Authorized Personnel Only - How To Change Brush Holders On A Hydroelectric Turbine Generator

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Chris Boden

Chris Boden

3 жыл бұрын

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@DrewskisBrews
@DrewskisBrews 3 жыл бұрын
Any machine is a smoke machine if you operate it wrong enough
@SamSitar
@SamSitar 3 жыл бұрын
yes smoke is very entertaining. a certain UK electrician did that by sending things way off the scale.
@ericlunneborg907
@ericlunneborg907 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamSitar photonicinduction?
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 2 жыл бұрын
People who own massive, straight piped diesel truck: "am I a joke to you?"
@maxasaurus3008
@maxasaurus3008 6 ай бұрын
😂😂
@Idrinklight44
@Idrinklight44 3 ай бұрын
Applies to a whole lot of machines....bad when your up in air and that smoke comes out
@kls2020
@kls2020 3 жыл бұрын
Carbon brushes are constructed primarily of graphite and have a negative temperature coefficient ( the hotter they get the less resistance which allows even more current to flow resulting in more heat ) The brush holders are typically arranged in pairs or groups in parallel on each of the Positve and Negative slip rings . If one brush loses contact due to sticking in the holder , losing spring tension due to brush wear or burning up all of the remaining brushes have to pick up the current from the failed brush . This increases the current and heat of the remaining brush(es) and leads to thermal runaway that can destroy every brush one at a time leading to a slip ring flash over/ loss of excitation condition to the generator that will trip it offline . Daily inspection and periodic maintenance is key with this equipment . Brushes should all be checked with an infra red heat monitor to catch hot brushes before damage occurs , Constant tension brush holders like those being installed in the video will compensate for brush wear and reduce problems .
@tedrex8959
@tedrex8959 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I know nothing about this type of thing and found that really interesting. I am grateful that you took the time to explain it so well.
@kls2020
@kls2020 3 жыл бұрын
@@tedrex8959 Thanks Ted I don't know much about drama but I do know something about the workings of a hydro plant
@MrRadar88
@MrRadar88 2 жыл бұрын
It's called selective action.
@gregkocher5352
@gregkocher5352 5 күн бұрын
Around 2000 I got be the manager of a pickling line and a single stand cold rolling mill electrical maintenance. It was all MG sets and DC motors. We were nearly bankrupt too. Early on my best motor inspector alerted me to the state the brushes were in. We had very little stock and most were down to barely acceptable nubs. My bosses ahout sh!t when I reported we needed to replace hundreds of brushes. My explanation that the damage to commutators, slip rings and brushholders flummoxed them. But we got the brushes. And over the next 3 years we were able to get that division into good shape. Sadly the overall corporation failed. This is a great video. I saw hundreds of DC motors and there is always something new to learn.
@Fireship1
@Fireship1 3 жыл бұрын
Used to work for a company that operated and maintained six car airport monorails. There was six traction motors that had twelve brushes each. (3 phase motors) They looked similar to these and at 600 volts DC and running 24/7 they wore down in a hurry!
@aleks138
@aleks138 3 жыл бұрын
now I want a video of the dungeon
@scumbaggo
@scumbaggo 3 жыл бұрын
love your no-fucks-given attitude combined with the know-what-the-fucks-up attitude. Im a deck builder/GC, if you were in my business we would both be the last on the list to talk to the customer. Good shit man, keep doin what you're doin.
@krz8888888
@krz8888888 3 жыл бұрын
So can we expect a "How not to synchronize a generator to the grid" video soon ? ;)
@RobertCraft-re5sf
@RobertCraft-re5sf 19 күн бұрын
I love how old and sturdy it is. That really must have been satisfying installing that hardware that, as you said, may last 100 years.
@donparker8246
@donparker8246 3 жыл бұрын
My Dad was a union millwright and I've heard him talk about whose job it was. Millwrights, electricians, or outside contractors.
@ZlotyCK89
@ZlotyCK89 3 жыл бұрын
I like those sneak peeks to daily work at hydro plant.
@SamSitar
@SamSitar 3 жыл бұрын
they are very informative.
@nixxonnor
@nixxonnor 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching these videos. To get a glimpse of how they do interesting stuff like operating and maintaining a hydroelectric power plant. Anyone else than Chris Boden should probably follow a checklist in accordance with a procedure when doing this job. The procedure should probably include using a calibrated torque wrench to be able to verify that the bolts were tightened just right.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 3 жыл бұрын
An electrician hands over to the millwright when the thing to be moved or installed is too heavy to lift, then just does the connections. As instrumentation, we handled the cobnnections to sensors and actuators, except for power, and would have the entire run for temperature sensing, because electricians are totally mystified by having a sensor and wiring that is a short circuit, but which still works while it is that. Even more fun when your calibration of the unit was to adjust a resistor, so that the short circuit now had a specific resistance, and this now made it read correctly. As to the small guy getting jobs, know of a few motor dealerships where the smallest skinniest mechanic is a specialist, there to go under the footwells and do clutch, brake pedals and linkages, because he fits there without needing to remove the front seats.
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak 2 жыл бұрын
The way unions work in the USA is really weird. Over here, unions bargain for everyone in the sector. Every worker benefits from it, regardless whether you're a union member or not. Being in a union doesn't give you extra rights or privileges (though many offer legal assistance or social services) but being part of one makes the union more powerful. They generally bargain over base line stuff like the lowest number of vacation days you get (generally 4 weeks per year), wages, extra retirement days if you've worked your ass off your whole life and are worn out at 65 years old, and stuff like it. Every worker can still individually ask the employer for higher wages, bonuses and other stuff. Most don't get extras, but if you're a highly skilled worker that's highly needed by multiple companies, you bet your ass you get all the sweet sweet benefits you want. You don't like the pay? You can ask for more and get it too, if you have highly wanted skills. But yeah. We don't have stuff like 'that's a union job' right here. Any worker can do any job, as long as they are skilled enough to not kill themselves or others on the job. We have like 3 'general' unions representing workers from all walks of life (the christian union, the standard/social (not socialist) union, a union for company owners and management (yes really). And then 5 or 10 unions for sectors of the labor market like health care, education, construction etc etc. It all works pretty well. The only criticism they sometimes get, is being too soft when talking to corporations and tolerating too much bullshit from them. Dues are like 20 euro a month. Sometimes more if you make a LOT of money, sometimes less if you make minimum wage.
@pyrobeav2005
@pyrobeav2005 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Is this for most of Europe or a specific country?
@Bobo-ox7fj
@Bobo-ox7fj 4 ай бұрын
@@pyrobeav2005 Think he's Dutch.
@Zander10102
@Zander10102 2 ай бұрын
Shill
@user-cs1ne8gx9u
@user-cs1ne8gx9u Ай бұрын
As a union millwright that makes a living doing boilermaker work I approve wholeheartedly.
@mnFlatLander
@mnFlatLander 2 ай бұрын
Why did I get all choked up when I watched your thank you message....
@uzaiyaro
@uzaiyaro 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god this channel is a gem. I love it.
@Kenionatus
@Kenionatus 3 жыл бұрын
Electrician's hammer 😂
@clifffarion7448
@clifffarion7448 3 ай бұрын
I love your videos -That installation is a nice open structure to work on. You want to try the same operation on Siemens 700 kw unit in the belly of a boat.
@brothertyler
@brothertyler 2 жыл бұрын
You remind me of myself when I used to work on old military aircraft. Same mindset.
@kainhall
@kainhall 2 жыл бұрын
0:32 you instantly became more "human" and relatable thank you for cussing (and leaving it in) . also.... a proper use of cussing i have NO CLUE what im looking at..... but i know its REALLY bad
@Kubla84
@Kubla84 Жыл бұрын
changed many brushes on older DC drive elevators and the motor-generator that powered it
@andrewfurlotte8307
@andrewfurlotte8307 2 жыл бұрын
We sand the brushes when we install them. To ensure good contact on startup.
@Raintiger88
@Raintiger88 9 ай бұрын
Hah. . my first job at Beth Steel. . .changing brushes in big ass MG sets. Good times.
@nixxonnor
@nixxonnor 2 жыл бұрын
Can a newly installed brush carry full operational current, or do you let it rotate for a while first to let it adjust to the exact slip ring shape?
@davidbudka1298
@davidbudka1298 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know the layout of this power plant. It apparently has both horizontal and vertical shafted turbines and generators!
@paulbacklund4770
@paulbacklund4770 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear about brush hardness and how to determine optimal hardness for a particular unit.
@garylozowski1419
@garylozowski1419 8 ай бұрын
Brush hardness in most cases is the least significant property to insure good brush operation.
@deezelfairy
@deezelfairy 7 ай бұрын
It's a trade off between brush wear and commutator/slip ring wear. If it's an application like this generator where brushes are real easy to change, you'd nearly always go for a very soft brush to minimise wear on the slip rings. On something like a forklift (my profession) where sometimes changing drive motor brushes means the removal of both drive motors/gearboxes to access them (couple of days work) you'd engineer that brush compound a lot harder to last many thousands of hours but the commutator would normally be significantly worn and require skimming & undercutting before new brushes can be installed. I've seen many DC electric forklifts with 10K+ plus hours on them and still on their original drive motor brushes.
@ericlil305
@ericlil305 2 жыл бұрын
do you use an orange stick or anything to seat the brushes?
@Thefreakyfreek
@Thefreakyfreek 2 жыл бұрын
I started on lightbulbs and battery stuf but my first payed job was fixing vacuum cleaners among other things
@garylozowski1419
@garylozowski1419 8 ай бұрын
Brush holders should be .080” to 125” above the OD of the slip ring for best operation. 1/2” is way too high.
@jimnasby
@jimnasby Жыл бұрын
Is the drive for the exciter basically a paddle wheel?
@davidbudka1298
@davidbudka1298 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a horizontally shafted, water wheel, direct current dynamo?
@KurtBarcelona
@KurtBarcelona 28 күн бұрын
how do you often change them?
@franconianbike
@franconianbike 2 жыл бұрын
Is that an SKF bearing?
@Jumansa19
@Jumansa19 2 жыл бұрын
Ty to let us watch
@clarkwg247
@clarkwg247 20 күн бұрын
Did the Mill Billy run? No? Then ya got nutt'n ta worry 'bout
@hanswichmann5047
@hanswichmann5047 2 ай бұрын
Nice vid! Nothing new personally but really well done. Love your shit.. Oh, Mr.Boots is a fucking riot! More Boots - more Boots!!
@alexandern8hgeg5e9
@alexandern8hgeg5e9 8 ай бұрын
I think the brush holder needs to be closer to the ring.
@DimSimSam
@DimSimSam 2 жыл бұрын
I got a “brushless” Drill, Circular Saw and numerous other tools so do digital motors have brushes?
@kylehenline3245
@kylehenline3245 27 күн бұрын
Nope. In Brushless DC motors the rotor is just a permanent magnet that doesn't have any electrical connections going to it, So no need for brushes and commutator.
@jonathancarr5537
@jonathancarr5537 2 жыл бұрын
Are those old Westinghouse generators
@josephjorgensen3282
@josephjorgensen3282 4 ай бұрын
It's all electrical tell proven wrong
@walterfarley9230
@walterfarley9230 3 ай бұрын
How many volts and amps on that rotor
@africanelectron751
@africanelectron751 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised you could even find those holders or did you have them in the back?
@gabiold
@gabiold 2 жыл бұрын
Since sliprings are in use still this day, I assume he bought some available similar sized parts. The brush size doesn't have to be that exact to the original, and if nothing else, you can turn differently-sized holding pins for the assembly on a lathe. Quite easy to fix. This is the nice thing in proper industrial stuff, everything is metal or machined industrial plastic, put together by thinking people, thus repairaple. (as opposed to consumer stuff. And cars. Since the past two decades or so...)
@joshjones3408
@joshjones3408 3 ай бұрын
It was demonetized about 6½ fucks ago ...great video tho👌👍👍
@wgmskiing
@wgmskiing 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think burned them up in the first place?
@Physicsduck
@Physicsduck 3 жыл бұрын
We call him....Lunchbox.
@wgmskiing
@wgmskiing 3 жыл бұрын
@@Physicsduck haha fair enough Chris. Thanks for showing us this beautiful old machinery
@ipha
@ipha 3 жыл бұрын
Not every day you hear about Coopersville on the internet!
@Physicsduck
@Physicsduck 3 жыл бұрын
Born and raised! :)
@SamSitar
@SamSitar 3 жыл бұрын
@@Physicsduck I wonder how many people outside of Michigan know about it?
@lazloslozar6782
@lazloslozar6782 3 жыл бұрын
cool
@graywolf2694
@graywolf2694 7 ай бұрын
i mean if they want to pay me to NOT work, im ok with that.
@SamSitar
@SamSitar 3 жыл бұрын
old brush holders are ruined. how can a mallet be precise?
@randacnam7321
@randacnam7321 3 жыл бұрын
Any tool can be precision iffen used in the right way.
@Kenionatus
@Kenionatus 3 жыл бұрын
I think big precision machines are usually squared up with mallets. "Give it another .5 microns" Tap Tap.
@killernat
@killernat 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kenionatus can confirm I use a 20 lb deadblow mallet to align a 30 ton press brake to be less than 50micron out of parallel with a robot
@carlubambi5541
@carlubambi5541 2 жыл бұрын
it's electrical work
@miketrissel5494
@miketrissel5494 2 жыл бұрын
Can't help but think that those are the exciter brushes for an alternator, not a generator, but then, I'm not there. Rule of thumb, buy the right brushes ... when they are 30% worn out, just like 70 % is a D in school, 69% is failing, you won't have a problem. The insulator on the back keeps current from flowing thru the spring, heating it up and weakening it. After 47 years, I'm glad it's you not me - job is great ... idiot managers that think they are wise ... not so much. On OEM brushes of most older brands, when the back of the brush is even with the back of the brush holder, it's time to pick up the phone and order new ones, before the arcing starts from weak pressure. Good job keeping the ball rolling.😉
@waterlife.1905
@waterlife.1905 7 ай бұрын
Not if you have a brushless motor.
@markkennard861
@markkennard861 2 ай бұрын
"It sorts its self out when you stick it in the hole".. First and only mistake ..
@gizmothewytchdoktor1049
@gizmothewytchdoktor1049 3 жыл бұрын
woooo! pay me bitch! we must have worked with the same people at some point. ;-)
@chrism4008
@chrism4008 2 жыл бұрын
You work in a hydro plant and cant swim?!?! 🤣🤣🤣
@DeadlinePhil
@DeadlinePhil 6 ай бұрын
you know you´re laughing but i heard of people who can´t swim who work on cargo ships
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 2 жыл бұрын
Does that mean only authorized people can watch the video, and change the brush handles, or does it only mean the authorized can change the brushes, and anyone can watch the video. 🤔🤔
@coolruehle
@coolruehle 21 күн бұрын
Who the HELL makes a brush holder for 100+ year old equipment??
@johnmcgovern3806
@johnmcgovern3806 2 жыл бұрын
Brush holder should be closer to avoid brush tipping in holder and jamming.
@Physicsduck
@Physicsduck 2 жыл бұрын
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@thepubliceye
@thepubliceye 2 жыл бұрын
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