Auto vs Diesel Truck Mechanic Comparison. Which One is Better?

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Adept Ape

Adept Ape

Күн бұрын

There are many questions about whether automotive or truck repair is a better field to get into, but is there a right answer? This video compares the two fields and answers many of the questions that people have about the Diesel truck field. Questions and comments can be left in the comment section.

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@uresti27
@uresti27 7 жыл бұрын
Worked as an auto mechanic in high school but switched to a diesel tech when i turned 19, been working for international for 3 years now. Best decision I ever made!
@Mistyfgdf
@Mistyfgdf 3 жыл бұрын
Almost sounds like imma go that route minus international Highschool, in Autobody but if i dont go to Aviation, probably going to try becoming a diesel mechanic The idea of working in a clean dealership on cars, or a smaller place does not sound satisfying Working in the fields or just on these huge trucks and machines seem way more fun
@Mistyfgdf
@Mistyfgdf 3 жыл бұрын
@Bruce Lee depends on people and there life Really don’t want to travel far for a aviation job or be in debt Salary for a diesel mechanic where I’m at prob ain’t bad so I’ll be good there Currently I make KZfaq videos so being in aviation prob ain’t the way, and I invest in stocks which might off set the money that would have been made in aviation Aviation’s over for me
@Watchyn_Yarwood
@Watchyn_Yarwood 7 жыл бұрын
Another great video! I took an early retirement from the trucking industry 16 years ago. At that time, almost all the dealerships we used were experiencing a shortage of diesel mechanics. I would venture to say there are many more trucks on the road today than 16 years ago so I would encourage anyone who is interested in mechanics in general to give serious consideration to the diesel field. As long as people buy things, there will be trucks and as long as there are trucks, mechanics will be needed. Keep up the good work with the videos!
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
+William Garrett Thank you very much, great advice.
@outlaw8158
@outlaw8158 3 жыл бұрын
Starting my diesel tech career in a couple of weeks. Your videos are helping me understand a ton of info before going to school. Thanks and keep up the great work!!
@jamesclark9800
@jamesclark9800 3 жыл бұрын
Same here brother, just got hired by CAT as apprentice
@dougs2313
@dougs2313 6 жыл бұрын
heavy eqp mech for 14+ years and i am 40 and plan on continue to do so--work smart and use proper tools and you will not get hurt
@bignix23
@bignix23 3 жыл бұрын
Amen. Heavy Equipment is not something to be messing around with. Was working on a 336 and happened to look outside at my coworkers putting a counterweight back on a 352 and they got it back on and raised back up to put the top bolts back in, and the counterweight dropped, almost smooshing one of the guys. Definitely looking death in the eyes when around this stuff
@grzegorz16100
@grzegorz16100 3 жыл бұрын
@@bignix23 What is a counterweight on 352??
@ferdiscop16
@ferdiscop16 5 жыл бұрын
I am still at an automotive mechanic school but got hired in a diesel truck shop 3 months ago and although I have a deep passion for cars, I really enjoy working on trucks. For my part, it seems "easier" because in most cases you have more place to work and you're less worried about breaking stuff. I live in the saltbelt so I work on a lot of rusty equipment and the first thing I noticed while beginning in a truck shop is much more space for smashing stuff with your BFH, heating/cutting with torches and overall you have more possibilities to deal with seized fasteners. On the downside, working around the engine bay can sometimes be a pain because you have to "climb" over the engine for some stuff (wiper linkage, volvo hood cables, surge tanks, radiators...)
@Hawk2Kutt
@Hawk2Kutt 4 жыл бұрын
perfect job for me I love all the heavy work I start April 6 🙏🏾💯💯
@frankmuhammad9660
@frankmuhammad9660 7 жыл бұрын
I do big diesels and done a pretty cruiser timing belt. I agree with ya!!
@denniseckert8162
@denniseckert8162 5 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed. Thanks for the info and good video
@antz0917
@antz0917 6 жыл бұрын
The bigger the gear the better the cash heavy iron is the field to be in
@dirtfireservices
@dirtfireservices 7 жыл бұрын
Made $29 an hr at a union dealership made less as a heavy equipment mechanic at a construction company, but when they sent me out the gate I made $37 I loved going out the gate lol 👍🇺🇸
@gasperajdnik5627
@gasperajdnik5627 3 жыл бұрын
I youst to be a car mechanic, now i'm a heavy equipment mechanic. Good video 👍. Greetings from Slovenia 🇸🇮.
@dylanzuk615
@dylanzuk615 8 жыл бұрын
This video helped me out a lot. I am going to college for diesel tech and this answered many of the questions and concerns I've had. Thank you keep the videos coming!
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, thanks for going to Diesel school and getting into the trade.
@dylanzuk615
@dylanzuk615 8 жыл бұрын
+Adept Ape Do you work on construction equipment too?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
+Dylan Zuk I used to work on gensets, but I have never worked on earthmoving equipment. Most of the guys I work with have done a little bit of earthmoving work.
@gregbgregb8487
@gregbgregb8487 7 жыл бұрын
I'm really thinking about doing this since I'm ready to get off the road. I just hope it works out better for than the electrical technology trade I took in 07.
@markrich3271
@markrich3271 6 жыл бұрын
Im a machinist who built high HP drag trucks as a hobby when I was younger . I know my way around engines very well. I bought my first diesel 5 years ago. I will never go back. I personally find the older mechanically injected stuff like 6.2/6.5 db2 ds4 GM or cummins 5.9 VE , p7100 , VP44 so easy to work on. The fuel economy and power are great .
@nedoscarsandfishingvideos5500
@nedoscarsandfishingvideos5500 5 жыл бұрын
This guy is genius love this videos
@Tuckerjay2
@Tuckerjay2 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@tommyb8427
@tommyb8427 8 жыл бұрын
Just rounded a torx bolt head off today on a ZF retarder, made me think of your previous video. Keep up the top videos
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad other people hate Torx as much as me.
@JoshKilen
@JoshKilen 7 жыл бұрын
nice comparison between the two.
@arcdraw
@arcdraw 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making the video. Very informative
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, I was getting a bunch of comments on this subject so I figured it would make sense to make a video.
@Threewulphmoon
@Threewulphmoon 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the video, found it super informative. 11:15 now i know everything in diesel is bigger...but 1 thou isn't twice as big as 5 thou now, is it? ;)
@skylinefever
@skylinefever 4 жыл бұрын
I took the time to learn diesels because I wanted to work in a German car specialty shop. I knew some people were nuts over their 70s and 80s diesel Benz. I also knew people had to pay more for German car repairs when compared to American and Japanese cars. My life didn't follow plans, as I developed disabling chronic illnesses. 8:14 I worked in an ordinary tire shop, and one inconvenience was replacing tires on Isuzu box trucks. It took a 3/4 impact to remove and install the lugs, and regular cars and trucks never needed such a heavy tool. The process of tire replacement wasn't different because we were usually installing 215/85/16 or 235/85/16 tires, and those could be found on a full ton pickups or a Ford E350. 8:45 I actually had an advantage in car repair because I am a small guy. Car companies loved putting stuff in the most inaccessible crevices, but I could do the job. Many years ago, I replaced the spark plugs on my dad's 1997 Lexus ES300, and was thrilled that I could replace them without half the extra steps in the manual. 12:55 DPF and SCR exhaust systems ended up being even more complex than gasoline smog devices. Many gasoline engines have an EGR system, but the EGR system on a modern diesel is several times more complex.
@bobbywright5983
@bobbywright5983 Жыл бұрын
I grew up working on diesel trucks,tractors, cars,so im getting used to working on gas engines,started out learning about gas ignition systems with a Farmall Cub
@jacoblehner4115
@jacoblehner4115 6 жыл бұрын
You.made the best video on KZfaq about this topic
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 6 жыл бұрын
+Jacob Lehner Thank you.
@SuperMegaCliff
@SuperMegaCliff 7 жыл бұрын
I'm 24 and have been a Ford mechanic for almost for 4 years. Part of me really wants to move to the diesel field, but I feel I would be starting all over again and making a pay cut. Be glad you didn't choose the auto industry. Being flat rate with horrible warranty labor times is stressful.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
+SuperMegaCliff That's a tough call to make. Do they work on Powerstroke engines at your dealership, maybe start working on them and see if you like it.
@michaelbrown3723
@michaelbrown3723 5 жыл бұрын
basically the only difference is that diesel has glow plug not spark plugs and a few other things and you will be fine
@fatknucklesproductions7517
@fatknucklesproductions7517 5 жыл бұрын
Michael brown what about scr systems, after treatment, 30,000 psi injection systems,
@alexstromberg7696
@alexstromberg7696 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbrown3723 lmao a shit ton is different on the big diesels. glow plugs are not like spark plugs.
@jbthestoner5504
@jbthestoner5504 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbrown3723 noooo, not at all. Glow plugs are not remotely similar to spark plugs, to me that just sounds like an answer you would hear from someone who knows gas engines but not diesel.
@gaetanbolduc8417
@gaetanbolduc8417 4 жыл бұрын
Diesel also includes Construction Equipement, farm tractors and similar machines, forestry machines. Gen sets..RV, Buses, city and line hauls...definitely a future in being a diesel mechanics...also more and more mobile units...I would say young people are a little scared of diesel because they are not use to it and surrounded by cars but when you get use to it its not as intimidating. Good videos!
@michaelgarcia8947
@michaelgarcia8947 8 жыл бұрын
much appreciated your videos have helped me so much there's actually a cat/holt place just down my street I run into diesel mechanics all the time but I suppose I catch them on lunch break they usually won't have much to say lol but you your my go to on info in the field !
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like them, I like hearing from the people that watch them.
@DonziGT230
@DonziGT230 6 жыл бұрын
I've been doing both for a long time. Basic difference in the challenges is that diesel truck stuff is bigger & heavier, and car stuff is harder to access.
@adelkandil4069
@adelkandil4069 5 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, I do have a question to ask a question about cat c 32 acert I have air blooking in fuel line and there no bleeding nipple fitted any help man I tried the prime pump in dublix filter assembly any hint pleas
@Harvester5000
@Harvester5000 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. I got into diesel very similar to you. Was going to automotive mechanics school and needed a job after school. Seemed only truck shops were open during the evening's. Got a job as a preventive maintenance guy at a fleet shop and worked my way up got training from work. Here in Canada the pay is much better in trucks then cars and the works always there. Never went back to cars.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear your making good money up there in Canada, it's a good skill everywhere. Thanks for commenting.
@roberthallett2799
@roberthallett2799 7 жыл бұрын
I've been rebuilding transmissions for 20+ years. I rebuild Allison for med sized trucks to a ZF unit for your BMW. I made 62k last year. But at the age of 48 I'm considering following my dream and working on semi trucks. I'm a strong guy and physically fit. I excited about it and I'm signed up for my t2. Thanks for the insight everyone
@grzegorz16100
@grzegorz16100 3 жыл бұрын
How did it go?
@NebukedNezzer
@NebukedNezzer 6 жыл бұрын
Good advise.
@Jason607
@Jason607 4 жыл бұрын
Working at a Nissan dealer, when the Titan got the Cummins I volunteered to go to the school. Nissan believes that a 5 day course is all that is needed to teach you everything you need to know about the modern diesel engine. So, I've done quite a bit of work on them since then. Diesel is a different science. Yes, both diesel and gas engines can be 4 cycle reciprocating piston engines with valves that burn liquid fuel but other than that its completely different.
@johnlaska2875
@johnlaska2875 6 жыл бұрын
The exhaust system on the 6.7 cummins I had in today had an egr cooler,egr temp sensor,egr valve ,turbo, turbo speed sensor,turbo outlet NOX sensor, DOC intake pyrometer,DOC (diesel oxidation catalyst) Diesel particulate filter,DOC outlet pyrometer,DEF fluid injector,DEF fluid reaction chamber, and then exhaust outlet NOX sensor and exhaust outlet pyrometer.. The DEF system alone has its own computer system ,individual coolant lines and flow valves to heat the DEF injector and the DEF tank. Each DEF line has its own electrical heating element and a fluid pump filter /purge system and of course a DEF fluid temp and level sensor. Calling diesels easier or less complicated that automobiles just seems a bit odd to me. Back in the 80's and 90"s they were fairly simple but those days are long long gone.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 6 жыл бұрын
+wistech Most of that extra junk was added in 07 and then more on 10 and 13. Yes they are getting more complicated definitely, I think automotive is still more complicated. I'm a little biased though 😉
@_____5489
@_____5489 6 жыл бұрын
Is the most common thing you work on as a diesel mechanic a semi? Or like diesel pickups
@chaytonruijsenaars3971
@chaytonruijsenaars3971 5 жыл бұрын
im going into heavy equipment and power gen. whole hell of alot better than over the road vehicles. pays even better and easier. just have to be a little smarter to work on those machines. they are paying for the knowledge
@ghaifemohamed4765
@ghaifemohamed4765 5 жыл бұрын
Good evening , i was wondering. Can you make good money doing side jobs as a diesel technician ?
@brian6265
@brian6265 7 жыл бұрын
I'd rather do heads on a 6.0 powerstroke than a pt cruiser timing belt
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
I'd rather not do either, but one of those is less likely to cause suicide and that would be the Powerstroke job.
@dirtfireservices
@dirtfireservices 7 жыл бұрын
brian6265 me too
@K1ULA1K
@K1ULA1K 7 жыл бұрын
im a car mechanic in a free garage for all brands here in germany. If there is a Renault Scenic or something to do the timing belt, i sometimes think about suicide :D :D renaults are the unfriendlyst cars to get the hand on, its pure horror :D
@angelozararis7404
@angelozararis7404 6 жыл бұрын
Overrated industry and under pay. 31 years in
@MrJcra15
@MrJcra15 5 жыл бұрын
@@angelozararis7404Why do you say that? Is this something your wouldn't recommend?
@Kidkiddoful
@Kidkiddoful 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man ! I know you have talked about getting your diesel courses at a community college.Do you mind making a video on how your experience was? How long did it really take you to complete the courses? And coming out of school where did you apply? Was it hard landing a job?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
My experience is kind of backwards because I had a friend get me a low level job in the industry, then I started taking the Diesel courses after. I'll put a Diesel career path idea in my queue of future video ideas though. Thanks for commenting.
@nedoscarsandfishingvideos5500
@nedoscarsandfishingvideos5500 5 жыл бұрын
I am thinking of buying my first truck what do you think what’s the best first truck to start of whit don’t want one whit def thank you
@francissullivan6400
@francissullivan6400 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@anthonyhinton9846
@anthonyhinton9846 7 жыл бұрын
I am going to uti for a diesel mechanic technical starting on September 26 2016 my class start the reason I want to learn more about diesel technology because 24 years ago my father used to rebuild engine after his regular job but while he had passed away in1992 which is now 24 years ago I used to help him doing automotive jobs but know I am good with computers and street smart also a good Lister so thank you for in inspired me to become a diesel mechanic technician god bless you and your family Sir.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Hinton I'm sorry to hear about your Father passing away at a seemingly young age, but it sounds like you got his good genes for repairing things. You sound like you're going to be a good mechanic and I hope you enjoy the field. Thank you for the very kind words.
@Mistyfgdf
@Mistyfgdf 5 жыл бұрын
Anthony Hinton How’d uti go? I was thinking about that school (10th grader right now) so in 2 years, but the school gets crap ton of backlash More negative then positive responses all across the Internet, and the debt Most likely for me I’m going to a community college (for automotive now, but in the next 2 years I might change to a diesel field)
@rafaelsolorio3192
@rafaelsolorio3192 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mistyfgdf community college might be better to go to, just find a one that teaches you the same thing and it’ll save you tons of money
@christopherrountree7239
@christopherrountree7239 7 жыл бұрын
im 5ft5 150lbs and mostly have to lift hoods from the fender wells.. drive shafts are the worst to me especially on the ground.. i have to use floor jacks.. rope.. even block and tackle to reinstall carrier bearings. But being small i do fit in more places bigger boys just wont fit. or have to jack up things or use ramps where i just do fit.. saves some work for the smaller guy
@jedidiah4004
@jedidiah4004 5 жыл бұрын
Lol I just use my feet, 5' 10" 150. I hear you on hoods. Access is awesome as a smaller guy, we've got a guy who is 240 and he can only dream of acessing anything on top of the trans
@michaelvrooman5681
@michaelvrooman5681 Жыл бұрын
I am 5'10". 145 lbs. I always get hired because us skinny guys fit under the tracks. Yes HEAVY A year ago I had double hernia surgery and then retired early at 62 years old because I am just worn out after 40 years.
@jakeweiman6157
@jakeweiman6157 6 жыл бұрын
Do you have the option to work over time? I'd rather work 10 hours for money if I can when I'm just starting out
@anthonygm85
@anthonygm85 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a auto/motorcycle guy, should I be able to transition to diesel fairly easily I got almost no experience with except helping friends out, but I'm looking for something new.
@daltonphillips6615
@daltonphillips6615 7 жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel. Love your videos. I'm 17 and go to a vocational school for diesel shop. I just got my first diesel job and they started me off with small work but mostly sweeping floors and taking out trash. I'm kind of getting frustrated that I'm not turning wrenches but when I do get to I'm surprised by how little I know, even stuff experienced guys consider common sense, I'm kind of getting a little skiddish about if this field is even for me, even though I love working on the equipment (or trying to anyways) and I want to learn, pretty badly. So I guess in short. Any advice?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
Don't get discouraged, my first year in the field was doing menial work too. Everybody starts off knowing 0%, the most experienced guy in your shop didn't know how to change a fuel filter until someone showed him. You are starting young too, which is good, the younger you start the quicker you pick things up. That doesn't mean the job is for everybody though, but if you like doing it and it interests you then stick with it. If you want to know how to do something watch a video on how to do it, read about it, or ask someone. Take some community college classes as well if you can they are cheap and you'll be with others who are new to the field.
@daltonphillips6615
@daltonphillips6615 7 жыл бұрын
+Adept Ape Thank you!
@gasperajdnik8004
@gasperajdnik8004 Жыл бұрын
Great advises thanks guys 👍
@johnhutsenpillerjr1785
@johnhutsenpillerjr1785 4 жыл бұрын
Good video Sir.
@jaysmith1408
@jaysmith1408 2 жыл бұрын
How about being a public shop mechanic, I.e. Cummins of Cornsville vs a private company mechanic, Cornsville Coach Lines, both in the shop and field Road Ops?
@bofa1330
@bofa1330 7 жыл бұрын
Lol where I fall out in that picture ape I work on Waukesha and cooper v250 slow speed
@mikezuba1548
@mikezuba1548 8 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great and informative and I was interested in working for Cat after I graduate high school, what would you say is a good rout to take in education for that field? Or is there a way to start as an apprentice and move up?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
If you are interested in Cat, look up the Think Big program, I think that is the way to go for Cat. I would recommend getting a low level position at any Diesel shop and taking local community college courses. There is the Wyotech and UTI route, but you are talking $30,000+ for that.
@Josh1776_PAW
@Josh1776_PAW 7 жыл бұрын
@ 5'9" and 170lbs I feel your pain about long nose trucks lol, I've done both and prefer the diesel side (mostly heavy equipment) great video sure it'll help a lot of young people who may have had doubts or concerns about playing with the big "toys"
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
+offroad5042 I get a lot of comments from younger guys getting into the industry, so that's why I made the video. Thanks for commenting.
@john67elco
@john67elco 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a car guy worked on many different gas motors including racing 2 stroke engines. My diesel motorhome was my first diesel and what an eye opener. I just did u-joints on a short 20" shaft that was super heavy and come to find out my vibration is because my rear ride height is 3" to high. Way easier to work on a car imo
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
+john67elco While the stuff is heavier, it is still fairly simple, excluding the 2010 and newer engines they are getting pretty complicated. You just need bigger tools 😁
@macuse2008
@macuse2008 6 жыл бұрын
I hear you man heavy diesel mechanics is very hard work everything is very heavy my hands and arms weren't keeping up when I was doing trash trucks. My arms and hands hurt bad every night it wasn't worth the money to me. I"ve been doing this for 20 years and longevity is certainly a factory when considering this field.
@Jursaw
@Jursaw 8 жыл бұрын
For those trucks with big hoods, I open them by pushing up on the fender side near one of the latches
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
That works, but that is scary when the hood gets to the tipping point and goes swinging open. That may or may not have happened in past, but I deny plausibility.
@Jursaw
@Jursaw 8 жыл бұрын
haha just have to be quick
@dognamedfred
@dognamedfred 8 жыл бұрын
when I went to school the people in automotive outnumbered us like 50 to 20 so I thought diesel may be less competition for a job. I never really looked at trucks before that but I'm glad I went that route
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
I was the same way, cars interested me more when I was younger and automotive will always be a bigger field just because there are more cars. Doesn't mean everyone has to work on them though.
@samihdaifallah7635
@samihdaifallah7635 5 жыл бұрын
Do you advise me to go work for someone or go to school first
@madmotorrepair1748
@madmotorrepair1748 7 жыл бұрын
I like to have a variety, 12 year as mechanic I don't like doing the same thing day in out.
@viewmaster6949
@viewmaster6949 3 жыл бұрын
I am a Auto/diesel mechanic for 20+ years I would like to make the transition to heavy duty equipment mechanic how difficult is it to make the transition?
@josegonzalez-po4te
@josegonzalez-po4te 8 жыл бұрын
very good videos, I have a question I got a c15 acert did the mains and bearing with o ring on oil pump and gasket on oil pan. the oil pressure was on 60 low end and 65-70 with a load running and after the work on mains pressure is on 40 at idle and 60 with load. Do I need to check something else or is that normal, oh yeah adjusted the valves also. Maybe u can help me out with this. Keep up the good videos very informative
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
It's possible that you may have got incorrect bearing sizes or maybe a bearing spun on you, could have cut an oil pump oring, Change your oil filter though and see if that helps. Could be a lot of things.
@johum187
@johum187 8 жыл бұрын
+Adept Ape bought oem bearings from dealer, running cat oil filters and engine runs great no hp lost and job was done in Feb with over a 1 mil miles. I just have that thought in mind if its normal but I will have the gaskets checked.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
+johum187 Those pressures aren't actually bad, if your getting 60 psi at high idle then your probably fine. Maybe change the oil filter and take a sample to make sure you didn't spin one.
@johum187
@johum187 8 жыл бұрын
+Adept Ape will do that thanks for the help.
@matthewlee1621
@matthewlee1621 6 жыл бұрын
I like to learn both
@chrismassie3493
@chrismassie3493 6 жыл бұрын
Any suggestions for an auto tech thinking about going diesel? I was thinking heavy machinery of some kind. Auto dealers are cutting labor times more and more, expecting you to do more and more training and not paying any better. Is diesel the same? Think I would like working on Cats equipment, or generator but dunno till I get in there. Any advice would be appreciated.
@journeyfurthur6396
@journeyfurthur6396 5 жыл бұрын
I'm in the same position and am wondering the same thing....
@michaelgarcia8947
@michaelgarcia8947 8 жыл бұрын
your videos ate great man! I'm actually going to school for welding right now and it's all paid for! (20k) I really want to go into diesel mechanic with some good welding experience welding under my belt to be a more productive mechanic . do you think this is a good idea ?? maybe you can do a video about what would make a more well rounded mechanic like the guy you would like to work next to in your shop
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I'm surprised that people want more "Diesel Career" videos, but I'll maybe do one on alternate careers in the Diesel field. Being a welder is a very good skill to have, most Cat dealers have a welding department. They are welders that do some Mechanic work, you might want to look into that.
@kbomb4288
@kbomb4288 5 жыл бұрын
‪with the newer DEF and DPF emissions parts on these trucks, i wanted to get a 2019 ford f250 with the 6.7l power stroke or 2019 ram 2500 with the 6.7l cummins, i don’t know much about diesel, how would these trucks do as a daily driver/short trip truck, (no deletes) no towing or hauling, 6 miles to work and 6 miles back home? a grocery getter. long trip once a year‬. i just want a big truck with a diesel engine. P.S i don’t care about the mpg or the cost of diesel fuel.
@phtevenmolz5030
@phtevenmolz5030 5 жыл бұрын
Just a note - all 50 states are a max .08 BAC for a regular driver's license. The only differences are in the state laws for the negligence laws and the underage laws.
@donerickson7869
@donerickson7869 Жыл бұрын
The other thing is diesels are most of the time commercial vehicles hence getting paied for the work you do tends to be easier than the automotive world where the customer authorizes a but load of work than thinke he can pick it up on a payment plan and a token payment that won't even cover the parts
@indie.horror72
@indie.horror72 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 15 now I'm trying to see whag my best choices are to go into I want to go for both but I do not know if I'm able to
@macuse2008
@macuse2008 6 жыл бұрын
This is old post but one of the things that really suck in diesel field is suspension and brakes which will tear up your arms, back and hands in ways auto just won't do. Everything weighs about 3 to 4 times as much and that should be considered along with the extra pay comes extra wear on your body which we can't head to harbor freight for new hands or arms when they wear out. I'm only 39 and I'm facing carpal tunnel and other issues and have woken up in the middle of the night wreaking of pain in my hands. Do you want to be 50 changing heavy leaf springs or brakes on a semi? It sucks man that money doesn't come easy. I'm probably gonna switch to cars now that I'm 40 coz that heavy diesel stuff just gets heavier and heavier every year.
@adamtheede2575
@adamtheede2575 6 жыл бұрын
John Morris work smarter not harder
@victormendoza2630
@victormendoza2630 6 жыл бұрын
John Morris I have been an automotive technician for 14 years and I do feel pain for using impact tools for so long.
@DG-pk3fh
@DG-pk3fh 5 жыл бұрын
Start bench 405lbs on bench things become lighter.
@embreesmith7613
@embreesmith7613 5 жыл бұрын
learn the Smart Work then Diesels need software work too
@bubaba8938
@bubaba8938 5 жыл бұрын
Yea, that's elite shit. A friend of mine who's been lifting for 8 years does 415 natural. And he weighs 255 6ft frame. I don't think bench is that important,after all it's the back that does the lifting. A two time a week powerlifting program would get you fit the right way.. After a couple of months you hit a deadlift of the number you mentioned would be enough to enable you lifting at work with less strain and keep the back healthy
@matthewburton89
@matthewburton89 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video im going to go for diesel mechanic s instead
@amoreholliday
@amoreholliday 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just learning the basics of Diesel... I kniw the ignition switch in a car opens the flow for the starter and the distributor which basically gets and keeps everything running. It is harmonic.. Dont get that with diesel and it is hard to find free information about how a diesel truck runs all together.
@DonziGT230
@DonziGT230 6 жыл бұрын
They're basically the same. Starter motor electrical systems are identical. Ignition power is almost the same but simpler on diesel; gas motor gets power to the ignition and fuel systems, diesel get power to the fuel system.
@Yonny316
@Yonny316 6 жыл бұрын
DonziGT230 oh I had a new kid in my shop change a starter on a 2014 international with a Cummins in it. He couldn't understand why it wouldn't start after and I looked for two seconds and noticed he broke off the over heat sensor on the starter. I jumped the wire and it immediately fired. I think he was an automotive kid is why he couldn't figure it out.
@lookupsayaw530
@lookupsayaw530 5 жыл бұрын
I know this video is 2 years old but there is O2 sensors, SmartNav radios with bluetooth and there is way more than 14 modules on Paccar trucks
@SL-vy2tq
@SL-vy2tq 4 жыл бұрын
What about hydraulic fluid injection injury?
@jedidiah4004
@jedidiah4004 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the ideal body type for big trucks is a strong smaller guy, you don't have to be Superman to lift a drive line or brake drum, but small fingers and arms fit in all kinds of spaces
@jamez2u
@jamez2u 7 жыл бұрын
So my neighbor runs a training facility for union carpenters he works with a gentleman who does the same for diesel mechanics. He said they are in real need of diesel mechanics right now and they start off at $20 an hour and pay for your training. So if you are looking to get into the field it may be useful to look for a union diesel shop and find out where they get their training and see if they have any entry level jobs available. Also +Adept Ape do you know anything about working in a union shop versus and non-union shop? Could you elaborate on that if you do?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
+James Taylor I have only worked in non unions so I can't comment on the difference between the 2 from a first hand perspective. I do have a friend that went to a union shop as a mechanic on the Docks and he makes like $45 an hour fixing trailer lights and basic stuff, so union can definitely pay more depending where it is.
@gregbgregb8487
@gregbgregb8487 7 жыл бұрын
when you got out of school how easy was it for you to find work or did your school help with that?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
+GregB gregb I was hired while I was still in school and then learned on the job.
@viewmaster6949
@viewmaster6949 5 жыл бұрын
I am a auto mechanic but i would like to make the transition into an heavy equipment mechanic how easy it is to make that transition
@KRISTIANFIGUEROA123
@KRISTIANFIGUEROA123 5 жыл бұрын
Can some diesel mechanics be applied to auto mechanics
@adambergold4900
@adambergold4900 6 жыл бұрын
I believe we are also getting to a time where more diesel mechanics and techs are needed because the more emissions are put on diesels the less reliable they are. I see it every day. I currently drive a 99 peterbilt at work and see more newer trucks broke down on the side of road than older ones and the new diesel pickups are no better
@MV-tr8rr
@MV-tr8rr 5 жыл бұрын
Trucks are like whores, the older ones treat you better.
@mlb0611
@mlb0611 8 жыл бұрын
couple things part of the reason for the lower median income for automotive is way more oil change/lube techs in my industry then diesel, I would not even get out of bed for that income☺ Also I left medium duty repair for higher pay and better equipment on the aftermarket side and have been happy with my choice, but I love diesel engines they are very simple but elegant designs. Very good video, with very good points!
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
I agree that the abundance of "low skilled" mechanics are probably bringing the average down, plus there is more competition in the market. That is pretty bad pay though if you had 30,000 in tools. Looks like a decent cigar you have.
@mlb0611
@mlb0611 8 жыл бұрын
Adept Ape currently smoking a cuban partagas P2 watching youtube:) True that is low pay but I know what the 4 other techs make at the shop I work at,I am the shop foreman, and me and 2 other techs make well above that number, the other 2 are still very green and have no where near 30k in tools nor do they need them
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Berg I'm jealous of your communist state tobacco. Do you like being the foreman or do you regret going into supervising? Thanks for the comment.
@mlb0611
@mlb0611 8 жыл бұрын
+Adept Ape I enjoy it, get to help the other techs on hard problems, I still work as a tech just have to manage work flow,due times etc. Much more work than just being a tech,but I like getting the shop working better,billing more hours selling more legitimate work and keeping everyone happy and working as a team!
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Berg Thanks for the input. I like to hear from people who have made the jump.
@emmanuelumana3551
@emmanuelumana3551 6 жыл бұрын
I have a great passion for becoming an Automobile Technician,but i need a huge experience. What do i do? Can ASE Certification be done on -line?
@checkenginelover
@checkenginelover 6 жыл бұрын
Emmanuel Umana Nop
@steinarjordan2261
@steinarjordan2261 4 жыл бұрын
Do diesel shops tend to cause more health problems because of the fumes? or are the shops pretty well ventilated?
@kurtisnorweg2899
@kurtisnorweg2899 4 жыл бұрын
From where I've worked in the past few years. Yes there are heath problems but other wise shops are ventilated pretty well.
@fun2drive107
@fun2drive107 5 жыл бұрын
There is a significant shortage of over the road drivers and I think diesel mechanics. Look at the drivers most are 50-60's and the mills have no interest in driving for a living. This alone will drive costs for delivered good up. I think being a mechanic is a noble position by the way...
@tomwolf5602
@tomwolf5602 7 жыл бұрын
hey I'm looking to go to school for diesel mechanics. any tips on descent schools I can go to that aren't shit. I'm hearing mixed reviews on places
@Chicano11ash
@Chicano11ash 7 жыл бұрын
Tom Wolf nyadi I heard it's good
@oldtimefarmboy9330
@oldtimefarmboy9330 7 жыл бұрын
Oklahoma State University Institute of Technology at Okmulgee, Oklahoma. It has a world class program and graduates can get a job waiting for them almost anywhere in the world before they actually graduate. www.osuit.edu/ go.osuit.edu/academics/diesel_heavy/
@davidscott5420
@davidscott5420 6 жыл бұрын
Look into your local community college. You won't go into debt up to your eyeballs. Plus the teachers usually have connections to hook you up with a job.
@banjomcswamp8275
@banjomcswamp8275 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with yeshua.. the bigger schools are gonna put you in debt.. then after you get your certs and you get an entry level job as a diesel tech doing PMs and shit you're gonna get peer pressured on the rape van.. aka snap-on truck or Matco or whoever.. and you'll be further in debt.. snap on toolchest are $3,000 and up give or take.. be smart and pay cash for a decent sized box at Home Depot or harbor freight.. tools also.. don't pay 250-300 for wrenches you might have to beat the shit out of and or lose.. anyway find you an entry level Diesel tech position agricultural or truck.. truck pays more btw. Now here's the important part 1of2.. once you get the swing of things and have started doing more than PMs, like minor repairs, electrical, brakes, wheelseals and shit.. find you another job.. IMPORTANT PART 2.. when you find the next job.. when whoever is hiring you ask how much you were getting paid tell them 1.50-2.00 more than what you actually were.. bc that's where they're starting you. Give yourself the pay raise then repeat.. you're going to want 1.5-2 years at each job before you switch. Might seem weird but you'll climb the pay scale a hell of a lot faster that way.. and if you stay at one place they are gonna keep you a low rate and raises will stop bc you'll know what to do and you'll be faster and it helps them to keep you at a low pay rate. Cheap good labor to them.. just remember you don't have to have name brand tools.. that's shits overrated. And at every work place find the oldest fucker in the shop.. don't annoy the shit out him but talk to him and you'll learn a lot just from that guy. With that said.. you'll learn more in the actual shop than you ever will in a school. I've been a diesel mechanic for 7 years and not one person has ask me who invent the Diesel engine and what year it was.. just saying.
@samwagner31
@samwagner31 6 жыл бұрын
Your reduced dui limit only applies to you if you’re operating a commercial vehicle. And as an added benefit, In my experience police tend to be more forgiving at traffic stops when you have a CDL.
@daeshawagner9085
@daeshawagner9085 8 жыл бұрын
I like both of those jobs. I love working with my hands. Would you say that me going to school to be a auto mechanic and then going to school to be a diesel mechanic. I thought about doing them both but do you think it's impossible?? Help
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
I went to school for automotive first. If automotive is what you really like, then do that. I'm not claiming everyone should go for Diesel, just letting people know it's out there.
@daeshawagner9085
@daeshawagner9085 8 жыл бұрын
+Adept Ape but the pay for automotive is very little compared to diesel and if I did both then I'll still be able to do my passion which is auto and learn a new trade like diesel
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
+daesha wagner Diesel does pay more on average, but there are plenty of automotive guys that make good money. Learning both trades makes the job market twice as big for you though, so if you can definitely learn both.
@gregbgregb8487
@gregbgregb8487 7 жыл бұрын
was the pay you made fresh out of school similar to what you posted ( hr rate )?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
+GregB gregb I started as a mechanic around 16 an hour.
@chicagojoe2737
@chicagojoe2737 5 жыл бұрын
My first few years in automotive I was low pay. Of course I new nothing for the most part. That was in 1983. I worked part time at a muffler shop in Chicago. Still in school. After highschool I started a job at a repair shop for 9dllrs a hour. For a few years. Then I moved to South Carolina and started at a shop for 50-50 labor ($15labor hour)1991 Had about a 30hr avereage for a few years .nine years later I had about 120 hrs a week at 27.50 hr.2000. Now I get 85 hr and 50 percent of all the tecs in the shop. Plus 33-100 percent mark up of all the parts. We work on everything! I wa6 dedicated to my job and employers. I signed my name to every job. I also went to every school I could I've had a master in ase since 2001. Dedication was. Key.!!! Can fix anything attitude made me.
@cesartorresguzman919
@cesartorresguzman919 2 жыл бұрын
How hard was the ASE, and you’re doing Auto tech or Diesel?
@chicagojoe2737
@chicagojoe2737 2 жыл бұрын
@@cesartorresguzman919 nothing to it! Most is common knowledge! I've done mainly automotive in the ase. You get automotive down and the diesel comes pretty much second nature. Good luck. And dedication to your industry is key. Be the best for your self interest.
@cesartorresguzman919
@cesartorresguzman919 2 жыл бұрын
@@chicagojoe2737 been looking into auto but diesel pays better I’m stuck between both!
@chicagojoe2737
@chicagojoe2737 2 жыл бұрын
@@cesartorresguzman919 try to be the best at whatever you do and be proud and work hard and it will work out well for you! Good luck!
@coreyshort8850
@coreyshort8850 6 жыл бұрын
One thing... diezel is how it’s pronounced in the south. Other than that, love your videos! Keep up the good work! Coming from a fellow caterpillar dealer tech!
@brydendockendorff5115
@brydendockendorff5115 7 жыл бұрын
what do you like about your job
@shortfuse1993
@shortfuse1993 8 жыл бұрын
i'm curious to find out what your thoughts are on trucks that are used in a vocational application vs highway trucks. right now i work on garbage trucks and it seems like between the companies that make the bodies and the truck makers themselves everything has become a pain in the ass. Highway trucks definitely seem easier than working on a trash hauler, but you get a better knowledge of more things than what you would on highway stuff.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
So the older on highway trucks are easier to work on most of the time, but since we are an engine shop we have to work on everything. We don't get to learn where everything is unlike someone who works at a Peterbilt or Western Star gets to know their manufacturer better. RVs sound a lot like your trash trucks, several different manufacturers putting one thing together usually is a bad combo. RVs and trash trucks, how fun.
@shortfuse1993
@shortfuse1993 8 жыл бұрын
oh it's terrible, and what's worse is that not only do we have 2 different body manufacturers we've got 2 different truck makes in our shop. Our back road trash trucks are internationals and the in-town trucks are mack. neither of which work well and Mack is really bad for designs, i blame volvo for that lol.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
+shortfuse1993 Luckily we don't see too many Mack's out here, we do have to work on International junk sometimes though, if Mack's are worse than them I feel sorry for you.
@shortfuse1993
@shortfuse1993 8 жыл бұрын
put it to ya this way, the main coolant pipe runs down the passenger side of the motor, and hooks onto another pipe which hooks into coolant hoses for the bunk heater which on ours are used for the air compressor cooling. and can only be reached by taking the floor, doghouse and the bottom half of the dashboard out. its like the sweeds and germans are in cahoots for engineering aha.
@shortfuse1993
@shortfuse1993 8 жыл бұрын
ahaha more like borderline homicidal my friend. the irony of feeding an engineer from Mack to a Mack is not lost on me.
@tenochristofano3255
@tenochristofano3255 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm glad I found your channel, your videos have answered a lot of questions for me. Maybe you can answer another question for me. A little background first. I am 39 years old. I'm a Master Automotive tech of 12 years, and considering jumping to heavy equipment, or trucks. My strengths are in diagnostics, and major engine repair (gas). My father drove trucks, ran equipment, and worked on all of his stuff as well. I grew up around these beasts, and have always loved playing with them, but chose automotive, because I was intimidated by the size of everything. From the brief research I've done, working for a Cat Dealer looks very enjoyable and beneficial. There are several Cleveland Brothers Cat Dealers near me, and I am considering pursuing a career with them. My questions are... have you run across many guys like me? If so, how well and how fast did they adapt. And finally (yes, I'm going to end my rant soon haha), would I have to start as an apprentice, and what is a realistic starting hourly rate? Is 18-20 an hour realistic to start? Again, sorry I rambled, and thank you for your videos.
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
+Teno Christofano First off, you are a mechanic and if you are mechanically minded then you should pick up the difference pretty quickly. Biggest thing with the engine differences is, the injectors do the work of the ignition system and the fuel system, so it's easier to troubleshoot. Now an apprentice can expect to start in the teens for wages, but my guess would be a combination would hire you as a more of a low level Mechanic so my guess would be around $20 an hour. The Cat dealer I work at is a nice place to work, but every dealer is a different company so the culture is different at each one. The ones I've visited for training seem to be nice though. I know one guy that transitioned from strictly automotive to Diesel and he did fine, he was in his mid 30s.
@tenochristofano3255
@tenochristofano3255 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Adept. That was the info I was looking for. I am definitely mechanically inclined. My automotive skills developed rather fast, and I have no doubt that I can do the same with diesel. I sent a contact request to get some info from one of the local dealers here in Pittsburgh. Hopefully we can get the ball rolling and I can get my foot in the door. Automotive is slowly draining the life out of me, so I'm very intrigued by all of this. Thanks again for the reply.
@danieldoucet9121
@danieldoucet9121 5 жыл бұрын
Here in Canada, my Truck and Transport Mechanic's license legally permits me to road test ANY size truck and trailer combination on ANY highway for testing purposes. I just need an air brake endorsement on my class 5 ( 14 tons or less combination) passenger car license
@dangerboy1111
@dangerboy1111 10 ай бұрын
its nuccery diesel mechanic should be learn truck driving?😊
@danieldoucet9121
@danieldoucet9121 10 ай бұрын
@@dangerboy1111 For testing drivability issues, yes. A Truck and Transport Mechanic doesn't need to be an expert semi driver but they will drive from to time for test drives before and after repairs.
@hectorortega9131
@hectorortega9131 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Adept,, My Son is looking when he gets out of high school in getting into Truck Diesel Mechanic in Yuma Arizina. Any Suggestions or Tips,?. Thanks in advance..
@michaelgarcia8947
@michaelgarcia8947 8 жыл бұрын
I currently have my cdl with endorsement X I'm learning to weld right now do you think this with a diesel mechanic skill set is a good trade ??
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
That is really a good skill set you have to start with, you should have lots of opportunities.
@Lunchbox1114
@Lunchbox1114 6 жыл бұрын
Heavy equipment mechanic all day. I hate working on trucks. Big yellow iron in the field is my bread and butter
@brailonbenton9355
@brailonbenton9355 7 жыл бұрын
What do you think is the average pay for a entry level tech just out of uti?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmm, that depends on a lot of variables. What part of the country are you working in, are you in mining or earthmoving, is the shop union or not, and then some companies just pay more or less. With all those variables I would say expect to start at 16-20 dollars an hour. I know most of our new techs and apprentices start in that range typically. Of course some guys I'm sure have come out and started making more or less, but I bet the average is around there.
@howtowin.facts.7247
@howtowin.facts.7247 7 жыл бұрын
it all depends who is your client
@iLUVrice85
@iLUVrice85 7 жыл бұрын
I'm 31 years old, I've always been interested about how machine works, I'm deciding to go to a diesel mechanic school where I live, do you think I'm to old to be a diesel mechanic? Thank you for your knowledge, sir
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
+Vannak Yen I hope 31 isn't too old because I'm in my early 30's. You can definitely start in this field at that age. Most of the guys I work with are in their 40's so you have lots of years of wrenching ahead of you. Hope you do great.
@iLUVrice85
@iLUVrice85 7 жыл бұрын
Ty, for the advice sir
@judahlionheart4435
@judahlionheart4435 5 жыл бұрын
Vannak Yen I'm 31 right now an I'm a Ship Fitter. Im thinking changing my career to start going to school this fall for Diesel. Did u ever start school and if so how did it go?
@scottlundy257
@scottlundy257 6 жыл бұрын
Something about that engine oil coming out of a diesel engine 1. it stinks 2. it stains everything 3. there is a lot of it . and like you say everything is heavy so the cost of tools required to work on them is a lot more because the are a lot bigger .
@chaytonruijsenaars3971
@chaytonruijsenaars3971 6 жыл бұрын
but you also make more money and theres more job opportunities, harder work equals more money and it separates more boys from the men
@nhzxboi
@nhzxboi 2 жыл бұрын
Also when older mechanics leave the trade, what happens to those 3/4 and 1" impact tools? For me, they just sit in an unused toolbox for years. Shoulda sold that stuff to a younger guy. But, oh no, Snap-On would have taken issue with that. I have more of that crap unused now. Would gladly dump it for cheap. I have no use for 1" impact drive stuff anymore at all. It's just nostalgia and heavy as hell.
@nhzxboi
@nhzxboi 2 жыл бұрын
What really happens is that when a job becomes common...i.e. it is a know and predictable job, any available and capable mechanic gets to do it.
@urgentcareguy3
@urgentcareguy3 7 жыл бұрын
Can you do some videos on the CAT 3116?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 7 жыл бұрын
+urgentcareguy3 I can do some, but I usually make videos based on what I'm working on so I'll have to work on a 3116, which isn't every day.
@urgentcareguy3
@urgentcareguy3 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm trying to learn the engine so I can maintenance it.
@rosswade5958
@rosswade5958 8 жыл бұрын
What do you replace most often on Cat engines?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
That depends on the model, the regen engines have lots of ARD problems, C7 and C9 have lots of injector and HEUI pumps, C15 and C13 have some IVA issues and admin engines gets sensors and ECMs needing changing.
@rosswade5958
@rosswade5958 8 жыл бұрын
+Adept Ape How was it when you first started working at the Cat dealer? Did you have any issues troubleshooting or anything like that?
@AdeptApe
@AdeptApe 8 жыл бұрын
+Ross Wade It was overwhelming at first with being in an industry I hadn't worked in before, but it seems pretty easy now. I mean the work is hard, but the systems are easy to understand.
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