Agreed, Quattro and Subies symmetrical awd are the best around.

iam a dumb guy when it comes to car. can you explain that? was is X mode? so you tell us the subaru was only 2wd not 4wd in this video?

@@Skylda all subarus with the exception of the brz are symmetrical all wheel drive. Symmetrical meaning all the axles are the same length

@@Skylda Subaru is full time AWD (4 wheels in motion)! X mode ,for example, is for getting out of a snowbank or descending (5 miles/h or 10km /h) a slippery road. Sorry for my writting english!

@@didierdelobel8663 so subaru with x mode is better to get out of snow or driving slow thorugh snow?

I have the exact same outback….it’s a fantastic piece of kit. It makes everything look easy and has a good turn of speed about it if needed.

Agreed! It's almost shockingly fast once we are at highway speeds. Plus, the paddle shifters are quite handy. We've relocated to North Carolina and I've switched to the new Michelin Climate 2s which handle the icy roads and snow when we get it just fine. I'm thinking of getting a summer set of Pilot Sport Cups on another set of OEM wheels. But it's performance and reliability over the last 5 years has been great. Other than the head unit which seems to be a problem across the board. Honestly, I'd be happy swapping this engine into an old GC8/6 with a simple STi 6-speed. But this engine deserves more respect. Felt much more responsive than the turbo option we test drove. I'm sure others would disagree with me but after 5 years, this engine just feels like it's broken in and actually pulls quite hard wide open. @@richardlove4287

@@MirisDesignStudio Wow, that's some history :D

Os Paladin yep, that Subaru dude is guru

@@gerrett108 useless in real conditions kzfaq.info/get/bejne/odyPqq58ltixYn0.html&ab_channel=SUVBattle

Well ive seen so many of these where both audis ,subarus, vw, toyotas, volvos and on and on perform superb or shit, so you have to take these tests with a pinch of salt.

Marco Kahelin Not here. I do these tests for fun and I don't care about the results. Most of tested cars are owned by private drivers, you can talk to them here. It is all fun and reality.

I mean on youtube, not your channel specificlly, i dont care wich car performs better or not, but i dont think rollers, even if they are a good way to show how well awd systems respond i dont think it simulates real world conditions. i live in sweden and ive seen my fair share of good systems fail and ofc it comes down to tires weight and so on. But i think it´s fun to see these tests. cheers

Marco Kahelin yeah, you are right it isn't a representation of real world situation, but it does show that if you are in a Subaru and only one tire has traction, you'll have a better chance getting unstuck.

Might very well be the case, cheers

Excellent choices. I hope to get a Subaru as my next car for long term ownership. Not sure which one yet, but leaning towards the XV (Crosstrek in UK).

Dilshan Fernando Thanks. Check my channel, there are many cars tested on rollers and new ones coming soon.

Oliver Lasch The Subaru was effortless

+Jaes Carroll

"i didn't thought" lol

Sameee

Its not the awd system that is different is just the differentials that turn the axles. The Subaru’s LSD (limited slip differential) is simply better than the audi’s if it even has an lsd.

That car is very feminine looking

@@issavibez394Subaru grew doing rally. I don’t know what’s feminine about it. All these cars are rally ready out of the factory. That’s not something for ladies

Only an idiot would brag about climbing steep snowy hills with bald tires.

3 points on the license for each tyre if below the legal limit.

That story only tells me you're a horrible and dangerous driver. Bald tires in the snow? That's dangerous for other drivers and you can't stop as well. I'm realizing from these comments how slow Subaru owners are.

Abe This is hobby channel, so I don't have easy access to cars... Besides new Subarus are no longer available with viscous coupling diff...

Ok, thanks. Yeah, I'm curious how the new ones compare to the old ones, and how the WRX/Sti compare to other subies. I like your videos though, so just keep doing them with whatever cars you can get.

can add it - lsd

Abe I do tests only on flat ground, it allows for comparison like this one. However rollers itself create kind of uphill cause they are not flat, car needs to climb up to get out of them.

Ok, no worries, just a suggestion (easy to put a brick under a tire), but I see your point about rollers.

SUV bigger tires and more weight = more traction

@@migs8361 Both cars have more than enough traction to move forward, besides both are about 1700 kg. Tyres are very similar, they sit in rollers almost the same.

@@migs8361, besides, that's not even an SUV.

Audi got destroyed

And this was with X-mode turned off! Subaru awd system is the best in the world. Now if someone would just build a 1967 resto-mod mustang or camaro with a subaru awd system....oh boy that would be killer.

HONDAMIKI : Nice coment from Honda fan, HAHA ))

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ABSOLUTELY THE WORST CAR IVE EVER OWNED.

a Pint of Guinness and a packet of crisps what type oh Subaru did you own?

quattro better🇩🇪

Johnny In fact, Audi did quite well but with ESP turned off.

MAN IN BLACK Correct. You just need to know how to use it. In previous generation (C6) you also need to turn ASR off, otherwise car will stuck even on two rollers (cause rpm is limited to ~900 rpm, not enough for traction control to work effectively).

I was talking about with the ESP on.. Not saying that the quattro is not good, but in this comparison Subaru wins for me.. Should try xDrive vs quattro nex time!

Johnny There is no doubt that traction control in Audi isn't as fast as in Subaru. And it can be even faster if you turn x-mode on. But both cars passed all tests, in a different way.

Yeah, but why you have to deactivate the ESP to make it work? Subaru works with the ESP turned on. If Subaru works with ESP on, why Audi shouldn't?

Which one would you say has the best planted feel around corners?

@@dimprabowo The Audi.

@@dimprabowosubaru, of the boxer engine and better balance

Which is better? Which has the best traction?

They are diy. You can find such vidoes on my channel, for example: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZeUbNp-sdWRhJs.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m9J2gJmizJ_WfWw.html

Basic info is in description - production year, engine, transmission. AWD systems - torsen in Audi, multiplate clutch-pack in Subaru. We publish a little bit more info on channel community tab and on our Facebook page but discussions with viewers are what we like the most 🙂

WRX STI has much more advanced awd system than both cars from this test 🙂

Alex Betancourt Like this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g6mhnMSot7CtkWw.html

A4 Price 15k

new A6 quattro is €50,000+ and Outback is €39,000

Audrius Gedrimas Traction control is faster in Subaru, but both cars pass all tests, so for me there is no winner/loser.

Audrius Gedrimas duh

duszaniespokojna so getting stuck in place is a good thing?

Angealswings Who claims it is?

That's interesting, although i've never heard of that happening with anyone with a subaru i do know someone that had their audi turn into a doorstop however (engine seized)

Liris 1 I hope it will be better then this Rav4 Hybrid: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdVofa96vsmVqYk.html

Historically Toyota’s AWD has not been up to par with Subaru or Audi... it is a part-time AWD, with open differentials and only a three channel ABS system.... that equates to absolutely no right to left powered transfer on the rear axel. This is due to the rav being primarily a FWD vehicle...

Why would by a overpriced volkswagen when you can buy good japanese car?

Dude this is like bmw vs audi but subaru i mean that s a whole new level of *awesome* and *4x4*

@Martin Evans That elitist argument becomes harder to make with the Touring XT versions of Outback and Legacy. Put Napa leather and EyeSight in a Subaru, and Audi starts to look like it's only riding on aesthetics and a 40yo racing reputation.

@@evokki0075 enjoy your glass transmissions.

Sounds like you've fallen for the marketing. They're both technically symmetrical.

Built in the USA (Lafayette, IN)

American factory

With Japanese Engine and Transmission

Michael Lewis W American production

rx400h 2008 Ive 2 Tribecas..... badassery. Made in America.... aint yo daddys ford though

Martin Kostov Like in description, Audi goes first.

Which is better? Which has the best traction?

@@claudiu-razvanrus725subaru

Sorcerer Stone It is not the point of GKN, but individual software. There are awd systems based on GKN which are on top level.

Hey look, someone who can't afford an Audi. Not being an Audi fanboy or anything but if somebody buys an Audi, it doesn't mean that he "tosses money away". You're paying for build quality, design, technology, interior, etc... Yeah the Subaru won the AWD test on rollers, does it make it a better car ? Of course not. You probably wouldn't notice the difference in real world situation like 95% of the time because both systems are actually really good. It all depends on what you're looking for.

All up to volunteers 🙂

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I want to ssee this

@@Madnesschannel100 Me to...

Oscar De La Rosa Here is Audi SUV vs Subaru SUV: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJZ6mJaZ3c_RXYU.html

Edu.G I'm not sure what you mean. Air lockers are for offroad, they lock the diffs and that's all. When it comes to Subaru - what electronic limited slip diff you mean? For front and rear diffs they use only brake based systems (in the past they used lsd at rear). For center diff they use clutch instead of diff or a diff integrated with clutch in some models. Or mechanical LSD, but this one is already finishing its carieer.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers O.K. what am trying to say is that both air lockers and limited slip differential serve to minimize slip, considering that the vehicle is a rear wheel drive. Which is better?

Edu.G Depends on needs. You can't drive in normal or slippery conditions with lockers. That's for offroad applications. LSD exactly the opposite.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Thanks for the answer, keep up the good work

Tomáš Opletal i'm using a my2015 outback Diesel, i know Subaru is the best and this video proves it😉

Tomáš Opletal, exactly, SUBARU is ranked among the top 3 safest car-manufacturers at the moment according to EURONCAP... even audi's safety is below Subaru's rating :D

SubaruOutbackBoxer subaru is a shit

Tomáš Opletal not good choice

Flame Scorpion, because Subaru is safer, more reliable, has better AWD system and has a better value for money? Audi fanboys and their pathetic excuses :D

Ive had two Audis, one brand new and both had faults. Waste of money, never again.

Blocked User Edge of the roller doesn't help much, check this outtake of Mazda test: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fsWcgMKnvd22g6M.html

duszaniespokojna I will check out the link. I've been interested in the Subarus drive system for years. Saw a video last week where they had some deep mud and the subaru got thru it over and over again and all the big 4 wd trucks with big tires got stuck and had to be pulled thru. The little Subaru put them to shame xD

Outback is made in Indiana USA then shipped to other parts of the world. Not 100% Japan

@@HOTPLATEGAMING In The Middle East region the outback is the Japanese Made Version not the usa one ;)

Subaru AWD is also for on road grip and handling with being a permanent system.

It's torsen. There is no haldex in any A6. Some C8 have quattro ultra.

Why buy a car for good looks? You can't see it when you drive it. I buy engineering and reliability (when was the last time you saw a Sub on the side of the road with the bonnet up?)...and resale value. Enough said

@@gbsailing9436 today actually. A subie forester on the side of the road with hood up.

There is no correlation between roller tests and track performance. Road or offroad - yes, when you need to start in slippery conditions or climb a hill. I am preparing video with examples of fails on rollers and their reflection in real conditions. Subaru is one of the best in these tests, among Jeep, Suzuki, Tesla.

@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Cool, thanks for the info.

They are diy.

Torsen. Haldex wasn't used in A6.