"At what point is it considered an eating disorder?"

"At what point is it considered an eating disorder?" - AKA 118

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Ask Kati Anything ep. 118 | Your mental health podcast, with Kati Morton, LMFT
1. I was wondering if you have any tips on telling the difference between an intrusive thought and a real memory? And, is it possible to create false memories from intrusive thoughts? (COMMENT: Also, can intrusive thoughts be a whole scene that plays out in your head? Like a horror movie on repeat that I have no control over. Does this make me a horrible person? // In addition, how can you tell the difference between having intrusive thoughts and something actually being wrong with you (like SI/antisocial stuff etc.) and does everyone have intrusive thoughts? (ego dystonic is intrusive - ego syntonic is antisocial) // Also is there a difference between automatic thoughts and intrusive thoughts? I feel like my therapist uses them interchangeably?)
2. My question is about therapy for my 7 year old daughter. I took her to a therapist (one that was recommended by my therapist) and prior to my daughter’s first appointment I had a phone conversation with the child therapist and asked permission to stay present in the room because of my own past trauma and to ensure her safety....
3. Am I a horrible person to fantasize about being sexually assaulted/ raped and then fantasize about someone(a father figure) coming and saving me? I was sexually abused by a family friend for 6 years(nobody knows about this except a few friends) and I...
4. What can I do to get better at being comfortable when things are actually okay? I have struggled with anxiety as well as depression on and off throughout my...
5. i found your podcast a couple weeks ago during a maybe depressive episode, and your great advice has provided me with a lot of comfort! anyway, here's my question: why does it feel as though i've "gotten over" my eating disorder?
6. I hope you are well. I am wondering at what point it is considered an ED? I know you've mentioned in the past about spending most of your day thinking about food, but I don't think I really do that, I just avoid it. Part of the problem is...
7. What is your advice for highly sensitive people who would like to become a therapist? It seems like we might be more affected by hearing traumatic stories. How can we avoid this?
8. I have a question about attachment in the therapeutic relationship. Since I've had therapy, I've noticed that my mood becomes more and more dependent on how my therapist responds to...
9. How do we stay strong when we’re unsafe? While I’m not physically unsafe in my current situation, my boundaries are consistently violated and I have to listen to the verbal abuse my dad endures...
10. Why is it that I am so stressed out by uncertainty and new things? I get really stressed out when I meet new people. And I get really stressed out when I am asked questions I didn't expect. Or when someone unexpectedly...
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@cynderazuleehirgon3684 8 ай бұрын

The 'assaulting' and 'rescue' fantasy I definitely relate to that. But I feel like no one would ever desire to touch me in a vulnerable way unless they are abusing me/ and that no one would care for me unless I am being abused in some drastic way.

@emileehoerl98 Жыл бұрын

Wanted to add with question 6… forgetting to eat, and being very picky can be part of a nerodivergent brain as well. Food is hard sometimes! You are not alone 😊

@maddie_142 Жыл бұрын

lol I was literally diagnosed with severe ADHD a few days after asking this question, so that could definitely be a part of it!

@anniekate76 Жыл бұрын

Timestamps! 1:18 1. I was wondering if you have any tips on telling the difference between an intrusive thought and a real memory? And, is it possible to create false memories from intrusive thoughts? (COMMENT: Also, can intrusive thoughts be a whole scene that plays out in your head? Like a horror movie on repeat that I have no control over. Does this make me a horrible person? // In addition, how can you tell the difference between having intrusive thoughts and something actually being wrong with you (like SI/antisocial stuff etc.) and does everyone have intrusive thoughts? (ego dystonic is intrusive - ego syntonic is antisocial) // Also is there a difference between automatic thoughts and intrusive thoughts? I feel like my therapist uses them interchangeably?) 12:14 2. My question is about therapy for my 7 year old daughter. I took her to a therapist (one that was recommended by my therapist) and prior to my daughter’s first appointment I had a phone conversation with the child therapist and asked permission to stay present in the room because of my own past trauma and to ensure her safety.... 21:22 3. Am I a horrible person to fantasize about being sexually assaulted/ raped and then fantasize about someone(a father figure) coming and saving me? I was sexually abused by a family friend for 6 years(nobody knows about this except a few friends) and I... 31:44 4. What can I do to get better at being comfortable when things are actually okay? I have struggled with anxiety as well as depression on and off throughout my... 37:18 5. i found your podcast a couple weeks ago during a maybe depressive episode, and your great advice has provided me with a lot of comfort! anyway, here's my question: why does it feel as though i've "gotten over" my eating disorder? 43:43 6. I hope you are well. I am wondering at what point it is considered an ED? I know you've mentioned in the past about spending most of your day thinking about food, but I don't think I really do that, I just avoid it. Part of the problem is... 52:32 7. What is your advice for highly sensitive people who would like to become a therapist? It seems like we might be more affected by hearing traumatic stories. How can we avoid this? 57:03 8. I have a question about attachment in the therapeutic relationship. Since I've had therapy, I've noticed that my mood becomes more and more dependent on how my therapist responds to... 1:02:20 9. How do we stay strong when we’re unsafe? While I’m not physically unsafe in my current situation, my boundaries are consistently violated and I have to listen to the verbal abuse my dad endures... 1:06:02 10. Why is it that I am so stressed out by uncertainty and new things? I get really stressed out when I meet new people. And I get really stressed out when I am asked questions I didn't expect. Or when someone unexpectedly...

@nikkimckay860 Жыл бұрын

Anniekate76.hello again and hope your Thursday s going well thank you for the timestamps as always

@anniekate76 Жыл бұрын

@@nikkimckay860 You're welcome! Good to see you Nikki! :)

@Vntoronto Жыл бұрын

Thank you @anniekate76!🙏🏻😊

@AnnabellaRedwood Жыл бұрын

Thank you! ❤

@Adderall_sorry Жыл бұрын

Thank you😊

@sage2993 Жыл бұрын

Sorta related to question 8: I ended up telling my therapist about some transference related feelings I developed after it clicked for me that they really did care about me. Not once had I ever felt that to that point in my life and I started to mix up the therapeutic relationship with a clearly fantastical other kind of relationship. Wow was that ever the wrong thing to do. I have never felt more devastated in my entire life. They effectively (from my view) pushed me out the door with subtle changes (moving from in person to virtual, fewer appointments, less time per session, getting mad at me for feelings I know I didn’t have). I still think about it and wonder if I could have done things differently and we are now months later and a hospital stay away from that time. I wish I could just let it go and chalk it up to a collision of emotional triggers. I just wish I could take it all back or make it right, but obviously reaching out is a real stupid idea. Oh well. Shit sucks, I hope it goes away.

@joannatarbit391 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for such a helpful video. I have an eating disorder but I also gain a lot of insight and awareness into what other people struggle with from watching these. Thank you for caring and giving so much Kati. 🌟

@ailehannahoj2283 Жыл бұрын

the answers about ED helped me so much, thank you! I always feel like the pain around food isn’t enough to say that I have an Ed, but this makes me much more comfy with saying and thinking it.

@LessThanThree76 Жыл бұрын

Perfect timing! 😍👏👏👏 My therapist told me this week that I have an eating disorder and I’ve never thought of it that way before since I either binge eat, starve myself or throw up. I’m just very picky and restrictive, which I never thought of as a proper eating disorder. So this will be super interesting to listen to. Thank you for the upload and Happy Midsummer from Sweden. 🌺☀️🍹🥳🇸🇪

@MabelRD08 Жыл бұрын

You're so underrated. Your content js sooo good and so easily explained. Thanks for everything you do throughout the years and thank you for being honest with us and also sharing your struggles. ❤🇩🇴🌹Gracias mamá Kinnion

@ahmed2527 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Kati.❤️

@LivFP Жыл бұрын

This is super relevant for me rn tysm!

@maddie_142 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Kati for answering my question and helping me understand this better! I feel called out, but in a good way lol 😂 You made some great points for me to think about. Thanks again for everything. Sending love ❤️

@Katimorton Жыл бұрын

Hi! Sorry for the delay :)

@nikkimckay860 Жыл бұрын

Kati Morton. Hello 👋it's ok I was patiently waiting for AKA podcast good evening from uk💜

@DAPalomares Жыл бұрын

The Podcast is always worth the wait.

@Vntoronto Жыл бұрын

Hi Kati, greetings from Canada! I’ve recently watched all your AKA over the past weeks. Thank you so much for filming. I always look forward to AKA. It really helps!🧡🙏🏻👋🏻

@nikkimckay860 Жыл бұрын

@@DAPalomares hello how are you doing how's things

@nikkimckay860 Жыл бұрын

@@Vntoronto hello I'm Nikki from uk like meeting new people here in the comments and asking how people are doing 🙂

@taddreams Жыл бұрын

Big fan of the podcast. Would it be possible for you to add time stamps to the individual questions? Some questions apply to my struggles more than others and I'd like to be able to find the answers I'm most interested in easier.

@katoptron6583 7 ай бұрын

Question 10: the first association I had with these symptoms is autism. For sure anxiety is far more common, but if treating this doen't benefit much, it might be a path to go down. Especially women with autism often first get diagnosed with anxiety or depression because they are masking so well that they "don't look autistic".

@janetslater129 Жыл бұрын

I'm listening to the episode right now. In terms of the intrusive thoughts, they can also play a huge part in PTSD. A lot of us who have PTSD have high levels of anxiety, and our thoughts can run 100mph on repeat, along with those thoughts coming in. For me, mine were terrifying as I'm very visual and the visuals can be very intense (although I don't dissociate), and it would cause these all out wars in my head that I'm really such a terrible person. In my health state of mind, I wouldn't even consider doing something that damaging to someone, but it's also still easy for my PTSD head to start rearing it's ugly head and shout back "YES YOU ARE," and make me wonder if I'm really such a person. I will also add on that things have gotten a lot better with this, and medication has REALLY helped with slowing down the thoughts, along with using other positive coping skills. However, it still feels like a dark skeleton that likes to hide in the closet.

@nikkimckay860 Жыл бұрын

Janet slater. How are you doing how's things hope you remember me it's Nikki we met in KATI ☺️

@janetslater129 Жыл бұрын

@@nikkimckay860 Hi! Yes! I remember you. I'm okay, but been going through some complicated, mixed up feelings about eating as my last cholesterol test the other week came back high, and it's bringing out the perfectionist side in me....like that I have to be "good" with my eating and "get back on track" with eating lower cholesterol foods, eat more foods that help reduce cholesterol (even if I don't really want to do), that I *should* be adding XYZ to what I eat, etc. I'm going to be journaling about it, and talking about it in therapy and such, as this does seem to be a bit of a cycle for me.

@rhythmoflove2 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@nikkimckay860 Жыл бұрын

Kati Morton. Hello so glad to see you again iv been looking forward to a new AKA podcast all week you are always part of my Thursday your calming voice the way you answer people s questions and the deep detail you go to to explain things is the best and good set of questions too also you looking nice in that colerfuller top I wrote to you on Instagram ❤️

@DrPatrickKingsep Жыл бұрын

Hi Kati and others on this channel, great video and good answers to questions once again... interesting that you filmed 4 videos in short succession Kati - very busy for you. What question did you find most interesting?

@janetslater129 Жыл бұрын

Another thing that I'm trying to figure out....is purposely having food that is low (or doesn't have) the LDL cholesterol and saturated fat most of the time? High cholesterol runs hard in my family, along with heart problems (I have two minor heart conditions that was discovered last year), and my own father passed away from a massive heart attack two years ago, which is the source of my trauma. My dad had his first heart attack at 46, and my mom passed from complications of MS when she was 48. I'm almost 42, and the thought of having a major heart complication, or even death is very scary for me. I'm trying to take better charge of my health as a result (both mentally and physically), but I don't like that I had an increase in my cholesterol medication, as my LDL numbers went back up...not to dangerous levels that they had been, but higher than what is considered healthy/normal. In the past, I had brought it down by purposely avoiding cholesterol most days, but allowing myself to eat much more freely maybe one or two days a week. Then, within these past few months, I feel like I had swung the other way by allowing myself to eat whenever whatever.....pizza, fries, burgers, etc. I find that sometimes I find myself thinking "Enjoy this now as you may regret it later." Sometimes, I will also just think "Fuck it. I need to enjoy this." But yeah, it sucked to see those numbers go back up, as I feel like I sort of "deserve" it since I allowed myself to get "off the tracks," and I'm now back to eating low cholesterol and saturated fat again most of the time. What gives?

@libbycatherine Жыл бұрын

Hi Kati, can you expand a bit on question 6-- about forgetting to eat being tied to trauma and feeling disconnected? Idk what my relationship with food is, and I go through cycles of eating garbage/convience foods and trying to eat "healthy." Cooking feels overwhelming and exhausting and so if it's not easily accessible I just don't eat. But then I end up eating junk which makes me feel even more sluggish and yuck. Sometimes I try to cook but I get really black and white about it, like if it's not healthy I shouldn't bother. But honestly I'm rarely actually hungry anyway. I don't think about it until my husband comes home and then I remember I was supposed to cook dinner and we end up getting fast food. It doesn't feel intentional, more like a habit of not eating. I get distracted during the day. I do have a trauma history and struggle with feeling incapable, and that tends to come up for me when I think about meal planning/cooking.

@corabosse342 Жыл бұрын

I have intrusive thoughts about things that I could've done in the past, even though I have no memory of these things happening, my brain is bent on convincing me that I am a horrible person. I meant that I was wondering if there was a definitive way to tell if they are real or not?

@charlin2572 Жыл бұрын

Sorry had to say I love how you say ugh eating disorders F them their the worst”. Like we know you know just from that comment.

@Ktbk11 7 ай бұрын

I have been diagnosed with BPD,depression and anixety.And how my psychiatrist called it."Controlled ED"Because according to him I still have it under control.....

@grandmastermario3695 Жыл бұрын

Well since that the parent needs to be in there with the kids, then probably more parents will get away with the abuse, because kids are often just to afraid to speak up about it when the parents are in the room, that's so sad 😥

@natalieedelstein Жыл бұрын

The enmeshment phenomenon you described (especially in the HSP context) sounds like it might also be related to the experience of masking with autism. What do you think, Kati? Can enmeshment be a way masking gets portrayed?

@nikkimckay860 Жыл бұрын

Good evening and Hello how is everyone doing this morning or afternoon or is it even where you are from what is the time right now for you for me it is 20:03 pm I am the one who come s here every Thursday to share care/support/ and love and advice to anyone I can help to feel calm and a little better in themselves and of course I'm here for Kati s AKA podcast questions and answers 👍💟

@JustmeGemmy Жыл бұрын

I can't afford a therapist who has training in EDs & my last therapist was really harmful for me. Is it possible to get ED treatment from a therapist who doesn't have ED training or experience?

@LisaEti Жыл бұрын

I want to ask something related to question number 6. I am eating less than I used to because of another illness lately. Or I think that I do not need that much food, water anyway in that moment. I am not avoiding it by my own choice, at least I think that way. I was wondering if it is "only" a symptom of my other illness or could it be an eating disorder too? Thanks a lot up front. Regards Lisa

@justanotherperson5821 Жыл бұрын

Eating less because of an illness can still be an eating disorder. There is anorexia and anorexia nervousa, anorexia nervousa involves body image issues and fear of gaining weight, but just anorexia involves the inability or unwillingness to eat for whatever reason, including as a result from an illness.

@LisaEti Жыл бұрын

@@justanotherperson5821 thank you for your answer. I´m neither vomiting nor binging or anything else. I am just not hungry sometimes and if I feel better I can eat again regularly.

@jaqelizabeth2805 Жыл бұрын

What do you think about personal trainers who are trying to get a cleint a fat loss result, are you suggesting that all forms of tracking food and macros are "eating disorders" Also do you think "restriction" is a bad thing. Could it be a good behaviour too?

@toni2309 Жыл бұрын

Question no. 10: I kinda don't get it. You described anxiety vs. stress a few times on your podcast, saying anxiety is uncontrollable worry whereas stress is in reaction to a stressor. And I tend to have situations and shut down. The time before and worrying isn't my problem, it's how I react when something happens that is the problem. When I hear from people with anxiety, it seems to be "oh I worry about X thing that is super unlikely to happen". But for me it's more like, I experienced a lot of microagressions, and they hurt more and more, and then I started to get anxious they might happen again... which they do.

@kylapollard9275 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering about eating disorders…… I’ve been restricting for the past 12months and have a lot of rules around food. In the last month I’ve started to take Sertraline (Zoloft) for SI and depression, however, I’ve started to heavily binge on foods (particularly my safe foods but very occasionally breaking my rules). I don’t seem to be able to know when to stop when I start and usually end up in a lot of pain. I feel so disgusted by this, I’m hating myself more and more with everyday that I’m doing it. I’m also punishing myself with SH and even that has been increasing in severity. I feel like I’m stuck in a vicious circle at the moment where I had things under control before. Could it be the antidepressant (even though I have stopped it only a couple days ago and the binging seems to be slowing somewhat) or could it be, as Kati said, my ED being a chameleon? I haven’t been officially diagnosed with an ED as of yet but had met up with a dietician a couple weeks ago and now I feel like I’m a fraud and I don’t deserve it cause clearly I don’t need the help, I didn’t believe I needed it in the first place anyway cause I didn’t think it and still don’t think it was that bad.

@Helena-ox7cr 11 ай бұрын

I have heard this can cause gainings

@kylapollard9275 11 ай бұрын

@@Helena-ox7cr the medication can cause weight gain and for me it was a lot of fluid retention right throughout my body but mainly in my legs - they became like logs. I had gained a substantial amount of weight even my T was surprised. I’m just glad I took myself off of it asap cause it was an allergic reaction. Still the docs didn’t believe me but that’s in the past now. I had a DNA test on MH and pain meds done and it showed my body really doesn’t like Sertraline.

@nikkimckay860 Жыл бұрын

Just been reading the people s questions and I got confused again because these are all different questions and I seen Kati say she's changing the question s to themed again I would have tried to ask my question again if I had known she hasn't changed the questions yet oh well

@nikkimckay860 Жыл бұрын

@@settembrini3301 ok thank you

@allisonwilliams8470 Жыл бұрын

Yay!

@nikkimckay860 Жыл бұрын

Allison Williams. Hello and good evening from uk how are you doing this morning or afternoon or night 🙂

@allisonwilliams8470 Жыл бұрын

@@nikkimckay860 hey! I’m doing gr8! Wbu

@rachelheflin0584 Жыл бұрын

I am being told that I need to go inpatient bcuz of me contacting the emily program and now I am scared.

@Helena-ox7cr 11 ай бұрын

What? People can forget about door just a couple of hours? Those gotta be sugar addicted people. A person who avoids grains, sugars and stuff and mainly live by meat and fats and vegetables can easily go 24 hours without thinking food as fat can digest even 25h in your body.

@andrealennon4384 8 ай бұрын

as a Therapist or a psychiatrist grief

@grandmastermario3695 Жыл бұрын

Wait what OK so if a kid is being abused, and if the parent is there the kid maybe to afraid to speak up, if the parent leaves then they won't be so afraid to speak up, same thing happened to me when I was a kid mom would take me into appointments and complain about my behavior but she would never admit to any abuse or any trauma and I didn't say anything, to afraid to so of course the abuse continued, so kids shouldn't be alone I therapy really often were going to not know that the abuse is going on, just often to afraid to say infront of the abusive parent, so often it's a dumbĺ there should just be cameras, if the kid isn't comfortable being in the room with the parent.

@r.e.d.l6219 11 ай бұрын

Is it just me, or does that last person sound like maybe autism related anxiety....

@rangerannie5636 Жыл бұрын

Too long a video with too many topics. When you can stick to one topic per video I'll try watching another one. Sacramento, California USA 🇺🇸

@jordanelders6421 Жыл бұрын

Now, being diagnosed with Pure OCD- it’s crazy remembering how my entire life I’ve had so many characteristics of it- Including spelling words out!! It’s so wild how it manifested as a child/teen, and how now it’s changed as an adult and a mother. It’s very scary- especially mixed with DPDR🥲

@margotgrey1006 Жыл бұрын

I also have OCD, and DPDR

@jordanelders6421 Жыл бұрын

@@margotgrey1006 I’m so sorry :( it’s so hard!!