Maven Blackbriar might appear to be a ruthless and smart matriarch - but in reality, the whole Black-Briar clan is full of idiots. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Riften lore. Thieves guild lore. Support me on / avarti
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@ollaniuspius12114 жыл бұрын
She may have connections to the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood, but nothing can protect her from the terrifying Avarti.
@kylewhitelaw83574 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mysticranger68944 жыл бұрын
Lol. Funny, but avarti is as threatening and dangerous as a pileon earthworm
@bonefetcherbrimley77404 жыл бұрын
I am just imagining a Breton man in basic leather armor slowly stalking maven Black-briar. She thinks nothing of it, and simply sicks the dark brotherhood and before that the thieves guild on him. This does nothing, he simply vanishes like a ghost, or the thugs she sends end up becoming smears on the wall. Maven keeps seeing him everywhere, but every thug, every murderer ends up going missing, can't find him, or dies horribly. Over a period of months Maven enters a downward terrified spiral of anger, paranoia, and fear. Eventually, the thieves guild and Dark brotherhood stop doing deals with Maven. They're losing too many men. So maven hires more mundane thugs, and leaves Riften, going into hiding with her family. But the Breton man...He's still there. Always watching. Then one night he breaks into her home, getting past her thugs and cornering her in the bedroom. As he stares into maven's terrified, sleep deprived face, he opens his mouth, and speaks, his voice soothing and strangely accented. "The Black-briars are a formidable family; headed by the matriarch Maven Black-briar. The family have come to own most of the city of riften; from paying most of the guard, to owning most of the businesses. Such as the meadery, and the bee and barb." Maven stares from her bed in horror, and confusion. "This infamous family, make an absolute fortune extorting the downtrodden people, of riften. but for all their power, its safe to say that the Black-briars are a family of idiots." Maven screams, as Avarti systematically explains to her why she's dumb as a sack of trollfat.
@bernardooliveira61314 жыл бұрын
@@bonefetcherbrimley7740 That's the greatest thing I've read today, thanks
@euric8694 жыл бұрын
Actually in both Dark Brotherhood's ending you destroy Astrid corrupted version of Brotherhood but the night mother remains. I have a theory that Maven bought the Astrid Dark Brotherhood so that she and her associates woudlnt be targets of assassination .But during the quest you come to realize that everyone has a price including the emperor and since probably the gatekeeper Astrid dies you actually leave her vulnerable for assassination. In the thieves guild you remove Mercer and by re adding the nightingales I can kinda see her vulnerable there too.
@chazzgaming39434 жыл бұрын
She may have connections in the thieves guild and dark brotherhood But I AM the thieves guild and brother hood
@TheReddShinobi134 жыл бұрын
*draws lightsaber* Not yet
@williamvalorious44034 жыл бұрын
@@TheReddShinobi13 hey save that fury for 6
@isaacmarrufo89354 жыл бұрын
Redd Martindale It’s treason...then
@ramitinmahashol45234 жыл бұрын
@@isaacmarrufo8935 RAAUUGGHH!
@nightmarefanatic18194 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a way to fuck her over after you became the master of the guild or the Listener of the Brotherhood.
@prajwalvs16594 жыл бұрын
The lady claims to contact dark brotherhood and thief's guild in front of thier leader lol...
@lotrspazz39454 жыл бұрын
Amazing point haha
@Soldier4USA20054 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Bethesda didn't exactly think the potential plotline changes very well, did they? There are SO many immersion breaks in the game because Bethesda is filled with lazy, unimaginative idiots and is run by a lying scumbag who loves to bait-n-switch. Unless they clean up their act, Skyrim will be my last Bethesda game. And that sucks because I started working on a dungeon mod for Skyrim, but have lost interest because of Bethesda's recent choices.
@thebygoneking4 жыл бұрын
Soldier4USA2005 I’m sorry, but can you design a game that was made around 2012, and still sees a large following in 2019? I wouldn’t argue that Bethesda is lazy, you really need to look at the incredible scale of the game. Immersion breaks are going to happen because of just how large it really is.
@willowtree97094 жыл бұрын
@@thebygoneking They made Morrowind which was massive, easily twice as good as Skyrim and still has a large fanbase. It came out in 2002. Skyrim is as vast as an ocean and as deep as a puddle. Morrowind is as vast as an ocean and as deep as one. And Morrowind was made with a fraction of the team Skyrim had and was still much better than Skyrim, despite the fact that Bethesda was on the brink of failure when it was made. Skyrim is a good game and I don't believe the creators were lazy, but they could have done and SHOULD have done a much better job than they did. Shit, they didn't even bother to fix these issues when the DLCs came out or when they remastered the game, but they didn't for unknown reasons, and THAT is undeniably lazy. Or just proving that they don't care enough to fix even these glaring issues. Also, just because someone can't create a game doesn't mean they can't point out flaws in an existing one lmao
@Pete-vi9cb4 жыл бұрын
Prajwal VS "I'm going to contact *player name*, the head of the dark brotherhood and the theives guild, you'll regret this!!"
@timetraveler00024 жыл бұрын
Waiting for 'Why Nazeem is a Genius'
@iamslightlybetterthanyou26794 жыл бұрын
He runs his own farm
@iamslightlybetterthanyou26794 жыл бұрын
@Cruise Ballard because he's a Chad who gets all the women
@iamslightlybetterthanyou26794 жыл бұрын
@Cruise Ballard both
@CanadianBlaze1374 жыл бұрын
@@iamslightlybetterthanyou2679 "Looking for my husband Nazeem? Check the jarls backside thats usually where he stuffs himself" I bet his wife cheats on him after hearing something like that
@hazzmati4 жыл бұрын
Interestingly Nazeem has a key to ''Wintersand Manor'' but there is no such dwelling in the game.
@ascalon80014 жыл бұрын
Maven: Hurr durr respect me or die! I'll summon the thieves guild and dark brotherhood! Dragonborn, listener of the dark brotherhood, leader of the thieves guild and immortal Lord of Castle Volkihar: ok.
@mystic01464 жыл бұрын
Ascalon And in my case, demon king and 8th hokage
@maximaldinotrap4 жыл бұрын
Maven: Dark Brotherhood, kill this one Dark Brotherhood: lol no, they are our leader Maven: Thieves Guil . . . Why is he here? Thieves Guild: He is guild master Maven: Companions? Companions: Hatbinger Maven: College . . . Of . . . Winterhold? College: Archmage Maven: Thalmor? Thalmor: They kill everyone we send after them quickly, not worth it anymore Maven: Volkihar Castle Dawnguard: Dead Maven: Morag Tong? Tong: Gladly
@TheStraightestWhitest4 жыл бұрын
@@maximaldinotrap The Morag Tong are fucking incompetent anyway.
@jhay39664 жыл бұрын
That dragonborn is almost as equally evil as Alduin or Miraak
@ascalon80014 жыл бұрын
@@jhay3966 Evil is a point of view! :)
@commonsense90764 жыл бұрын
Dude you better remove this video before you mysteriously end up with someone ring in your pocket.
@jaysan26744 жыл бұрын
Oh boy....here we go
@BansheeKing224 жыл бұрын
@Tw1 I am the jarls thane I demand you let me go!
@matthewharbour62764 жыл бұрын
Let me guess..... Someone stole your sweet roll.
@commonsense90764 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@ryhi54 жыл бұрын
It’s understandable why Maven acts like she controls the thieves guild because she protects them from the guards, but she FOOLISHLY believes the same thing applies to the Dark Brotherhood. All it takes is one black sacrament from anybody whose life she ruined, and the new listener would be more than happy to slit her throat. Her money and status won’t protect her then!
@williamvalorious44034 жыл бұрын
Also it's kinda a fact there is basically no saying no to request that way, or at least I assume
@lordhelmchen31544 жыл бұрын
That's something I always wondered: Can the Dark Brotherhood, or especially you as their leader/listener actually *decline* an assassination? Do they have the freedom to say "no I won't kill that person because I like her/we would get into trouble/etc.? Or is *to do so to invoke the wrath of Sithis?* And if it's really not allowed to break a contract written by the Black Sacrament, what actually happens? Do they just die? Does every Dark Brother/Sister immediately get the command to kill the traitor?
@Matheus21video4 жыл бұрын
@@williamvalorious4403 I Think if the Dark Brotherhood was in Astrid Lidership, that would Happen... Because she din't follow the Old Ways . Sorry My English. 05-09-2019.
@MegaAgamon4 жыл бұрын
@@lordhelmchen3154 No they cannot, Once the Night Mother tells to the Listener who to kill then the Listener must convey that Information to the Brotherhood and the Brotherhood will carry it out. The one who accepts or declines assassinations is not the Listener, it is the Night Mother as an agent of Sithis. That is why the Dark Brotherhood is impossible to track because they don't contact their contracts since the Night Mother simply tells them which one to kill. They only contact them after the deed is done to receive payment.
@ryhi54 жыл бұрын
@@lordhelmchen3154 Sithis and the Night Mother won't be too happy if a contract remains incomplete, so if they know what's good for them, they would say yes to a contract no matter what.
@BrightWulph4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Ingun is the least bad of all the Black-Briar's. She's very polite to the Dragonborn, and her quest to find the nirnroot, deathbell and nightshade are to restock what she had used of Elgrim's stock. I like to think her interest in poisons is so she can one day kill her mother and brothers, so she can inherit the family fortune and then go and refine her alchemy skills. Edit: According to the game files, Hemming was originally written as Maven's husband, but it was changed before release, and for some reason, his AI was never changed (he has some lines of dialogue referring to Sibbi and Ingun as his children).
@dreadcthulhu54 жыл бұрын
Dueling banjos intensifies.
@kurozero10723 жыл бұрын
"There are no accidents" ~~master oogway
@Nano-if3ie2 жыл бұрын
So the Black-Briars are like Lannisters huh? Fitting.
@MrOsmodeus2 жыл бұрын
she needs a bunch of poisonous stuff replaced before the teacher figures out she largely makes poisons...if the npc's had more than a days worth of life programmed into them that alchemist is dead within a month
@lsswappedcessna2 жыл бұрын
that last part, Bethesda knew what they were doing. Sweet home Riften.
@rotomen4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I have no idea how Maven got as powerful as she did while stepping on so many people when the Dark Brotherhood exists in Skyrim. Can you imagine how many people performed the Black Sacrament on her? From both a personal and business standpoint, I find it hard to believe no one wants her dead.
@cstains55434 жыл бұрын
She probably had performed the Black Sacrament first on them. Can't have her killed if she already got them first.
@jacrispy32754 жыл бұрын
@@cstains5543 - true, but let's be real; chances of Maven fucking over some nobody she doesn't even know is fairly high.
@LOKITYZ4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the Astrid led Dark Brotherhood a bit loose when it comes to following the tenets? Maybe they consider Maven to be too valuable to kill, so they ignore the sacrament whenever she's the target...
@TheNecroFisherman3 жыл бұрын
Mathew C. She prob had Astrid in her pocket. Remember that the thieves guild and Astrid had close ties when you bring that amulet to delvin? Astrid is prob the same and views maven as “good for business.” Me though, if Sithis wishes Maven dead I’d do it gladly.
@beu92453 жыл бұрын
@@LOKITYZ or they just didn't hear about the person performing the black sacrament because the person didn't go screaming it from the rooftops for everybody to hear
@purpleboye_4 жыл бұрын
And yet Maven is an essential npc...
@vladimirbroev14994 жыл бұрын
There is a mod named Maven Black Briar must die, where you can kill her
@diogeneslantern184 жыл бұрын
~ setessential 0001336A 0 My child.
@GringatTheRepugnant4 жыл бұрын
Well well! Fancy meeting you here :v
@purpleboye_4 жыл бұрын
@@GringatTheRepugnant eyyyy :>
@DooTSweeT4 жыл бұрын
Essential? Then why her headless body lies on the dining table in the Mistveil keep?
@giantotter3194 жыл бұрын
I remember being like "I wonder why she needs specifically these poisonous plants for Alchemy, something's not right here" turns out it was her what wasn't right.
@Cx101101004 жыл бұрын
Or maybe she used up ingredients that belonged to the shopkeeperfor practice and had to replace them. Shopkeeper even insists that she practices the basics
@vanjaarsic16164 жыл бұрын
The worst thing she has done is that she pinched Inigo's butt. How dare she!
@jaysan26744 жыл бұрын
If Inigo wasnt there with me in the inn and the inn wasnt crowded at the time, Maven would have gotten a taste of these arrows in her face!!!
@PhayzinOut4 жыл бұрын
You know you wanted in on that action 😂
@grayterminal2324 жыл бұрын
Wait i have so manny hours in skyrin, is this an interaction
@scarecrow20974 жыл бұрын
Wait, is this something Inigo says or is it an actual event xD?
@vanjaarsic16164 жыл бұрын
@@scarecrow2097 Inigo says that while you are around Riften.
@ye4thorn4 жыл бұрын
I think ingun's interest in alchemy was warped because of her mother, but when Maven is no more, she will be the only one capable of taking care of herself. In some capacity.
@tedthetonberry2254 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Ingun mostly just needs to remove herself from the family and I think she might clean up well.
@Hektols4 жыл бұрын
It would have been interesting if you could recruit her as the Dark Brotherhood alchemist after you become the leader.
@ye4thorn4 жыл бұрын
@@Hektols I get what you mean, but the Dark Brotherhood has an alchemist that survived. Also that is assuming that the player is not the one destroying the Dark Brotherhood.
@deadpoolguy89634 жыл бұрын
You can find her letter to the dark Brotherhood of her angry that they won't assassinate a target for her, no matter how many times she does their vile sacrament. So is it possible she isn't as powerful as people think?
@MegaAgamon4 жыл бұрын
So, she is the b*tch that constantly sends Assassins against me XD Like they could do anything
@banessuperbrutalmetalfunti25614 жыл бұрын
Maven wants to kill Mjoll, the best girl? I'm gonna butcher that salty old hag.
@ZhongliArchonofSwag4 жыл бұрын
That’s a hint that the Sacrament doesn’t work anymore. Astrid is a false Listener.
@paistinlasta18054 жыл бұрын
Astrid never claimed to be the listener, Astrid is just an arrogant bitch who thinks she owns the Dark Brotherhood.
@ChristianAuditore144 жыл бұрын
Its because she does it in secret without a Listener astrid had to hear rumors of people doing the black sacrament
@Prebondus4 жыл бұрын
Maven: *Threatens you with the Thieves Guild and the Dark Brotherhood* Dragonborn: I AM THE THIEVES GUILD AND THE DARK BROTHERHOOD!
Sad thing is ingun(The woman who find a clinical interest in watching thing die) is probably the least useless of the three. One is a hedonist who cares nothing but his own tastes and would probably end up as the family muscle, the others a yesman, while Igun at least has brains but will likely just take some of her family's wealth and find some out of the way village she can do her experiments in, selling to the dark brotherhood and thieves guild.
@SD_yessir2 жыл бұрын
What's even funnier is that Mercer Frey himself said that Black Briar Mead is swill, but it's so popular because it's literally the only mead that's available, due to Maven brutally putting down any businesses that started to get on their feet.
@LostShipMate4 жыл бұрын
I never considered Ingun to be evil. Maybe that says something about me, but whatever.
@agentnewman32934 жыл бұрын
Same though I always though she was a bit weird and maybe a little sadistic but not evil
@LosOjosTristes4 жыл бұрын
Probably because she looks like a younger, "prettier" version of Maven. But experimenting on animals and being fascinated by how the world brings life and death is an awful combination.
@agentnewman32934 жыл бұрын
@@LosOjosTristes true that is where I feel she falls into sadism or just cruelty, I think that Bethesda could have fleshed out a bit more like with another quest that delves more into that side
@Crashbmaster04 жыл бұрын
I actually liked Ingun. I would prefer to kill every Black-Briar but Ingun. She would be a useful person to have around as she would be well versed in potion making.
@chartheredcometaznable23454 жыл бұрын
I say she very mentally insane but not evil
@the_stolen_show4 жыл бұрын
Another bit of idiocy on Mavens part is when she talks about the Dark Brotherhood (More specifically the Black Hand) and the Thieves Guild as if their her puppets, as if she controls all of them. This is even more stupid if the player has completed the Dark Brotherhood questline (siding with the brotherhood of course) as you would be the listener, and would have the highest position in the Black Hand. So in that instance she’d be threatening you by saying that she’ll call you to exterminate yourself. So yeah pretty idiotic.
@the_stolen_show4 жыл бұрын
For those who don’t know The Black Hand is basically the high council or the ruling body of The Dark Brotherhood consisting of four speakers( The pinky, index, middle, and ring fingers) and the listener(the thumb) the listener relays the message of the Night Mother to the Speakers and the Speakers relay it to the Silencers (Think of them as the chosen assassins of the Speakers, there are four silencers, one for each Speaker) and the Silencers do the killing, not excluding the other assassins in the Brotherhood.
@xbox71134 жыл бұрын
*gets paid 100,000 to kill your player character* Me: where’s my knife
@DBfan1062 жыл бұрын
Or even better if you kill the dark brotherhood it's like 'I'll hire the dark brotherhood to kill you!' "you mean that group of losers I turned into sashimi last week? yeah. I'm sure they'll get right on that.'
@tmage234 жыл бұрын
I always felt the Thieves' Guild questline was incomplete without a series of missions to remove Maven from her power base and replace her with someone more respectful of the Guild's position and newly earned reputation.
@ironvillager77784 жыл бұрын
Screw the lazy Bethesda 😂
@somegingerdude81104 жыл бұрын
Oblivion Thieves Guild: Robin Hood Gang Skyrim Thieves Guild: Tamrielic Mafia
@GenericUsername-qp1ww Жыл бұрын
personally I always felt like the Thieves Guild was too Empire-aligned i.e having to work for Maven who supports the Empire and the contact in Whiterun being Olfrid the Kidnapper and Erikur the Ass in Solitude meant it was impossible to play as a Stormcloak-sympathetic character. In my opinion there should've been the option to remove Maven and have Nazeem b your contact in Whiterun instead (making him more than just a meme) and Gulum-Ei in Solitude and keep the questline neutral as it should b
@NoName-mi8js10 ай бұрын
@@GenericUsername-qp1ww You're the fucking thieves guild.
@samersinno16234 жыл бұрын
Maven Black Briar aka what ruined the thieves guild questline cuz u have to help her
@iamslightlybetterthanyou26794 жыл бұрын
Should've been a option to steal all of her ill-gotten money
@MiguelSanchezDelVillar4 жыл бұрын
I just dont help her, is a lot easier to me
@WrathNebula3214 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Maven Black-Briar and Mercer are the reasons why the Thieves Guild went to shit in Skyrim. Also, I see no point in helping this wench or the Thieves Guild and I'd rather see Maven either get roasted by a dragon, turned into a thrall by vampires, mutilated by trolls, or even poisoned by her own family member, Ingun.
@vestige16714 жыл бұрын
American Patriot4041 The Oblivion Thieves guild may still be theives, but at least they actually care about each other and those in poverty.
@oneblacksun4 жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-mf2yz Most of Skyrim's guilds are pale imitations of the originals. Thieves not using beggars as spies; you not having to prove yourself as a capable thief due to you not having to steal stuff and sell them off at the fence, making it so you can just go in as a person with no sneak skills at all; and the fact that most of the questline is going on a revenge mission.
@Mini-Toast_4 жыл бұрын
She really is the Tywin of the Skyrim. While she is shrewd in business and adept at instilling fear in subordinates, she doesn't consider the long term affects her choices will cause. And the fact she is unable to instill qualities in her children that would insure that their legacy lasts past her death, makes her the spitting image of Lord Lannister.
@AntoineVello4 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who understands the type of character Tywin is.
@diogeneslantern184 жыл бұрын
Is English not your first language?
@DatcleanMochaJo4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison
@fugustogamer75124 жыл бұрын
Tyrion was a success even if it was on accident. Tyrion might have been a drunk, but Tyrion displayed he was a great ruler during his time as Hand of The King in King's Landing (not counting the last couple seasons of the show, as they rushed everybody's characters in the end)
@rebornstillborn4 жыл бұрын
@@fugustogamer7512 I agree that show-Tyrion is a success of a sort, but from Tywins perspective he probably isn't. Tyrion more or less abandons the Lannister name and willingly helps usher in a new rule instead of advancing his family's agenda. So while we might see these qualities as virtues, to Tywin they are flaws. As for book-Tyrion he seems much less like a good ruler/heir and more somebody going off the deep end.
@xxowenrulesxxroblox63014 жыл бұрын
I think ingun is the only decent one she just wants to do alchemy
@Morbacounet4 жыл бұрын
She's making poisons.
@AlastorTheNPDemon4 жыл бұрын
A shame she's of their blood. I actually rather like Ingun.
@ryhi54 жыл бұрын
xXOwenRulesXx Roblox actually she seems to be the most evil of them all as in game dialogue confirms she tortured animals by testing poisons on them, and she also tells you “I wish to pledge my life and ply my talents in darker circles”
@LosOjosTristes4 жыл бұрын
She experiments on animals and her dialogue about how the world brings death as much as it brings life is weird. Sociopath vibes from that one.
@Rekkenze4 жыл бұрын
I constantly question why I can’t marry her.
@Oversamma4 жыл бұрын
Part of me thinks Bethesda's just a bit sucky when it comes to writing characters that make sense.
@aceclover7584 жыл бұрын
I love these videoes but they just show how stupid the writers at Bethesda are.
@lynnmorgan58974 жыл бұрын
@@aceclover758 when your chef orders you to make it simple so a 5 years-old could understand, there isn't many things you can do about it
@TheKabuto904 жыл бұрын
I mean, these videos don't really show the characters are poorly written or don't make sense. This being a particularly good example The black briars make plenty of sense all things considered. That doesn't make them smart though. Power can do crazy things to a person.
@princessbinas4 жыл бұрын
Real life people rarely make sense to me...
@Doralga4 жыл бұрын
@@lynnmorgan5897 Nah Emil pegurio couldn't write a complex plot if it killed him his stupid Kiss presentation could not make that any more evident
@Ryan6.0224 жыл бұрын
According to the wiki the creation kit has hemming set as mavens son...and his two siblings as his children and maven as their grandmother.
@locoarticwolf21814 жыл бұрын
Ryan I think you mean Creation Kit not Club.
@iamslightlybetterthanyou26794 жыл бұрын
SWEET HOME RIFTEN
@Ryan6.0224 жыл бұрын
@@locoarticwolf2181 thanks man fixed
@somegingerdude81104 жыл бұрын
Gotta keep the bloodline pure
@denizmetint.4623 жыл бұрын
To this day, I thought Hemming was her husband. Intriguing yet highly disturbing.
@AlastorTheNPDemon4 жыл бұрын
Maven... Arguably more irritating than Nazeem. Well girl, you certainly aren't selling yourself with that attitude. Go ahead, keep making enemies. I'm sure that will go down so well for you.
@Lucas89Muller4 жыл бұрын
I ignore Nazeem he’s just a phony buffoon with a massive ego that thinks he’s some important bussiness nobleman (which he actually isn’t) but doesn’t seem to do any harm to anyone and is kinda funny. Now Maven not only is everything I listed above but a real awful person, always plotting, bribing, threatening against anything and anyone that doesn’t go by her rules and who she considers to be a threat to her dirty scams. To think Bethesda made that bitch unkillable...
@jacrispy32754 жыл бұрын
Y'all don't forget the Silver-bloods. The bastards imprison you with the Forsworn, for fuck sake...
@santicheeks11063 жыл бұрын
To be honest I like nazeem I think his dialogue is funmy
@riftenguard47902 жыл бұрын
Nazeem is annoying. Maven is a matron worthy of respect and service.
@isaachester8475 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Maven, you respect power, so go ahead and piss off the most powerful person in Skyrim too while you’re at it 🙄
@l0remipsum9914 жыл бұрын
Hide all their naked corpses (including Maven) inside the "secret" room then place 1 bottle of Honningbrew on each of them.
@Jackster84844 жыл бұрын
Am wondering now if Maven helped the Thalmer get in to the sewer to help catch Esbjørn. Because how ells would a bunch of Thalmer get into a stormclock controlled city.
@jaysan26744 жыл бұрын
I actually never thought about that....that almost makes sense!!
@mrlandshark55594 жыл бұрын
You forgot a tiny detail. Behind a master lock in the BlackBriar manor there is a skeleton with a heart, flesh and nightshade. That means Mavin performed the black sacrament. Why would an extremely wealthy business woman with the guards in her pocket rely on a dying order for their "services" when she easily has the means to do it herself?
@chrisbutters43444 жыл бұрын
She won’t kick the bucket. She’s essential. Also, watch your tongue overpowered Dragonborn/Guild Master/Listener or Dark Brotherhood destroyer/person who kills every assassin sent your way. Maven has ties to the Guild and Dark Brotherhood.
@riftenguard47902 жыл бұрын
And still the little Dragonborn can't touch her.
@christopherbull78562 жыл бұрын
Unless u mod the game to remove the essential immortality
@Nyghtking4 жыл бұрын
I like how she kind of threatens to send the dark brotherhood after you, even if you are the listener and as such too important for the night mother to accept a contract on. She also may think of sending the theive's guild after you, even if you are the guild master and as such can say no to the job. She can send thugs after you but I consider them to be free money and items with how easy it is to kill them.
@Crashbmaster04 жыл бұрын
I always hated Mavin she's the type of arrogance I despise.
@riftenguard47902 жыл бұрын
I've always admired her. Still do.
@caucasoidape88382 жыл бұрын
She reminds me of real life politicians, and CEOs.
@riftenguard47902 жыл бұрын
@@caucasoidape8838 Except she's a badass and they aren't.
@Uchiha-fi4ij2 жыл бұрын
@@riftenguard4790 Nah she's still an arrogant, stuck-up snob who's all talk
@TheLatiosnlatias02 Жыл бұрын
@@riftenguard4790 So you favour those shit heads
@DelinquentChibi4 жыл бұрын
I always liked Ingun, she seems genuinely nice when the player interacts with her. I always thought "oh, she's eventually gonna become an alchemist." Or maybe a poison specialist for the dark brotherhood, either way.
@TheLatiosnlatias022 жыл бұрын
Yeah right. This bitch fabricates poison and you say "genuinely nice"?
@joaquinlanderretche4 жыл бұрын
Nah man, you gotta play this smart. I married Ingun in my playthrough, so once every Black-briar male is in jail or death, Ingun gets the inheritance and boom, now you are the new head of the Black-briars.
@dongenove30484 жыл бұрын
Then ingun dies by mysterious causes
@joaquinlanderretche4 жыл бұрын
@@dongenove3048 "An accident when experimenting with her potions... such a disgrace"
@vittxrio51984 жыл бұрын
Maven is the type of woman that "where's your manager? You've crossed the line! Do you know who I am? I'm going to send assassins to you, don't you dare mess with the BB"
@urielraven-frost87142 жыл бұрын
Maven is definitely Bethesda's Uber Karen
@riftenguard47902 жыл бұрын
Without people like Lady Maven, there would be no order or beauty in the world. You'd do well to remember that.
@youshouldntadidthat76912 жыл бұрын
@@urielraven-frost8714 nah that’s Delphine
@alfiehilton1324 жыл бұрын
Maul: "The black briars have a connection to the dark brotherhood and thieves guild, so basically noone can touch them" me: "ohhhh look Nazeem has a new contract called Avarti"
@nickwhite62494 жыл бұрын
I hate both Silver-Bloods and the Black-Briars.
@nicolestimothy99213 жыл бұрын
Same right here dude. But both side where the Empire and Stromcloaks has their corrupt family. The Stormcloaks has Silver-Blood the corrupt family by Thonar in Markarth, join the Stormcloaks his brother Thonvor Silver-Blood will be Jarl and Thonar will rule everything in Markarth. Worst, imprison to Cidna Mine where anyone who refuse to follow the Silver-Bloods and racism like Windhelm. The Empire had Maven Black-Briar the most corrupt family running in Riften, join the Empire, Maven will be Jarl and continue to corrupt to the core and continue to supply the Stromcloaks to continue the fight even if the civil war is over.
@MrOsmodeus2 жыл бұрын
yeah, everytime i deal with either family has me looking up just how essential they are to the game. last time i left cidna mine i killed everyone in the mine, then killed the arrogant silver blood patriarch when he congratulated me. where you gonna send me guards? the mine? what a bother that'll be...
@zahylon59934 жыл бұрын
When a small fry mortal talks like she's the bigger fish to you, the Dragonborn who Defeated Miraak, Alduin and Harkon , gained a Red Dragon's Loyalty and the spell to summon an undead dragon. "what are you gonna do you insidious wench? hire some thugs to defeat me and my dragons?!"
@jamesroper49524 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could bring up Mjoll the Lioness. Who can't see one of the key members of the Theives Guild standing in the market area. Mjoll the Lioness is another missed opportunity by Bethseda. They could've included her as quest giver. Who accepts the Dragonborn's help in cleaning up Riften. First by getting rid of the Thieves Guild, exposing the steward's connection to the criminal organization, by getting rid of the Black-Briar family, and more. But no instead they had us go on some meaningless task of retrieving her sword for her. So because of Bethseda's missed opportunity with Mjoll. Which reduce her to being a meaningless character. She should be treat as what she comes off as, an idiot.
@NoName-mi8js10 ай бұрын
You can marry her, take her as a follower, and then take her along to your initiation as the guild master of the thieves guild.
@CanadianBlaze1374 жыл бұрын
Maven black briar. The ONE downside to having imperials win civil war :(
@LosOjosTristes4 жыл бұрын
It's okay. Riften's a lost cause no matter which side you take.
@RustyMerc4Hire4 жыл бұрын
Nah, I've got the code to complete the Stormcloak Quest for retaking The Rift. She's not going to remain in charge for even a month in my game. She'll die after I remove her essential tag, leave the city for a while and switch it to the Stormcloaks, I'll do this towards the end of the Imperial War so they don't ask me to retake it. The Rift will be free of her corruption, stupidity, and elitism. And to make absolutely sure it ends there, her family will be next to die. CompleteQuest [Quest ID] is the code. The quest tag is CWFortSiegeFort.
@Guto_Loco_Gushek_Brasil3 жыл бұрын
The other downside is having imperials win the war.
@Guto_Loco_Gushek_Brasil3 жыл бұрын
@@RustyMerc4Hire Thanks for that, fam!
@allstargamergirl2323 жыл бұрын
If You talk to maven after the imperials win you get honeyside for free
@MarkKimberly4 жыл бұрын
I left from being tied up with a car battery hooked up to my nipples while 7 oiled up midgets were smacking me with fly swatters to watch this. It did not disappoint. Well done Avarti
@locoarticwolf21814 жыл бұрын
I Talk To My Hands And Scream At My Toes ...What?...
@LenoViburnum4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fun time you were having before jumping to this video.
@nenwar34544 жыл бұрын
One hell of a comment here, thanks
@princessbinas4 жыл бұрын
... I need brain bleach!!!
@Sigmaairav4 жыл бұрын
just lol
@Hearty11004 жыл бұрын
If the Black-Briars weren't set as essential, you could kill them. Post game, the wrong person to piss off could be the Dragonborn and no person, village, town, city and possibly kingdoms would survive the Dragonbirn.
@stormblade40214 жыл бұрын
I got a mod for Skyrim that changes Mauls name to Darth Maul.
@criticaldrive7688 Жыл бұрын
But at that point, which will you destroy? The master, or the apprentice?
@Ancienregime80904 жыл бұрын
Antagonist in Skyrim: *Exists* Avarti: "U stoopid"
@MegaAgamon3 жыл бұрын
You have to be pretty stupid to face off against a literal demigod
@HHLucifer6664 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Not a soul: Maven Black-Briar: I GOTS CONNEKSHUNS IN DA FEEVZ GILD AND DARK BRUDDAHOOD!!! Me, leader of both factions: Yah... not anymore you don’t...
@markokrstic87954 жыл бұрын
How does she have the Dark Brotherhood and the Thieves Guild in her hand when i'm in charge of both?
@williamvalorious44034 жыл бұрын
Yeah your the connection,reality is you could just cut ties(at least for the brotherhood)
@forpiepress19644 жыл бұрын
Me: the thieves guild is cutting ties with the black briars Maven : performs black sacrament to kill the guild master of the thieves guild Night Mother: Maven black briar has asked that you kys Me: I’m gonna go with no Night Mother: that’s fine didn’t want to lose my listener anyway. By the way someone has performed the black sacrament to kill maven black briar Me: smiles
@jbabylucus16414 жыл бұрын
@@forpiepress1964 just beautiful
@Macaulyn_974 жыл бұрын
Okay, so, you made a video about the Black-Briars, now someone close to them, from Riften: Jarl Laila Law-Giver.
@ItatsuMagnatsa4 жыл бұрын
Law-Giver my Ass... She's more intent on Abandoning Riften once a Dragon Attacks it, she'd sooner Run to a Private Carriage, screaming “It's best that Riften's Leader be Spared!!!” while the People who she's supposed to Protect and Govern are being Burned, Crushed, and Eaten.
@NoName-mi8js10 ай бұрын
@@ItatsuMagnatsa Yeah, this. And she is somehow ignorant that her steward is bought by more people than a toothless prostitute. And that the person she is sent to deal with the thieves guild, maven Black Briar, is in league with them.
@RichterTheRat2 жыл бұрын
I think the only reason Maven wasn't offed by the Dark Brotherhood is because of Astrid twisting the rules. Now that Astrid is dead and the Night Mother is back in charge, Maven's days are numbered.
@terrorbilly33674 жыл бұрын
i would recommend you make a video a bout tullius's genius, i mean this guy managed to sccesfully capture ulfric who possessed dragon like super powers and personal army of fanatics yet this guy is so good of a commander he manages to capture him and even can admit to mistake if you approach him in castle dour with intent of joining the empire. he sees dragonborn as resourceful and versatile in any enviroment
@steel25724 жыл бұрын
Not how it went down in my playthrough :)
@rustyjones79084 жыл бұрын
I am a true Son of Skyrim, but I respect Tullius a great deal. Sucks he serves a Thalmor puppet state and really sucks he thinks he's actually helping. I admit to abusing my CHIM powers to quicksaving then beating the stupid out of Ulfric Stormcloak then reverting to a previous save every so often.
@theghostofthomasjenkins96433 жыл бұрын
@@rustyjones7908 meh, the empire isn't as much as a puppet state as you think. the empire just isn't in a position to oppose them quite yet.
@darnunt4 жыл бұрын
Maven and Delphine are the reason I installed a mod that lets me kill essential NPCs.
@aguamenti21064 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 delphine is fine tho
@akezhantoleukhan25104 жыл бұрын
Agua Menti she's your subordinate that gives you orders, who the hell she thinks she is?
@Kat-yv1yq4 жыл бұрын
Agua Menti The Blades are sworn to follow the Dragonborn, but don’t take no for an answer about Paarthurnax...
@rustyjones79084 жыл бұрын
@@Kat-yv1yq There's a mod for that called "The Paarthurnax Dilemma". You can go back to Delphine and tell her to fuck off, you're in charge not her. You even Thu'um at her to make a point. Personally, I think once you've gotten Esbern's potion and the Dragonslayer sword you pretty much don't need the Blades anymore so it's not critical. Just finish recruiting and hunt your dragon before they find out about Paarthurnax.
@TheLatiosnlatias022 жыл бұрын
Rolf stone fist along with esbern, angenor once honored, thieves guild deserve eradication
@turkepic36374 жыл бұрын
Next : Why Todd Howard is very intelligent and you buy Skyrim again
@bjoarke4 жыл бұрын
I believe Hemming and Maven are listed as *married* in the game's code. This is why they sleep together. They are husband and wife, not mother and son.
@kaimagnus57604 жыл бұрын
Either that or The Blackbriers get all West Virginia with each other. Lol
@khaorix26674 жыл бұрын
SWEET HOME ALABAMER
@dylancasteel23854 жыл бұрын
Nope, he’s her oldest son.
@hashly85213 жыл бұрын
they changed it last minute iirc, they were supposed to be married, but changed it to mother and son, without changing more critical aspects of their relationship, but if they do incest it’s just one more reason to kill them ig
@bjoarke3 жыл бұрын
@@hashly8521 A'ight then, fair point. :-)
@mysticranger68944 жыл бұрын
New idea: WHY Avarti is an Idiot! I think after so many videos this is a classic series and we need a meta episode like all good TV shows with a cult hardcore following. I wonder if other skyrim youtubers like fudgemuppet or eso or gopher or camel works watch this series and like ' damn wish I thought of this genius idea first'
@SevereArtisan4 жыл бұрын
This idea reminds me of CinemaSins doing a video on themselves and the sins are infinite last I checked. xD
@thehiddenone88924 жыл бұрын
I never thought ingun was evil I thought she was keeping out of the way of her family because they’re evil
@oneangryboi4084 жыл бұрын
5 months late, I know. But Ingun IS evil, she just doesn't care about the political side of things to get rich. She finds poisoning people and killing them interesting, as she'll tell you herself if you ask her about her interest in alchemy. She may not be Maven, but it doesn't mean you should take a bottle of mead from her if she offers it.
@ogloc82123 жыл бұрын
@@oneangryboi408 having an interest in poisons and their affects on the human body is a little sadistic for sure but this is most likely inherited from her family and her mothers neglect. She's not evil because she knows that using her poisons on people without a real reason other than for enjoyment is wrong that's why she doesn't do it. If she wanted to she would be able to get away with it she's smart enough to make it look like she had nothing to do with is plus she's a black briar.
@tengu99594 жыл бұрын
3:35 Jokes on her! I made my character immortal with mods!
@piccoloatburgerking4 жыл бұрын
You don't need mods for that. Just type in "tgm" in console commands and it's done.
@tengu99594 жыл бұрын
I only have a PS4, though.
@piccoloatburgerking4 жыл бұрын
@@tengu9959 Oh, okay. In that case mods are the only way. Well, as little as sony allows anyway.
@poilboiler4 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention how she casually strolls around town, often alone, perfect target for anyone seeking revenge. Also she has her mansion outside of town empty except for useless mercenaries (she never visits) so it's an easy target to loot and fence everything to the thieves guild.
@vulcanitu25784 жыл бұрын
She owns Bee and Barb? So it seems like she's OK with extorting her business by the Guild while being a high rank member of the Guild. The hell?
@AnimaVox_4 жыл бұрын
I know right? That doesn't make sense. I always thought the owner was that Argonian fellow and his wife. But maybe I misunderstood.
@TheScienceguy773 жыл бұрын
@@AnimaVox_ You were right, she doesn't own the Bee and Barb, because the Argonian and his wife do.
@quandaledingle44884 жыл бұрын
Maven: *threatens me with the dark brotherhood and the thieves guild* Me, leader of the dark brotherhood, master of the thieves guild and a werewolf: bruh
@44SCB4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I've been wanting to see you do this one
@ningen77364 жыл бұрын
That Brexit analogy was so incorrect it hurt.
@TheLatiosnlatias022 жыл бұрын
UK is in deep shit and it had it coming. And as for the brexit thing, it endorses far-right shit heads namely tommy robinson, nick griffin, katie hopkins, etc... they deserve to be thrown in supermax prisons
@starwolf21344 жыл бұрын
He had to bring Brexit into this. There's enough tension in the country , please don't bring it to Skyrim. :)
@piccoloatburgerking4 жыл бұрын
Lmao did he just out himself as a remainer or what?
@starwolf21344 жыл бұрын
@@piccoloatburgerking Na im a leaver
@piccoloatburgerking4 жыл бұрын
@@starwolf2134 Ah no, i was taking about Avarti, i felt like he outed himself as a remainer. #NoDealBrexitFTW
*insane naked skooma chugging argonian carrying a sword made of demon hearts teleports around riften by shouting at 120 decibels* Maven, a fail middle aged woman with no bodyguard: I assume you're bothering me for a good reason?
@NOCTURNALARROW4 жыл бұрын
Love these videos man. Keep em comin! 😁
@MarkRoth4 жыл бұрын
Avarti why you should not do the civil war questline
@khaorix26674 жыл бұрын
Aside from the mechanics of it being awful you mean?
@machina2214 жыл бұрын
Because that would displease the Thalmor, and the Thalmor make the best sweetrolls. I would sell my soul for an Alinor pastry.
@BsideYuki4 жыл бұрын
Ngl, I find Ingun quite adorable to be absorbed into alchemy
@TheLatiosnlatias02 Жыл бұрын
Yeah right, that bitch uses animals as test subjects and you're just letting that slip
@exitpath4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! I hope your channel blows up!
@flower-yl6iw4 жыл бұрын
these videos are so satisfying i love hearing you dunk on these characters
@ProperPaladin4 жыл бұрын
I love this series keep up the good work please make videos on why General tullius is a genius or why the Empire is the best choice for skyrim or why the Stormcloaks are idiots
@aguamenti21064 жыл бұрын
Good question
@muhammedal-awadi88794 жыл бұрын
I have commented this on every XXX are idiots video and Im gonna keep doing it Please do one on General Tullius.
@TnD_BigJax3 жыл бұрын
Maven: "I'll get the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood on you!" Me, the Dragonborn: "What Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood?" **Whips out Astrid's and Brynjolf's severed heads** Maven: "Uh-oh."
@willhornsby206 Жыл бұрын
My Dragonborn who was raised by the Guild and now is Guildmaster, infiltrated the brotherhood with a fake face, killed the Emperor and the guy who put the hit on him, and then finished off the remaining Brotherhood including the Night Mother with real face: "Maven you have no power over me. I crushed the Brotherhood and run the Guild. And you are no longer our client. Sorry oh and dont bother asking anyone for help. Guards are under my control now in two ways."
@redtsun673 жыл бұрын
Anyone with money in skyrim: "don't fuck with me I've got connections" me, who kills immortal magical sky gods for a living, and wipes out entire cities for fun: "wow that's crazy"
@Gyrannon4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention her apparent connection to the Dark Brotherhood. Honestly she infuriates me. When you become Leader of both the Thieves Guild and The Dark Brotherhood, she STILL threatens you and acts like she owns you. When I had exhausted the quests to do with the Black Briars, I removed her "Essential Tag" and finally ended her. She is the ONE character in the ENTIRE Elder Scrolls Series that I hate the absolute most. Even Delphine, I see her as annoying and beyond stupid, but when I compare her to Maven Black Briar, Delphine looks like SAINT by comparison. Absolutely no one deserves to die more than Maven. I honestly feel bad for console players, they can't feel the unimaginable joy of killing that unbelievable Cunt whom I swear would make Mehrunes Dagon cringe.
@Uchiha-fi4ij2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it really sucks not being able to kill her on console. She is so infuriating
@darkmetal24124 жыл бұрын
Literally just finished a Theives Guild quest involving Maven and this video shows up Also did you just call Ingun evil? Sorry I gotta disagree with that I haven't seen one part of her action that says otherwise but that's my opinion not a big deal
@rexaxis34504 жыл бұрын
She implies her poisons she makes are used on her families' rivals.
@brann9254 жыл бұрын
@@rexaxis3450 she also experiments on animals lol
@ItatsuMagnatsa4 жыл бұрын
Ingun also says something about being apart of “Darker Circles”, so there's a huge Red Flag spanning all of Nirn and Beyond.
@jbabylucus16414 жыл бұрын
@@brann925 umm those who specialize in making medicine in today's time do the same thing.
@Asraeks4 жыл бұрын
Weird that you left out that she constantly antagonizes leader of dark brotherhood and thieves guild, organizations which she relies rather heavily on
@forgototherpassword4 жыл бұрын
Sad detail: If you do "Destroy the Dark Brotherhood," nobody in Riften seems to have any acknowledgment of it. Maven acts like they're still at her beck and call, as do the thieves' guild. You'd think the one questline that mentions them would have some kind of effect from it, but nope.
@Carter_Landis4 жыл бұрын
Is there a video on Jarl Balgruuf yet? I've always thought he was pretty dumb. "Oh, you barely survived a dragon attack at Helgen? Go help my guards and my housecarl defend my city from another dragon!" Not to mention all 3 of his children are annoying spoiled brats, and all they do is look down on the Dragonborn. He basically ignores the player's status as The Last Dragonborn (possibly not knowing enough about it or even caring). And Whiterun itself is basically an Imperial friendly city, despite Balgruuf saying "he hasn't yet chosen a side" (even though the guards walk around with Imperial bows and swords).
@aysseralwan4 жыл бұрын
Was his oldest son even a brat? I only remember him say that he'll become a great warrior or something along those lines
@robmitch40854 жыл бұрын
well to be fair he knows you all most died that is why he sent you with a lot back up. and his kids are not like that because of him you find out in a quest for him a cursed sword is messing with his kids. as for the guards well it would have took longer to make a 3rd guard type that only stayed around till he picked.
@captaincookie99253 жыл бұрын
Why send the companions? How about six guards, the house Carl and a random stranger?
@thedarkwhisper22063 жыл бұрын
Tbh, Ingun wasn't that evil. She had good the desire to be recognised for what she can do and not because of her name. But ofcourse she had that sinister philosophy, clearly running from her blood.
@AmericanAndyVODSS4 жыл бұрын
You've earned a sub from me, my friend. I've been binging your videos, these are good. Keep it up
@t.j.aarons8894 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one.
@AB-gh5be4 жыл бұрын
Sibbi didn't kill his fiancée's brother because she tried to kill him, he killed her brother because she _caught him cheating on her_ and her brother demanded answers. Svidi did nothing wrong! She's a nice lady!
@team_ribs Жыл бұрын
Did he really bring Brexit into this
@Penguinsfishing4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting a long time for this
@MattTGM4 жыл бұрын
I stumbled across these videos and I'm having a great time watching these "why (idiot) is an idiot" videos. nice work my dude
@Good_Boy_30004 жыл бұрын
What would happen if a Black-Briar and a Silver-Blood got married?
@BansheeKing224 жыл бұрын
Silver-Briar? Black-Blood? hmmm
@ItatsuMagnatsa4 жыл бұрын
You would have Black-Bloods or Silver-Briars...
@Good_Boy_30004 жыл бұрын
We're all dodging the big truth...If this were to happen, they'd team up to conquer Skyrim.
@johnpol414 жыл бұрын
Bro if everyone idiots what’s the point on playing the damm game cj
@kaimagnus57604 жыл бұрын
Not everyone are idiots. He has a small list of geniuses along with them
@johnpol414 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks for that really helpful cj
@johnpol414 жыл бұрын
I’ll have two numbers 9s a number 9 large a number 6 with extra dip a number 7 two number 45s one with cheese and a large soda
@matthewharbour62764 жыл бұрын
@@johnpol41 BIG SMOKE baby, remember the name!
@MegaAgamon4 жыл бұрын
Because it is fun? XD I mean the game was published in 2011 and it is massive with a lot of quests and dungeons to explore :) sure the NPCs aren't the brightest of the bunch but that tends to happen in open-world RPGs But with the better development of AI and chat algorithms, I assume that the intelligence of NPCs will improve as time goes on! :)
@coleozaeta63442 ай бұрын
This kind of “breakin’ balls” is a great way to end up at the bottom of Lake Honrich. I wouldn’t surprised if Bolli or someone reels in a very big catch by accident one day.
@invadersickness4 жыл бұрын
She's the only thing I regret about joining the Legion since she becomes Jarl. Though she's probably a step up from the previous one.
@oliversaunders-smith87774 жыл бұрын
...why would you bring brexit into a skyrim lore video?
@TheLatiosnlatias022 жыл бұрын
because brexit endorses far right shit heads
@princessbinas4 жыл бұрын
Farkas is a Secret Genius Please upvote
@derentius4 жыл бұрын
The Black-Briar's are essentially the Bluth's from Arrested Development
@Tobiasu4 жыл бұрын
Maven is so sure of herself because she have a degree in programing and set her status (and her family) as "Always Essencial" before Skyrim release. That's how far her conections go 😅
@rhysjenkins29474 жыл бұрын
Ya know I always come into these videos thinking, “How the hell can __ be an idiot?!” Then by the end of it I am fully convinced
@tippiebekfast4 жыл бұрын
Maven says "Be careful I have ties with the theives guild AND the dark brotherhood" and I'm like "I AM THE THEIVES GUILD AND THE DARK BROTHERHOOD"
@spoops7524 жыл бұрын
Before even watching the video, I already gave it a like. 11/10 agreement there, buddy
@brunoactis11044 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. By the way, i recommend you to read the book from Skyrim "The Bear of Markarth", i think it can counteract what you said in your video "Why Forsworns should not win"
@tonts53294 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on the Greybeards or the Dawnguard? Or if you want to focus on one person, then maybe Serana and why she is a Genius? Also maybe a video on why Odahviing and Durnehveir are Geniuses?
@fabriziocolaianni73104 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Totally didn't consider all this until just now.. lol Do a worth it to join the Imperial Legion!
@KingRitoru3644 жыл бұрын
I always just thought Ingun was morbidly curious and studious... but when you put it that way...
@rozieredz11 ай бұрын
I think Ingun is the most well-adjusted of the three. The worst that can be said about her is a morbid fascination for the darker side of alchemy. She separates herself from the rest of the Black-Briar family, she's respectful toward her teacher Elgrim and takes steps (admittedly by asking the Dragonborn for help) to make up for her used-up ingredients - she would be a more worthy successor to the family solely because she has a better sense of morality and responsibility. So she talks a little creepily about poisons. Better to have someone with an interest in poisons in a place of power than someone with Maven's arrogance and entitlement to two dangerous organizations that could ruin her if she pisses them off.
@NoName-mi8js10 ай бұрын
This.
@blacksmithcosplay7432 жыл бұрын
Now this gave me an idea for a quest mod, take control or destroy both the thieves guild and dark brotherhood, then execute maven in public for all of skyrim to see, and you get to soul trap her.