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@RajaAdou
@RajaAdou Ай бұрын
Did him dirty??? He’s making $100M GUARANTEED after a major injury. Cousins should shut up and rehab. Ridiculous… This is business!!!
@jabaricrewsellis8740
@jabaricrewsellis8740 Ай бұрын
This is nasty business even the owner was puzzled bssed on the video that showed the gm trying to explain this pick to the owner. The falcons shouldve used the pick on a player that could play RIGHT NOW not a player thats not gonna play for the next 2 seasons 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️
@abelnightroad5162
@abelnightroad5162 Ай бұрын
its business but its stupid way of doing business. you dont give a guy 100m then draft his replacement when you could adress your team problem. its like you spend money on new phone and not even 2 months old phone you get new phone becouse you think your previous phone CAN be broken anytime.
@Mystic_man727
@Mystic_man727 Ай бұрын
@@abelnightroad5162how much $$ do you think Arthur Blank will make in the next 2 yrs…these are billionaires you are speaking of. The owner wants 2 players to battle for the most important position on the team. End of story.
@Kipmoney_
@Kipmoney_ Ай бұрын
@@jabaricrewsellis8740that’s the dumbest post I’ve ever seen on here. You really think the owner sat there and let the GM make a pick for a QB without his input? Jesus. Christ
@kacornish1
@kacornish1 Ай бұрын
They’re paying $100 million guaranteed for two years to a bridge QB. And they’ll have a 24/25 year old rookie QB on the bench for two years, wasting half his cheap rookie contract. He’ll be 27 when they can finally cut Cousins. That’s STUPID business! LOL…
@steve_santiago
@steve_santiago Ай бұрын
“Why would you pay $100 million for an inevitable quarterback controversy?” 🤣
@bigk2198
@bigk2198 Ай бұрын
It is clear Mr Blank was sick of the poor quarterback play since Matt Ryan left. Now we have two good options at QB. I like it.
@sterlingcunningham2399
@sterlingcunningham2399 Ай бұрын
@@bigk2198why did y’all pay Kirk so much tho? Minnesota was the only team y’all was competing with and they offered 2 years 76 million? Why y’all need to give him 100 mill guaranteed??? Y’all overpaid for sure
@bigk2198
@bigk2198 Ай бұрын
@@sterlingcunningham2399 My guess is Arthur Blank approved the deal. When you are an aging billionaire and a falcons fan, you might get impatient with mediocre quarterback play.
@sgrapness4678
@sgrapness4678 Ай бұрын
If Cousins wins a superbowl, no one will care about Penix being drafted 8th. If X years from now Penix wins a superbowl, no one will care how expensive Cousins contract was.
@levisingleton4921
@levisingleton4921 Ай бұрын
Obviously. You could spend all your picks to draft a kicker first over all, and if that dude kicks the superbowl winning kick, everyone would be happy. It doesn't suddenly make it a genius move
@bunjidogg
@bunjidogg Ай бұрын
Both huge if's and unlikely.
@MisterMooster
@MisterMooster Ай бұрын
Cousins will not play to his potential after this, he has to be demoralized- terrible thing to do to both qbs.
@jacobraby45
@jacobraby45 Ай бұрын
Trash defense? Tf our defense is the reason we won those 7 games.
@tajayaeanderson4848
@tajayaeanderson4848 Ай бұрын
They be on here just talking frfr!
@jordanthomas8440
@jordanthomas8440 Ай бұрын
One of the worst defenses in football is funny. Really wish I could get paid to talk about things I have 0 idea about lol😂
@cedricthomas9069
@cedricthomas9069 Ай бұрын
No explanation needed to Kirk cousins you got a hundred million guaranteed have your ass ready to play
@williamcarter9066
@williamcarter9066 Ай бұрын
And that’s all it comes down too 😂😂😂
@rozzey1321
@rozzey1321 Ай бұрын
Yeah you don’t need to be on the same page with the guy that’s running your team 😂. You just go out and play. As a matter of fact you don’t need a play book just read that 100 mill we gave you. You don’t even need a connection with the players on your team. Just make that money😂. Boy boy boy. These comments 😂
@levisingleton4921
@levisingleton4921 Ай бұрын
​@rozzey1321 Yup. NFL players are just robots. No need to think about the ramifications of your actions....
@michaeljohnson7945
@michaeljohnson7945 Ай бұрын
​@@rozzey1321 I don't see why anyone would be empathetic for Kirk Cousins, who has been the closest thing to an NFL mercenary since he left Washington. He negotiates and signs only for large, guaranteed contracts, which he did twice in Minnesota. He left Minnesota for Atlanta solely because the Falcons offered him the contract with the largest guarantees. Cousins just got to Atlanta less than two months ago -- he has no built-in equity with the Falcons, and he had no such loyalty with Minnesota after six years playing there. Teams with much better quarterbacks who were entrenched in their organizations far longer than Cousins (Joe Montana, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, etc.) made similar succession plans without involving the incumbent quarterbacks. Cousins' job is to help make Atlanta competitive and help further the development of Kyle Pitts, Drake London and Bijan Robinson over the next two years, and he is getting paid the market value of a quarterback of his caliber. He will be 36 years old at the start of the season and is coming off a ruptured Achilles injury. If Cousins thought he would still be in Atlanta playing until he was 40 years old, then he was delusional.
@michaeljohnson7945
@michaeljohnson7945 Ай бұрын
@@rozzey1321 I don't see why anyone would be empathetic for Kirk Cousins, who has been the closest thing to an NFL mercenary since he left Washington. He negotiates and signs only for large, guaranteed contracts, which he did twice in Minnesota. He left Minnesota for Atlanta solely because the Falcons offered him the contract with the largest guarantees. Cousins just got to Atlanta less than two months ago -- he has no built-in equity with the Falcons, and he had no such loyalty with Minnesota after six years playing there. Teams with much better quarterbacks who were entrenched in their organizations far longer than Cousins (Joe Montana, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, etc.) made similar succession plans without involving the incumbent quarterbacks. Cousins' job is to help make Atlanta competitive and help further the development of Kyle Pitts, Drake London and Bijan Robinson over the next two years, and he is getting paid the market value of a quarterback of his caliber. He will be 36 years old at the start of the season and is coming off a ruptured Achilles injury. If Cousins thought he would still be in Atlanta playing until he was 40 years old, then he was delusional.
@Boston_CremePie
@Boston_CremePie Ай бұрын
dirty? 😂 if anything they did Penix dirty 😢
@isachayden9987
@isachayden9987 Ай бұрын
What has Kirk done in the league? Think about this folks, he has only one more playoff wins than Penix Jr. Face it, Kirk Cousins is the Hamburglar! If you were wondering where Ronald Macdonalds nemesis went. He went on to play quarterback in the NFL and stole 330 million dollars from the league!
@isachayden9987
@isachayden9987 Ай бұрын
@hallewis9081 If those stats don't translate to the big win, it's just quarterbacking masterbation, my friend.
@sgrapness4678
@sgrapness4678 Ай бұрын
​@@hallewis9081The only people who care about that are stat-nerds or Hall-of-Fame voters.
@VerbalDecuir33
@VerbalDecuir33 Ай бұрын
Lmmfao! Nice
@emperorscoop7416
@emperorscoop7416 Ай бұрын
Atlanta was a top 10 defense for most of last year without Grady Jarret playing most of the season actually
@elsonjohnson-tx7tp
@elsonjohnson-tx7tp Ай бұрын
After the honeymoon,you introduced her to your new girlfriend...how does that Atlanta.lok
@Diggla504
@Diggla504 Ай бұрын
😂
@levisingleton4921
@levisingleton4921 Ай бұрын
I have YET to hear a good argument for signing Cousins AND drafting Penix at 8. We did not have to get Kirk as Penix being available at 8 was never a question.
@truthbearer7891
@truthbearer7891 Ай бұрын
Literally revisionist history. JJ McCarthy draft stock was inflated over last couple of months. It was no guarantee that a team wouldn’t trade ahead of Falcons to get Penix. It’s a brilliant pick because it’s unlikely Falcons will be in position to draft a QB as good as Penix anytime soon with them having a QB like Kirk in mediocre division they won’t be picking top 10 even if they lose early in playoffs
@VerbalDecuir33
@VerbalDecuir33 Ай бұрын
Kirk is 36 years old coming off of an achilles injury. When he's healthy he's been a very good QB, but unfortunately due to his age he's on the back end of his career which is why ATL front loaded his contract making it essentially a 2 year deal. Drafting Penix at 8 gives ATL insurance on so many levels because there isn't any guarantee that Kirk stay healthy so Penix will be there to step in immediately if that happens. Penix Jr's contract will be on par with most backup QB money due to where he has picked. He's slotted to make between $4-5M this upcoming season due to his draft slot which makes picking him not bad at all. For comparisons sake the Falcons paid Taylor Heinicke $7M last season to be the backup to Desmond Ridder. If Kirk plays great his first 2 seasons and the Falcons as a team makes the playoffs or make deep playoff runs by his 2nd season then I could see Kirk maybe making it to the 3rd year of his contract with the Falcons but that's highly unlikely. I definitely don't see Kirk making it to 4th year of his contract at all. Penix will be the starter by then. If Penix doesn't become starter by the 4th season of his rookie deal then that likely means 2 things. 1) Kirk is playing out of his mind and the Falcons as a team is having major success. 2) The Falcons will have all the leverage in Penix Jr's second NFL contract due to Penix not being proven by that time. So more than likely his second contract would be more of a team friendly deal where Penix gets to prove his worth as the starter. 🤷🏾‍♂️ With that being said my prediction is Penix Jr. will be starter by year 3 because while I anticipate the Falcons having some success and maybe winning the NFC SOUTH with Kirk at QB. I don't believe the Falcons will be so good to justify Kirk still being the starting QB at age 38. That's just my opinion. How'd I do? Lol
@CTback
@CTback Ай бұрын
I can see why Atlanta would try Green Bay's plan to develop a QB. But not telling Kirk beforehand? That tells me there's not much faith in his achilles holding up.
@kaydee2126
@kaydee2126 Ай бұрын
Just curious, why should they have told him what they were doing?
@antoniojames9493
@antoniojames9493 Ай бұрын
He's not Matt Ryan😆 He don't have no equity with the Falcons yet
@leonlewis3639
@leonlewis3639 Ай бұрын
I agree with you,the Falcons did not owe Kirk C an explanation.Has he played for the Falcons yet ? No,but he's getting paid,how much ?
@anaihilator
@anaihilator Ай бұрын
The Green Bay comparison is false. Rodgers was already thr established starter and the team hadn't just paid him 100 million dollars. Also, Jordan love was like 20...it was a given he would sit. Love wasn't 24 years old and a 6 year college QB.
@truthbearer7891
@truthbearer7891 Ай бұрын
@@anaihilatorLove literally started his first year last season at 25 years old. Y’all get on this app and say anything
@user-ib8om6kz8g
@user-ib8om6kz8g Ай бұрын
Atlanta should of never given him all that guaranteed money
@JAYSMITH-eh7ep
@JAYSMITH-eh7ep Ай бұрын
2yrs of guaranteed money is really not that much by qb standards. When was the last time cousins played a whole season?
@tarikmcdaniels7386
@tarikmcdaniels7386 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂This is funny to me. I'm a Washington fan, and I remember drafting Kirk and thinking, wtf! Why!
@whitewindbluehand
@whitewindbluehand Ай бұрын
100%. Bill dodged a mess. He also ROCKED on McAfee.
@QloudMedia
@QloudMedia Ай бұрын
"..Even if it works it was the wrong decision”
@brianwhite1087
@brianwhite1087 Ай бұрын
If you just gave me $100 mill and I'm on my last year's of my career I wouldn't have not 1 problem at all
@christianrapper5
@christianrapper5 Ай бұрын
Yes you would. He could have signed somewhere else it the Falcons wanted to draft a quarterback in the first round.
@brianwhite1087
@brianwhite1087 Ай бұрын
@@christianrapper5 you sound stupid
Ай бұрын
Atlanta is the new Phoenix Cardinals...
@Smartriide
@Smartriide Ай бұрын
The defensive statistics from last year aren’t trash , the Falcons are looking towards the future, we’re not going to be picking that high again with Kirk losing in the first round of the playoffs.
@JasonInTampa
@JasonInTampa Ай бұрын
Why are yall caring for Kirk Cousins?? What has he done? 1 playoff win in 12 seasons! Don't let Kirk Cousins contract distract you from the fact that he's a mediocre QB! Raheem and Terry paid 100M to guarantee they have 2 years on the job.
@truthbearer7891
@truthbearer7891 Ай бұрын
Stephen from Django unchained energy from these two. They would never have that same empathy for a Russell Wilson or Cam Newton being supplanted. Poor Kirk Cousins even though he’s one of the highest paid players in NFL history. No player has ever made so much money for so little postseason return with so little media scrutiny on national level than Kirk Cousins. Zero chance that happens if he was of another demographic
@lonniethomas4343
@lonniethomas4343 Ай бұрын
Cousins is laughing all the way to the bank. He'll get over it. His job is to win games and that's it.
@christianrapper5
@christianrapper5 Ай бұрын
You can’t win games if your team does asinine moves on draft day. Cousins can’t play defense or rush the quarterback. The Falcons needed a pash rusher but got a quarterback.
@Mjsnananbbsie737
@Mjsnananbbsie737 Ай бұрын
If I'm Raheem Morris I ain't getting fired because I put all my faith in Kirk Cousins ya'll crazy I don't care how much we paid bro, Penix ball out you will be making 50 mill on the bench and I won't feel sad at all, I'll be the coach telling reporters Kirk and his wife have been remodeling the house and everything, he's doing great 🤣
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats Ай бұрын
You will get fired for wasting the owners money.
@ericw23
@ericw23 Ай бұрын
We don’t owe him 😂. I’m so happy we got Penix 0:25
@Benajames79
@Benajames79 Ай бұрын
Michael I didn't know you were on here. I love your commentary! Definitely subbing ✊🏾
@mr.j.2822
@mr.j.2822 Ай бұрын
If Kirk Cousins was Jamar Cousins, folks would be calling this dirty lol
@thecozysleeper477
@thecozysleeper477 Ай бұрын
Jamar Cousins 🤔.....😂😂😂
@mr.j.2822
@mr.j.2822 Ай бұрын
@@thecozysleeper477😂😂😂
@iceman463864
@iceman463864 Ай бұрын
If Kirk cousins was Jamar cousins he wouldn’t get that contract, he’d get the geno smith deal. Falcons could have had Lamar Jackson for an extra 1st and chose to pay kirk. They literally drafting white qbs because they “ come from great families” “ are winners” ( JJ Mcarthy). This isn’t dirty at all Kirk is the most overrated qb. He’s 36 coming off torn Achilles acting like he has Brady legacy. Bro got paid shut up and ball
@agendaxpushers1322
@agendaxpushers1322 Ай бұрын
No Black QB is playing until they are 36 nor are they getting a contract like that to be mediocre Kirk you race baiting nincompoop
@mr.j.2822
@mr.j.2822 Ай бұрын
@@iceman463864 you make a good point but that’s not what I’m arguing. You point is valid though
@BNA_Est.1988
@BNA_Est.1988 Ай бұрын
Kirk got RG3’d lol
@michaeljohnson7945
@michaeljohnson7945 Ай бұрын
It's more like Kirk Cousins is in the Chris Chandler role where the Falcons use a high draft pick on another quarterback to groom in a succession plan.
@macarthurh
@macarthurh Ай бұрын
Y’all sound crazy who picks a CB in the top 10 of the first round?😂😂😂😂 with all these talented QB’s …
@rozzey1321
@rozzey1321 Ай бұрын
Probably the same team that pays a qb 100 mill and drafts a qb. So they don’t sound too crazy.
@truthbearer7891
@truthbearer7891 Ай бұрын
@@rozzey1321You think a defensive player is worth more than a top 10 QB you are not that bright. Would the Falcons have been better off taking Calais Campbell over Matt Ryan in 2008 draft?
@rozzey1321
@rozzey1321 Ай бұрын
@@truthbearer7891 not when you have defensive needs and you sign a qb to 100 million a month before. If your team needs a top 10 qb that’s when you get them. drafting a qb and signing a guy to 100 mill guaranteed is not too bright. A top 10 offense with no defense is not too bright. Also drafting the oldest and most injured dude coming from college is not too bright. calling names is not going to make this dumb pick look any better bro.
@TT-dv9er
@TT-dv9er Ай бұрын
That makes no sense. We are more concerned about how it happened rather than what the Falcons actually wanted as an organization. Winning a Superbowl isn’t good enough. How is this even a show?
@7damon8ietheredge54
@7damon8ietheredge54 Ай бұрын
this makes no sense at all, are we winning now or in the future in 4 yrs, they need help now defensively
@Dustyphoto915
@Dustyphoto915 Ай бұрын
You aren’t winning at all. Let go of the notion that the Falcons were Kirk Cousins and one defensive player from winning it all.
@VerbalDecuir33
@VerbalDecuir33 Ай бұрын
@@Dustyphoto915They don't want to hear that man. Lol. They just want to cry because the Falcons didn't do what THEY wanted them to do. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@khalfani321
@khalfani321 Ай бұрын
Are they taking Falcons full draft next season??? I wonder if the hammer that may be coming down had something to do with this??
@nathancaraballo7600
@nathancaraballo7600 Ай бұрын
Kirk wants to win a Super Bowl and Atlanta just wants to be a a top half team. They obviously aren’t on the same page
@josephbrandon9996
@josephbrandon9996 Ай бұрын
I really don't think that Kurt Kuzins is upset,Kurt knows that he messed up at his interview about meeting with a falcons staff member. So I find it hard to believe that when the falcons staff flew to Seattle for a 45min workout weeks before the draft and Kurt's camp didn't know about this.
@CCTH2221-lp2zj
@CCTH2221-lp2zj Ай бұрын
What they did isn’t the problem. How they did it is. As a ticket holder, I’ll be front and center for this next year. Hopefully it works out. Any negative fall out, Fontenot will be catching the A-train express🏈
@Tommy_Gibbs_II
@Tommy_Gibbs_II Ай бұрын
Basically Kirk is out the door after 2025 and could end up on the bench before that
@christianrapper5
@christianrapper5 Ай бұрын
Then they shouldn’t have signed Cousins.
@wallacesmith7852
@wallacesmith7852 Ай бұрын
But the first defensive player didn’t come off the board until pick 15 so there was 14 other teams that didn’t draft a defensive player.
@wallacesmith7852
@wallacesmith7852 Ай бұрын
But ain’t yall are the same ones that said the Falcons should have drafted Fields to sit behind Matt for 2 years and instead they drafted Pitts.
@Stinkinbadgez
@Stinkinbadgez Ай бұрын
So Kirk has to share that 100 million with MP, I would be mad too. WHAT? He doesn't? Then what the F is his problem?
@The_Dark_Skywalker
@The_Dark_Skywalker Ай бұрын
Didn't kno the Saints played in the NFC West 😂
@josephbrandon9996
@josephbrandon9996 Ай бұрын
Anyone ever thought that maybe the Falcons were doing damage controll do to the tampering charges
Ай бұрын
How do all y’all Sports Gurus not remember that Kirk Cousins was picked right after RG3 on that Washington team.
@tonyvang2930
@tonyvang2930 Ай бұрын
I guess no one doesn’t understands why the packers got away with this sooo many times.
@wallacesmith7852
@wallacesmith7852 Ай бұрын
And y’all have to realize that they all didn’t go out to Washington and work out Penix for nothing and this should have told ppl that this was a possibility to draft.
@hondasrdbest9614
@hondasrdbest9614 Ай бұрын
2 black men hatin on 1 black man trying to feed his family.
@wallacesmith7852
@wallacesmith7852 Ай бұрын
And Kirk shouldn’t have no problem with it bc when he was drafted with the 4th pick behind RG3 with the first pick in Washington.
@wallacesmith7852
@wallacesmith7852 Ай бұрын
And why is Penix age is problem when QBs are playing longer with the new rules favoring the offense.
@wallacesmith7852
@wallacesmith7852 Ай бұрын
And y’all just seen a organization throw away $85M on a player and pay for his services to play with another team just bc the HC wanted him gone and yall here complaining about a $100M guaranteed that is nothing to them anymore.
@jarvisjohnson5553
@jarvisjohnson5553 Ай бұрын
These guys so stupid I can’t wait to see what happen this season if cousins not healthy and declining .
@joeschmoe5231
@joeschmoe5231 Ай бұрын
It actually makes sense now that I hear them explain the QB draft pick thing🤔
@yuhbtw
@yuhbtw Ай бұрын
No it doesn’t he is just a salesman
@northphillyp
@northphillyp Ай бұрын
@@yuhbtw If they wont pick this high again why not?..your starter is Cousins,,you trust that guy?
@kaekae1782
@kaekae1782 Ай бұрын
@@northphillypif you didn’t trust him you wouldn’t pay him the money. You would just pay a middle of the road qb in then draft a QB in the draft. Penix was already guaranteed to be on the board at #8 if that’s who they wanted.
@northphillyp
@northphillyp Ай бұрын
@@kaekae1782 I think the plan changed at that moment..you need a backup anyway..we did the same thing and got the same blowback when we drafted Jalen.it'll make sense later
@kaekae1782
@kaekae1782 Ай бұрын
@@northphillyp not everyone is Jalen Hurts. Even if Penix turns out to be great the move still doesn’t make sense. Sometimes you gotta ride with the decisions you make,
@josephbrandon9996
@josephbrandon9996 Ай бұрын
Atlanta Falcons has a owner that's in his 80,s he doesn't have a whole lot of time,so I think Mr Blank was down with the decisions. There is noo way in the south that these guys made a 100million deal without the go ahead from up top.
@FeloniousBalony
@FeloniousBalony Ай бұрын
There wasn't an issue when cousins was drafted after rg3 ...🤔 what's the difference here..I'll wait
@luddman77
@luddman77 Ай бұрын
I was just about to bring up that situation. I lived through it as a redskins fan. SMH!!!!
@GSB_KD
@GSB_KD Ай бұрын
Exactly! I’m a saints fan and everyone shitting on the pick but it’s better to be a year early than late. I don’t mind it at all especially if your grades for defense there isn’t a big drop off. Also what morris said really does make sense. Plus he has time he’s not on hot seat so if he’s gonna do that he’s gonna do it rn
@7damon8ietheredge54
@7damon8ietheredge54 Ай бұрын
Kirk wasn't drafted in the first round as rg3 was in that draft, 2nd rg3 wasn't getting paid 180 with 100 million guaranteed either, 3rd they defense needs help bad. 4th you can find a quarterback without using the 8th pick. need I continue
@luddman77
@luddman77 Ай бұрын
@@7damon8ietheredge54 it’s the controversy and the fact Kirk has to look over his shoulders like RG3 did. All that other stuff doesn’t matter.
@comedianking83
@comedianking83 Ай бұрын
​@luddman77 that's not what was asked. He gave you the answer and you disregarded it. This situation isn't even close to the Washington situation just because the same person is involved
@wallacesmith7852
@wallacesmith7852 Ай бұрын
Terry was GM that didn’t have a successor plan when they got rid of Matt and he made sure that it didn’t happen to him the 2nd time around and draft a QB that they like and I don’t think they did Kirk wrong now if they would have moved up to draft Penix then it would have been a problem but Penix fell to them with their 8th pick and they wasn’t going to be able to get him with their 2nd pick.
@iamOTHER44
@iamOTHER44 Ай бұрын
I get not letting the public in on the plan so that someone else won’t draft Penix before you do, but why not let Cousins know? Letting him know minutes before lets me know how well this “plan” was actually thought through
@antoniojames9493
@antoniojames9493 Ай бұрын
Because Kirk and his camp got loose lips😆 The Falcons might lose a pick because of Kirk telling everyone he was tampering
@MajorBorris
@MajorBorris Ай бұрын
Because Kirk cousins has a big mouth and will tell the whole world, why do you think the falcons are being investigated for tampering?
@fantilldeath528trajectory
@fantilldeath528trajectory Ай бұрын
Did dirty? he got over payed! He can go play football and take us to a playoff(s) is what he can do. And let the coach and general manager worry about there job. The more I think about it the more I’m starting to expect this could go well for the Falcons
@daviddidder3781
@daviddidder3781 Ай бұрын
Well, they are dirty birds! 😂😂😂 penix pick wasn’t wrong, signing Kirko was the mistake. Should have signed free agents on defense that would help a rookie QB!
@layziebdub
@layziebdub Ай бұрын
How exactly is Penix a developmental QB? He’s being called one of the most talented and NFL ready QBs
@anaihilator
@anaihilator Ай бұрын
Exactly. People keep mentioning Mahomes and JLove but they were like 20 when they got drafted and no one expected them to start day one. Penix is 24 and pro ready. And thats just piss poor draft analysis if the GM was shocked Penix was still available at 8. Everyone and their grandma has known for months the first 3 picks would be QBs ans Penix was never mentioned for that group. You knew 4,5 and 7 were not gonna pick QBs. The only wildcard was the Giants at 6 or if MN moved up. But even still all the talk was MN wanted Maye or JJ and how likely was it that NY was gonna draft a 24 yr old pro ready QB when they still have Jones under a big contract? It was like a 70 percent chance Penix would be there at 8.
@truthbearer7891
@truthbearer7891 Ай бұрын
Self hatred among those two. Same reason they have all this empathy for Cousins but no issue with Russell Wilson having to compete for his NFL career. Their worse nightmare is Russ being in the league as a starter longer than Cousins, because man will they look foolish then.
@michaeljohnson7945
@michaeljohnson7945 Ай бұрын
1.) A veteran, above-average starting quarterback who has played at an occasional Pro Bowl level is going to cost $45 million per year in today's NFL. There is a major difference between having Kirk Cousins as a team's starting quarterback vs. having spare parts such as Desmond Ridder, Taylor Heinicke and Marcus Mariota as the starting quarterback. 2.) Cousins' deal will pay out all the guaranteed money in two years when he will be 38. 3.) Cousins will be 36 years old and is coming off an Achilles injury at the start of the 2024 season. If Cousins was a decade younger, it would not have made sense to draft Michael Penix. 4.) Signing Cousins will allow Atlanta to be competitive now while giving the Falcons time to develop Penix for the NFL game. Penix is not brought in to be a permanent backup but to be Cousins' eventual successor. Meanwhile, having Cousins may lead to Kyle Pitts, Drake London and Bijan Robinson having an accelerated development to where they are closer to finished products when Penix does become the starter. 5.) Free agency occurs more than a month before the NFL draft. When Cousins was available, the Falcons had Ridder, Heinicke and Mariota (backup quarterbacks at best) and knew they needed to upgrade the position. The Falcons already started a young player who wasn't ready at quarterback (Ridder), and picking another one at No. 8 would have put them back in the same position.
@brob8204
@brob8204 Ай бұрын
Nice analysis. I think 4 is the strongest point.
@jamesedwards7946
@jamesedwards7946 Ай бұрын
You give Kirk money to win now, its shows commitment to win, money isn't an issue
@derekjwilliams007
@derekjwilliams007 Ай бұрын
They don't understand the sport. If you can win 2 3 4 or 5 years at your best level. Who cares at what age. Yall just want to draft a 20 yr old and hold him for 10yrs it just doesn't work out like that often guys
@maya_coqsalonga
@maya_coqsalonga Ай бұрын
The QB's coming out for the 2025 draft, to name a few. Quin Ewers, Shady Sanders, Jalen Milroe, Carson Beck... Then in '26 you might have a Manning and if not I guarantee there will be others available.
@CarbinKid
@CarbinKid Ай бұрын
Kirk has won one f*cking playoff game!!!!!!!!! Penix wasn't supposed to be there. He was...Got get him.
@joshuafootman1593
@joshuafootman1593 Ай бұрын
Naw that's a terrible take. You don't use a top 10 pick to sit for 4 years after giving a guy GUARANTEED MONEY
@Enygma_Inc
@Enygma_Inc Ай бұрын
Holly with the living colour shirt respect
@KevinJonessuprq87
@KevinJonessuprq87 Ай бұрын
When you can get a future franchise QB on today's rookie contract, do it no matter who your QB is. They get hurt. Kirk's a big boy; he'll play through it. They need to look out for the team.
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats Ай бұрын
The rookie contract doesn't matter if you have a QB on the roster already that takes up about 20% of the cap with his contract.
@KevinJonessuprq87
@KevinJonessuprq87 Ай бұрын
@@LionelLordOfTheThundercats Isn't somebody going to get the 1st round money? Or do you give the first round pick away to stay under the cap? They're thinking future, like they said. They could also get a number of players/picks for him. It probably wasn't the optimal pick, but with the rookie contracts, teams aren't paying what they used to pay for first round QBs.
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats Ай бұрын
@@KevinJonessuprq87 Yes someone is going to get the first round money, the question is, is that someone going to help the team. Penix will not, he will be money wasted Imagine if your house needs a new roof but you bought a second car a month after buying a used Rolls Royce. No one is going to say you made a good decision, no matter how good your second car turn out because you just bought a Rolls Royce and ignored all your other responsibilities. Every dollar the team spends on luxury items comes from things we need. The other problem with this pick is that we give up the opportunity to get a top ten player at a different position of need. We could have gotten a probowl edge rusher and had four years of them on a rookie deal. A WR, CB, or DT, all of these are position we need now, and could have had a top ten player for 5 years on a rookie deal and they would be on the field now. The reason no team has ever done what we did, is because it is clearly wrong.
@hungdinh9292
@hungdinh9292 Ай бұрын
Lets not crown Jordan Love yet. He pnly did IT half of a year
@wallacesmith7852
@wallacesmith7852 Ай бұрын
But they had said that they were going to draft a QB in this draft.
@homelander8911
@homelander8911 Ай бұрын
So Pennix comes in and wins a SB and it would STILL be a bad trade? 🤡
@styner3
@styner3 Ай бұрын
Falcons Super Bowl 🤡
@isiomaagboli9731
@isiomaagboli9731 Ай бұрын
Not sure what the issue is, thought it was a great move.
@QuizGeorge
@QuizGeorge Ай бұрын
All clowns are mad because the A is getting to win now and when later. We going to win for the next decade and possible championship and that's all that matters don't matter how we got there.
@rowdytv
@rowdytv Ай бұрын
Great pick, if you don’t see it, it’s ok because we can show you better than we can tell you.
@skratchninja9685
@skratchninja9685 Ай бұрын
This move fosters the future, to bring in Kirk for mentorship purposes is super value for the upcoming study
@skratchninja9685
@skratchninja9685 Ай бұрын
It’s a fostering mentorship, move on that could merit credit…
@skratchninja9685
@skratchninja9685 Ай бұрын
Kirk is phasing into mentorship mode
@skratchninja9685
@skratchninja9685 Ай бұрын
Makes total sense
@skratchninja9685
@skratchninja9685 Ай бұрын
Contracts get deleted when value falls, fostering qb assignments/ perspective is a good lean
@skratchninja9685
@skratchninja9685 Ай бұрын
Look at the room for patty Mahomie pattern get by being under Alex Smith.. credit to Alex and Kirk, he is in foster mode by seeing how he raises his kids.. it’s natural.. no?
@Haddonfield63
@Haddonfield63 Ай бұрын
Everyone has the same talking points.
@TheOsfania
@TheOsfania Ай бұрын
Think about it. The guy whose team lost The Game drafted ahead of the guy whose team won.
@ikeapedia
@ikeapedia Ай бұрын
Can Kirk practice yet?
@edwardrussell9911
@edwardrussell9911 Ай бұрын
So What Defensive Player In The Draft Was Gonna Change ATL Defense 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️
@TT-dv9er
@TT-dv9er Ай бұрын
Kirk can’t even do OTAs and is a maybe for training camp.
@MilVet313
@MilVet313 Ай бұрын
Pass Def we were ranked 17th mid Tier Def and Overall Def we were ranked 9th so top 10 we were not Trash at Def and we lost a top tier DL in Grady the drafting a DE at 8th wouldn’t of bumped us up much comon now adding Penix Jr. Secures our QB of the future and Kirk knows he’s a starter and god for bid he goes down we have Penix as a Backup contract is a 2yr Contract and he retires as a falcon or sits back as a backup after 2 and watches MP9 take us to playoffs and hopefully SBs
@MilVet313
@MilVet313 Ай бұрын
And let’s add we addressed the Def in rds 2-3 and got one of the top DEs in the draft in Trice don’t let that fool you he’s up there
@isagoes6156
@isagoes6156 Ай бұрын
You don't know if he will re injure his leg again, now do y'all?
@n.c.40g41
@n.c.40g41 Ай бұрын
You sign Cousins for 2 years and give Penix time to develop, they don't want to be Pittsburgh, New England, and the Colts etc. You need a QB to be good in the NFL. P.S. who cares what Cousins thinks he has won 1 playoff game in his WELL PAID CAREER. GET OVER IT, and He probably gets another 100 million from another sucker in two years 😅
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats Ай бұрын
You sign Cousins and that will cost you 100M worth of free agents. If you don't believe he can win you a SB, you don't sign him. If you think he can't win you playoff games, than you don't give him 100M. The problem is that you are wasting money, and the NFL has a salary cap. The bill is coming on everyone, Pitts, London, and Bijan. And all three will need to be paid by the time Penix gets to start. We don't have a single defensive player under contract past 2026, we didn't draft any players this draft that profile out to be probowl level players. We have build an average team with a ton of holes, but we will be spending 60M a year on QBs for the next two season, at least.
@tadah21
@tadah21 Ай бұрын
Terrible takes how soon we forget Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers had patrick mahomes and jordan love sit for 1-3 years respectively
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats Ай бұрын
How soon you forget that Alex Smith wasn't the KC franchise QB, he was a bridge QB that made a very manageable salary. As for Rodgers, drafting Love cost GB two super bowl runs. If they would have drafted T, Higgins instead of Love they may have won another championship. You can either go all in on the present or go all in on the future, you can't do both.
@brob8204
@brob8204 Ай бұрын
The Falcons scouted a player they wanted. They had insight that the player would be gone by #13 of the 1st round. They could not afford to wait. What's the issue?
@christianrapper5
@christianrapper5 Ай бұрын
The issue is that they paid $100 million for Cousins. When you pay that much for a quarterback you have to build through the draft.
@thomasspringfield
@thomasspringfield Ай бұрын
falcons certainly need help defensively but all the way trash? they were 11th overall on defense last season.....
@ThinkTankIllustration
@ThinkTankIllustration Ай бұрын
And how can you do a person dirty that you just gave $100 million for two years he should take that money and shut up. And if they make it to the Super Bowl and win with Michael Penix, it would be all worth it.
@chuckchillout618
@chuckchillout618 Ай бұрын
Not really..
@Thedog9
@Thedog9 Ай бұрын
I don’t see Kirk leading the falcons to a superbowl. His contract is going to be mid by the time the season starts so that isn’t too big of a worry either. It’s better to take the QB than to be the Seattle Seahawks stuck with geno Smith
@derekjwilliams007
@derekjwilliams007 Ай бұрын
1 you have to secure a qb you can win with. 2 if you can find one that you can build on and improve with....take him duh
@styner3
@styner3 Ай бұрын
What’s wrong with your logic is if Cousins plays well you don’t need Penix, if he doesn’t and Falcons suck then pick a top qb then. They went all in on Kirk 100 million go get some defensive player with the #8 pick
@derekjwilliams007
@derekjwilliams007 Ай бұрын
@styner3 what's wrong with your logic is thinking some defensive player will win you more game than a legit starting qb
@derekjwilliams007
@derekjwilliams007 Ай бұрын
@styner3 what if kirk doest work out or the defensive player
@stevethomas2022
@stevethomas2022 Ай бұрын
Every team needs a Quality back up at QB, Kirk cousins got paid, so they don’t owe him any loyalty they paid them.
@chadalexander292
@chadalexander292 Ай бұрын
so what if hurt Achilles Kirk, go down in the second game What should the falcons do.. Cousins hurt.
@tyronealbert889
@tyronealbert889 Ай бұрын
Cousins never played a full season #injuryprone...... why all the Pennix hate? Really?????
@styner3
@styner3 Ай бұрын
Penix has had four season ending injuries at 23. He’s only going to have more in the pros
@prapra15777
@prapra15777 Ай бұрын
​@@styner3 you don't know that. The last 2 seasons he was healthy. I can partly agree with you
@jamesedwards7946
@jamesedwards7946 Ай бұрын
Put the pipe down, having the best QB and best backup QB in the south is a good thing, Kirk better win a chip or he can take his ass back to Minnesota, yhe falcons can save 32 million if we release kirk by June 1, 26
@alfredbaxter1061
@alfredbaxter1061 Ай бұрын
we don't want him back in minnesota
@jamesedwards7946
@jamesedwards7946 Ай бұрын
@@alfredbaxter1061 rise up or kick rocks, change your diaper and take a nap, either support the team or find another, c😂😂😂😂😂😂 childish bs 😂😂😂😂 and who the fuck is we pale face
@liefyaple8927
@liefyaple8927 Ай бұрын
Falcons fan here. They did do him dirty don’t listen to all these homers with their heads up their asses. Fans like them allow this dumpster franchise to continue to suck. FREE THE FALCONS SELL THE TEAM
@derekjwilliams007
@derekjwilliams007 Ай бұрын
Great pick
@jamarworthy4065
@jamarworthy4065 Ай бұрын
Top 11 defense bro know yur stuff
@vivahernando1
@vivahernando1 Ай бұрын
If he plays well he has nothing to worry about but Kirk is terrible in big games and everyone knows it so Penix will play by 2026
@dirtycosby9437
@dirtycosby9437 Ай бұрын
These guys have some much mis information. I get the point they’re making but half the stuff they said ask facts were false or made it obvious they don’t know football. Not even talking about the Penix pick they said 5-6 things that were completely false or something that were just guessing and saying as facts.
@freddiekellyjr2952
@freddiekellyjr2952 Ай бұрын
Your credibility was lost once you admitted there is no outcome that could justify this decision. I’m not the biggest fan of the decision but you are all in your feelings right now. I thought you were the nuance guys. Y’all sound like everyone else 🤦🏾‍♂️
@user-ib8om6kz8g
@user-ib8om6kz8g Ай бұрын
Did him dirty he barely during his time and Washington only went to the playoffs like what 5 times he trash he only getting guaranteed money cause he YT they looking out for him. His first playoff was when RG3 got injured in the playoffs and kirk lost. His 2nd they lost both wild card games in Washington. Minnesota years he lost two wild card games and only won 1 divisional game he is 1-5 dude trash leader, he plays the most important position and wasn't that good of a leader. And he has had better talent then some QBs
@bluemarvel6750
@bluemarvel6750 Ай бұрын
Penix is a developmental QB????
@TLien
@TLien Ай бұрын
The draft is Not 1 round... our defense has improved and will continue to with Rah... nm, nighas play madden and errbody a gm now... Develop your young studs more with Kirk, and that's the price.. two tears in a 🪣
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats
@LionelLordOfTheThundercats Ай бұрын
We still have the worst pass rush in the league. We didn't draft a single player that profiles out to improve our pass rush.
@TLien
@TLien Ай бұрын
@@LionelLordOfTheThundercats Ok
@jamesedwards7946
@jamesedwards7946 Ай бұрын
That was funny, say something else stupid 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ThinkTankIllustration
@ThinkTankIllustration Ай бұрын
There were teams looking to move up to 10 and nine even eight to get Michael Penix
@supahsean6710
@supahsean6710 Ай бұрын
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