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Terminator: Woke Fate: "I'll be back." Terminator fans: "We won't."

Sarah Connor; "I'll be back" Terminator Fans; "We won't!*

"Generic teenage girl" "Androgynous thing" "Apple genius" made me LOL hard

Terminator: Metal. Terminator 2: Liquid Metal. Terminator Dark Fate: Gender fluid.

All of a sudden, Terminator 3 doesn't seem like such a bad movie...

When they were marketing this the director smugly announced that this movie would “terrify” men instantly alienating a large portion of their audience. Genius.

The most ridiculous part of this movies is how Dani became the leader of the resistance in the future not because she shows latent talent in the present or has good leadership skills. But because she told a really motivating speech to some scavengers.

Terminator, Predator, Aliens, Star Wars, Ghostbusters....remember the fallen.

The worst part was when Sarah downplayed her own role to referring to herself as just a womb to some man who saves humanity. They seem to forget what Kyle said in terminator: it was a chance to meet the legend, Sarah Connor. Taught her son to fight, organize. To prepare him when he was just a kid. When you went in hiding before the war. James Cameron must be suffering from alzeimers since he allowed this continuity error on screen. Sarah wasn't just some incubator of a messiah. She was the one that made John into a warrior with her guidance.

God I loved Vasquez in Aliens: "Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?" "No, have you?" And her delivery was just right on the money. A great character and a great performance from Jenette Goldstein.

When Schwarzenegger said “I’ll be back” I felt excited and looked forward to him coming back. When Linda Hamilton said “I’ll be back”, I wanted to reply by saying “take your time” or “it’s okay I got this, you don’t need to”

"There's gonna be spoilers." Can't spoil what's already rotten.

When they killed John Connor you know its gonna sucks so hard.

I STILL get chills during T2, when Sarah gets her first glimpse of what she thinks is the original terminator. Her response is so perfectly done- all that terror, frustration, and exhaustion in one sound and 2 seconds of action.

Now i understand why skynet wanted to destroy humanity in judgement day...

Ethic person✔ Strong female lead✔ LGBTQ✔ Nostalgia ✔ 2019 movies

So is 2019 the 'destroy every franchise ever' year?

"female dick weaving to establish who's the stronger strong female character" - This one had me dead 😂

I miss the universe Salvation built. So many stories could have been told.

I love how he never calls the characters by their names.

Sarah Connor never had to say, "I'm gonna stand and fight!" as an indicator of her character arc. Didn't have to.

I'd truly be unable to imagine a terminator more dangerous than T1000. He was a legitimately scary, and had an amazing way about with the way he interacts with people not on his kill list. He shown charisma in talking to bystanders, but the second he spots the target, he just tears after them.

The main issue I have with this film is the termination of John Connor. John Connor is one of the most important characters in the history of film and it was a really bad idea just to kill him off. Imagine if George Lucas killed off Luke Skywalker in The Empire Strikes Back. The Return of the Jedi would be a useless film. You can't kill off important characters in a film if you want to keep the franchise going. When I saw that opening scene where John gets killed I thought to myself: They just killed the legendary character John Connor and ousted him from the franchise like he didn't exist. However, I did love the action scenes, the character Grace, Mackenzie did a great job, and that's about it. One character and actions scenes doesn't make a movie great. It seems like they tried to make this film be on the level of Terminator 2 Judgement Day. and failed drastically. As you saw in the film they had references to T2. The playground scene at the end, the T-800 sacrificing himself at the end while Dani and Sarah stand above, and several other scenes.

“Don’t Watch if you don’t want spoilers.” Nah I’m good man, go ahead, don’t wanna watch the actual film anyway.

They killed off John Connor for two reasons: He was a man, and so that the generic teenage girl could take his place as a female John Connor.

I finally watched this, as it was free on Film 4. It was awful as I was expecting, but that scene where they find Arnie, enjoying a ball game with a beer?! I was like: "oh right, this is a comedy?" I didn't even make it to the end of the film. I gave up when they were driving that air tight Hummer round underwater. FFS.

Robert Patrick's portrayal of the T-1000 was flawless but it is a myth that the T-1000 never blinked. He actually blinks in 2 scenes. The first is when he is questioning the foster parents and the second is when says "say, that's a nice bike" after the Pescadero break-out. He is trying to be as human as possible in those scenes so there is a reason for it. That's me just being a nerd, lol.

I just pretend everything ended with T2.

Edit: Just met Robert Patrick at Indiana Comic Con, showed him this comment, and he confirmed everything, adding he caught up to the dirt bike on the first take and they subsequently had to increase its speed from 13 to 15 mph. He appreciated the comments and replies and autographed my T-1000 photo with “Call to John.” I am giddy. Apparently, Robert Patrick independently trained for his role as the T-1000 to not show fatigue while running. I read somewhere he did extensive cardio on his own to build up his stamina so his character's chase scenes would look as effortless as possible. I often fall victim to looking upon the past with rose-tinted glasses, but goddammit, who does that for a role anymore?

James Cameron "toxic masculinity is a problem" Also James Cameron - "All my female characters exhibit the traits of toxic masculinity"

I still can't believe how they've managed to destroy such a badass universe of movie potential they had here. First 2 movies were perfect, after that, WTF happened again and again.

I didn't even see the movie and I still want a refund. 😑

James Cameron: "I don't like Alien³ because the writers killed my characters right in the beginning" Also james Cameron: "Let's start the next Terminator movie with the murder of John Conner"

The 'Kick Ass Marine" actress (Janette Goldstein) given as an example of how to play a strong female character (Vasquez in Aliens) just so happened to also be in Terminator 2 as John's Adoptive Mum.

One of our reviewers called it "Feminator" for the strong female characters. Also, teaching the John Connor replacement girl to shoot was hilarious. "It is all in your mind".

you misheard Sara ...she did not say "I'll be back" she said "Ow , my back" honest mistake

-'Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man?' -'No, have you?'

So sad watching my beloved favorite classics get destroyed by "The Message"

18:00 He didn't manifest a gun into his hand. He had the gun in his hand and he made the paper back out of his liquid metal to hide it. He used his liquid metal abilities to make it look like he was holding a paper back while he was holding the gun which was inside the paper bag. That was a great use of his liquid metal properties.

*Terminator 3 doesn't seem so bad now, does it?*

"Granny Conner, Dora the explorer, and the LGBT-1000" as one wise man said...

wow. Gladi I didn't waste my time on that one. Funny you mentioned Jenette Goldstein as "Vasquez" in "Aliens." i was surprised to find that she also played John's mother in T2.

Cameron has very good instincts but he's a gambler (meaning his style is that he doesn't know how to not take huge risks) and he paints with bold colors. When he does that and it works, it works extremely well and he comes off as a genius. But sooner or later, risk taking comes back to bite you.

Funny how John Connor who could hack ATMs in his teens (showing his potential with machines) was replaced by an older character showing no potential or charisma as a leader.

Herminator: Come with me Juanita Connor, if you want to subvert the patriarchy

My favorite part of the movie is how the transport plane is broken into two pieces (with very different trajectories), a vehicle falls out (with a parachute), and a couple of terminators. Despite traveling across a vast area at great speed, not only do all of the parts/contents of the plane happen to land within 100 yards of each other, but they happen to land on the Hoover Dam.... Not just near the Hoover Dam, but actually the parachuted Humvee lands directly on the Hoover Dam (pretty much dead center on the span as well). I'm willing to give some leeway and suspend my disbelief to some degree, but this is about the most distracting sequence since the Fast and the Furious 6's endless runway fight where the sequence rolled out at very high speeds for 13+ minutes. That's one, very long, straight runway. Over 5 times the longest runway in the world. It's amazing how really bad this movie is, even from a mindless action movie aspect.

I've seen the original Terminator movie so many times that I could tell just by the electricity surge noise of the T-800 being crushed by Sarah Conner in the clip at the end of the video, that it was the remastered movie clip as opposed to the original. I loved Terminator 1, 2, and found the third installment tolerable because I liked the end. Judgment Day being inevitable and Arnold leading John Conner to a safe bunker to ride out the nuclear war without him knowing was a great twist in my opinion. Everything since has been trash. I had high hopes for Salvation as it took place during the war and Christian Bale playing John Conner seemed like a plus. That plot set up was the movie I wanted to see made since I was a kid who saw Terminator 2 in the theater. I was legitimately pissed off leaving the theater after Salvation, what a fucking dud. Now we get gender fluid terminators and southern border allegory. What a nonsensical cash grab this franchise has become.

*John Connor dies* Fanbase: Ight Imma head out

This crap just makes you realize how amazing T2 was.

I love how you kept showing clips from the other Terminator movies that mirrored Dark Fate, but were so much better!!! I was laughing so hard at that!!!

A Terminator retiring and getting an ordinary human life after completing its mission was a Robot Chicken plot XD

I love how "androgynous thing" and "generic teenage girl" perfectly and completely discribe the two characters.

Movies today have a different purpose than entertainment.

OMG the 10:14 mark that has the laugh track meme is so perfect. I was laughing before that popped on. Then I laughed harder! I'm glad I never saw a Terminator movie after T3.

10:04 "I'm gonna Stand and Fiiiiight" - LMFAO.... I can't stop laughing at that part.

The ending of T2 was perfect. Nothing after that exists.

Generic teenage girl....who's actually 33.

They terminated the terminator movies from the fans who actually love the first and second movies.

I just love the unbridled ferocity with which the Drinker goes at it, culminating in the grim bottom line at 19:48 Much darker than the actual movie

Rip Terminator James Bond - You're next.

I didn't know Hillary Clinton and Justin Bieber had lead roles in this film.

I remembered having high hopes for this movie, I thought Linda Hamilton would bring back some sense to this franchise, dunno why I thought that when not even Arnold could achieve such lofty goal.

Is it even possible Hollywood put something original out at this point? Is there anything left that hasn't been ruined?

"I need your clothes, your boots and your menstrual cycle" Mexican fate: hasta la vista franchise.

The feminist agenda in this movie disgusts me. There's a line by Grace when she's telling Dani "you're not the mother of some man who saves us" - yeah because that was such a terrible thing in the original Terminator movie wasn't it!

18:22 I think the head tilt is a throwback to Michael Myers in Halloween. Great video man!

Edward Furlong has a checkered past. The filmmakers sort of did him a favor bringing him back for this film. However, they also humiliated him by killing him off without a line of dialogue. Still, he needed the money, I'm sure.

John Conner is terminated less than a minute into this film, that’s all the reason any fan needs to not even bother with this and to put it bluntly it’s TLJ of the Terminator Saga.

I turned this movie on, watched the first ten minutes and shut it off. Killing the main character for the single purpose of replacing him with a female version of him is the worst writing I’ve ever heard.

The T2 Arnold sacrificed himself because there was a second chip which can be used to develop SkyNet. He learned to be more human throughout the movie and at the end wanted to cry, but his body just wasn't equipped to do it. At least that's what the 11-year-old me saw in that movie and I've kept seeing it since. I'm not trying to defend this new movie, just saying the way I saw T2.

6:15 That sequence of screams.....I AM CRYING over here! 🤣

I love the fact that these feminist woke movies are so empowering for women that even women avoid them like the plague. Well done SJW Hollywood.

so the females are good and the guy is bad? Who saw that coming in 2019?

It’s a good thing the franchise ended with a T2 with its ending all wrapped up in a nice little bow. I’ve seen all of these. And how are they continuing to get worse and worse? And wait isn’t Linda Hamilton, Sarah Fucking Connor enough of a strong female character?

Hiya Drinker❕🥃🥃🥃🥃 Thanks for the entertaining discourse, it's a good one! Love it when you deconstruct stuff like this cos you got Narrative Flair. (Meaning you make the delivery fking interesting) Enjoyed yr appraisal of Django Unhinged cos it was on point and sharp. P.S. ma fave tipple are Lemmys ( J.Daniels+ coke) -And Talisker chaserz. The bad robot is the same actor in Marvel's Agents of SHIELD who plays Ghost Rider. . .

Feminist Hollywood: “Men suck” 10 minutes later: “Let’s make a movie where girls act like men”

when john died the only other person in the theatre shouted "bruh"

That a terminator could lead a "normal" life after completing its mission, flies in the face of what was established in T2. They're sent as "read only" by Skynet so it would only carry its program. Most probably it would've self-destructed. Dark Fate really shat on the entire Terminator franchise.

There's one huge plothole in the whole concept of Terminator Dark Fate: if they didn't have to save John Connor, because in case of his death someone else will take his place as future resistance leader (Dani Ramos), why really bother to save any future leader? If terminator would kill Dani, then another resistance leader would emerge and take her place :-D

It’s bizarre that the filmmakers seemed to think that they needed to remake/reimagine Terminator as female-centric when the original two already *were* female-centric; Sarah Conner was the clear protagonist and is the reason why the good guys win in both movies. So obviously the new filmmakers just had a problem with the concept of her doing things for the sake of someone else, namely protecting her child. Wow, what an awful motive for a character.....

The story was finished after T2 its that simple.

Vasquez from Aliens 2 still gives me a chub. How she got herself so ripped then looked completely different in T2 is mindblowing. Women that are real badasses are hot but when they look hot too.... Damn

Of course they have to kill John off within the first couple of minutes. That's the filmmakers saying; "This is our franchise now. It's now all about girl power". They have to destroy your heroes and replace them with their own.

Hollywood's romance with feminism is slowly killing the quality of movies

“I’ll be back.” “Part time.”

It sucks that nowadays every big cinema IP is just milking the original creation to cash in on nostalgia or worse they just use it because it’s already laid the groundwork of becoming popular so the hype of its continuation pretty much runs itself along with having a massive fan base that will definitely go see it simply because it’s got the name of the original stamped on it. So, they already have a mass of fans who will pay money to see it simply because of the name. This in itself isn’t a good thing for creativity, in my opinion, because of how much the IP is already loved there less chance of real effort being put forth to make a truly provocative film. There’s probably enough substance to this subject to make a case study about how and why everything made recently is crappy and derivative while things in the past are groundbreaking and inspiring.

One of my favourite authors, Neal Asher, had a script credit for this film. I think it would have been the human hybrid's abilities being only available in short bursts/causing damage thing, that's an Asher trope.

"I cannot self destruct... I must find a wife and never let her touch me..."

"Undo everything people loved" seems to be the core of all this sequels to old beloved classics these days.

The first two she got her ass kicked and barely made it out. Sarah earned those victories but now they just passed them out.

I wanted to walk out when they killed John Conner but when they decided to go full-on let's pretend the greatest sci-fi of all time never happened I actually said "you bastards" out-loud in the cinema.

"I'll be back." Feel free to just not.

We need "Go away now" and "Nah, it'll be fine" shirts.

Hey Drinker? You are hands down, the best and wittiest writer on the Tube! Are you having as much fun as it sounds like?

I didn’t even watch this movie and I’m a massive fan of the first 2 just watched this review/critic it’s all I needed to hear and see on the matter cheers drinker saved me 2 hours of my time

Terminator 2019: "Talk to the hand... ... because I identify as an arm"

This is one of the worst films I’ve ever not seen

I greatly appreciate you stomaching the worst that Hollywood has to produce for us these days. On the flip, you enjoy movies as much as I do & would love to hear your take on Children of Men, a movie on the very very short list of my top of all time.