AMD, YES!

Its an Intel 6 Wifi card so wont need any changing anyways.

yeah true, saw this with D2D

@@P1X3L5L4Y3R if it craps out it's nice to know you can just buy a new one and repair it yourself.

@@sharkexpert12 not that it will in the near future, anyway. I mean it _is_ an Intel card.

There wasn't even time for the 5 second intro in this video 😂

$35 cheaper

@@LarryRichelli $200 difference when I just checked the 2060 max-q version a minute ago

I appreciate you, Thank You

Just got it for $1,059 before tax!

can we upgrade the ram and rom in this?

Nailed iiit!

Yeah seems to be the case!

well done? -soldered ram -no camera -CPU gets to 90-s in games -battery life is half the promised time. How is this well done? The new Ryzen 4000 chips deserve better than this.

@@TabalugaDragon 1.1 DIMM Slot is available to user 2. Upgradeable SSD and WIFI adapter 3. It's a 14 inch device that weights 1.65 kg 4. Intel 9750H reaches 95°C on 17" chassis 5. Many people hate having webcam for privacy reasons also even if it was included it would have been crappy anyway. 6. No MUC switch so in video playback the battery life is sub-par, in light usage it last for 9-10 hours check any other review. Overall it's a slim and light gaming laptop that's actually small and portable, what more can you ask for, the variant Jarrod reviewed costs $1449, so competitively priced.... Great for regular use.

@fifty YT Exactly and people still crib about lack of webcam on laptops, they are useless, a smartphone front camera is miles better in comparison

Came to say this.

Happy to help! It was my first time so wasn't really sure what things to mention, let me know if there is anything else I should be looking for!

lol

Lol i have never had an Intel

The next Cyrix

Yup. That's me.

Intel may be down now, but you can't assume the present situation is permanent. Hopefully they learn from the experience of being beaten for a while. When Intel and AMD are being highly competitive, that is best for consumers

Cheers mate!

Hi

@@JarrodsTech can you please say if i had to choose between alienware area 51m or g14 which should i buy

@@vanguardx891 G14 definitely

I want to know the same thing can it be charged with the 65 watt while gaming or how long will it last

​@@blackpanthertchallalem8522 If you buy this, I would advise you not to. The laptop is supposed to pull a certain amount of wattage during gaming and since you will be limiting its wattage input it could either be going back to battery while you are gaming (plugging itself in and out constantly), limit your FPS significantly, launch the game with the iGPU since it would be the only one satisfied with that power. In my opinion, use a 65 Watt charger for simple and not so GPU demanding tasks.

@@johnh.3823 no, it'll likely just take the 65w and discharge while gaming. depends on settings though as for how itll act with charging

Haha, yeah upgrade time!

you could take MAG 15 last year

Yeah impressive stuff for a 14"!

lol

Cheers David!

No problem!

That's a good point, FLAWED TEST UNSUBSCRIBE

My pleasure!

@Clorox Tree dont even need to OC for a 9980 to hit 90w, it just has to hit power limit before thermal limit and It'll go to 99w no problem

Me too, but alas, ASUS have not provided the G15 yet, not sure when it will be available.

@Clorox Tree yet the CPU gets to 90-s out of the box with no capability to undervolt. I'm not even sure you can change turbo ratio limits like you can on an Intel CPU

@@TabalugaDragon 90°C is normal for this kinds of laptops. I bet if they used an i7-9750H for this laptop you wouldn't complain just because it's Intel.

@@TabalugaDragon Remember undervolting will cease to exist starting from 10th Gen onwards. Courtesy Plundervolt.

I though corona makes them cheaper

@Super JLK What makes you think so?

Already seems like a decent price to me if you need CPU performance, compared to say more expensive thicker i9 👀

@Martin M thats not how it actually works. If people have less disposable income they will end up saving more, not spending. The reason why firms throw out deals is to increase sales and maintain some profit. I would think prices will be increasing since PC parts are becoming more and more scarce (since factories in China and other places are shutting down). but hey what do I know

@@JarrodsTech yeah I just realised that one of the highest variants cost that much, need to wait for this corona to end though lol

Wow, thanks!

About time!

Cheers!

Welcome to the channel!

Thanks! A couple of weeks until I'm allowed to share that one, but the specs within will go up this week.

@@JarrodsTech Thanks!

Which one would you choose between the G14 and the GS66?

Dude I'm in the same boat. I can get away with reading these comments though 😂

Cheers! Let us know what you think when you're able to watch haha

@@JarrodsTech This is funny because I mean't you here "Doing the work the people need, but don't deserve!" hahaha. I'm sure this one took a lot of hard work and long nights. Thanks for your work. Everyone appreciates it. See you at LTX2020!

Use "hardware info" software it's an all in one for monitoring detailed information about every aspect of your laptop or desktop. www.hwinfo.com/

Thanks a ton!

Cheers! No worries, good to hear the extra testing time was useful haha 😁

lol

@@lxDastanxl but isn't rtx still faster than radeon 5000 series? In normal mode?

@@mikaelhans4861 depend on what type. RX5300 on msi bravo 15 is kinda weak

@@theskywalker8416 the 5500m one doesn't do much better in fact, it barely manages to compete with 1660 ti as seen from test. But the sweet thing is that you can do cloud gaming with it(radeon gpus)(although its still in its early phase)

You'll be able to make stir fry on them for a lower price.

Yes

about an extra 10c I’d guess.

The HS processors are supposed to be binned versions that hit the same performance levels, so I imagine it would just run hotter.

m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j596lrqQsdq8eGw.html

200-300Mhz more under all-core load. The 4900HS appears to throttle back after 3-minutes of sustained load (after things like Cinebench already complete), and appears that it would have maintained 3.5.3-6Ghz with a 45W TDP. At 35W, it dips down closer to 3.3GHz. 10% sustained all-core performance gain on the H series vs HS. Benchmarks of the 4800H under sustained load appear like it'll outperform any of the HS series. The 4900H may do slightly better, or it may pull back to the same speed as the 4800H under sustained load.

It’ll be faster than any current intel chip until 10th gen comes out probably

It's not yet available, you can find listing on bestbuy tho

Happened on other reviews too (like Hardware Unboxed). At a guess they get supplied a link to use in the description, but they haven't managed to put the products on Amazon yet.

Yeah might not be up on Amazon just yet 😰

@@JarrodsTech still not up, how much USD was the one you reviewed?

Its available from Hi Devolution currently, however they have this model being reviewed at 150$ markup because they provide some kind of thermal upgrades to it

Much appreciated!

Honestly too many variables, I'd just be guessing if not making something up.

Yikes

Glad you liked it!

Thanks, hope you like it! Let us know how it goes!

Hey how is your experience with this machine

@@AhsanNadeem If you asked me, I cancelled my G14 order and bought an Eluktronics THICC-15 instead (same as the XMG APEX 15). Couldn't be happier.

Can i install 2tb ssd to this device.. And will you u recommend it in 2023

@@Jacksparrow-wt5ys TBH I didn't disassemble it or upgrade in any way, but I would be surprised if you couldn't? As for the recommendation - sure, but you can get a better spec for that price nowadays

Haha good timing!

I didn't have a monitor with Type-C input to test it out so cannot say, sorry.

Cheers!

About time!

Hope it lived up to the hype!

@@JarrodsTech the Laptop surely did , Hope Intel's Hexacore laptops come down in price soon

I'm not the only one then

Lmao! I did a double take when I saw it

Never screamed so loud

We were waiting for this video for a long time then hahaha

Then suddenly all the youtubers post the g14 video all at once

I'm having the same problem too. I'm still thinking of going for the MAG because of the 2070 Max-Q with 115W, because in the end, it's the GPU that limits gaming performance, not the crazy CPU. In saying that, the build quality, battery life, and overall of this laptop is insane for the price. If only it had Thunderbolt 3 so I could use another GPU besides the 2060, then this would be an insta-buy

Ahkam Nihardeen actually cpu is bottleneck, i7 9750h runs way too hot

Thanks, hope it was useful!

@@assizetech9059 The i7 does act as the bottleneck, but even so the gaming performance is still higher because of the GPU. I'm personally going to wait for laptops that feature the 4900HS/4900H + Thunderbolt 3 so I can provide my own GPU

Still a couple weeks til I can share that one, I didn't have time to do in depth CPU comparison, however I do have another 8 core 10th gen laptop here I could compare to! Ideally I'd want to wait til I get a Ryzen laptop with the same GPU though so we can also look at gaming.

@@JarrodsTech man part of me really wants this chip to be incorporated to the top end of what intel has to offer. I can't imagine what battery life and thermals can do for the 4900HS under the same chassis as the GS66 with a 99whr.

@@JarrodsTech G14/15 vs GL 65?

Anthony Chavez how much does it cost

@@zayxkzakazeta-reborn749 idk but the one you can pre-order at Best buy is like $1450 USD

I like it, in some ways, but the gaming/stress CPU temps seem as if cooling is indeed an issue. Which kinda surprises me, provided that during simultanous loads, CPU+GPU power consumption wouldn't surpass 100W. Now Razer has been putting 100W GPUs into their 15" thin and light Razer Blade laptops for a while now - they thermal throttle alright, but combined with the up-to-60W Intel CPU, they'd have to be able to dissipate 160W of heat at any moment. This laptop, which appears to have been built around cooling, struggles at 100W. I didn't think cooling was this hard.

Cheers!

@@ireminmon I don't see the cooling problems. As far as I can see it was never throttling. The reason Jarrod was getting slightly better performance with better cooling is because that's a particular behavior of AMD boosting algorithm. Instead of having a single max temperature where the CPU starts throttling, AMD boost has various point of inflection. So, for example if the CPU is running under 70ºC, it will boost more aggressively than if it's hitting 75ºC, even though it's not throttling. The boost has like three different points of inflection in the temperature lather which gives the temp management more granularity than Intel CPUs which have a single max temp point. AMD desktop CPUs behave like that too, though it's not as noticeable since cooling is generally better in desktop compared to laptops.

just buy a exernal webcam. Don't ditch this beast for just a webcam.

In this world situation no webcan is a crime.

I never use the built in crappy cam in any laptop... especially when decent 1080p external webcams are $30.

Sounds like a gaming period 😎

Get the compressed air out!

This is the best, you win.

Ok, does imagining 10 stacks of 10 g14s stacked on each other help?

Same I'll also buy this for college

I was told late April for Australia, not sure about other regions, it's not really clear, likely delays due to virus issues.

Yup, hate the stupid rainbow lights

Haha, give me the rainbow!

Yeah I thought that, but at the same time I wonder if it wasn't there, how much would really pass through all in the center vs the whole bottom heating up more evenly?

@@JarrodsTech, a quick look on McMaster-Carr (industrial supplier in the US) shows the thickest copper tape to be 0.0035" or 0.09 mm. Despite the added thermal resistance of the tape, and it's adhesive*, the spreading effect reduces the thermal density from the ~9 cm^2 each of the CPU & GPU blocks. Magnesium has ~3/4ths the thermal conductivity of aluminium/aluminum, which in itself is about half that of copper. The only way they could maybe do it better would be to use a graphite like [Panasonic's] PGS, but for the size, the costs would be more for the latter by a significant margin. Side note that I forgot about. You noticed that 8-10 °C difference between the sticker and chassis in your thermal image? That is because the emissivity of the sticker is much closer to the nominal 96-98% the microbolometer is calibrated for in software. When you do additional thermal imaging of laptops with metal chassis, put a bit of masking tape on the hot area to see what the actual temperature, else you're under reporting. If you re-ran the test and imaged it again without that spreader, I would expect to see ~70 °C right above the CPU & GPU assuming both are stressed. Probably more trouble than it's worth.

big oof

Helios if you want gaming performance for less money, this if you want smaller or CPU processing power. Review over 😎

@@JarrodsTech i like the part " review over😎" xDDDDD

@@JarrodsTech thanks for the answer mate

@@ammarkhan5897 if only the g14 was cheaper

Helios is not $1000 anymore, it’s over $1300 so price is almost comparable now. I chose this over the Helios. Do your research on the Helios 300 and check their forums

It's still a thin and light gaming laptop. Let's see how it performs in the bulkier gaming laptops. Also, if you want better performance there's the 45W 4900H compared to 35W here.

👍

Haha, well there were more screws than average, but I mean in terms of actually getting the panel off because it literally pops itself open when you undo the non-removable screw.

@@JarrodsTech better than the type of back panel which u need to ply open after taken out all the screws and with plastic hooks (example: MSI GE63 Raider). This is way more serviceable and good accessibility

Abdallah Emad or the Asus gx502 gv/gw

Wait til the end of the week, I will have info on new upcoming ASUS models that replace the Scar III.

That's not what you actually hear though, it seems loud because of the mic, in reality its way less loud.

It indeed is loud on my Scar III 240 hz RTX 2070 So I think it will be loud here too

You cannot game with complete peace and no matter how well fans work none work good enough to be mute while gaming.......... I mean look at iMacs and their laptops they suck at gaming even with loud fans.

It's hard to get how it sounds across yeah as it depends on my mic, youtube compression, and your volume. I use the same settings so the volume is at least comparable between laptops I review if that helps. Not sure what you mean by the 120 vs 60 thing, I tested games at 120Hz, but this doesn't affect the FPS reported.

noName yet if u dont have noise cancelling headphones ur not gonna hear the game audio

But AMD cannot have intel exclusives like QuickSync which makes DaVici resolve a breeze hope they make something similar to it (I am not an intel fanboy)

@@ca9inec0mic58 I'm just looking at the positives of an AMD powered laptop. I never imagined that we could get i9 tier performance on a thin and light chassis which weighs just around 1.7 kg. My office laptop HP Probook is another 14 incher at the same weight, is light years slower with i7 8550U and an integrated GPU. And the 4900HS is not even trying and is delivering i9 level performance at 35 Watts - imagine what will happen if Asus puts the same chip in its bigger Scar chassis and lets the horses run free with the standard 70W limit it allows for the current 9th gen parts. And if they slip in one with an unlocked multiplier, even Cinebench will break, let alone Intel.

It's not hard limit. 4900HS gets 65W for few seconds and if full load continues limit drops to 55W. It stays there until cpu reaches 90C(takes couple minutes) and then starts to slide towards 35W preserving 90C thermal cap. Clock speeds at each limit are ~4GHz@65W, ~3.7GHz@55W and ~3.3GHz@35W. Power figures and clock speeds aren't fixed, thermals have significant influence on them as boost algorithm tries to extract additional performance before cooling system gets saturated. It takes about 3 minutes of full load to drop down to 35W limit. This is how Asus G14 works, different laptop with different cooling capacity can have different boosting profile. Weaker cooling with less thermal buffer certainly reduces time on boost. Intel chips do similar thing, they aren't capped at 45W or whatever TDP they have.

@@kognak6640 Intel too dynamically changes its power limits through it's so called 'DPTF', famously known as cancer software by many. But the point that I'm asking is, when Jarrod says at the same 35W power draw, adding more cooling is able to increase the frequency by 100-150 MHz, which I don't think is the case with Intel chips - an Intel CPU running at 60C seems to run at almost the same speed at 90C as well - if there's a drop in frequency, the power drops to match it. But that's not the case with AMD as, with increasing temperatures, the power doesn't drop even after drop in frequency I mean, the CPU's efficiency (clock vs temperature) on Intel is not as affected as AMD is.

Yeah that would be fun to tweak 🤤

No it's not it final form there the 45 watt one

It's looking like it, and it's not even the H version!

@@JarrodsTech What if they slip in an unlocked multiplier variant of 4900H? That's surely gonna one shot intel.

@@gamersanditparadise I think AMD new that Intel will immediately after them release new mobile 10gen, and I'm sure that AMD already have something prepared that will destroy and humiliate Intel even more after this. Can't wait to see how will everything move in the rest of the year! :D

@@drfleka Yeah. Intel will now be pressurized to bring 10nm quickly by the starting of 2021. It was Intel being super lazy, so much that Intel became the heir and AMD became the tortoise - resemblance is pretty much there.

at 14'' isnt that unnecessary?

@Darshan Agyat that's true, I would really want to see a 1440p and 144hz monitor in a laptop

I don't think it's that useful at 14" for me personally, but good to give the user the choice rather than being forced one way or the other. Hopefully we get 1440p at larger screens 👌

@@JarrodsTech yeah, 1440p on 17 inches is understandable.

in laptops? i dont think so mate ;)

rip

@@fiorathegrandduelist4444 The fact that it is cheaper, more powerful, consumes less power and produces less heat, is a total NO BRAINER for Gaming Laptop manufacturers.

@@fiorathegrandduelist4444 what do u mean in laptops? did u wtach the review or not?

@@Radhaugo108 Apparently, the no brainer is just go Intel anyway. Since AMD laptops hardly exist.

lol

Yes. The Nvidia GPU renders the frames, sends them via the Vega iGPU and this connects to the screen and handles FreeSync.

Close to the LAST-GEN i9.

@@WeatherxCalipha with 2x less power draw and a much thiner and lighter 14inc model, the upcoming new 10th gen intel is still on 14nm so nothing will change in terms of efficiency

@@WeatherxCalipha yeah @noName yet is right

Agni Bhattacharyya even on this laptop as the temp isn't that high

I have a video in a couple days comparing the i9-9980HK at 90W 👀 the results are interesting to say the least.

It's a good way to demonstrate the balance of a laptop. Otherwise you'll experience issues while using it in your lap. Being all tippy and what not.

Opening with one finger tests the wight distribution.. If a laptop can be opened with one finger, it is well wight-distributed.

n!tromy It FEELS good, try it with any Macbook :)

Here you go: jarrods.tech/is-opening-a-laptop-with-one-finger-important/