Atlas Shrugged Part 2 Clip: Hank Meets the Wet Nurse

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Atlas Shrugged Part 2 Clip: Hank Meets the Wet Nurse

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@Chesstater 12 жыл бұрын

" Try pouring a ton of steel without rigid principles "

@jrcasselman 2 жыл бұрын

This is often the case when a bunch of newbies come in and try to overturn the work done by those before them. They have no idea how much work goes into starting a new business.

@alexal4 3 жыл бұрын

Just finished the book. One of the greatest books ever written and it feels like it was written yesterday, not in 1957.

@ynkybomber 4 жыл бұрын

They spend the first 15 chapters trying to destroy the business and now they demand to take delivery from the business. Typical Damn Rand was a genius

@xtop23 11 жыл бұрын

I certainly don't view Rand as a god, but I do see her views on markets and government as intelligent, well thought out, and ultimately ...... obvious and self-evident. She shouldn't be viewed as dogmatic perfection, but as a resource for learning the interaction between people and government, I find her work invaluable.

@noneyabusiness2237 Жыл бұрын

Two things. First, the left, communist, socialist, Woke, democrat attacks her with Ad Hominem fallacies. The source is irrelevant, only the objective reality matters. Second, the predatory greed rapist republicans say "I am a fan of Rand" without even a SPECK of understanding that SHE DESPISED ALL CONSERVATIVES. People are super hasty and super shallow. She only wrote a small amount of Fiction, but wrote many more NON fiction books explaining how her philosophy works. The heart rending thing is, she never said, HERE is exactly the practical blueprint to get rid of the conservative parasites and the liberal parasites. If it were possible, Galt's Gulch would already exist. The reality is, democracy cannot work. Almost everyone is ignorant, fearful, conformist and with zero talent or value. Only a parasite culture works for them. What troubles me about Rand is the MYTH that life is a meritocracy. It very much is NOT. Rich people get that way through lies, corruption, evil. This fuels the fire for the socialists and communists, who only offer something much worse.

@Apistevist Жыл бұрын

If only you were right. I think the best case scenario for the Human species is our extinction.

@Weirdomanification 8 ай бұрын

@@ApistevistYou first

@Apistevist 8 ай бұрын

Still enjoying the game, thanks though. Our extinction is inevitable.@@Weirdomanification

@mralmnthwyfemnin5783 Жыл бұрын

Fiction is now becoming reality

@do123go 12 жыл бұрын

The full line is: "Run along, punk. Go and try to pour a ton of steel without rigid principles, on the expediency of the moment."

@jrcasselman 3 жыл бұрын

This is my rebuttal to punks and anarchists who think their alternative philosophy can turn thousands of years of human progress on its ear.

@jeromekerngarcia 12 жыл бұрын

Hank started out in the mines but did not stay there. He was brilliant and knew where he was going. He created the companies Rearden Coal, Rearden Limestone, Rearden Ore and Rearden Steel. Hank became a person who enjoyed fine things, but was totally capable of doing any job in his company. I think the new Hank portrays those qualities well, from what I've seen. He was a doer and that's who Dagny fell in love with. Dagny would not fall in love with an effete.

@noneyabusiness2237 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the lie and myth is meritocracy. It never has, and never will, exist.

@HondaATC 12 жыл бұрын

This does look an awful lot better than part 1. Love the dialog exchange by Hank....good stuff. Looking forward to seeing this in the theater.

@jeremy8080 12 жыл бұрын

Finally a movie I'm excited for.

@aligrandi13 12 жыл бұрын

I'm from Italy, i readed the book... i'd like so much all Italians to read this book, maybe they will understand what we really need. Ayn Rand was a visionaire, all how and what she wrotted is exactly the actual situation here, now, in Italy. What amaising book, what amaising film!! ♥ This video is GREAT!!!!! I adore the actors and their voices, all is like in the book!!! ♥

@vegasrenie 12 жыл бұрын

Great answer! I agree - reading the book and learning about Hank Reardon's past makes this actor more in keeping with what you'd expect from such a background. Other than the trappings of wealth, I always got the impression that Hank Reardon was spectacularly intelligent, and a little rough around the edges.

@SaulOhio 11 жыл бұрын

I don't accept a dictator at work. If I do not like my employer, I am free to leave. How do you "democratize the market"? By imposing all sorts of government laws and regulations? That does sound to me like fascism or communism.

@Ephisus 12 жыл бұрын

In Rand's book, she suggests that glamour without the celebration of purpose lacks desirability, and that glamour as a celebration of purpose is glamour in it's proper light- I.e. the jewelry made from the first pour of rearden metal.

@TychoSTO 12 жыл бұрын

Sweet. So excited for the film. New Hank is great, as well as the Wet Nurse.

@marsincognito 12 жыл бұрын

YES. Love this scene. Can't wait to see the film!

@TaylorTheDeveloper 12 жыл бұрын

I really hope opening night went well for the film, I'm excited to see it when it gets on dvd!

@ThePatriotinTexas 11 жыл бұрын

Reardon thinks for himself. The Wet Nurse thinks on the basis of the rules he's given to follow.

@kraorh 12 жыл бұрын

Short answer: They didn't have much of a choice. The original actors weren't contracted for future films, because Part I didn't have the funding for that, and because they weren't even sure they'd have enough money to make Part II & III. By the time Part II was underway, so much of the original cast was already on other projects that it made more sense to just start from scratch. There are also some rumors that they want a new cast for III - as a stylistic choice.

@xtop23 11 жыл бұрын

As far as the importance of having an agile mind is concerned, one that is open to different interpretations or perspectives, we agree. That is essential to fostering spirited debate where truths can be discovered.

@chippledon1 4 жыл бұрын

Telling the "deep state" where to go !! LOVE IT!!!

@TheBrewerChannel 12 жыл бұрын

Part II looks AWESOME! Lightyears better than Part I in every regard, script, acting, cinematography, etc.etc. .... can't wait! Do Ayn Rand proud!!!! It's time WE ALL "decide which side" we are on .... Producer or Looter!!!!!

@jimmerhardy 12 жыл бұрын

looks, sounds good. can't wait for it's release. part II: into the gulch we go...

@ANProductionsOfficialChannel 7 жыл бұрын

I don't get why the DVD's and Blu-Rays for this film copped it to 1.78:1. when it was shot in 2.35:1.

@tuxguys 12 жыл бұрын

Well done. I now think that I don't care about the cast changes. Looking forward to seeing this, and I LOOOOOOOVE the timing of its release! ("2016" has become the second highest-grossing documentary of all time, to the surprise of many, and I would love it if this film became the same sort of surprise success, for the same reasons, in this election season...)

@deesandiego 12 жыл бұрын

I just hope we dont have to wait years for Part 3. Part 2 looks Great

@singaporeghostclub 3 жыл бұрын

I’m only at page 400 and Rearden is such a badass!

@shooterqqqq 11 жыл бұрын

Anyone who doesn't see the logic to Hank Reardon's argument has never worked in a true manufacturing factory. They also have never seen the government take what they want for their own use and power.

@basspig 12 жыл бұрын

Well-stated. That sums up my first impression of his demeanor as well. Prefer the old Hank, myself!

@legendre007 12 жыл бұрын

I loved the Wet Nurse in the book! Looking forward to the movie! :-D

@boohooboo 12 жыл бұрын

Please Italy.. whoever, lead the way. America needs an example, as we are wondering in the woods these days.

@Hiraghm 12 жыл бұрын

Get on the Atlas Shrugged website and tell them you want it in Canada!

@alphaharlot 12 жыл бұрын

So so excited....can't wait till the 12th. :)

@ThePatriotinTexas 11 жыл бұрын

Yes, read the book. The character is referred to as the Wet Nurse. He's in more than that one scene.

@paulgardner5079 3 жыл бұрын

he is actually one of the best written characters...he changes

@xtop23 11 жыл бұрын

cont. - That is the adult mindset. The nanny state assumes you are incapable of such decisions and therefore is obligated to act. Along the way, such insinuation results in ever increasing loss of freedom and ultimately domination. It is the very idea that freedom is a shades of grey concept that ultimately results in its loss.

@puppetsock 11 жыл бұрын

You don't seem serious. But if you are, there's another vid on here that answers that question. Title is Who is John Galt? [Atlas Shrugged Part 2] In the clip, JG was a guy who said he would stop the motor of the world.

@TheGrayChampion 12 жыл бұрын

Now watch this other one and tell me we aren't in the trouble that Atlas Shrugged illustrates. On You-Tube search this string: " Pat Caddell Says: Media "

@TheShooter1956 12 жыл бұрын

OUTSTANDING!

@pattondesign 12 жыл бұрын

Okay. That was pretty cool. Well worth the wait.

@RussKarlberg 4 ай бұрын

Oh what a shame! They left out one of the best scenes in the book, never showed what happened to the Wet Nurse...

@Hiraghm 12 жыл бұрын

I went to the first showing at 11:45 am on a friday... and the theater was full. Not packed, but full.

@boleroinferno 11 жыл бұрын

I understood his argument, and it has never been a serious one. ANY law you create has the potential to be harmful, but it also has the potential to be good. Some of the American Constitution was harmful, like the 3/5ths compromise. Nobody favors some mystical 'unrestrained democracy' because EVERYONE wants their own rights protected. We want democracy as a way of reciprocally protecting each other's rights and improving life. Your neighbors aren't out to get you. Criminals are firstly victims.

@xtop23 11 жыл бұрын

I have found people who tend to utilize advanced vocabulary and sentence structure in posts, usually do so with the intent to obfuscate a subject, not lend it clarity. A strong command of the English language can be used for good or ill depending on intent. Your statement, while true in many ways, is the method by which horribly unjust motives thrive and gain legitimacy.

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

Haha, that comment was awesome. Thanks past me--good job.

@albcwc 12 жыл бұрын

The one thing I've ever heard Milton Friedman say that I thought was a trifle unfair was when he accused Ayn Rand, although acknowledging her through her writing (he never met her) to be brilliant, of being rigid and demanding fealty from her followers. While that was undoubtedly true, Ayn, unlike Milton, was born in Russia and experienced the horrors of totalitarianism. Unsurprisingly, her sense of urgency in the pursuit of freedom was thereby heightened.

@MrMansson10 12 жыл бұрын

Me, I'm of the latter breed, as are many others who find reassurance & dare I say solace in Rand, her philosophy & heroes/heroines as confirmation that they aren't the ones in error.

@Evil0tto 9 жыл бұрын

This was the only decent movie of the three. The low budget really showed in the first, and the less said about that terrible last movie the better. Part 2 had a decent cast and a bit of money behind it.

@texjames2000 5 жыл бұрын

I agree, but they all made Dagny look like a hooker for hire to the man with the most power.

@texjames2000 5 жыл бұрын

@Mr Sheffner me too

@Delosian 5 жыл бұрын

@Mr Sheffner Agreed, Taylor Schilling is hot :)

@Cryptosifu 5 жыл бұрын

They were all good, IMO.

@haweater1555 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the first movie DVD from the "Previously Viewed" rack at the rental store. By the pristine state the disc was in, I believe that nobody had rented the disc. I was attracted to the movie because it is one of the very few pro-railroad movies. I thought the producers but in a very good effort for the limited budget they had (really liked the music). Movie # 2 was supplied by a friend who had access to torrent downloads, and after seeing it, thought it was not worth paying for a legitimate copy. Movie # 3 I saw the whole thing on KZfaq, and after seeing it, thought it not worth bothering downloading even an illegitimate version to see again.

@xtop23 11 жыл бұрын

No I wasn't aware that Hayek had produced psychology work but it doesn't surprise me. I agree that economics is a social science. I also agree that mathematics can be useful when plotting projections or trends in the realm of finance. The problem is that mathematics are a rigid discipline that, by the more adept practitioners, can be warped to yield any result required. It is a tool not an oracle. Psychology is > mathematics where economics is concerned.

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

I asked you what avenue you would like to go down...I have to know that before we can start the discussion. In the second comment, I mentioned a particular fallacy we could consider (i.e. relate it to the body of work in general) while in the first I asked what particular area of her work you'd like to use in order to expose the fallacies located at the core...you didn't really ask anything, you just implied you'd like to have a discussion.

@thechinadesk 12 жыл бұрын

You're probably right about the logistical problems. It happens a lot in the film industry. People can't wait around forever for a project to start up. Personally the cast changes don't bother me. As long as they deliver their lines reasonably well, by keeping them from sounding too much like speeches, they'll be just fine.

@MrMansson10 12 жыл бұрын

The ending to part one was powerful to sa the least.

@kraorh 12 жыл бұрын

Since they had to compress Part II's events into a 2 hour movie, they probably had to fast-forward that aspect of his character development.

@mrrobotica 12 жыл бұрын

This is just an observation, but this portrayal of the Wet Nurse seems to be more in line with his portrayal in Atlas Shrugged closer to half way through his story line. During his first appearances in the book, he was a smug, cynical brat but in this scene, he already seems somewhat idealistic and sympathetic

@emmanuelagudo4918 4 жыл бұрын

'without rigid principles.'

@elessal 11 жыл бұрын

didn´t you pay attention to ragnar? we pay services and protection from inside and outside of our countryes. you give money, you receive goods and services. ayn rand says that clearly. do you think that when we pay our taxes the goverment is good with us and give us charity? they give to us what we pay for.

@treizTUBE 12 жыл бұрын

Can't wait!

@brerrabbit77 12 жыл бұрын

Are you sure this is the wet nurse? In the book, it was not the wet nurse who came to find out why Rearden would not sell the metal to the State Science Institute. Also, it looks to me like the Rearden in Part 2 is not the same actor that played him in Part 1.

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

3. Freedom doesn't have to be a 'shades of grey' concept. The principle is far from being grey. However, you cannot confuse the principle with how society or yourself manifest a definition of it. All generations live in a time of privileged understanding; privileged in that we have more history to look back upon. If you define 'privilege' as finally having the one true manifestation of an ideal principle--you don't understand what is (arguably) the most import lesson of history.

@xtop23 11 жыл бұрын

I agree that mathematics can be utilized to create models, that trend and project into the future possible outcomes, using historical data as a basis for extrapolation. Mathematics fails when events of import shift a given paradigm i.e. technological leaps ( the automobile / flight / the internet / space travel / weaponry ). The understanding of how people react in a given situation, when applied to great enough numbers, would more often yield correct predetermination.

@xtop23 11 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. I didn't actually find your posting that difficult to understand, It simply had the vibe of an intentional "high-browing". As far as your comment, "Randianism tends toward...", I always found Rand's work to be a bit of the "when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail" variety, to read. She tends to belabor points of interest here and there. I do however, agree with much of what she espouses where government and free markets are concerned.

@RakanManson 11 жыл бұрын

Actually, new paradigms are explained and used with new math. Mathematics is built upon former mathematics, and ultimately upon Logic and a few primitive concepts. By its very contruction, it cannot and does not fail.

@garyacker7388 3 жыл бұрын

A different actor playing Reardon? Where did I lose it 😕

@Ninjawithaphone 11 жыл бұрын

LMAO - nice titled - perfect fit. I just hope that Part III is better than part II. And tell the directors to BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL CAST FROM PART 1 PLEASE!!

@thomassaboy3467 12 жыл бұрын

I'M A LIFETIME JERSEY GUY. I'M NOT RASPY, GUTTERAL, BUT I DO HAVE "MOXIE". I AM SOPHISTICATED, EDUCATED (RUTGERS) AND MY WIFE OF 54 YEARS THINKS I DON'T LOOK ALL THAT BAD. WE IN NEW JOERSEY AREN'T ALL LIKE TONY SAPRANO OR SNOOKI.. GOODFELLAS WERE FROM NYC & LONG ISLAND NOT JOERSEY.! P.S. LOOKING FORWARD TO PART II.

@ianbrusso 11 жыл бұрын

I concur. When I read it, I couldn't help but compare Balph Eubank to John Steinbeck and all his garbage WE had to read in high school.

@TheGrayChampion 12 жыл бұрын

Two thumbs up!

@Pedro-kn6tv 12 жыл бұрын

There would be three movies? When it will be released? Im tottally out of news, nobody talks bout the book or the movie here in Brasil.

@1cont 4 жыл бұрын

Great dialogue for today's millennial trash.

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

4. (last) Actually, the mathematics doesn't fail. A model can describe the things you mentioned--the choice of what is the proper model to use is based on the 'social' area and not the mathematical science area of economics. Generalizations about this social area may yield models and even a narrowing of ideals can produce greater accuracy. But make no mistake, without the math economics is just as predictive as history or anthropology--perhaps useful but not a science in-itself.

@xtop23 11 жыл бұрын

You address one of my main gripes with her work..... it is extremely rare to find people with that singular a purpose in real life and even those, I'm sure, have much more to them than most perceive. Her main characters often lack depth. They pursue a goal of such overriding desire that it excludes all else. While I'm sure that does exist somewhat IRL, it detracts from the reading experience when characters aren't as well rounded as they could be.

@geekonomist Жыл бұрын

You use the word depth, when you mean the word vice. Some of her heroes have none of your "depth" , the others of heroes have a forgiveable few vices. They are shown to struggle all of their lives chapter after chapter , but in the end their frustrations are not what you want. You want failure, pain and death. Stop giving vice a dimension, and you will see that you can look out for virtues, and even aspire to them.

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

1. Many ways to conceptualize government other than 'use of force' or 'threat of force' and that is my point--not that force is absent from government or that systemic constraints are unnecessary and/or always serve their purpose. However, assuming a negative connotation of 'force' and ignoring the fact that modern government (supposedly) aims representational of multi faceted society at large (vs. set for individuals by individuals) constrains understanding of how the body systemically acts.

@d3fmetal 12 жыл бұрын

I agree that it doesn't match the way we saw Reardens office. I think even the office from the first movie was closer. I still don't picture this guy as Hank Readen.

@frthought 11 жыл бұрын

Wow...for a minute there I could have sworn that you were describing the current state of the Democratic party in the U.S. In spite of what may be considered shortcomings from an academic definition of "philosophy", the message is nevertheless loud and clear...tyranny, socialism, and communism are fundamentally bad, while freedom, liberty, and capitalism are fundamentally good. You obviously disagree, so, to what philosophy do you subscribe?

@ilikemitchhedberg 11 жыл бұрын

Your intuition was correct: i was just trolling. I am an angry frustrated unemployed young man who's sole consolation in life pissing people off behind the safety of my computer screen. Thank you for the reference to the 'who is john galt' video. I'm about half way through the book. This vid, "Peter Schiff: The Majority Doesn't Have A Right to Steal My Money. . ." sounds like its just out of the book. "we need to take $100K from one person and give $1K to 100 families." what a joke.

@FireheadLazzo 2 жыл бұрын

It's a good thing there were no bears in Galt's libertarian wonderland.

@adidell 2 жыл бұрын

The wet nurse: aka as most Millennials today

@xtop23 11 жыл бұрын

What mathematics are necessary to understand the theory that government is force and that entities built upon a foundation of force inevitably pursue goals that increase the ability to utilize said force? It is in areas such as this that her work is invaluable and useful to the reader in the understanding of interactions between the government and its citizenry. As far as econ goes, mathematics can only be somewhat effective when the underlying data is accurate and interpreted objectively.

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

2/(2 or 3) Even in physics, math can be used and abused. It isn't pure mathematics, it's applied mathematics. By this, it is difficult not to produce bias (such is even often foreshadowed in the models chosen before analysis even begins). Also, econometrics relies largely on historical data sets in order to produce said models--by this it can be largely post-hoc and even more prone to personal and/or cultural biases.

@gha23ify 11 жыл бұрын

Atlas Shrugged , for people to slow to understand Pynchon .

@ecogreenbob 12 жыл бұрын

Me too. I had been a bit disappointed by the casting of Hank Reardon in Partr 1. He just seemed too polished to have come up through the ore mines - and the rest of his background. This one seems more like what I envisioned him to be. And why would Dagney fall in love with this one? If you have to ask that question, you need to read the book again.

@MrMansson10 12 жыл бұрын

watching this clip, got me to thinking that those who find Ayn Rand, found not another rhetoric that may sound good on paper that one accepts because it appeals to one's emotionalism, but instead have found a spokesperson for how they are within themselves. There are two kinds of ppl, those who are naturally altruists/collectivist & those who are by nature egoists/individualists...cont

@boleroinferno 11 жыл бұрын

There's firstly a distinction made between human rights and civil rights. Secondly, there's a distinction between civil rights and political or social rights. Human rights are things which are ensured because no sane person would ever deny them, e.g. food, water, health. In the modern time, freedom from slavery fits into this category Civil rights are things which codify the type of society in which we desire to live, as the American Constitution did Democracy is about the other rights

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

His papers in psych. were ahead of their time and are worth reading. No, psychology is not more useful than mathematics in understanding economics. In order to get a psych degree that counts as a BSc and not a BA, you have to take Statistics (and sometimes even higher math) and have a background in calculus. If you're relying more on social psychology than you are on econometric analysis--you're in the social part and not the science part of economics.

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

Well, would you like to stick to her novel's (i.e. Atlas Shrugged--which she stated is the best and most complete reference for her 'philosophy'), works concerting science and epistemology (Harriman's The Logical Leap is what turned me off of Rand, it was the official attempt to fill the regretful hole in OBJ concerning a phil of science; or OE not very fun to discuss), or her editorializing (which was great, she was extremely skilled in the rhetoric of that area--Anti-industrial Revolution etc)

@voxtemporis4503 2 жыл бұрын

The SSI could easily buy through a false front.

@whousa642 10 ай бұрын

you missed the point

@mikejurisic 11 жыл бұрын

Yes she did, after paying more in tax on her earnings than most people will make in their life. Where is the problem in collecting from a system you have already been forced to pay into?

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

Sorry, incorrect. It isn't new forms of mathematics that convey deeper understanding of economic issues; it's more deeply informed (or differently informed) social models of using mathematics and applying it to economic issues. New models are frequently developed, but it is astoundingly rare that an area of pure mathematics finds its way into applied use Pure mathematics isn't akin to logic and cannot be reduced to it. Also, economic models frequently fail--where were you these past 5 years? lol

@pbkitty22 12 жыл бұрын

Yes... yes... yes. I like the new Hank.

@Einsilverguy 12 жыл бұрын

you are kidding right? You do understand the fundamental premise of the move right?

@DRUM57IX 12 жыл бұрын

Alfalfa from the Little Rascals!!!

@teacherpaul13 12 жыл бұрын

We need this film in Taiwan?

@TheSRBgamer63 11 жыл бұрын

Can we expect 3rd part?...the end of 2nd part is lol i mean literally nothing has been finished there must be 3rd part am i right?

@gjc7993 12 жыл бұрын

cant wait

@hectortellez7776 3 жыл бұрын

Logic and reason 🇺🇸❤️

@mackshayster 11 жыл бұрын

These movies really weren't that bad. I came into it thinking it was gonna suck but the acting was good even without big name actors and the special effects and graphics were impressive for the budget, but I thought schilling was a much better dagny than mathis was

@xtop23 11 жыл бұрын

I'm fairly versed in economics, but I subscribe to the Austrian viewpoint rather than the Keynesian ( it isn't really, but that's who has received credit since Nixon's presidency / it's in reality a substantially bastardized form ). I'm less concerned with the mathematics than the underlying psychology involved when I state that I believe Rand is spot on ( with regard to markets and government ). Much of what I read in A.S. and The Fountainhead is happening in real time today.

@calronmoonflower 11 жыл бұрын

You misundertstood what Sanjay Tumati meant. He gave an example of the majority getting together and voting away the basic rights of a minority. That is unrestrained democracy. Also with big government corperation have more power to buy to cement their hold upon the people. Las Vagas requiring new limousine companies to show that they would not compete with existing companies or the government sanctioned monoploy that AT&T held under the Bell System are both examples.

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

Check out "The Sociology of the Ayn Rand Cult" by Murray Rothbard, easily googled. I didn't mind her novels so much--they're pulp but they're fairly entertaining. She (mis)labels her work as 'Romantic' in order to sidestep certain critiques of her work/ideology. If you put some personal effort into researching ARI, the cultish nature of the movement will blow your mind--try ariwatch[DOT]com. If you buy into anything it can be a source of positive feeling motivation, credit yourself, not Rand.

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

Breaking my rule (but I will answer). It isn't so much that the statement itself can be proven false (by the definition of 'oath' it sure is an oath), you'll have to be a little more specific--it's based on one of the principles Randianism pretends to...once again, the truth-value of this statement doesn't entail the consistency or actuality of Randianism, it isn't a formalized statement...we can discuss the merit of the principle if you wish (and tie it to the emotive appeal of Randianism).

@slybuster 11 жыл бұрын

Ahh, I missed this one...just as you probably missed a couple of my comments. Let's try to keep to a 1 comment per response maximum in order to make sure a proper discussion is taking place. Well, yeah--all of those things are true (in the sense you mean them to be true) but they don't entail the consistency of Randianism any moreso than evolution entails positive directionality.

@xtop23 11 жыл бұрын

cont. - To deny that, is to admit that you haven't yet taken a look at the world unclouded by preconception. My earlier postings were addressing the lack of thorough character development that detracts from the enjoyment in reading her novels. I must also admit that often the narrative is bogged down, exhaustive, and long winded. Her characters do tend to belabor a point. She is prone to hyperbole, but I credit this to her attempt at driving a point home.