Complete guide to heavy towing (GVM, GCM & ATM explained)

Complete guide to heavy towing (GVM, GCM & ATM explained) | Auto Expert John Cadogan

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This is the complete guide to heavy towing with a 4X4 wagon like a Landcruiser or a 4X4 ute like a Ranger.
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In this report: The definitions and what they mean:
* Tare weight
* Kerb weight
* GVM - gross vehicle mass
* ATM - aggregate trailer mass
* Towball download
* GCM - gross combination mass
* Payload capacity
I also discuss the towing 'arms race' in which people think it's OK to tow a 3500kg trailer with a vehicle that weights 2500kg (ish) - and this is often a very bad idea, in my view.
I'll talk you through the payload limitations in the common vehicles and also discuss how you can actually measure your critical weights using a public weighbridge, to ensure you're not driving overloaded - which has important safety, legal and insurance implications.
Also discussed: GVM upgrades and warranty, and the effect of adding accessories on your payload capacity.
Toyota heavy towing guide: toyotamanuals.com.au/images/t...
Pedders GVM upgrade details: www.pedders.com.au/kits/gvm-u...
Zone RV $190k off-road van: www.zonerv.com.au/summit-series/

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@brendancarter5846 5 жыл бұрын

to play it safe i will now leave my kids at home when we go camping thanks john peace at last!

@appletree8441 5 жыл бұрын

Your main problem was having them. You might be able to get a couple of bucks for them.

@brendancarter5846 5 жыл бұрын

@@appletree8441 Im sure your parents would agree with that!

@atticstattic 5 жыл бұрын

@@brendancarter5846 He's leaving them behind as well...

@spackle42 5 жыл бұрын

@@appletree8441 Remember that children are like cars: They're worth more as parts.

@novicehomebrewer7811 5 жыл бұрын

Lol

@captainbarnicle8548 5 жыл бұрын

Every husband that’s buying a camper trailer and has a wife in his ear saying I want a 2.5t-3.5t caravan with toilet shower and indoor kitchen and indoor lounge room needs to be sat down, tied to a chair and made to watch this!!

@fortheseventhtime6811 5 жыл бұрын

Confucius once say: Man who takes woman camping has one in-tent

@rich7447 3 жыл бұрын

At that point buy a bus based class A RV.

@PrincessAelaIV 3 ай бұрын

I know plenty of husband's pushing for all that sh*t plus more...

@RobB_VK6ES 5 жыл бұрын

Thankyou John. The trinity of videos on towing should be required viewing by every grey nomad and 4X4 junky. If it were up to me, towing a trailer would require an examinable endorsement on the basic drivers licence.

@adamheapy8603 5 жыл бұрын

Go down to any caravan park on the east coast and the LC200 is the rig of choice. Most are sporting the ARB catalogue of parts and ALL blindly over weight. HOPEFULLY this gets shared amongst the grey nomad fraternity. Great episode JC

@shreckm6470 5 жыл бұрын

@Mojo You obviously did not listen to anything he said.

@Mixos_place 5 жыл бұрын

I was in mildura last week and heaps of LC and 3+ tonne vans. These where all families and not the gray nomads.I am amazed by how they back these things in they are like 20+ feet..

@darylephillips6778 4 жыл бұрын

@@Mixos_place Easy I have a 25 footer

@gallis0707 5 жыл бұрын

Finding this information explained in a format easy to understand has been almost impossible. Thanks John, extremely valuable.

@mutualbeard 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks John. Engineering facts beats "common sense" any day.

@petekay67 4 ай бұрын

After watching some of John's videos I ended up buying an 1800kg ATM caravan, 16 foot with ensuite etc etc, pulled by my 2017 Pajero. Well within all limits. It's a nice feelng knowing that my safety margin is bigger than all our friends Taj Mahals😅. Many thanks John👍

@peterferguson248 5 жыл бұрын

Good presentation. There is one additional engineering constraint that most seem to ignore and that is maximum allowable axle loads, particularly rear axle. These are incredibly easy to overload and I rarely hear anyone reference them.

@fredscheerle7592 10 ай бұрын

There's a couple other over looked, Tow ball, for a long time the highest rating was 2500kg look at used car yard's and see all tow type vehicle they remove the ball from the hitch and latter it in Black gup, Tires on that 4x4 are they the original Supplied ones or recommended sizing, I don't think so, Tires all weight the same, Right.

@4G12 5 жыл бұрын

Now THAT's an Iron man T-shirt.

@davidgillettuk9638 4 жыл бұрын

4G12 Only for those that get it......

@4G12 4 жыл бұрын

@@davidgillettuk9638 ROFL🤣!

@BenMitro 5 жыл бұрын

"You aren't getting away from it all, you are taking it all with you" - Classic Cardogan!

@jacobwhittaker6241 5 жыл бұрын

As a Murican! born dude I find these videos very informative even thought they're upside down and in metric.

@partymanau 4 жыл бұрын

And driving in the wrong side of the road.

@badgerpa9 3 жыл бұрын

For round numbers a metric ton or 1000 kg is 2204 pounds, so 204 more than a ton. A 3/4 ton truck any brand solves the problem.

@rich7447 3 жыл бұрын

@@badgerpa9 Big trailers really need 1 ton plus. The DRWs make a huge difference. Assuming the Pa in your name is Pennsylvania.

@badgerpa9 3 жыл бұрын

@@rich7447 The Pa is as in dad and you do not need Dual rear wheels to tow a ton. A ton is not a big trailer if you know anything about trailering in the USA. A GM 2500 can tow over 15,000 over 7 tons. To me a big trailer is a oversized over weight that combinations over 100,000 pounds a pickup will not handle that. Your big is pretty small at 2000 pounds. A 3/4 ton truck of any of the big 3 can handle the weight he is talking about very easily. The 7700 pounds he is talking about is towable with some full size sport utility vehicles. The tractor trailer you see on the road weighs 12-18,000 and tows 60,000 pounds, it is normal that the tow vehicle weighs less than the weight towed, that is why you put 10-15 % of the weight on the tow vehicle minimum in australia they do as low as 5% which is insane and will cause fishtail in wind or counter steering.

@rich7447 3 жыл бұрын

@@badgerpa9 I don't know where you got the ides that towing a ton is a large amount. I have an entry level HD truck (Ram 2500 diesel ) and I routinely town anywhere from 10,000 to 16,000 lbs. BTW: I'm in Maryland right now, but recently moved from Kansas (unfortunately).

@billroach2393 5 жыл бұрын

With regard to the cost of 400 nights accommodation compared to the outlay for an expensive caravan....you're forgetting that the caravan will have a excellent resale value, so the net cost is much less than spending 400 nights (WITH THE MASSES) in various motels. Some of us like to get away from the crowds. On the subject of the tow vehicle choice, I agree with you 100%. I own a 3,500 ATM Bushtracker and tow it with a Chev Silverado with a GVM of 5,171kg and a GCM (allowable) of 11,113kg. My actual GCM is around 8,250kg. Apparently around 80% of these Bushtrackers are owned/towed by people with 200 series Landcruisers and on the occasions that I've voiced my concerns (along the lines of your video) I get verbally walloped by all of those owners. A typical response is along these lines: "I've been towing this set-up for thousands of kilometers and never had an issue" etc. I say they've just been lucky.

@JimmyStewpot 4 жыл бұрын

Toyota drivers are like vegans... You can't tell them anything

@mcduck5 3 жыл бұрын

When the hans device was being introduced to nascar Dale ernheart senior pushed back saying that he had hit the wall hundreds of times and hadn't broken his kneck yet. About a month later he hit a wall and broke his neck. Because he hadn't broken his neck untill he had...

@karlbartelt3939 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, all my late night searches for ATM videos have giving me quite a different perspective on load displacement, your detailed explaination is far more fitting for the handing of my big loads.

@dougie8010 5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha was intrigued as to who would broach the subject!

@karlbartelt3939 5 жыл бұрын

@@dougie8010 I love the history of ATM kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mb-He9SZxpjblp8.html "Vaccum driven Suction"

@karlbartelt3939 5 жыл бұрын

@tone167 Never go ATV either!

@fortheseventhtime6811 5 жыл бұрын

What’s the maximum allowable ATM anyway?

@longfieldcommercials 4 жыл бұрын

You don’t take bollocks all the time,a very good,informed show, thanks.

@warrenburke5346 3 жыл бұрын

The best explained video on weight related matters. I’ve watched that many and this is hands down the best! Thank you

@wolfgangsalinger9560 4 жыл бұрын

The Best presentation on this subject ever. Well Done John.

@Excalabur50 5 жыл бұрын

Quite simply a brilliant video John!

@Roberto.Giuseppe 5 жыл бұрын

Cant wait give my mate a copy of the "Toyota basic towing guide" who bought a LC200 for towing!

@georgesimmons2946 4 жыл бұрын

He is correct in the first part of this towing guide. He is always talking about maximum weights were in reality most people don't tow these so called Taj Mahals around and saying they cost $190,000 is silly. The average van around the max weight are around $100,000 or less. On the Toyota LC 200 with 300kg on the towball and it's rare to have 3 people, most touring around are couples and in my case with the wife it's only 140kg, so there's 100kg more for the car. Now with that 300kg on the towball now you can take 200kg from your car and put that in van, and your van will be still under GVM, so now your car GVM has gone back his 260kg now with the 100kg I saved, so you can leave that 200kg in your LC 200 and all will be good.

@DiHandley 5 жыл бұрын

So I’ve just watched this for a SECOND TIME! All your videos are great but this is one of the best so far. It’s relevant to us because we are thinking about buying a caravan shortly. We are also considering a fifth wheeler but I imagine that the facts still hold for that. Once again a brilliant video. Many thanks John. 👍

@antone.henderson 5 жыл бұрын

I understood that without my brain leaking out if my ears. Thanks for the enlightenment Regards Tony Henderson

@griff50ify 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you John! I recommend this video to all of my friends

@Salah.alkhalifa 3 жыл бұрын

Best video on the YT explaining the towing requirements! Greetings from Eastern Arabia!

@glennbenge4387 5 жыл бұрын

thank you John. Informative, concise and entertaining, great job!

@skyline3694 Жыл бұрын

This is my favourite AND in my view the most important video John has made, and to think he did this for free. Keep it up John, this video will literally save lives.

@bobfrombrisbane1831 5 жыл бұрын

Informative video John, much appreciated. 🚗👍

@rexringschott 5 жыл бұрын

Fantastically informative. I loved the lengthy rant at the end. From 22:51

@jennikesich7315 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks John. GVM’s have been chasing ATM’s and GCM’s around in my head for weeks. Thank you for explaining it all to a novice like me. You’re my hero. You rock.

@77gravity 4 жыл бұрын

Just got back from Cape York, 7000km in 4 weeks. Ford Ranger packed to the gills, gear and camping stuff for TWO people, basic safety and recovery gear, food and plenty of water. Minimal roof load (solar panels, awning, maxtrax). And we saw HUGE caravans being towed by 4WDs, all with the vehicle also packed to the gills, monster roof-rack loads. There was NO DOUBT in my mind that most of those with big caravans were well over the GVM and GCM limits. Insane.

@sogno2me 4 жыл бұрын

John, thank you. Best advice! Love all your videos.

@markoneill9064 11 ай бұрын

I love your presentations John, it may be a little tongue in cheek but you are spot on.

@elantraboy 5 жыл бұрын

As a Truck driver by occupation we have to work within GVM restrictions placed on heavy vehicles predominantly to keep the vehicles within limits to ensure safe travel. I have been looking into just such an issue as I'm looking to go the ute &van option and thus far the Dodge Ram with the optional drive ratio upgrade gives a towing capacity of 4.5 tonnes and GVM of 7.237 kg and costs start at $80k. On paper you could buy the Ram and a van within the cost of just the Landcruiser 200 alone. Also the RAM/ Ford F250 series type vehicles are trucks built primarily for towing with large over engineered chassis and drivetrains and built for the job rather than needing modification to achieve a similar result. Holden made a booboo speccing the Silverado which starts at $125k and only 3500kg capacity, when it is available in the USA like the RAM and F250 with 4500kg GVM's.

@horseshoe182 5 жыл бұрын

thanks ken

@shreckm6470 5 жыл бұрын

Dont go the 1500 got one and not happy best i can get is 28 L per hundred with 2.8 ton van my y62 Patrol is much better an 7 ton GCM.

@rich7447 3 жыл бұрын

I had an early 1500 Ram and I agree with Shreck about fuel economy (they are also not as durable as the HD Rams). My low output cummins (650 lb ft) Ram is rated at about 6.5t and gets far better fuel economy than the Hemi 1500s especially when towing.

@samatza 5 жыл бұрын

A very thorough explanation, thanks John.

@Electrotract 5 жыл бұрын

Best explanation ive seen John. Its scary the amount of dual cabs on the road towing those huge dual axle vans grossly overloaded

@johndoherty2864 5 жыл бұрын

Your best explanation ever. Well done. Recently looking to buy an SUV that can tow a van of 2T will a ball weight of 180kg I found that only really the expensive euro SUVs would meet my needs. I previously had a Touareg 180 which was great but with a replacement starting at $105k decided to sell the van and just buy a car (loving the Stinger). With the huge caravan market in Australia I don’t get why manufacturers are not appropriately meeting the market. Or maybe I do, they just don’t want to be liable. Also when you ask a car salesman, they are totally clueless and will tell you it can do what you are asking for, even though it can’t.

@SurmaSampo 5 жыл бұрын

Probably because when people see what they need to tow those massive caravans they won't buy it and will get something else that claims the same tow capacity. How many people want to buy an actual 4T truck and drive that around the suburban shopping centre car park?

@stendecstretcher5678 5 жыл бұрын

I agree bought a Pajero Sport very poor tow car swapped it for a Landcruiser. Job done.

@johndoherty2864 5 жыл бұрын

Michael Wilson my point was about new cars. I replace my car ( for work) every 3 years. What new car has a V8 and is appropriately tow rated?

@horseshoe182 5 жыл бұрын

you believe a car salesman? you must be a bit stupid?

@johndoherty2864 5 жыл бұрын

horseshoe 182 I responded to you, so obviously

@billycambridge2394 6 ай бұрын

From someone starting their research, this has been so helpful. Thank you

@DiHandley 5 жыл бұрын

Errr....wow! I had no idea about any of that. And I bet I’m not the only one! Thanks. 👍

@pgs8597 5 жыл бұрын

G’day John excellent presentation, one to upset the troops for sure, cause mate it’s got a whopping V8. Interesting topic also is the 5th wheeler and crew cab utes, rear axle capacity and turn table placement behind the rear axle, there’s death on wheels. I’ve been retired now for 5 years I wonder if this has been sorted out yet, must research it. Well done, cheers Peter

@alectraproject 5 жыл бұрын

Spot on! Now wait for the "Yeh But....." Bring on the nuts John.

@Ozgrade3 5 жыл бұрын

What John says about buying a truck (RAM, Silverado, F Series etc) is on the money. The difference between towing a 3500kg van with a Ranger compared to doing it with a Silverado is staggering. The Silverado has 6.6 litres of diesel torque, but most important, it has the wheelbase that makes it stable as a tow vehicle. A white knuckle trip in a Ranger becomes a relaxing drive in the Silverado. It really doesn't know a 3500 trailer is there (it can tow 7000 kg with ease). Try one, you will never go back. Another thing is the cofg and the side profile of the trailer significantly influences the towing capability. A 3500 kg flat bed trailer caring an excavator is a who different kettle of fish to a 3500 kg 36 foot van that's 3m tall. Take Johns advice, if you really want to tow 3500kg caravan, get a Ford F250/350, RAM 2500/2500 or Silverado 2500/3500. The difference between 2500/3500/4500/5500 models is the max payload. Even better is a 5th wheel style, they are so much more stable than a bumper pull.

@exxr 5 жыл бұрын

I've seen some people even suggest the N series trucks as well for the job.

@4oh3overside 4 жыл бұрын

Ram 3500 Cummings diesel. Problem solved.

@richardflywills4155 3 жыл бұрын

Such good advice and very well explained as per usual John 👍👍

@tonypucheta354 4 жыл бұрын

Much appreciated mate, you have saved me tons of $$ , and gave me a full understanding of what to do, brilliantly explained Cheers 👍👍👍

@TheTsunamijuan 4 жыл бұрын

You are very much correct about it being easy to surpass your limits. I have long made a habit of checking my weights when towing, via hitting the scales. Your also quite correct about the better trimmed your vehicle is the less room you have. Not to mention people are more likely to abuse it. Since they go "well i bought a top of the line vehicle so it better be able to handle it".

@jesseturner9382 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid mate , nice to see an informative effort amongst all the noise , for once !

@fredeverett4340 5 жыл бұрын

Brilliant! I am of the John school. Don’t stress towing when one can use quality accommodation and support those local communities one passes through. I do have a map of excellent coffee shops. I have a small pop up tent, stretchers and portable stove and fridge if I am caught out. Definitely no overloading and it’s easier on the pocket. Fred

@tkhiem 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Gotta love your technical videos John! Beer garden physics are the best kind of physics!

@jackturtle131 5 жыл бұрын

This should wake up some people.Thanks for showing And that's why we tow 2.34 ton caravan with an Iveco Daily van GCM of 7000Kg we are always within the limits of 600/700 KG

@javic1979 5 жыл бұрын

i used to drive a 2014 iveco daily with the high output 3L they use heaps of fuel and have lots of issues. there is a kit for the front end that improves tyre wear and stops it pulling to the side of the road that not many owners know about but they are easy to drive and the doors dont suck air like smaller Isuzu trucks do. you need to keep an eye on hoses rubbing through. oil usage.. 80,000km had the manual gearbox fail, heater stop working 3 time, random no start (turn over but not fire), handbrake fixed twice and 1 recall on handbrake that made it fail again.. random brake pedal to the floor

@buzzwinklemoose9853 5 жыл бұрын

Superbly done. Thank you John. Wish we more constabulary here in Murka to check these overloaded nitwits.

@petercameron8832 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent, no point in me commenting... you have covered it well!

@kevlec1947 5 жыл бұрын

Great video John. I have posted it on my Jurgens Caravans Chat Page.

@effortlessly 5 жыл бұрын

Intelligent and articulate... and the maths doesn’t lie 👍

@exxr 5 жыл бұрын

Good on ya John for such a thorough and informative video. The only thing is I doubt the bogans with their overloaded utes/trailers will bother to a) click on it at all and b) actually sit through more than half an hour of what is basically maths LOL :)

@DavesShed 5 жыл бұрын

I gave you a thumbs up but on reflection, there are only so many bogans that can afford a $120,000+ rig and the time to haul it around the country for months.

@stendecstretcher5678 5 жыл бұрын

exxr especially in QLD where it's cool to be dumb.

@exxr 5 жыл бұрын

Stendec Stretcher I've noticed the trend here in WA too.

@ajcuthy1945 5 жыл бұрын

@@stendecstretcher5678 I'm going to use the 'ccol to be dumb' from now on. It rife in Vic as well. Some blokes learn nothing about their vehicles, just head to the outback and just hope nothing happens.

@photosynthesis_by_pete4006 5 жыл бұрын

This is the best T-shirt you had. Pete the CHEMIST LOVE IRON MAN. UOU ROCK. LOVE U

@WaynePilot 2 жыл бұрын

Very clear and helpful explanation. I'm not towing anything but this video is so good that it successfully draws my curiosity in engineering and I watched the whole video without stopping. Thank you ironman!

@AutoExpertJC 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.

@brendawarner1342 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. We're beginner towers. This is great advise

@katherinemcintyre7099 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much John. This was doing my head in before watching your video.

@AutoExpertJC 5 жыл бұрын

No worries Katherine. Glad it helped.

@stendecstretcher5678 5 жыл бұрын

I took your advice a while ago John. Bought a Landcruiser and tow a caravan only weighing 1.6 tonne fully loaded. LC only carrying 200 kg max. Job done.

@gazzafloss 5 жыл бұрын

Well done John for pointing out that which should be the bleeding obvious, highlighting the absolute stupidity and false economy of the BIG 4x4 and the BIG towable home away from home, let's hope some will heed the message.

@atmm89 3 жыл бұрын

great demonstration/ explanations, down to earth, thank you

@callumwhite1501 4 жыл бұрын

Hey john, I’ve been saying this for years. One thing you forgot to touch on which people forget about is axle loads. When they do GVM upgrades they can’t upgrade the axle load rating most of the time. So even if you upgrade the GVM you most likely will still exceed the axle load when you add the ball weight.

@mickmiddle3331 5 жыл бұрын

Well Done!! This video is a keeper.

@stephengloor8451 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks John - just bought a Triton 4WD so this was perfect. I was getting really confused with all the terms.

@Lazbotnik 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. You might have saved some lives with this one!

@ronwiddison8899 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative, thanks heaps John!!! I had NFI before watching this video

@tocsin1977 3 жыл бұрын

Comments were shut off on your weight distribution hitch response, but I wanted to drop a note to say, thank you. Your explanation of the torque forces made total sense, and helped me understand how the heck these work - especially weight distribution hitches like the Andersen, which uses no spring bars. So often, the reviews call it "magic," but I don't remember any of Newton's laws applying to magic. Also, excellent information about potential problems driving through a dip, and disconnecting the WD hitch before navigating obstacles. You've definitely gained a subscriber, and thank you for the logical explanations and understandable diagrams!

@uncle_moose 5 жыл бұрын

Verk good point. Thanx and keep up the good work.

@barje.waffles5461 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you. This needs to be said. Then said again, then again and forevermore untill people listen.

@bnighter 5 жыл бұрын

i'll need three times just to understand.

@frederickburns1739 5 жыл бұрын

Hey John C, Great video!!! Problem is the consumer!!! The second biggest investment that most people make is a vehicle; and most never read the OWNERS MANUAL!!! I speak from the HEAVY TRUCK INDUSTRY background; I don't care what continent you live on when it comes to RV towing there should be a required drivers license. Living in the U.S. I see this problem quite often; any vehicle that is towing be it LARGE or small should be required to go through a weigh station!!! Here In the U.S. the auto manufacturers are all about the whistles and bells; here they have turn pickup trucks into Toys!!! I live at a lake and I see it constantly; over load light weight vehicles towing a heavy RV!!! (OVER LOADED)

@Hope2421 4 жыл бұрын

Brilliantly explained, cheers 🍻🇬🇧

@ianw5057 4 жыл бұрын

thanks for explaining this! great video.

@santillbrezon2161 5 жыл бұрын

Well said john another great video .

@AussieDazza 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent video John . 👍

@AshBhang2010 5 жыл бұрын

Thankyou ! I now concider myself informed . . . and yes before I bought my Camper but not before buying my DPF carrying unit . sigh . .

@hsvenforcer 5 жыл бұрын

Bravo on a great vid!! Well done

@spaceman6144 3 ай бұрын

Brilliant vid, very informative and helpful. Cheers mate.

@Wofinet 4 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this. It’s everything that I’ve wondered about answered. I’d like to add that I think another part of the reason why manufacturers don’t sell cars with the height limit is that could springs don’t handle loads all that well and if you made a car with a greater load it would ride like a stay empty. And who wants that ?

@ray5789 2 жыл бұрын

Hi John ,Laughed most the way through this cause it is so true, We bought the 4x4 with the intent of buying a van, That was 4 years ago, Well we have done lots of travel in Qld but still haven't bought the van, it so easy not to have one in so many ways , Cheers I'am going to happy hour and not towing a heavy van in the morning

@jolly1039 5 жыл бұрын

Lol the free body diagram remind me of my statics subject lol good work!!

@BradGryphonn 5 жыл бұрын

27:50 Oh, I hear you, John. I've been put in similar situations over the years. On another note. I knew a person that had a business painting roofs in Western Queensland; some insulating paint of some sort. He had a couple of old, F-250 (around 1970 vintage) utes/trucks with full-body-length roof-racks. He would load Ten 5 metre trestles and as many aluminium planks as he could and then send his boys from CQ coastal city out to the middle of nowhere Western Queensland. Through a bizarre set of circumstances, I had to drive one of these utes about 25km over dirt tracks and then the National highway. It was the craziest drive of my life (I'm 55 and worked in transport or was ibn vehicles for most of it). The top-heavy load combined with 1970s suspension and I think drums all-round made for a somewhat 'sailboat in a cyclone' kind of ride.

@robferguson9800 5 жыл бұрын

One of your best.

@alexanderkarl4025 4 жыл бұрын

hi John greetings from Shitsville USA brother we really enjoyed the video and love the Iron Man shirt

@stephenpowstinger733 4 жыл бұрын

Alexander Karl most likely few people get it though.

@bobzed57 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, great video. This whole issue was fore of mind in my recent decision to buy a LC200. I opted for the Lovell's kit at 3800kg, because my 2.5T van has a 300kg ball weight. Spouse and I, like you, just can't our heads around towing up to 3.5T or anything approaching that. While our van runs an ATM of 2.5T, we like to keep it about 2.2T.

@waxerwaxer3188 Жыл бұрын

Thanks John,I love your videos. Did your advice and made it by 100kg on a van with an atm of only 2.2 ton. I now have a much smaller van and it tows easy, uses way less fuel, can take it to rougher terrain, beaches etc. My advice by a small van and if yiu need more space for longer stays bring an annex

@rodpalmer4652 5 жыл бұрын

Bang on the money John!

@thomasskilton2696 5 жыл бұрын

Great video John, very informative. I think buying a truck and fitting it out with a camper body would be better/ more fun!

@MattBlack6 4 жыл бұрын

Re GVM upgrades. The 105 series LandCruiser carried over the same chassis and axles from the 80 series. With different splines on the rear diff and different hubs. But looking at it, I've got no problem upgrading the gvm on my 80 series to be the same as the 105 series gvm (or very similar). It was same as you said, 4 new springs, 4 new dampers. Warranty isn't an issue on a 24 year old car.

@MattBlack6 4 жыл бұрын

My trailer weighs 1500kg, I've just had the gvm upgrade done because that is what will be over in my setup. I'm also investigating changing to 105 series brakes.

@philipmann1914 5 жыл бұрын

Great vid John. Has frustrated me for years all this 3.5 t tow rubbish. Seeing all these uninsured, un or ill informed towers everywhere. This should all be reeled in. We regularly tow 1900 kg behind our 100 series. Knowing how it behaves in emergency braking situations on a bend, we will never tow more than about 2.5 tonne and really, thats stretching it. People need to think about all this. I agree a course and a license would be a good thing where sll this is taught and examined.

@murrieteacher 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks John, my wife and I came to the realization that staying in motels and hotels was the better option. Our fuel consumption went down and the choice of vehicle expanded. And the real benefit was a vehicle that my wife could drive if something happened to me and I could not drive. My mate ended up getting an imported duel wheel 6.7lt truck and a Longhorn palace. That thing is now sitting in his yard after the big Australian adventure and no one wants it at the price he is asking. We travel in style and comfort, we stay at the best and eat at the best. And we still meet others who have also done the maths.

@simonmul449 5 жыл бұрын

People often forget that changing to larger LT tyres often adds around 10 - 15kgs per corner. Those cheap Titan drawers from 4WD Supacentre are around 70kgs empty. It doesn't take much to eat away at that GVM.

@rich7447 3 жыл бұрын

Larger tires also increase the leverage that the road has on the axle (decreasing final drive ratios and braking effectiveness). If you go to a larger tire without upgrading brakes and changing gear ratios you have to decrease you tow rating. Going from a 31 to a 35 you should multiply your tow rating by 31/35. The bonus is that it also multiplies your odometer reading by the same fraction.

@andrewhallett-patterson9778 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you John. Advanced physics explained in simple form. This is why the mining companies explicitly test, re engineer and retest with senior engineers, both company and specialist consultants, manufactors, predominantly Toyota and Volvo, and NATA labs, to produce vehicles engineered specifically for site use. Clear labeling of all towable plant, stating GVM, GCM and ATM, clear towing limitations attached to the inside windscreen, and 4 days of intensive onsite training, theory in classroom with practical onsite, ensures overloading and stupid decisions, with the threat of instant dismissial, are minimal. But what you take away from all this is everyday implementation of knowledge. And if you need to exceed the capacity of your vehicle, either by towing or carrying capacity...buy a truck !!! 👍👍🇦🇺 Oh, and I can fully recommend an ex military Unimog as the ultimate off-road vehicle.

@mrclown7469 5 жыл бұрын

Seems I'm here so early it's still only available in 360p... The Vaseline lens really does make John look a lot more handsome though.

@GuitarsRockForever 5 жыл бұрын

John, I heard this guy (from a reliable source), who run a business that regularly tow a car trailer with his Ute (around town). It can be done but certainly not recommended. It was like "one man in a Ute + a trailer & an old car on it". I don't think he was blowing the total weight, but I cannot imagine that will be fun at all.

@expeditionalliance 4 жыл бұрын

Great info and video! Thanks mate

@jiffbox 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video and spot on the mark

@abesouth3805 5 жыл бұрын

Well done, good report

@bennettfamily9726 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent. Wow. Thank you.

@Wonka_Tonka 5 жыл бұрын

I like that you use red brick in your red room :)

@jameshunkin8589 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate you have confirmed my ideal to vehicle iveco 4x4 dual cab

@ugursenturk5860 4 жыл бұрын

mate i dont know and i didnt finish watching thks video i came to look at a reply for my comment and seen this and couldnt look away whatever you do James DONT BUY AN IVECO for your own sake DONT they are the WORST worse then a renault worse then a bloody alpha romeo they look alright and are comfortable but you will have headaches ive been there before money pit junk break down alot electronics where only iveco can work on and half the time they dont have a bloody clue over 120 p/h to work on it atleast parts ARE ridiculously expensive hard to find aftermarkets oh i can go on for days they are SHIT! anything iveco stay away!

@jakehall9262 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, people need the same education for roof loading. After market places selling steel roof racks that only leave 10kg static roof payload and then people throw heaps of stuff on