back when i played t5 i always wanted to see more interactions between jin and asuka just to learn it wasn't canon and they still never met. Huge disappointment.
@vruuumvruumm1355
@vruuumvruumm1355 3 жыл бұрын
Even though Asuka is related to Jun and is supposed to have the same angelic powers that Jun had (we only saw in a non-canon ending), the character is wasted simply for sheer comic relief. Even though she has very serious motivations such as avenging her hospitalized father and detaining a genocidal relative, she never achieved her goals, all her endings without exception are gag (three of which are dedicated to one-sidede Lili's rivalry). Asuka is just a teenager with no relevant connection to the other Kazamas (she probably doesn't even know who Jun is). I can't see how she could fit into the main plot of Tekken 8, Asuka has nothing to do with Jin, most likely Jun will return to the game, already has an exorcist with angelic powers at her disposal. So more likely we’ll spend more time watching Asuka lose her time with Lili bullshit.
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I hate the fact that, despite her potential, Asuka is treated like a dumb anime schoolgirl. What makes it even worse is that there is already another character who fills that role perfectly and that's Ling Xiaoy. Asuka is, as pointed in the video, supposed to be legacy character to Jun, not a comic relief character. Speaking of which, i hope that you will also do one episode for Paul Phoenix. It's sad to see one of the strongest characters from first 3 games (dude defeated Ogre, for crying out loud!) being reduced to bumbling buffoon.
@jprodriguez5131
@jprodriguez5131 4 жыл бұрын
@Why are you reading my nickname? I don't understand, Xiao is supposed to be comic relief while asuka is to be the legacy? Xiao has been here since t3(the game that slot of people consider the highest selling game of the franchise) while asuka has only made her debut in t5. Plus, when it comes to crossovers(except SFxT), she is always the female Tekken character that is being used. So I understand how asuka is supposed to be a legacy when Xiao has more of it then asuka.
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 4 жыл бұрын
@@jprodriguez5131 You misunderstood me. By legacy character, i mean that Asuka is a character that continues someone else's story A.K.A legacy. In this case, Asuka is a legacy character to Jun, and should fulfill her role. Xiaoy is around much longer, but like i said in the first comment, her role in the story is mostly comedic and she does an excellent job as a comic relief.
@pinkestgal
@pinkestgal 3 жыл бұрын
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 i get what you are saying but in my opinion, xiao should be more involved in the story just as much as asuka should.
@DeNice1776
@DeNice1776 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, we're FINALLY about to tackle some Tekken bullshit on this channel! I've been waiting for this day, lol. As a fan of both Asuka and Lili, this has been one of my biggest complaints about Tekken since T6. I may love me some yuri/rivalry between these two girls because I'm admittedly a perv, but I hate how it's obvious they just shoehorned this rivalry together (and it may have been the reason they even created Lili in T5DR in the first place), JUST so that Harada could have a Tekken equivalent of Sakura & Karin from Street Fighter. Unfortunately, they just completely sidetracked the very reason why Asuka was introduced into the series in the first place (to be Jun's story and gameplay replacement, abet younger and spunkier) and there is just no excuse for that. It also is a disservice to Lili, since it basically doomed her almost right from the start to only being around in the games as the resident fanservice girl of Tekken without any true story relevance to the overall scheme of things, instead of doing things in regards to 'protecting' her family's conglomerate like she was doing in T5DR and in the backstory/scenario campaign of T6 (...and the less said about her and Eliza, the better....) I don't think Tekken Project seems to understand why Capcom's version works as it does, but the clear difference between the two pairs is that Sakura and Karin actually have (positive, but what's important is at least SOME form of) development in their eventually friendly rivalry from SFA3 to SF5, and it doesn't take away from their individual relevance in the plot or motivations. Lili and Asuka only exist for each other the instant Asuka beat Lili during T5DR's tournament, and that's it. Everything else that may have been of interest to them individually has been put on hold since 2008 just to push their (practically lesbian at this point) rivalry together, and it's gone nowhere of importance, only to straight up anime fanservice. It's been 2 canon games after T5DR, Harada. Get your shit together with the Kazama bloodline already... and bring Jun back while you're at it.
@robchuk4136
@robchuk4136 4 жыл бұрын
Asuka and Lily deserve better. But Jun's ambiguous fate is probably one of the few Tekken narratives I really like, and the one ongoing mystery no other game has pulled off.
@musicmodjoe2139
@musicmodjoe2139 4 жыл бұрын
@@robchuk4136 this is an interesting opinion. Do tell more, I think differently.
@BiggestChungus21
@BiggestChungus21 4 жыл бұрын
First things first, I only care about one Kazama and my Kazama has 14f launchers and a tool for every situation. This is obviously not Asuka. And just accept the fact that Asuka is just a replacement for Jun. So, my proposal is, they somehow keep Asuka cause why not? Put Jun back, but as Unknown but also have a wavedash, a Mishima 1 1 2, an Electric Wind God Fist, f4, and hellsweep. Because the last female Mishima can't be Angel and her shitty frames.
@pious83
@pious83 4 жыл бұрын
Better yet, just don't have Lars. Tekken 6 really screwed up the narrative.
@pious83
@pious83 4 жыл бұрын
@Heavy Metal Collector He and Alisa were both awful trope characters. If anything both of them only spotlight the Wasted Plotential of Lee and Jack, respectively.
@musicmodjoe2139
@musicmodjoe2139 4 жыл бұрын
@@pious83 absolutely about lars and alisa
@BiggestChungus21
@BiggestChungus21 4 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing my guy. They needed a new protagonist, because their flagship boys, the Mishimas and Jin had high execution barriers even with Tekken standards. And main players in the game also somehow had high execution standards like Lee. So they needed a new, easy to use Duo of protagonists. That's why we now have Alisa and Lars. They needed a new Ryu, because their Ryu was "too hard" for some people. God! I love the Mishimas, also I hate Lars and everything he stands for.
@pious83
@pious83 4 жыл бұрын
@@BiggestChungus21 I get that. But, anyone is better than Lars (and Alisa). In fact, a new character as the lead for the next game would be the ideal at this point.
@BiggestChungus21
@BiggestChungus21 4 жыл бұрын
@@pious83 I don't really give 2 shits about the story. But Lars was so poorly implemented. He was pushed down everyone's throat. Mishimas aren't strong because they're the "MAIN" characters, they're strong because they rely on execution and have the single best move in the game. Lars sucks ass.
@teriosshadow17
@teriosshadow17 4 жыл бұрын
Great video again, Snake :) Yes, i agree i think there was always something going on with Asuka and her power that turned Jin back from his devil form. But sadly her character has been relegated useless with pointless rivalry with Lili. Basically almost every Tekken character is a wasted potential at this point. Also Harada's favoritism of Heihachi and trying to make him sympathetic rubs me the wrong way. I don't know what Mr. Harada was trying to accomplish by making Heihachi into "misunderstood good guy". Heihachi has tried to murder every member of his family. He overthrew his father, imprisoned him and left him starve to death and he wasn't even tainted, he killed Michelle's father, unleashed Ogre that attacked Jun who is either dead or missing, planned for world domination, etc. That's not how you make your main villain sympathetic. Its not like Severus Snape who is on evil side but is secretly helping out the good guys. Heihachi has shown no remorse or regret for his actions. Harada, get your head out of your ass.
@eastreddragon
@eastreddragon 4 жыл бұрын
Something to note: Harada retconned that Jin and Asuka were first cousins, they're more just 'of the same kin' now. Which is stupid and asinine, but it does at least explain why Jin went to Heihachi and not Asuka's family.
@y2kween
@y2kween 3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad this popped up on my recommendations bc I’ve been wanting to see videos like this about Tekken characters. There’s such an underwhelming amount of Tekken videos discussing lore/characters, this had excited me greatly!
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 3 жыл бұрын
I'm planning to make one for Steve as well at some point.
@y2kween
@y2kween 3 жыл бұрын
@@The4thSnake Omg yes I love Steve & think he has major wasted potential! I really want him & Leo to meet.
@999roze
@999roze 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you wholeheartedly on Asuka not being used at her potential and your comparison between Asuka and Lili with Sakura and Karin respectively. I was disappointed when Lili was in the picture and her endings after Tekken 5 were more ... comedic rather than relevant to the plot (as most of the Tekken endings outside the Mishima Clan).
@PeeGeeThirteen
@PeeGeeThirteen 5 ай бұрын
Lars should never have been created, Asuka could have had a bigger role in T6
@saint_242
@saint_242 4 ай бұрын
bro I really like Asuka but don’t touch my man Lars
@themightyone4552
@themightyone4552 4 жыл бұрын
Asuka should be part of the Mishima story as she's one herself her not being in the story makes no sense at all to me I hope Jun and Angel returns.
@maximumvibes8318
@maximumvibes8318 4 жыл бұрын
Asuka still part of the family and should have been in their story
@brendongame2543
@brendongame2543 4 жыл бұрын
I Main Asuka, and wow, i would love if all of this were canon.
@MadMamluk88
@MadMamluk88 Жыл бұрын
The fact we lost this potential for someone as bland as Lars is infuriating
@tay850dakid6
@tay850dakid6 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Asuka's Tekken 5 ending was actually canon
@PurgaB
@PurgaB 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing this, really shows just how much even Tekken wasted their character story wise as well.
@UmbrellaSound
@UmbrellaSound 4 жыл бұрын
Nah it's not even Sakura and Karin type of rivalry, it's straight up Sakura and Ibuki type of thing.
@wrestlerboy500
@wrestlerboy500 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been craving Tekken story content on here for YEARS now. I’m so excited that you’re covering Tekken characters now 👏🏿👏🏿
@Nini_Saran
@Nini_Saran 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who's utterly sad that Asuka has such little relevance AND that Xiao also couldve added so much more to Jin's characterline, thank you for mentioning Xiao at least ;_;
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously I went on a huge rant in the comments about 7 leaving Xiao out of the main narrative ok admittedly i'm a bit biased because Xiao's my favorite but even removing my personal feelings from the matter she should objectively be part of the main cast given her close bond and ties with Jin
@Nini_Saran
@Nini_Saran 3 жыл бұрын
@@KeyBladeMaster-Dan Xiao has been my baby since Tekken 3 so I know what you feel like T-T Shes so much wasted plotential as well and I hate that they degraded her to look like shes Jin obsessed because tjey refuse to let them have canon interactions that show that Jin does indeed csre about her. The SFxT Tekken trailer is still one of my absolute favs because it shows he cares about her a lot 😭
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nini_Saran Yeah that SF X TK trailer was great I really hope Tekken 8 fixes this 7's cliff-hanger implied Jin will be the main, MAIN protagonist again so they have literally NO excuse to leave her out next time. She's literally the only person who legitimately cares about him and the onl real friend he ever had they need to explore this more
@ilcapitano648
@ilcapitano648 4 жыл бұрын
Asuka really should be in the spotlight and I love this idea for her. As much as I love Lili, she really did derail Asuka to a serious extent and it sucks. Just out of curiosity, and assuming it’s not gonna be covered in future WP episodes, how would you fit Xiaoyu and Hwoarang into this story? They feel like no brainers to me (and given Xiao’s story with Claudio it seems likely) and I’d love to see them be pushed to the forefront. Especially given Xiao worked surprisingly well as the protagonist of Blood Vengeance and evolved into a much more likeable character, and Hwoarang is one of only two fighters to ever canonically beat Jin and therefore should realistically have a much bigger role imo.
@HeyMomonia
@HeyMomonia 4 жыл бұрын
Lili could've had a rivalry with julia if they really wanted to give her one instead of picking asuka that has already too much to do between beating feng and discovering her ties with the mishimas.
@thomaszloi9444
@thomaszloi9444 4 жыл бұрын
@@HeyMomonia i know the core problem of it: BUtThEygOtOScHoOlaNdTheY'reTeEnAgeRs
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that they REALLY could've worked with Asuka & Lili to not be as pointless as they are. Like Lili could've been the annoying rival to Asuka who would occasionally pester her instead of them just regularly going at it derailing Asuka's plot. As for Xiaoyu and Hwoarang, here's what I think. Blood Vengeance, it should've been Xiaoyu and Hwoarang being the main stars, not Alisa. What they could've done is Xiaoyu wants to look for Jin and Hwoarang does as well but only because he wants to fight him (and possibly does care a bit for him as a friend). On this goose chase trying to look for Jin, Xiaoyuu is the more sensible one while Hwoarang is hot-headed. Kinda like a buddy-cop dynamic. Along the way, they run into Asuak and possibly the other characters like Miguel who have a link towards Jin in some way. That's all I've got for a base lol.
@thomaszloi9444
@thomaszloi9444 4 жыл бұрын
@@decadentgamer3108 I always thought Jin, Asuka, Xiaoyu, Hwoarang and others looked like perfect main characters
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomaszloi9444 Yeah they did which is why it makes it all the more depressing on why they didn't use them to their full potential.
@cui8789
@cui8789 4 жыл бұрын
@6:34 At least with Scorpion he was depicted as sympathetic going back as early as MK2. Heihachi's attempts at nuance just came out of nowhere. Great video. Would also have liked to see Asuka interact with Xiaoyu and Hwoarang. And your Steve Fox suggestion also makes me want to see a video on Anna Williams as well.
@The4thSnake
@The4thSnake 4 жыл бұрын
Steve's is about his relationship with Nina, so Anna is part of it too.
@musicmodjoe2139
@musicmodjoe2139 4 жыл бұрын
@@The4thSnake I do wonder when steve's story become wasted, either in t5 or t6 (t5 was still carrying t4's ending, retconning lei into the mix, t6 was, well t6. The less said about t7 the better)
@HeyMomonia
@HeyMomonia 4 жыл бұрын
I mean we could argue that in kazuya's t2 ending heihachi protected him but yeah it still doesn't make sense and the ending wasn't canon. I just wanted to point that out.
@Superluigi881
@Superluigi881 4 жыл бұрын
Scorpion has been portrayed as sympathetic at least somewhat in most MK games in that fate just has it out for him and his existence is continuous suffering. Even a good handful of his non canon endings don't go well for him.
@whitehatguy
@whitehatguy 4 жыл бұрын
Ya know, Tekken 7 kinda "plotentially wasted" every character that didn't have Mishima as a last name
@fatnin13
@fatnin13 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they plotentially wasted even that category of characters.
@angryboi595
@angryboi595 Жыл бұрын
I just really hope Tekken 8 will give attention and good character development to characters who aren’t apart of the Mishima family
@Creepy___
@Creepy___ 4 жыл бұрын
Asuka mains rise up, this is for us
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan
@KeyBladeMaster-Dan 4 жыл бұрын
YES 4TH SNAKE IS COVERING TEKKEN!!! ^__^ This was great and worth the wait hopefully a Xiaoyu episode is planned because good lord Tekken 7 did my girl dirty she's one of the most popular, long lasting iconic characters of the franchise like if Nina is the queen of Tekken she's easily the princess, she's one of Jin's only real friends (and an implied pseudo love interest) has ties to Heihachi as well, she was the star of an entire movie exploring her involvement in the families conflict for crying out loud she deserves to be a part of the main story definitely more than Lars does (as much as I may like him) seriously #JusticeForXiaoyu
@pinkestgal
@pinkestgal 3 жыл бұрын
this comment >>>>>
@ubergamer2010
@ubergamer2010 4 жыл бұрын
They could've just brought back Jun Kazama in T7 instead of Asuka and nobody would've batted an eye at Asuka's absence. If anything, people probably would've been happier
@Youthfullegend
@Youthfullegend 4 жыл бұрын
Lili completely destroyed Asuka's character. She basically went from being a totally unique developed, and sensible character, to a plaything to the worst character ever to come into Tekken. This might be my biased hatred towards Lili, but she adds nothing interesting to the story. She basically started as trying to defend her father's business from bankruptcy from the Mishima Zibatsu, only to turn to a senseless rivalry to what could have been a key character to the Kazama story line. Makes me think Tekken's story would've thrived without Lili. Again, maybe my bias, but Lili is an utter disappointment to the series.
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. As much as I like Lili's design and fighting style, she really fucked over Asuka majorly. It doesn't help that Lili's whole existence was mainly only good for a one off character.She wanted to stop her father's business from going into bankruptcy and thought that winning the prize money would help. That's it. Like what else can be done with her? She really didn't have no substantial staying power and it seems the only reason she is still here aside from derailing Asuka's character is because uber fanboys think she is hot.
@giulia1361
@giulia1361 4 жыл бұрын
Its on the game though. The plan to make a rivalry for Asuka came first which proceeded by Lili. They both got screwed. Lili basically a filler character while Asuka got ditched. Imagine being there just to be THAT supposed rival for that specific character. Tekken screwed everything plotline wise.
@Lukmendes
@Lukmendes 4 жыл бұрын
Lili didn't do much to hurt her character, because Asuka herself was never taken seriously even in Tekken 5 itself. First of all, her cutscene with Feng is just her clumsily not noticing at first she's talking with Feng, then her ending, while it shows her supressing the devil gene, also has that dumbass gag. So really, Lili is just being used to continue making Asuka into a joke, and if there was no Lili, chances are she'd still be a joke (If you use Tekken 6's high amount of joke endings as evidence), only a different kind.
@decadentgamer3108
@decadentgamer3108 4 жыл бұрын
@@Lukmendes Possibly but it's clear that Asuka has more of a main center compared to Lili. Like seriously, what tangible thing does Lili bring that isn't completely superficial (ignoring her looks and flashy fighting style)? Asuka may have been derailed but she does have something they can fall back on which in this case is her power to suppress the Devil Gene. But what can you say Lili brings? Something that could've worked if say they dropped Asuka but kept Lili?
@Lukmendes
@Lukmendes 4 жыл бұрын
@@decadentgamer3108 She has *potential* to be "main center", potential that isn't being used, and potential being wasted is 99% of the cast, not just her, and even if she has "more potential" than everyone else, it's ultimately irrelevant until it's used, because any character can suddenly become important. If anything, you can even say that there's no point to Asuka anymore since Claudio exists, he actually knows that devil gene exists, and actually hunts demons and other shit, but Claudio was pointless in Tekken 7 too (He was hilariously advertised as being important to the story, but in the game itself he just drops some obvious advice and leaves, pretty much making no difference), so no, Asuka isn't bringing anything more than Lili, she only seemingly has more potential with what Tekken 5 showed, and again, Tekken 5 itself made her more of a joke than anything, so she's actually just as pointless as Lili, even if her fans don't want to admit it.
@DEUCE2CON
@DEUCE2CON 11 ай бұрын
You should work for Bandai Namco because your story idea for what Asuka should’ve done in Tekken 6 was a good one! Asuka should’ve been the main protagonist in Tekken 6 and Lars should’ve been the secondary protagonist. It would be cool to switch between two characters and see their own storyline in Scenario Campaign. I hope Bandai Namco fixes Asuka's character that way she can be an important character in Tekken 8. Especially since Jun is in Tekken 8.
@willowsapphire1145
@willowsapphire1145 4 жыл бұрын
4thSnake, you and I share a VERY similar mindset regarding Asuka. And that makes me very happy because I don't see too many Asuka videos where she's not treated like she's in Jun and other's shadow. She could have been quite the heroic character, but nope! Gotta make it edgy. Thank you, for posting this. I am beyond happy someone else shares similar beliefs.
@redbigun
@redbigun Жыл бұрын
Asuka is the biggest waste in Tekken history. I was excited to see what they would do with her after Tekken 5, but they've done nothing with her since except have her fight with Lili in every game since to fuel some ship between them or something. Sub-Zero: "Such wasted potential."
@adrian_veidt
@adrian_veidt 2 жыл бұрын
At least she didn't become a back up dancer like my boi Eddy
@SinCity2100
@SinCity2100 4 ай бұрын
Anyone here after Tekken 8?
@galacticpool1262
@galacticpool1262 4 жыл бұрын
Aside from Asuka and Steve, I really wish Yoshimitsu got to do more in the central narrative, and that Raven, Zafina, and Claudio, characters that should've been central to their respective tekken debuts, weren't wasted.
@InfeXiouZProductions
@InfeXiouZProductions Жыл бұрын
It took you a little over 4 minutes to do what Namco couldn't with such a potential character in over 10 fucking years. Bravo, and I mean that genuinely, sir.😄
@XxJunPe4chxX
@XxJunPe4chxX 4 жыл бұрын
I am a Jun Kazama main. As well as Asuka Kazama just because of the Kazama style. But this hurt. And yet it’s so true. I need Jun back ASAP.
@TJXCooler100
@TJXCooler100 4 жыл бұрын
4th Snake: What the hell happened to the series man, honestly? Me: It's slowly starting to turn into the MK Storyline.
@Mateus_Carvalho
@Mateus_Carvalho 4 жыл бұрын
Might've happened, tbh. Harada probably heard that MK's rebooted history was pretty good in the first one from someone who was maybe a bit too over-enthusiastic and started to take notes. Granted nobody told him shit was already going downhill over there but eh.
@TJXCooler100
@TJXCooler100 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mateus_Carvalho Yeah, because of MK9 presuming success with redefining story mode in fighting games, every fighting game is trying to shit their own versions of it; Tekken, Street Fighter, Soul Calibur, you name it but they all manage to fall short of what makes story, well, good.
@teriosshadow17
@teriosshadow17 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah and Harada's favoritism of Heihachi really shows. He tried to paint him as sympathetic and heroic despite the fact the all the evil shit he has done. He freaking murdered his own father who had no devil in him. I'm sorry but it freaking failed. I felt no sympathy towards Heihachi and he is still insane madman who tried to take over the world. Screw you, Mr. Harada. Thats not how you make villain sympathetic.
@TJXCooler100
@TJXCooler100 4 жыл бұрын
@@teriosshadow17 That's like the equivalent of making Shao Kahn sympathetic.
@teriosshadow17
@teriosshadow17 4 жыл бұрын
Shao Kahn: "I didn't do this. Sindel made me do it!"
@ClaudeSpeedGTA3
@ClaudeSpeedGTA3 20 сағат бұрын
I believed that non-canon endings are *WHAT IFS.* The story was canon.
@MechaG
@MechaG 4 жыл бұрын
"anime gut punch" made me chuckle
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