I have indeed heard that, typically, running the military mags will improve the feeding and reliability.

What's funny is the used Auto Ordinance M1 Carbine I had over 10 years ago ran flawless, even took it groundhog hunting once sucessfully with soft points and it dropped a big one like a rock at 50 yards. Out here they dig huge holes everywhere and tear up the drainage systems in the farmers crop fields, so they are considered invasive pests like prairy dogs are out west. Hopefully this one will function flawlessly too after a few hundred rounds, as I mentioned I have heard is often necessary. One way to find out! And thanks again for thinking of me; will definately put those mags to use in a future video whenever you get them to me.

Good to know

@@BuckeyeBallistics The Auto Ordinance appears to be a reasonably well manufactured rifle. I believe that this rifle has inferior springs which are weak. Years back during high school, a friend had purchased a Universal Carbine that functioned flawlessly with many thousands of rounds without any jams. However, after Military Parts dwindled in supply, Universal manufactured their guns with proprietary dual recoil springs. That little rifle NEVER JAMMED. Racking the Auto Ordinance, you can feel the operating rod spring feels weak, not as responsive as that old Universal M1. I would definitely go with the Wolff Service Pack. I recently fixed a Marlin Model 60 by merely bending the Ejector Spring and used a Nickel as a kind of Height Gauge. It’s called the “Nickel Test” in Marlin circles. The gun went from jamming ever two rounds to firing with absolutely no malfunctions of any types. Springs are very important and it just may be that Auto Ordinance is using inferior springs.

Idk a few people have already figured out where I'm shooting at. Time to move! Lol, j/k.

I have heard that as well

It was lubricated if I recall correctly. If not, I know at least after this trip, the weapon was fully stripped and cleaned and lubed and we still had the same issues.

The M1 Carbine was designed to use oil in all but extremely wet conditions. Here there is no need to use grease, all doing such really does is collect contamination and make a mess.

When I had another M1 carbine over ten years ago, it ran perfect on Sellier & Bellot ammo- I intend to try some of that again. The rifle is far more powerful than most pistol rounds, but yes, underpowered compared to other centerfire rifles. Mil spec .30 Carbine cartridges produce 967ft-lbs of energy, which is practically 3 times the amount of the energy a mil spec .45acp produces (356ft-lbs). It's much closer to AR15 power (1294ft-lbs) than pistol carbine calibers. It's also plenty accurate enough to hit an assailant at 300 yards, which I intend to demonstrate in the next shooting video of it. Also, it has already been demonstrated by others on youtube, such as tnoutdoors. I got my cheap Hi-Point 995 carbine to shoot 300 yards quite accurately on my channel, so I'm confident the M1 is at least as capable.

Same, but this one wasn't cheap!

Sold mine a few months ago, but managed to fix the light primer strike issue: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j5NkfdV4ys7LcXk.html

I think if I had one of these new I'd lap all moving parts a bit, file all edges and change all the springs and use only 15 round magazines. Chances are that would fix any problems.

I wound up changing the springs in it and I just lubed it up and shoved about 400 rounds through it. It will run all my different magazines now with very little issue.

Yeah it was fairly new. I believe I mentioned in the video I was working on breaking it in...

I'm sorry, I haven't posted it yet. I should have it up this weekend.

The video is up

Promags usually suck but if they work in the carbine well I'll try one. Thanks for the tip.

pro mags suck and all 30 round mags suck--the gun was designed for 15 rd mags

@@chadhaire1711 when I was 13 I got a Pacific War bring back with s G.I. 15 round mags. (1969) I went to the surplus store and bought 2 G, I. 30 round mags because they were cheap. ( $2.00 each) 15 round mags were a buck. I bought 1000 rounds for $5.00. (2 for a penny) You could get some really good deals on these guns back then . Then I cleaned and lubed the Carbine as I had been taught and myself and two friends shot up the majority of that ammo. The original Korea surplus U.S.G.I. 30 round mags seemed to work just fine. A lot of Korea M-1 Garand and .30 Carbine stuff in the late 60s . Unbelievable deals on surplus ammo. Now, .30 Carbine ammo is at a premium price and hard to find. PMC ammo is good , if you can find it. I am looking for good factory .30 Carbine ammo..

@@daleeasternbrat816 Russian Tula works and is cheap---or was--- until Biden banned it.

All depends on ammo selection. There are numerous .357 Mag loads that ARE similar in performance from similar length barrels...

They are not much different if both cartridges are fired from rifles. The carbine shoots a 110 gr bullet at about 1900 fps. The 357 with 125 gr bullet can be fired from a lever action rifle at about the same velocity. Source: Hornady Reloading Handbook, 10th edition.

@@jerryware5749 it's actually about 2000fps and 357 is about 1300fps. That is a big difference.

@@kimwarfield1587 The 357 velocity you mention is for a handgun. If the 357 with a 125 grain bullet is fired from a rifle (longer barrel) it can reach a velocity of near 2000 fps. The Hornady Reloading Handbook I referred to in my earlier post used a Rossi 92 lever action rifle with a 16" barrel for the test gun and a max load of H110 powder to reach a velocity of 2000 fps. Comparing one cartridge results from a rifle and the other from a pistol is NOT an apples to apples comparison.

@@jerryware5749 true, but that is what it is compared to, not from a rifle. Frankly if I was using a lever gun I prefer my Henry side loader brass receiver in 30-30. The M1 30 carbine was to replace the 1911 so it is compared to hand guns.

I had issues with light primer strikes, so I had to machine the bolt slightly to fix the issue; I posted a video about that. But if you buy it new, it should have a warranty so if anything is wrong with it, you can get it fixed.

Yeah the M14 or M1A1 is in my list to get. Damn things are expensive though.

Guns&Cars M14 would work also. 👍

Actually they're almost twice as powerful as a standard .357 load; 900lbs energy vs 500lbs.

@@BuckeyeBallistics No so. You are comparing energy from a carbine rifle versus energy from a 357 pistol. If you compare the energies from both fired from a rifle, they are very close.

@Jerry - Correct, but the OP did not specify pistol or rifle. Maybe it's different by generstion or location, but when I hear .357 magnum first thing that comes to mind are pistols. There are far more .357 magnum pistols than there are rifles. In hindsight though, he was probably referring to a rifle...

Twice as powerful as a .357 magnum, but yeah.

@@BuckeyeBallistics 110g@1900-2000fps i wouldnt call it twice as powerful as you cant get nothing but ammo with that bullet weight only. 110gr@1900fps is 882fpe 110gr@2000fps is 977fpe 357mag 180gr@1500fps is 899 158gr@1540 is 832fpe.

Dude I don't know where you're getting your .357 figures from but that is not a standard load. You're probably quoting some buffalo bore loads which is not what your average .357 shooter is shooting, nor can all .357 firearms handle those loads. A standard .357 load is 125gr at 1450fps creating 583ft-lbs of energy, or a 158gr at 1240fps creating 539ft-lbs of energy. So a standard .30 carbine load *is* almost literally twice as powerful as a standard .357 load.

@@BuckeyeBallistics your 357 mag data is solid!! the 30 cal carbine looks similar except the longer barrel gives it more velocity......atleast thats what i thought. i have been wrong before.

Yeah I mean they are somewhat similarly sized. Overall length is similar and caliber isn't too far off: .30cal and .35 cal. The .30 carbine has a little more powerful charge behind it and slightly lighter bullet, which is why it is much faster. .30 carbine would definately be slower from a shorter barrel, and likewise you can get higher velocity from .357 in a rifle, but it's still not quite as powerful with standard loads from a rifle; getting very close though! But when most people reference .357 they are referring to revolver ballistics since 90% of .357's are revolvers, and 90+% .30 carbine are rifles; so that's what I went with. If you want to compare a .357 rifle to the M1 carbine rifle, then yes they are very close in power and trajectory.

South Eastern Ohio

Thank you. I just know I can do better and I know the gun can do better. I had one of these close to 15 years ago and I could hit a human sized target at 350 yards with the iron sights, reliably. The way I was shooting this day, not sure that would be the case if I tried. My eyes were never great, even as a kid, but they're definately getting worse. I intend to get glasses this year and then I'll be a sniper with open sights lol. I appreciate the comment and thank you for watching.

Yes, $750-$800

@@BuckeyeBallistics does it really jam alot

Yeah they can until they are broken in. After I shoot a few hundred rounds through mine I was going to do a follow up video. With this ammo shortage bs, that might take a while...

7.62x39 is certainly more powerful, easier and more affordable to attain as well. But the .30 Carbine is more fun to shoot in my opinion- it's like shooting a bigger .22. Matter of fact, the level of power is almost right in the middle between a .22 Magnum & 7.62x39- and the rifles are super lightweight...

I'm not going to re-watch the entire video to see what exactly was said, but I'm sure I said something to the effect of "it's *like* a mini M1 Garand." Saying it's "like" something isn't the same as saying it *is* something. So I'll do my research just as soon as you learn proper english...

This isn't the history channel Chad. If you want to know all the details about .30 Carbines, there are plenty of other videos and articles out there about that already.

@@BuckeyeBallistics I know all the details about the M-1 carbine system. Even so or not, watching someone shoot bullets downrange for 28 minutes doesn't teach us much of anything. The title says "REVIEW".....didn't see much in that area.....

I said several things about the rifle. You know, personally I hate gun videos where they do more talking than shooting; really irks me off. But I guess you're that kind of guy that likes those kinds of videos where they just mostly talk. I don't do videos like that- sorry you didn't like it. But judging by my like vs dislike ratio on the video, I'd say most people approve of what I do here...

@@BuckeyeBallistics I dont like talking or shooting unless there is a point...in the 28 minutes there was a lot of both. About 8 minutes of material here...i like the 3 G's--Get in, Get done, and Get the hell out..

Oh, well in that case you would like MOST of my gun videos then, because they rarely exceed 10 minutes. This is one of the longest ones I've ever posted. I'm waiting to post some now that are 7-8 minutes long. My Glock 17 video was only 3 minutes long lol.

Weird then that I was able to fix it after this video on my own accord...