Just wait until the third one about the air Navi

I'm blue, dabba dee dabba da...

The man does love his blue tints, doesn't he?

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It’s not better it’s just as meh

"Jack, I want you to draw me like one of your blue Na'vi girls."

I said that last night after leaving. He's got that art locked down.

Say what you want about Cameron, the guy knows how to film an action spectacle. Terminator, Aliens, Terminator 2, True Lies, etc. The naval battle was pretty legit.

@@thealcohologist8624 if 2021 gave us Drinker doing a best and worst for Nolan for Tenet and 2022 is the one for cameron with Avatar 2, is 2023 giving us another one for a legacy director?

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I was disappointed they never admitted who the father was cause 13 years from now I'm not gonna remember the plot

​@@AnonYmous-mk4mmthere's no father or mother She's Grace born again with Eywa's help

@@AnonYmous-mk4mmI will at least give the film credit for having characters therein actually _discuss_ the issue, even if from a juvenile teenage perspective of "lol, I bet your dad was Norm (sorry, can’t remember that guy’s name), lmao!" But then I have to take some credit back because in the exact same scene they discuss Spider’s dad, but don’t mention his mother, which raises question about who _she_ was…

​@@AnonYmous-mk4mm My interpretation was that there isn't supposed to be a father and it's more of a "Virgin Mary had a Jesus" situation, with Eywa being the "god" that makes it happen.

They are pretty much setting her up to be Navi-Jesus who brings balance to the Force and probably ends up dying to bring the warring tribes of Humans and Navi together.

Give it credit for literally copying the same cliche story of every movie made in the last 100 years? Sure. I'd rather it have not been made at all if that were the only options.

Idiotic , boring & dumb. It is a shame on the 1st movie that was entertaining.

@@jase276 You may be right, but let's be real. It not being made was most certainly not an option because: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frOljMmEyK3Uknk.html

​@jase276 I know you hate strong father figures but hopefully one day you'll find one. It might help change your attitude.

@@jase276 Hasn't been a very used story line in the last 2 decades, wdym

@@secret5017 shutup you silly bots

I feel u bro

It is hard to be a creative writer and high on drugs at the same time.

Lemmings cannot handle any more complex story. They have no capability to discern the overwhelming plot-holes which should be seen as insulting to the viewer.

Bruh ain’t writing free? How much could that possibly cost plus it’s Cameron’s vision even if you don’t personally like it he achieved what he was going for

Amen bro

I thought "A father's job is to protect his family " is " The Message " that viewers of Drinker would want in movies. But then, looking at the comments, it seems this is too " Woke" for some people.

@@chriscorben-green2640 the logic at this point is that “woke” simply means “anything I don’t like”. The differences in the behaviors of the ultra “woke” and the anti-“woke” become less distinctive by the day.

Better than a lot of the recent Marvel movies, not a lot of the best ones from Phases 1 to 3.

A lot better than America Chavez with two mothers. And they say *I'm* a science denier.

Maybe he should have tried a little harder....

@@Real_MisterSir yeah maybe he should 😅

Bs, honestly. Him taming the beast was just a pissing contest he got goaded into by a kid, no less. And let's be honest, we knew the entire time he wasn't going to change his nature. This whole scourge was begun over his petty need for revenge, not for the betterment of mankind. Yeah, he stopped the torture alright, but then set the entire village on fire. He was always evil, Spider is just incredibly stupid for caring for him. Like, his goal is to find the Sullys and kill them, why tf is he helping him so much and acting all friendly? Then when he meets up with them again he's like "oh hey, wassup guys" like nothing happened. Then, after his childhood friend dies he still helps the guy. If anyone says 'Stockholm syndrome' I'm clocking them

He's been killed 1 1/2 times in two movies. Obviously in Part 6 he'll have his "epiphany" moment and do a Darth Vader rehab. Remember in 2053 you saw it here first!

Well, developing your character from "General Bad Guy" to "General Bad Guy but he cares for his son" isn't exactly a massive step

I noticed that too!

yeah that made no sense, the sea people also disappeared in last battle with no explanation, guess they just went home lol

@@slvrshore5300Yh 😂I was wandering were they went to

@@honuswagner9348Yh but I thought that was a different set of aliens

Because keeping Earth habitable was never their goal. The group on Pandora doesn't represent humans on Earth, they're all from that one corporation. Basically this universe's Weyland-Yutani, and they were all about bringing a live xenomorph to earth for study/weaponization and later profit. (The one line from the general about needing to subdue the natives is just that one general, and we don't have anyone else saying things different from Earth-side, and one would think the human pro-Navi staff still in this film would have some contact back home.) If you look at what the base focus is for each movie. Avatar is more of a film series against corporate profit-chasing really. The first film was all about unobtanium, meant for powering starships more cheaply/or to be sold for profit. This new film has a main focus on the anti-aging goo from the whales, which the guy said was now the main source of funding for the entire Pandora human expedition. That's just human vanity and greed. I think the main point of the overall story has been, even though humans have supposedly royally fucked up Earth with these behaviors. They still haven't learned. Plop them in any new paradise and unless their underlying motivations change, they're going to destroy any new "eden" they find or make for themselves with the same old greed for money. I'm hopeful it's some version of this where a third film, if we get one, is going, not for everyone to go all flower-child, but maybe we actually need to see more from Earthside, than this militarized corporation saying they're speaking for Earth.

@@Stothehighest "Avatar is more of a film series against corporate profit-chasing really." Lmao. I really want to know how they justify to themselves spending so much money making these movies.

The whale extract also seemed contrived, like they can create avatars but can't replicate the immortality extract? I felt they could have come up with a better reason to hunt them.

Because "Science".

Because understanding Earth ecology and all the connections is beyond our capabilities, maybe even in the future. I can compare it to Global Warming - it's in motion and it have tipping points beyond which damage would be unrecoverable or unstoppable like melting an iceberg - even when we restore the correct temperature, it will still melt, because it went down the slope and is under optimal temperature condition height. So - You can clean the the pollution, but by the time You do this life will already die or adapt, so you end up with... empty, carbonic acid tank, empty dusty wastelands. How our bioengineering is going? We have some successes with GMO, but we also have bioengineered mosquitos that was causing sterility in future generation, but it turned out that mosquito ladies somehow learned to avoid them. I think making genetic compatible species is not going to be hard to Synthetic Biology as soon as we learn how to make complex organisms, since you just build from already known principles and DNA. I'm just enthusiast, so if we have a scientist in the room, i have no problem with clearing the floor with my words if I learn something new :D

Fun answer, unfortunate that your responses are filled with bots.

@Vince Lumontad Yeah, pretty much! 🤣

"Then she turned me into a newt! ...I got better."

Quaritch coming back from the dead was really bad ass.

Quatrich to Neytiri "I owe you one death"

Its being set up to be the 3rd film, there will be 3 more of this

@@fredy2041 That we know of

Agreed.

I agree with you, it felt like 2 hours instead of 3. Also don't DM that guy lol

This, in a nutshell. It's fantastic filler, meant to be watched once, on as large a screen as you can find, and looked at as a set piece. That being said, if even a percent of the time spent on the visuals had been spent on the narrative and dialogue, it (and the first one, to be honest) could have been so much more even than they were.

Were you on ecstasy?😂

The story was bad and cliché

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Yes exactly this. We are starting to see Navi that are outright racist and are literally trying to kill one of their own. And this is just the beginning, I am excited to see what kind of immoral Navi will be shown in the next movie, but this "Navi are constantly portrayed as perfect" is and will never be the case again.

@@delimelone Compared to how the humans/villains in the movie are portrayed, the small number of flaws doesn't even compare. They are perfect conceptually, the 'flaws' presented in this movie are gone by the end when they work together with JakeSully to defeat 'The Humans' with nobility and bravery. Once again it is the same trope characterization, just with a lighter shade of blue and a different ecosystem.

What they did was attempted murder.

They were never perfect, at least in this one we don't have to wait for the extended cut. Navi were always racist and destructive to the environment, they just don't have the capacity for either that humans do in that timeline.

yes but if the movie has no story dont make it fkn 3 hours long

But just like critical said, the length makes the visuals lack substance. I saw this in imax and about an hour and a half in, I was bored of the visuals

@@LouisianaPwnsUrMom sheeple

@Fabian It did, it's a story about how reef people live or their culture, Jake's family and kids, and revenge for the old dude. I think you only think of it as simple.

I enjoy letting BOTH become background details.

Just finished watching the movie and your just right 😂it wasn’t bad though

Not surprised.

Holy shit. Your right. I didnt watch tjis movie and i probably wont but i was lookinf forward to the drinkers opinion on it!

The movies released since 2010s has made the 80s look good in comparison

@@RockSmithStudio It might go further back than that. Older movies did not have the distractions today so they could focus on the story and people, and message? what message?

Yeah, because for people who can’t think for themselves, being told what to think about something without even experiencing it is like a drug. This is why everyone should be weary of op-ed channels like the Critical Drinker. This guy literally makes a living off of telling people what they shouldn’t like months before ever experiencing it for themselves. He knows some hot take on some popular thing will keep bringing people back so they can keep being told it’s crap and it’s ruining their childhood or some shit like that.

Yeah, I can see that. We're getting away - oh no, we forgot someone, better go back x3. But then again, as an ADHD person, just leaving the house I end up going back and forth multiole times as I keep forgetting things XD and with so many family members in the middle of a frantic battle, I could believe it XD

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Yh, and the daughters got captured non-stop

Yes, and Jake & Neytiri are freaking out when WATER - the thing they spent the entire movie learning to adapt to - slowly sinks the ship. Don't they have like 20 minutes before they need air? Did they learn nothing? The ending would make more sense if Jake's entire family watched Quaritch drown while mouthing the words "Way of the WATER, BEaaatch!". Man, this film annoyed the crap out of me.

The boat is sinking. Get back to the boat

Ok, but it's still bad. The only reason they brought him back was because the actor that played the colonel was damn cool and easily and by far the most charismatic character in the first movie. So they tought they'd do ctrl-c ctrl-v for the second movie, only that they didn't realize that in his navi form he's just another elongated smurf just like everyone else and has zero stand out traits and charisma. Oh and there's also the big plot hole of them trying to portay his death as a big deal, when they can literally implant his consciousness into an infinite number of navis, so why would one of the copies dying be a big deal.

Did you shake your head slowly in despair after that? Knowledge really is a burden. If only everyone could see through all the lies and distractions the way keen-eyed hawks like yourself can, we could've had better stories. Alas, the world is full of sheep who can't see the truth, so we'll keep getting garbage like this film 😔😔 so sad 😔😔😔

FYI, those are the names of EVERY parent's kids.

cringe plot fan vs based visuals enjoyer

@@Golemoid Brainless visual NPC vs cultured critical thinker

@@nom6758my brother in Christ it’s a visual medium. Not saying the plot and screenplay aren’t crucial, but what separates a film from a book is the ability to lose yourself in the moving images you see on a screen.

And had a kid out of wedlock with Linda Hamilton, who isn't innocent either.

by you logic George R.R. Martin shouldnt be writting game of thrones since he never ride a dragon or been to Westeros haha

@@papi-sauce that is different. He isn't preaching a hypocritical message when he can't get his own shit together.

@@connordorman117 Doesn't necessarily mean it's hypocritical. He might feel more strongly about emphasising the importance of family precisely because he's seen the effects of family breakdown, even if he was the cause of them. A warning about the dangers of alcohol or drug abuse is no less sincere when it comes from someone who's been an addict - "Don't make the same mistakes as me" can be a powerful message when it's done right (I haven't seen the film so I don't know how it comes across in this case).

@@trolleriffic that would be more believable if he had broken down 1 or even two family units but down to 5 and it is just absurd.

Cameron made Terminator and Aliens I dont care how many terrible movies he does after I am just thankful for those 2. Bad movies are just like traffic noise at this point

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that's way too much. it's 5-6 at most, visuals we're pretty and pacing not bad but that's all. the story was filled with pretty much every cliché from bad guys missing every cliché to bad guy making stupid decisions over and over

"A father protects hia family" as supposed to what

The perfect pacing has been done already. You should check out the Fellowship of the Ring.

@@Obese_Pterodactyl Indeed although I meant in the context of longer movies becoming mainstream, not just exceptions like the pinnacle of modern cinema that is LOTR.

" in search of an identity" would have been nice to actually see that and have it organically integrated into the story. instead we have him loving life and getting on with the Na'Vi like he's one of them except for Neytiri for some reason who is a massive racist still even though she married and had kids with a human. then he teaches the people trying to kill his family how to fly.

@@heliopyre Right? Tarzan did such a better job with Kerchak and the tribe treating him as an outsider. I also totally understand it just from a "heroic" standpoint, it's the "right" thing to do and from a "now we are even" point of view too because he saved him. That being said I would not be chill with Jake's family because his wife threatened to kill me, spider is most likely just a dipshit.

Peter-pan/Hook relation trying to be portrayed here, do you think ?

exactly. I told my sister I hated he decided to save him in the end and she replied "yeah, but he was raised by good people, so he did the right thing" .

I agree, it felt like despite not wanting to he started to see father figure in him during their journey. They both affected each other in the way they themselfes would not expect.

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I wouldn’t call him a good father, he lets his kids run off constantly and abandons his tribe leaving them leaderless to go put another tribe in danger…

Same, yeah the hippy environmentalist angle felt like something out of the nineties, but it was refreshing to see a flawed, but "strong enough" father in Jake Sully who tried his best for his family.

i enjoyed it too, some people are just too critical about movies, it entertained me and i escaped to another world for 3 hours, it got flaws yes but what movie doesn't.

You exaggerate I always see it in media

Dude I totally agree. That's the only scene that I actually watched back after the movie ended. So sick.

James Cameron is oddly better at writing women. Even though overall his writing is on the cheese and actionhero-y side.

Frrr

Its not a movie, its a cartoon

That's what they want, they want you to be ok with mediocrity. Don't give them your money for lazy attempts at making a story.

I actually quite enjoyed the movie. The visuals were stunning and the robotics used by the human population were extremely interesting to see. I had a good time.

@@piotrwillow6440 fuck off, cartoons are way better than most modern cinema nowadays

He almost did the same thing for Duel Of Fates. Too many yesmen and a big ego.

"I may have gone too far in a few places..." said James Cameron never.

@secret5017 The secret of air frying potatoes? What the hell?

I see where people called prequels self indulgent but honestly kinda on long reflection, I think Lucas deserved to have some crazy characters or ideas too. Some of his plot ideas where ass but random crap like 50s diners with alien line chefs speaking in Brooklyn accents are funny to me now.

@@patrioticcat5768 Was "Duel of the Fates" going to be "The Rise of Skywalker"? Lucas had nothing to do with that one.

Still want to know why they gave him a hokey American accent when his Australian counterpart got to remain Australian. My guess is that to foreign ears Australian and NZ accents are the same. To my ears I can tell the difference, like when some of the child Na’vi extra slip back into their NZ accents, lmao.

The movie isn't an intellectual one, but people are having a hard time connecting all the different nuances and just say MoViE bAd! Colonel showed Spyder that he cared about him in the last act, so Spyder returned the favor. Simple as that. People want a unique story and then get mad when characters do unexpected but understandable things. Edit: I think people are also forgetting that Colonel is the one that let Spyder out of the interrogation room and back into the forest. Spyder was also impressed at his father's ability to wrangle the flying creature without a harness or a muzzle, so Spyder clearly has some respect for his father. Those two moments alone served as pseudo-bonding moments between them. Far more interesting than a cliche bonding moment between father and son.

@@alexanderkempf9828 the movie blows

Just imagine how f***** the family dynamic is with that ending though. Natiri constantly treats spyder like trash and then holds a knife to his throat all for the human people to leave and act like none of that happened? Dude he’s gotta have a family dynamic where his adopted mother hates him and adopted father only loves him because he feels bad for him.

I’m putting way too much thought into this whole spyder living with natiri thing now. James Cameron obviously didn’t.

@J they’re making it real easy for spyder to grow up and be the avatars version of the joker. Almost makes me feel as if spyder would’ve been better off with the colonel.

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i don't think it was too long, the thing went by in a fly

The Pacifier was funny though, but I hear ya. #kaosnova

Yeah it was good to see a classic Family again. It so diluted in cinema and shows nowadays. Felt refreshing for it to just... Be... Even though it was long me and my girlfriend literally didn't feel the length. It was so good! She usually falls asleep at every movie we watch 🙄 but this was engaging and epic throughout

@@benjamynhazelton1162 "Even though it was long me and my girlfriend literally didn't feel the length." - phrasing?

Yeah, I agree with you on this...burning all that forest was unnecessary, however, I thought the ships thrust used as brakes to slow down in space was awesome. Quite realistic, more so than in most other SF movies.

I think the thrust burning the forest is realistic especially when we know primary succession will colonize the already damaged land, it's not something that was intentional but it needed to happen

It makes sense if you want to cultivate the land and make farm land

I just LOL'd and had to pause.

Ye it thats what i thought too, or that naitiri just could have killed the colonel from the back instead of taking spider

That whale should have waited until the hostage exchange was complete before starting the attack, too.

Quaritch hates Sully, but he still has a remaining moral character. He sees Jake as a traitor who must die, but he gets more and more moral qualms, especially seeing his own son among them.

So many people do not get Quarich. He's a Marine colonel. That means merciless to the ENEMY but a protector to those who need protection. He has honor and duty. He doe not let FEELINGS get in the way; but duty does not compel killing children. They might die anyway as collateral damage.

Additionally, in the last act why is it just the Sully family against Quarich? What happened to the like 80+ sea people that were already fighting that same battle earlier? Literally there was no mention of them, what they were doing, or why they left the Sully family to fight their own battle. Lazy writing.

Same, Jake is basically a selfish traitor to Humanity who forced the conflict in the first film, through his inaction and preoccupation with Neytiri.

@@primeradiant827 so true, humans are the best

@@lightningboltt5437 I'm not entirely sure what way you mean that, but not really in the movie. They were a step up from cartoon villains overall. It's just kinda contrived how things turned out and it was basically down to Jake's selfishness.

@@primeradiant827 Looks like we have found another Miles Quaritch here.

@@rayunited2010foryou If it means saving Humanity, sure thing Jake.

As I was reading your comment he literally was saying what you wrote at the same time 😂😂😂

He didn’t do nothing. Just sometimes things happen. You are looking too much into it.

@@MasterBlaster3545 it's so obvious that he did something, that your comment is just sad.

That was so clever, I tipped my fedora to that line. Definitely gonna use that one, bc of how clever it was.

I SEA what you did there Fixed it for ya

I think it’s setup for the later movie(s) but yeah that was kinda crazy to not cover such a terrifying moment for him

How would he eat with the mask on, it was said that humans can breathe 10 seconds on Pandora

@@bijacz9679 I'm pretty sure they can be outside for more than 10 seconds.

There is a prequel comic called Avatar: High Ground which goes a bit deeper into Spider's childhood/lineage. The long and short of it is that Neytiri was *never* really onboard with adopting Spider, she was never his mother and he never even referred to her as such instead calling her Mrs.Sully. So the developments in the movie shouldn't be at all surprising to him as she has treated him coldly 8/10 times that he knew her. If anything he should've been apprehensive to begin with.

Spider is to Jon Snow as the mother is to Catelyn Stark.

don't think this guy is sober when he watches movies, he always has a few errors in each review.

It still doesn't make any sense. He needs an infinite stache of oxygen tanks to be able to breathe, and apparently no respirator ever broke on him in 15 years despite him spending his time being a bad charicature of Tarzan.

Everytime SpiderBoy spoke, I went out of the immersion of the movie. Just like how Hermione pulls you out of the immersion every time she speaks in the Harry Potter movies.

Yeah, the lack of improvement in technology broke my suspension of disbelief. Especially the windshields. They waited close to 20 years to come back and seems less prepared than before. Only their bigger number is making up for it.

@@davidlacoste Yeah, you’d especially think, after the events of the first movie, the military would make arrow proof glass. Especially if they were doing something as important as preserving the human race. Not to mention that the humans have these crazy advanced mech suits, but seem to have forgotten about things like predator drones that can bomb the cat people clear from the upper atmosphere.

@@youknowwhoelsecantthinkofagood The insurgents are hiding in the Hallelujah mountains, where compasses don't work, and where the alien life attacks anything human which enters.

Actually curious, what is so bad about armored trains?

@@Denominov Easy to derail. Very easy to derail.

Yep. Both Avatar movies were all about the cutting edge technology on display, with the story in third place behind making a neat world. Avatar has a mediocre at best story, but it was all about the spectacle of insanely new CGI and a cool world on display.

@p o p I don't like clicking on link if I don't know what it is. So, what's back?

That’s a backhanded compliment, if you are so hurt by the concept, why talk about the film at all? Why enjoy the visuals? Wtf is wrong with you?

@@ThatRPGuywithtoomanyOCs Not really, the emotional through line of the story worked really well.

The scenes at the start of the ships landing and burning the forest were incredible.

I'm glad this piss poor excuse of a criticism of the movie's themes, character dynamics and world building didn't discorage you from having an interest in experiencing the movie and form your own criticism of it, hope you do enjoy it for what it is and the more subtle messages reach your conscious so that you can come out of the theater with an appreciation for the amazing planet we inhabit and for the concept of family and community, which in my opinion was done very well, the movie does have issues however the pros are more than the cons and possibly with the third installment of the franchise there's going to be more exploration and nuance of the less explored or poorly executed aspects of this movie. (Sorry for typing such a long comment 😅)

@@veganjotaro shhh you’re not supposed to say that now people are gonna act like you commit war crimes for defending the movie.

​@@veganjotaro the movie sucked😂

The problem is, despite the extra time for developing characters, they don't really do anything with it...

@@jiji7250 the story is about as bad and cliché as it gets, get a clue

Ain’t worth it, then. Time is non-renewable.

So you are saying I should watch it at home using a VR headset and the IMAX app right? Much cheaper than going to an IMAX cinema for sure

Yeah I found myself checking the time as well, I do feel the second act could have been shorter.

I agree on your last part, checking the time or having the urge to check the mobile phone for something interesting was definetely the case. I must sadly admit that I was not fascinated enough by the visuals and sound to stay entertained in cinema. I get the point that many say it may be the only way to watch this movie, but it made me so angry (due to the length, that was unnecessary) that I stick to the opinion that this movie is not a must-watch

I would in Imax

Could have made a fortune in YA novels 😂

Dude, a Disney plus show about the adventures of Jake and Neytiri over that 10 year gap would have been perfect to get us interested and vested into the characters. A lot of the issues with the plot of the movies would have been overlooked on Disney plus

Like literally any fantasy video game ever

Or ... gone onto KZfaq and blathered endlessly on it for 13 years! "James' BlueYarn VodCast!"

@@owyemen9367 It really does remind me of the plummet in quality the Final Fantasy series took. "Look at how pretty 13 is!" "Yeah, but I have no choices to make, little control, an auto-pilot, and terrible characters."

talk about a non-equivalency Maybe people can stop watching episodes whenever they want, but don't want to sit through a 3-hour nothingburget with cliché generic story?

🤡 try again

Jake had to learn the hard way to not trust the water tribe, they're the ones that convinced the fire nation to attack the air temple in the first place.🙃

The fire nation attacked them

Good observation

Along with the deus ex whale who was just chilling until the boat compeletely sank instead of helping our heroes escape it. But yes, exactly my thoughts. Although I wouldn't call the final combat scene "epic" per se. "Video game" would be a more accurate description: They stealth their way through the sinking boat, all enemies they kill die without a sound or reaction from their pals, the "thoughest soldiers of the army" who made but the evil Avatars fell just as easily as any human grunt both here and back in the jungle, and everybody conveniently walked by the fact that most humans on the boat were whalers, not actual soldiers, against an ex-marine and his amazon wife who are both 3 times as big and strong as a human. Even Quarich didn't put up that much of a fight. And literally none of the native people except the plot device son were killed in the final battle. In this regard Cameron was braver in the first Avatar movie, where the casualties mounted on both sides and the humans actually came pretty close to winning until mother nature showed up. Here it's just two people with a disproportionate advantage in combat killing essentially working class people and a few soldiers who are useless anyway.

Thats another point! Half if not most of the humans were fisherman?!? Like i get they were kinda hijacked by the small military group. But after a certain point wouldn’t the whalers draw s line. “No mr giant blue man, i will not chase innocent native children in my crab suit ???” Or “hey we are under attack by 50 native people, and all we have harpoons and fishing poles, im going to leave now and/or surrender. Im not a soldier” But nope. Theyr shooting concussion bombs at 15 yr old kids?!?! The fishermen were! Not the soldiers!!

Yeah the green "I see you" chick never has a wardrobe malfunction. Way hotter than any human basic bitch woman

Indeed, maybe sticky nipple covers

Maybe they're like little pasties that stick on 😂

Honestly, if my adopted mom threatened to kill me without hesitation in front of the rest of my adopted family, and the only one who begged her to stop was my bio dad, I would've done the same thing. Only difference being I wouldn't have run back to them.

@@samiamtheman7379 it would be nice if he actually went with his dad

Sorry, but that's a stretch I'm just not willing to go along with. The story in this movie was terrible, and Spider saving Quaritch at the end was silly and stupid that only made it worse.

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@@eturn23 Quaritch saved Spider's life just a few minutes earlier, so Spider saved his in return. Makes sense to me.

@Secret bro, holy shit that's the best thing I've ever seen!

So toska3528 and secret0517 are the same person and spamming how to make fries. I like the fact that I can queue a video (stupid air fryer potato wedges) and then remove it so I never have to watch the stupid thing.

The whole theatre laughed by the third time ong. In fact, the theatre laughed way more than it should've lmfao Actually. It was enjoyable, cause the "contrivances" (as he puts it) are so comedic at times If you go into it being serious you're not gonna have a good time. But I really enjoyed the movie, even with the sometimes silly plot

@@CYXNIGHT It's a movie that isn't out to say much besides having an environmental side message about taking care of nature. Which is exactly why I enjoyed the first and second one because it is just a simple, fun entertaining movie where you can just turn your brain off. If I want a complex movie I wouldn't go to James Cameron to look for one. :P

Everything in this movie was a trope done poorly. Like 20 tropes crammed into one

This must be your first movie like... ever.

@@annieleonhart464 the concept of something being enjoyable must be entirely new to you

Hollywood is in dire need of a carpet bombing.

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Also the Abyss is similar in that regard imo

@@randomly_random_0 while I don't think it's necessarily complex (also no one stated that it was lol) I don't think it's nostalgia making that film so good - objectively, it really is good; the atmosphere, the action, the theme, the set pieces - all quality that still hold up to today

@@randomly_random_0 Dude the alien universe shits on avatar lol

That's exactly how you should be describing The Terminator, the original and best one.

Water good this time. Jim is smart.

@@paulhsu1481 fr

"War bad. Home good. Nice story, Tolkien". "Dictatorship bad. Revolution good. Nice story, Lucas". "Atheism bad. Faith good. Nice story, Lewis". See, I can do it with everything. Hail nigilism!

Well, you're not wrong. Military are bad , and trees are good :D.

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p At least Tolkien's point is kinda hard to disagree with imo

Mike would know about people being dumb. He's the single dumbest human on the planet, to the point that his followers have subhuman intellect.

He was a genius.

The modern film for a modern audience. Is entertainment just not worthy of artistic talent anymore, rather dumbed down and simplified for the average consumer? The trend says yes, and few directors are willing to make a film that respects an audiences' intelligence and uses visuals to tell the story instead of constant exposition.

@@SilverShadow02 and then they call ist and phobe when the insult they call a movie flops. Becuase personal accountability is hard, you know?

Mr. Plinkett came to mind while watching this. Glad I'm not alone in this.

He’s extremely one dimensional honestly

@@aygwm Jake Sully? I’d have to disagree, I think there’s more to him than people give credit, but he’s not the most complex character either. There’s nothing wrong with a simple character. Some of people’s favourite characters are relatively simple all things considered. The terminator, Rambo, Batman, these characters in both concept and in action are rather one dimensional, but they’re still good characters

That would be such a predictable and generic arc I could see Cameron patting himself on the back for being so genius to think of it.

@@t.b.cont. Did you have a stroke and forget everything about Rambo and Batman? Neither one is as one dimensional as Jake Sully; he's such a placeholder it's not even funny. Every single aspect of his character is as bland as possible. "I want legs again." Gets legs. "I don't want to be cartoonishly evil." Becomes the "white savior" trope while in blueface casually murdering all his former colleagues. "I love and protect my family." Proceeds to love and protect his family. We don't even get him acknowledging that humanity is fucking doomed without Pandora because "Nah, I'm blue now. Fuck the people who had the bad luck not to be born the right species for me to care." He never sees his dead twin brother in the spirit tree or has any lasting internal conflict over leaving the tree people to fend off the military "They got this, that guys like a leader and stuff, there's no way they'll die horribly or fail to come together under an untested Chief." He monologued as he potentially dooms them all so he can hide in "Definitely not Samoa." He is a cardboard cutout that someone paid millions of dollars to hire and took 13 years to write nothing interesting for.

I can see him going native. There was all the stuff about learning the language and bonding with the flying monster. I bet he makes out with that tree at some point.

Yeah just like elon musk trying to colonise us on Mars where we can't live without space suits, right?

I assume he just carried the same logic from LV-426 in atmospheric processing, but not bothering to explain how....

@@chaitanya737No, not the same. We are not fighting against aliens while also trying to colonize a planet we can’t breathe on. Also, we don’t have to deal with a living sentient planet (plant) unlike in the movies.

Terraforming!

Its free real estate, don't question it.

His best movie involved Arnold saying like 50 total words which were just dated catchphrases that contribute nothing to the plot. He makes revolutionary looking movies for the time which blow audiences away. Why i hated avatar 2. Cartoon cgi was terrible.

So The Avatar movies are movies? Cause you described everything that movies need… He might be better off making a VR game instead.

What personality did the queen exactly had? Trying to kill Ripley? Laying down eggs? Anything else? You are just trying to be funny or something buddy... Or you just try to ride the cool "hating Avatar" wave. In the first Avatar the humans had different personalities. Sure, it's not GoT or Godfather or whatever you like, but they did.

Butthurt Avatar fan is butthurt.

@@janmajer4662 ah yes, personalities such as The Woman soldier #1 or Soldier avatar #2, of course honourable mention to the Corporate Manager #1 from scene 10 or the Weird Heroine Fiance that has alot of fanfiction written about

@@janmajer4662 Care for her soldiers, her eggs, conflict on whether or not to endanger her life to go after Ripley or stay back and just count her loses

@@janmajer4662 You kidding? Despite being a giant, biomechanical insectoid with no eyes but a lot of fangs and claws, you could tell that she was a mother caring for her offspring: Ripley even managed to threaten her by simply pointing a flamethrower to ONE of her many eggs. And she let out a giant scream every time one her drones got blown to pieces. That's a lot of personality for what was supposed to be a movie monster.

You can get your fix from Paul Joseph Watson now that he's started ripping it off.

@@dianashepherd3241 Jermaine Clements' character? Nah. Jake Sully himself is Cameron's self insert avatar.

Please tell us the character resembled Anthony Fauci? Please let this be true!!

They killed the crass Aussie actor, and saved his Kiwi sidekick. Lol

That part where he mocked the whaler saying "who has the harpoon now" was actually mind boggling to me... HELLO you are on the same ship, why are you mocking the guy who is fighting the whale thats trying to kill you all?

@@luryknadel Yeah, worst character in the movie. Way worse than Spider. Grace in the first movie knew that her research was funded by the mining work, but it was much more morally gray than this whaling operation. (By the way, Japan, Norway and Canada still do whaling, but they do it for the meat.)

That’s honestly the best take I’ve heard

Once I was sitting there, I finished it, but I wouldn't see it again. I saw the first one 4 or 5 times in the theater.

Probably because, depending on food and drinks and the tickets themselves, you don't want to say you felt like you wasted spending close to 50 dollars, maybe more.

I want to go and see it in a space-themed new cinema where I live. But... your take left me confused. How can something be boring yet wonderful? How can it make you sleep, yet you love it?

I doubt I'd be glad to see it.

Spider-Man was not in this movie

I would chime in with my opinion but I just can’t bring myself to watch a $250million dollar cartoon. Sorry guys.

they all seemed to ignore that fact that natiri or what ever just threatend to kill spider and looked crazy enough todo it.... Seems alot got added in last min. Also visualy seemed like alot of effort was put into the first 10-20 min then they gave up on quality control after that. Seems very rushed. For me nothing happened in this film.... for an ocean full of life it seemed barron and didnt spend alot of time. Would have made more sense for the humans to have comeback but tried mineing underwater and the goal being to stop destroying the ocean enviroment not stop them fishing.....

The first Avatar film, (the one from 2008,) is so woke, that even Mike Stoklasa pointed out as Mr Plinkett

Hmm, tough choice. On the one hand, you have your family who adopted you that you've known for over a dozen years that love you and only ever killed the bad guys. Or The bad guys, one of whom just happens to be your birth father... kind of.

colonel dickhead lol

I’mma??💁

I haven’t been to a movie since End Game. 😂

Same here.

Fucking hell, uh... i.. think it's the same for me. I've just been watching series this whole time man.. Can't even remember the last time i watched a movie online this year.... if any..

Well, I actually saw this one and was bored af. But yeah all those shit shows like hulk woman or whatever it is called. I can't bring myself to watch it, but I love watch it burn with drinker commentary on top of that. Like his reviews are actually more entertaining that most of those shows.

good one

Yeah this movie is just ripe with anti-human agenda. Which is very odd. They could have easily chosen a non human antagonist.

nuclear aftermath...

Everytime I see an arrow go through a canopy i just go 'what' modern day canopies can ping a 50cal shot. Yet a big whale can ping an explpsive tipped harpoon. Come on james.

​@@mediocreman2 anti human? Seemed more anti-corporation again. They had humans in both movies that were represented as "good"

I think a lot of his criticism is valid if this was a standalone movie, but I agree with almost everything you said. The middle is needed to raise the stakes and have the eldest son die actually MEAN something. It also led to Jake's realization that he cannot just run and hide, he needs to fight to defend his family. The whole movie was development of the world, raising the stakes with him needing to protect his family, and Jake learning that he cannot run from his problems, he needs to fight. I am really excited for Avatar 3.

Silly’s kids don’t have characters. “It was genuinely sad when the oldest child died.” What was his name? And don’t look it up either. Colonel quarritch was a good guy and did nothing wrong.

@Chaplin Crabtree mothafucka I barely remembered how Sully was called if it wasn't for your comment. I have a life and other things to remember. At the time of watching the film I 100% would have remembered. And even I didn't, so what? How many times you were introduced to someone for the first time, hanged out, and then you forgot their name? It doesn't mean the person was insignificant.

Jake was demoted to a side character in this movie. He is there to let the plot move forward. But the actual protagonists, the kids, have nothing to speak of in terms of character except the tropes we have seen done a billion times. You got the bully, you got the one who wants to rebel to not stand someone else's shadow, you got the big bro looking out for his lil bro, you got the kid who feels different and isolated .... and that's pretty much the extend of everything they contribute with to the story. Think about it. I was able to accurately sumarize 4 characters in a single sentence that can be read in 10 seconds. That is an issue. A massive issue. None of them have depth, everything is surface level fluff. We don't ever see internal struggle portrayed, we only see the shallow surface level actions they take based on the supposed inner issues we're told to believe. Show, don't tell. That's the 101 of cinema, yet this movie does the exact opposite. It doesn't flesh out the important details about any character, it just quickly introduces the themes and immediately jumps to their actions instead of their reasoning for said action. I never felt invested in any of their characters, I felt like a spectator just sitting on school ground observing the daily acts of random kids. Nothing out of the ordinary, everything predictable, everything surface level. Cameron just isn't very good with deep/intricate character portrayal, just is what it is. Everyone in the movie is 2 dimensional no matter their importance to the story.

The middle was ruined by having the Na'vi literally just be humans. A species that's so big on harmony and respecting life and one another, why are there shit bullies? They didn't need to include his kids being bullied, so uninspired. It would have been enough for the kids to shun Sully's kids until they proved they can carry their own weight.

And it's weird because writers can do or say anything they want. They didn't need to say that babies can't be put in cryosleep, they only said that because they wanted the Spider character to exist. So I agree, it begs the question of why? They're trying to insert a father/son dynamic for the villain, but the villain is dead and doesn't have a son. So what should we do now? Magic retcon bullshit go!

@@broco1163 The fact that the villain is dead but still has feelings for his son is way more interesting than just a father/son dynamic. It leaves room for betrayal and ambiguity. The baby cryosleep thing doesn't "raise questions". It's just a detail they added in. People try so hard to hate this movie, it's weird.

So the mask grew with his skull?

@@alexanderkempf9828 I had a few quips with the movie, like why did the water tribe disappear mid end battle. i didnt like how smart the whales were nor how they could understand sign language... although they did mention how smart they were in the movie. I also didnt like how one of them all of sudden had the power to control nature around her.... but overall i did like the movie. I'd even watch it again.

@@bunny_the_lifeguard9789 what?

Finally! A logical person!

There's A LOT of truth to the environmental angle of the movie. People just don't want to face it

You're definitely a conservative. Never met one that fully believes in environmentalism.

@@digitaldruglord1815 LOL that humans are bad and Navi are noble savages?

@@ophanimangel3143 ayyy there you go but I do have a feeling that James will explore the darker side of the Na'vi in future films

At first I was going to give the benefit of the doubt but then I remembered that ship was going down why didn't the rest of them come to help then

Yes this was my biggest problem with the movie and definitely the most obvious plothole. The leader of the Samoan Navi even said they wanted to kill all the people on that boat, but then they just disappeared before that happened?

@@FamousDave2186 Everyone I saw the movie with thought the same thing it was a huge oversight

The CGI team was limited due to the low amount of the aqua blue color left for the other Na'vis so they could not put them in more scenes.

Cameron said he deleted 10 mins of gun violence in that movie. I assume that's the scenes where the remaining Metkayina tribe was murdered by the RDA

Wow wow wow.... wow.

Getting excited for Pitch Meetings and Drinker reviews is tight.

Getting more excited for Pitch Meetings and Drinkers Review than I do for the actual movies is tight!

Super easy! Barely an inconvenience.

Same here. Listening to reviews about the movie are better than watching the movie itself

I mean they already have a good hook in the fact earth is fucked and Pandora is the only habital planet they know they can reach. That already is a good morally complex scenario, Yes they do evil but if it is necessery for humanities survival then what else are they suppose to do? That should be focused on as humanities reason for evil rather then just plain greed. It is boring when such a simple reason repeats.

@@antonakesson You don't need to mine a habital planet. It's a rock, go search asteroids.

They do have those scenes. Like Trudy refusing to shoot the Navi or Hammond looking devastated by the tree being destroyed.

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p It was not about mining that i meant but to live on the planet. As said in the movie, Earth is fucked and humanity needs a new home.

I missread that "Master Chief" part as Master Chef and instantly imagined Gordon Ramsay fighting against Na´vi

And by giant armoured whales.

Well to be fair we some European expedition did get kick of island by the natives in the past….but then again such expedition crew didn’t had automatic weapon, assault helicopter and mechsuits they just had shitty muskets and we’re probably extremely tired of their sea travel . (And then again the one that got beaten were the explorer , if a country decided to send a regiment of soldier then the native tended to get beaten quite easily .)

It would be hard to fight a bunch of giants with guns who came swinging out of the trees

@@alexandergreene461 so the extinction of the dodos was NOT due to the colonial invaders?

Yeah that was weird. The Naavi in the first movie were out manned and out gunned, and had to use a mix of human and tribal tech and tactics to defeat the humans. It was really dire. In this movie, the naavi seemed to be in no danger whatsoever, and everytime they run into humans, they absolutely smoke them. The stakes were shockingly low, which is fine in a vacuum, but in the context of the first movie it just shouldn’t be that way. We have tech NOW that could defeat the Naavi, let alone 150 years in the future. Somehow humans can stop aging, and clone themselves, but they still use boats with gas powered engines lol.