History of The Red Lotus (Legend of Korra)

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2 жыл бұрын

Here’s a video of the origin of the Red lotus and why we think this is the most dominate villain group in the avatarverse. We can all relate that when harmonic convergence hit in book 3 of TLOK, nobody anticipated that we would get an entirely new villain group and also new Airbenders! Tell us your opinion on the Red Lotus in the comments below. Also don’t forget to share our video it helps the channel grow :)
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@benjaminbierley2074
@benjaminbierley2074 2 жыл бұрын
Something that strikes me about the "villains" in LoK is that with the exception of Unalaq her villains have more and more of a valid point over the supposed "good guys". Amon while wildly misguided in his approach did have a fair point about the imbalance between benders and non-benders, Zaheer while an anarchist had even more of a fair argument that the Earth Kingdom queen was corrupt and needed to be taken out, and finally, Kuvira had so much of a point in what she was doing that the writers had to MAKE her go full Hitler in order justify her being the villain at all...despite her actions being in response to the world government brazenly trying to install a puppet monarch over the nation she had spent years fighting to pull back from the brink, only to see them try to take it BACK into a monarchy which got them into the mess in the first place...and lets not even get started on her mentor abdicating responsibility in helping rebuild the nation, putting Kuvira in a moral position in which she felt she had to do SOMETHING
@ironcz6679
@ironcz6679 2 жыл бұрын
Unalaq too had some good points regarding imbalance between spirits and humans and regarding all mistakes of Wan, including closing the spirit portals, though he didn't necessarily need to team up with Vaatu to become Dark Avatar and throw world into 10k years of hell. He prove to be a good teacher to Korra by teaching her a technique of making evil spirit go away in peace, which she as an Avatar definitely had to know. I don't really know why is the 2nd season of LoK so much spat on, it kind of felt to me as more continuation than unexplained increase in numbers of airbenders that was used as establishing point for season 3 + 4 (like, Korra had to learn at some point to do stuff with spirits, as Aang was in contrast to her one of the more spiritual Avatars). Even though I agree that Zaheer and Kuvira kind of had some points as well (not speaking of Amon, because I think we can agree on S1 being good way to immediately continue the story with new Avatar that has to learn airbending)
@goldlight1322
@goldlight1322 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Korra’s villains are easily one the show’s strongpoints; they’re extremists and need to be stopped, but still force the heroes to stop and reevaluate their own world views.
@benjaminbierley2074
@benjaminbierley2074 Жыл бұрын
@@goldlight1322 It really makes me wish the writing team didn't end up getting jerked around by the studio, it was clear they had solid ideas and stories, that ended up getting blunted by the studio constantly changing how many seasons they had...first, it was short, then they wanted more, then they wanted less back and forth which jacked up the stories all to hell cause it wasn't even a case of knowing if they would get renewed or not and more they didn't know if the rug would be pulled out from under them again with the studio moving the goal post.
@nscrclan5110
@nscrclan5110 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminbierley2074 for me the real reason Lok floped was cause Arron ehasz did not return to the Lok to write it
@carlocumino824
@carlocumino824 Жыл бұрын
@@ironcz6679 Wan sealed beacause an opening portal could mean another battle against Vaatu. It was not a mistake from this point of view, especially beacuse spirits are not native of the human world
@RedRaikou
@RedRaikou 2 жыл бұрын
Zaheer was my favorite character because although a villain he made great points, he was skilled, achieved what no one else did since Lahima (to fly would be a dream come true for me btw) and then he even helped Korra not only enter the Spirit World but also get over of what he himself did to her and he doesn't even hold a grudge over losing. PS: Ghazan was also pretty cool
@Prince-Shogun
@Prince-Shogun 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@Blejzak
@Blejzak 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention he dated a hot girl, that was taller than him.
@nexusshark
@nexusshark 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blejzak Speaking of which, both Combusion Benders we've seen so far are pretty tall
@bigpapagorge9667
@bigpapagorge9667 2 жыл бұрын
did you not see how much suffering his childish anarchistic ideals caused
@RedRaikou
@RedRaikou 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigpapagorge9667 Oh I'm sorry did the VILLAIN do something bad? I didn't think he would...
@---rg3jh
@---rg3jh Жыл бұрын
That fight between Tenzin and The Red Lotus will always be always one of the best fights in the Avatar universe
@waffles8639
@waffles8639 Жыл бұрын
tenzin rly is a strong airbender
@simonmarcu01
@simonmarcu01 Жыл бұрын
I want a battle between Toph and Red Lotus. Toph is one of the most broken and op characters.
@lesiuiuur123
@lesiuiuur123 9 ай бұрын
​@@simonmarcu01ghazan kinda has levarage over toph, she can't really see lava and sand but again toph is stupidly powerful
@JimHarbaugh-eh1dj
@JimHarbaugh-eh1dj 6 ай бұрын
@@simonmarcu01 Zaheer with flight will beat every character in the original show except Aang in the avatar state. He'd have to poison Aang to beat him
@EmmaFriday02
@EmmaFriday02 4 ай бұрын
If Tenzin alone can outmatch Zaheer how much more would Aang. Aang don't need the Avatar state to defeat all of them. P'LI however could be tough but he will still get the job done
@ElCactus7567
@ElCactus7567 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else here want to see a mini series about the Red Lotus Gang? It would be a good way to flesh them out more and would be cool to see more of them in general.
@cosmicvoidtree
@cosmicvoidtree 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking the same thing. The thumbnail made me think of the idea. The four should get each get an episode of their own.
@Allie882
@Allie882 2 жыл бұрын
No really. I really want to see what would happen if kora was raised by the red lotus but then joins the white lotus
@broomhilder
@broomhilder 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes, and more importantly, yes
@Haikal-fn5wb
@Haikal-fn5wb 2 жыл бұрын
no
@TommiHonkonen
@TommiHonkonen 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen a spin off of spin off be good? Neither have I.
@zane2540
@zane2540 2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t like history more like a recap of what happened I was hoping to like get actual history on the red lotus history such as their past how they came to be how they met how they how they discovered their unique bending how the girl lost her arms y’know lore
@tombstone4908
@tombstone4908 2 жыл бұрын
same for me
@Valiregirl82
@Valiregirl82 2 жыл бұрын
Well the thumbnail was super misleading
@ExelArts
@ExelArts 2 жыл бұрын
Ya same the photo in the videos thumbnail made me think that.
@jonathan13co
@jonathan13co 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if the title was changed, but currently it's "history of the red lotus" and I can't really understand how you inferred from this the contents will include the life stories of 4 specific members of the order and not, as literally described in the title, the origin and purpose of the order itself. Also, there's no detailed information of their private lives, especially not to such detail such as how ming hua lost her arms. They probably met through the organization and were among the high-raking members. (similarly to the white lotus).
@hinatashoyo1748
@hinatashoyo1748 2 жыл бұрын
The creators actually revealed that Ming-Hua was born without arms which is why she’s so good at using water as arms. Ming-Hua using waterbending as arms is like us picking up a pencil and writing.
@smittywerben1849
@smittywerben1849 2 жыл бұрын
Amon was the best villain in LoK. He introduced a different kind of fear in the series and was the perfect boogeyman for Korra since she values her bending ability a lot. Only reason Zahir was the one that gave her PTSD is that he was the closest to killing her.
@evgeniblanchard675
@evgeniblanchard675 Жыл бұрын
Also the whole "i dominate you" vader style.
@Awesomesus._.
@Awesomesus._. Жыл бұрын
Boogey man zombie Amon
@MomoAfterDark
@MomoAfterDark Жыл бұрын
Lol no. Amon had no personality and is barely memorable. The mystery aspect gave it its power not the character itself. Zaheer is literally one of the best written characters in all of Avatar
@edsonururu5592
@edsonururu5592 Жыл бұрын
I was also afraid of Amon
@Moccalocca100
@Moccalocca100 11 ай бұрын
I think amon would win against zaheer. But zaheer was pretty cool too
@Snyphen356
@Snyphen356 Жыл бұрын
Zaheer's attachment to P'Li Was his last earthly tether.
@keithrobben1183
@keithrobben1183 9 ай бұрын
Wait whaaaaaattt??? No waaayyyy???
@goom3103
@goom3103 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if korra was trained by the red lotus, strongest avatar ever I'd say
@hertzy2004
@hertzy2004 Жыл бұрын
Actually someone wrote a fanfiction about it and its damn great! It's called 'The Original Nature of the Heart'. Too bad its discontinued...
@BigMoneyChao
@BigMoneyChao Жыл бұрын
doubt it Avatar Kyoshi still stepping on shit
@wingandwang5634
@wingandwang5634 7 ай бұрын
​@@hertzy2004where was the fanfic uploaded
@AmarZion
@AmarZion 6 ай бұрын
She already is
@AmarZion
@AmarZion 6 ай бұрын
@@BigMoneyChaono she isn’t she’s overrrated
@xtentasticx
@xtentasticx Жыл бұрын
If LOK had more time to write, the Red Lotus secret organization would have been an awesome overarching plot of the seasons. Would have been awesome seeing all the connections and foreshadows, each villain being a member of the red lotus until it came down to the final four who had only survived because they were imprisoned the entire time.
@skipr5811
@skipr5811 9 ай бұрын
If they didn't have different beliefs, the Red Lotus would have been great friends and teachers for Korra. I think if they did manage to kidnap and raise her, they'd genuinely care for her like a daughter or little sister instead of just using her.
@tofu_golem
@tofu_golem 2 жыл бұрын
Zaheer is the greatest villain in the entire franchise, and one of the best villains in science fiction/fantasy. His ideology was wrong, but he really believed in it, and did not violate his own code just for plot convenience.
@redlotus3978
@redlotus3978 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! 😎
@aldosariad6831
@aldosariad6831 2 жыл бұрын
Ozai
@itsamire858
@itsamire858 2 жыл бұрын
He killed sokka
@baihaqinuramani2366
@baihaqinuramani2366 2 жыл бұрын
Nahh zaheer sucks ass,he was an idiot and will always be
@jimfleece2880
@jimfleece2880 2 жыл бұрын
How was his idealogy wrong ? All ideologies are subjective
@dunderthunder9858
@dunderthunder9858 Жыл бұрын
The idea of an evil airbender is already pretty cool and then it's made even cooler that he's still reverent enough to learn sacred rites
@Nightengale90
@Nightengale90 2 жыл бұрын
The Red Lotus are my favorite Villains! I could watch or read a whole series about them! Ghazan is my second favorite Avatar character! Ming Hua was my second favorite of the group. Ghazan, Ming Hua, Zaheer and P'li were all so unique! I'd love to know WAY more about their lives before capture! The bits of info we got fascinated me and left me begging for more! I liked the hints of romance between Ghazan and Ming Hua. The love P'li and Zaheer shared was very interesting too!
@user-hi7rn1mn4y
@user-hi7rn1mn4y 27 күн бұрын
I love how all the red lotus members were different benders. zaheer is an airbender, ghazan is an earthbender, ming-hua is a waterbender, and p’li is a firebender.
@CharlieBrown20XD6
@CharlieBrown20XD6 Жыл бұрын
I heard a rumor that originally these guys were responsible for killing Sooka. Which means he died protecting Korra
@AvatarDiscussions
@AvatarDiscussions Жыл бұрын
Il have a video dropping this week on it
@mranima748
@mranima748 2 ай бұрын
There is literally no evidence for that but ok.
@kittygirl0872
@kittygirl0872 2 ай бұрын
​@@mranima748 it's a cool theory tho
@CrazyDudeCopper
@CrazyDudeCopper 2 жыл бұрын
Why did they look so cute when they were children ;-;
@Kanamo4781
@Kanamo4781 2 жыл бұрын
it's like looking at young german generations just before ww2 , they became nazi and killed a lot of people but where such cute children back in time, just too bad they had to grow with such influences...
@shinobustan6290
@shinobustan6290 2 жыл бұрын
Fr, ming hua is the cutest
@shinobustan6290
@shinobustan6290 2 жыл бұрын
@@ixya.3724 LOL
@GRIMLOCK07
@GRIMLOCK07 2 жыл бұрын
Alot of different species will look "So Cute" when they're kids. Heck, even a Baby Crocodile will look "So Cute". Still Doesn't mean it won't Kill & Eat You. Same Goes for Alot of Humans. Some of the Worst People in History were probably "So Cute" as kids.
@zekeshreffler8016
@zekeshreffler8016 Жыл бұрын
I like how all of the villains are more interesting than the main character
@AvatarDiscussions
@AvatarDiscussions Жыл бұрын
In TLOK definitely!
@edtgv5884
@edtgv5884 Жыл бұрын
Avatar The last Airbender main characters peak. Avatar legend of Korra villains peak
@shumanbeans
@shumanbeans 9 ай бұрын
Nah Korra was great too. The new "team avatar" however...
@briuiwnw7229nurjwnqoaakne
@briuiwnw7229nurjwnqoaakne 9 ай бұрын
@@shumanbeansngl those 3 felt like they were only in the show because the creators thought they needed side protaganists
@raeldri5867
@raeldri5867 8 ай бұрын
I feel they had more liberty to do what they wanted with them, while the heroes they had to make them similar to the OG
@NaatClark
@NaatClark Жыл бұрын
Amon and Zaheer were both right when you think about it. In a world with benders and non-benders there will always be a class difference. The Avatar knows how to bend energy to grant or remove bending from people but won't share the knowledge in the modern age leading to people either being born in the cool benders club or no and being stuck that way for life. Then you find out the spirit world being split from the material world and people(aside from the Avatar) losing the power to bend energy and having to be born benders was the choice of the first Avatar. Ending the cycle is the only course that allows the rest of humanity to move forward
@TheCreoleSon89
@TheCreoleSon89 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, there were rich non-benders and poor benders. Seems most kings/rulers in the earth kingdom were non benders. Not so much in the fire nation lol 😂
@coolchrisable
@coolchrisable 2 ай бұрын
@@TheCreoleSon89 add on that non benders did have ways of dealing with benders like chi blocking and being alot more into training their bodies and being specialists like mai and tia lee
@NimsHell
@NimsHell 9 ай бұрын
I love the lok villians, but my favourite has gotta be ming hua mainly based on her design, the idea of her being a very powerful waterbender despite not having arms is very badass, its one of the reasons toph was my favourite in the last airbender, she was super powerful despite being blind and she turned what most would consider a weakness into an advantage, cool as fuck
@TheArtInterviews
@TheArtInterviews Жыл бұрын
To me, the Red Lotus is the coolest thing to ever happen in the Avatar world
@AvatarDiscussions
@AvatarDiscussions Жыл бұрын
I agree! That was the highlight of tlok
@astroman0500
@astroman0500 6 ай бұрын
PArt of the reason why Zaheer was so perfectly done in the series was because od Henry Rollins' wonderful job as a voice actor. If I'm not mistaken, he's an anarchist in real life, and through his views and political activism he really did understood the character of Zaheer and managed to put all of his intensity and passion into the character. I'm so glad they chose Henry for that roll and that we got to experience such and amazing season in Korra.
@VisuallyMediocre
@VisuallyMediocre Жыл бұрын
Fun part for Zaheer. You can quote him saying 'the red lotus would be your elemental masters'. Zaheer was going to be her master of Air. He didnt ass pull all the powers. He knew them from the start he just didnt have air bending just the forms and spirit powers. Korra had many faults but people who said this was an ass pull just didnt pay atention.
@anotherdimension9116
@anotherdimension9116 2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see a what if of if the red lotus was successful in the kidnapping of little Korra. Just think of how different the world we know would be
@kezhiahnebula
@kezhiahnebula 11 ай бұрын
Peaceful
@rkbelmont1138
@rkbelmont1138 2 жыл бұрын
Korra series has many flaws. But the villains specially Amon and Red Lotus were awesome.
@Sunznt-fp5ub
@Sunznt-fp5ub 8 ай бұрын
Amon and Red lotus have flaws too.
@TalhaAnsar-pc2lw
@TalhaAnsar-pc2lw 5 ай бұрын
​@@Sunznt-fp5ubYup
@E4Pants92
@E4Pants92 Жыл бұрын
Would actually love to see the fight with Zuko, Sokka, Tonraq, and Tenzin vs the Red Lotus gang!
@Hash_kw
@Hash_kw 2 ай бұрын
Sokka died in that fight
@mranima748
@mranima748 2 ай бұрын
@@Hash_kw No he didnt
@devontedamoi
@devontedamoi 4 ай бұрын
The thumbnail reawakens some emotions seeing the red lotus so young I remember my dayz watching this so much season 3 is my favorite
@zuroku4159
@zuroku4159 Жыл бұрын
Pov: you thought he was gonna tell us the past of Zaheer, P'li, Ghazan and Ming-yua.
@akiwiidiot6821
@akiwiidiot6821 2 жыл бұрын
Ok but if zaheer could enter the spirit world why didn’t he consult iroh? I mean iroh was just as much a diplomat between spirits and humans as the avatar if not more.
@JacrepidYT
@JacrepidYT 2 жыл бұрын
What good would seeing iroh someone he's against do though
@kittycatkyla2344
@kittycatkyla2344 2 жыл бұрын
Because Iroh was a white lotus and the whole point of the red lotus is that they were disgusted that the WL came out of hiding and became the Avatar's bodyguard. Consulting Iroh, although a good idea, would go against what the RL stood for.
@churrgee3675
@churrgee3675 2 жыл бұрын
Damn son , you really are an idiot 😂
@KaiserReb
@KaiserReb 2 жыл бұрын
diplomat more than the avatar? where yall get this head canon from. He's not even above the most average air nomad in the spirits
@Rjlamar-yr3pt
@Rjlamar-yr3pt 11 ай бұрын
​@kittycatkyla2344 the red lotus has nothing in common with the white lotus and doesn't like the white lotus
@xrather7735
@xrather7735 2 жыл бұрын
Zehir is my favorite caracter of all the "bad guys". I think he could be a really good/helpfull person and i really understand his motivations! Its only really unfortunately he made a bad choise by trying to kill all te leaders...
@icesoul17z
@icesoul17z 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think the original goal of raising the avatar and reversing the actions on Won would have been a better plan. Hell, even trying to contact and convince/teach Korra could have gone more in their favor.
@ErutaniaRose
@ErutaniaRose 2 жыл бұрын
Ya. Basically, great ideas ideologically and the want to help the general population--but the ways in which he went about doing that were...not great.
@bluecoil8356
@bluecoil8356 Жыл бұрын
Dude, Zehir is a homm 5 protagonist, this one is called Zaheer :)
@ashhabimran239
@ashhabimran239 3 ай бұрын
Toph and Ming Hua, now that's 2 characters whose disability doesn't stop them from being complete badasses
@brothaNblue
@brothaNblue 2 жыл бұрын
Man I thought we were gonna get new information about the Red Lotus, not a recap of Season 3.
@AnuUatu
@AnuUatu Жыл бұрын
The order of the red lotus could actually be a way of introducing a subplot into Both ATLA and LOK that would be in my opinion immensely intriguing. I however heavily dislike the origins of the group simply bc it lacks depth, and it starts with Xia Bau. Ok so he’s a defect from the OWL but that’s it? Yet Zaheer had an obsession with Guru Lahima…but Xia Bau has a grove dedicated to him in the spirit world…hmmm here’s my theory and while it may be a little far fetched hear me out: Xia Bau isnt the true originator of the red lotus. Guru Lahima is. When wan visited the air nomads on the back of their flying turtle, they asked rava why she was without vatuu, something the air benders knew as they are in contact with the spirits more than any other nation. It could very well be possible that the air nomads didn’t totally agree with wan becoming the avatar and what’s more closing the spirit portals. This could have caused a splintering in the teachings of the air nation over time, while you have the air nation that established their loyalty to the avatar you can also have those in the air nation that would have seen it as hypocritical to their teaching to attach their loyalty, and it could have been that loyalty that caused them to FORGET how to fly…until LAHIMA, whose views and teachings weren’t widely accepted by the air nation bc of the anarchy it would intimately cause…in the air nation FIRST. Too many avatars and too many invents proceeding the 100 year war that give the Red lotus to form right under the nose of the white lotus. It’s just my honest opinion that the red lotus forming AFTER gives it little to feed off and completely contradicts itself when the leader of the group is the student of an airbending anarchist who existed AGES before this group was even formed. I truly hope that Guru Lahima gets his own story…but what would be crazy is if he somehow gets mention in the new Yang Chen novel.
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 Жыл бұрын
These guys deserved two seasons
@janvidilmika3155
@janvidilmika3155 10 күн бұрын
The thumbnail of this video is so adorable Especially ming hua ,she looks so precious
@bigj1905
@bigj1905 Жыл бұрын
I personally never understood why they decided to kill The Avatar completely. Doing so wouldn’t cause chaos, instead, it probably would’ve united the world against them and their ideals. I think it would’ve simply been better if they stuck to their original and plan and just killed Korra, then kidnapped the next reincarnation of the Avatar.
@NorthForkFisherman
@NorthForkFisherman Жыл бұрын
The whole point was to drive out Raava so it could re-unite with Vaatu, thereby re-establishing the actual balance that existed before Wan interfered with creation. To do that, they had to kill her in the Avatar state.
@mrsteamedbun9467
@mrsteamedbun9467 2 жыл бұрын
The air bending zaheer used on the earth queen should be called breathbending
@kkdias9924
@kkdias9924 2 жыл бұрын
i dont think so because its just one specific move not even a style, eg. Under water we have ice bending which can be used in different ways to make ice spears, ice shields, ice typhoons, blizzards, etc. Ice bending is a sub style under water bending, whereas in this situation all you can do is asphyxiate a person. There is an imbalance with air as it is potrayed as the weakest of the 4 without any real offensive abilities or even sub bending. Air has only flying and astral projection which is flying as a ghost. and fartbending, which is kind of a joke. I hope air in the future is shown with a little more power as so far its shown that air ios only used in defensive or evasive maneuvers aka to run away, which is kinda pathetic.
@zonastarwars4397
@zonastarwars4397 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, that was more air bending than anything else. All the other air benders just bend wind.
@tylermech66
@tylermech66 2 жыл бұрын
@@kkdias9924 It sort of speaks to how the air nomads developed, due to their lack of easily lethal moves by single people. while yes, air can be an incredibly devastating element, as is shown with literally any form of storm, the power needed to create such devastation is usually too much for a single person to be reasonably expected to do, bar the avatar. So it is either adopt a more pacifistic society to evade rather than attack, or really double down on group tactics to work together in creating massive storms. there is a reason they chose air for the pacifistic monk civilization.
@kkdias9924
@kkdias9924 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylermech66 I agree that kinda sucks, even as you mention a storm of wind would still not be as lethal as say a storm of fire, sharp ice crystals, water typhoon, lightning storms, or sand storms, would be nice if they air had some other type of bending added to it like light/shadow bending, or kinetic bending- kinda like telekinesis to control all objects themselves rather than controlling an element eg.air, earth to move an object from one point in space to another, or Dimension bending, creating portals by sending part or your whole body to other dimension which can be used to defend yourself against any attack essentially kinda like obito from naruto, etc. would be kinda cool.
@justt1984
@justt1984 Жыл бұрын
That’s lame asl bruh
@royalobasi1938
@royalobasi1938 Жыл бұрын
Korra was at her best in S3, from what we've seen in S1 she learned how to airbend, ok, S2 she was a giant spiritual battle suit, okay, S4 she was getting her ass kicked by kuvira but it worked out in the end, okay, Although she almost got finished by zaheer, she made real difficult and it was a close fight, she lost her edge cuz she lost her cool giving zaheer an opening to almost get the job done. S3 Korra was so scary, even Korra was traumatized, Damn
@laurenbonner2393
@laurenbonner2393 2 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think the Red Lotus were the best LoK villains because they were enjoyable in the same way Ozai's Angels were in the original series: they felt human at some points.
@bjorn19
@bjorn19 8 ай бұрын
I think the reason why the Red Lotus didn't kill Tenzin when they had him surrounded was because Zaheer genuinely respected him.
@isaiahdean424
@isaiahdean424 6 ай бұрын
that and Zaheer had a genuine love for the airbenders and wouldn't want to off a master
@JimHarbaugh-eh1dj
@JimHarbaugh-eh1dj 6 ай бұрын
No, it was because he could use him as leverage to get Korra to sacrifice herself
@chidosan2639
@chidosan2639 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like zaheer was the best villain in the series because the series respected his character, he had his point of view, beliefs, skills and never seemed to be out of character, even if he's a villain, it's never really treated like the kind of villain that you MUST despise or love, it manages to make him, somehow, respectable and with respectable I dont mean he shouldn't be in prison, I mean that you cant really critique that much his beliefs
@sanzharzaitenov5268
@sanzharzaitenov5268 9 ай бұрын
Amon was right
@gregjones9901
@gregjones9901 2 ай бұрын
Zaheer had an amazing design when he was locked up with the rags and long hair. I'm thinking the real reason they penned in the shaving was so they didn't have to animate all that hair in those fights haha
@yonipoabaty7456
@yonipoabaty7456 Ай бұрын
Best season of the show.😍 those characters were so cool. 🤩Funny thing is the combustion bending which is at the same time so powerful and so weak😅
@rischio7678
@rischio7678 3 ай бұрын
The red lotus deserve its own series.
@hachi666roku
@hachi666roku 2 ай бұрын
I’m down to see the “pre lotus kids” prequel to LOK - they all have a rough time, find each other, be there for each other and after a tragic loss of the 5th friend to an unjust ruler, Zaheer changes. After the mourning of their friend, become the Red Lotus. Because as radical as the Red Lotus, no one showed cowardice, they died facing their foes, there was no real terrorism or lying. Also that Thumbnail is very wholesome and got my interest
@iamabread9614
@iamabread9614 2 жыл бұрын
Man Zaheer was already ahead of the tall queens gang. Gotta respect him for that.
@ronjaravenbell9663
@ronjaravenbell9663 2 жыл бұрын
Red lotus will always be my favorite villans in legend of korra. All members are strong and Zaheers point of view wasent completly wrong. Zaheer is a godd airbender and very spiritual he helpt korra in season 4. Ming hua is a very intressting waterbender she dont let her disability get in the way and she is very creative with her waterarms. Gazhan is a poverfull lavabender who gave uss a intressting presentation on how lavabending can be used. Pli is a comboster women who have a very intressting backstory and a very intresting love story with zaheer.
@jfsimmonsiii
@jfsimmonsiii 6 ай бұрын
Zaheer was the best avatar villain in the entire universe. He was like the Thanos of the avatar universe in that we wasn’t just trying to be more powerful or to rule everything, but just to make the tough choice to do what he sees as the right thing, even if the right thing is horrible. Plus he’s a highly skilled, intelligent, well educated, well spoken strategist.. a joy to watch on screen.
@mojyoqueen350
@mojyoqueen350 Ай бұрын
If it wasn't for the conflict, Ghazan and Bolin would be absolute besties! They are an underrated duo and I'd love to see more of their interactions.
@Jack-dn2xm
@Jack-dn2xm 2 жыл бұрын
I love heart this entire video is just information we already know from the show and that he didn’t add any new information from comics and stuff
@AvatarDiscussions
@AvatarDiscussions 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll make a part 2. It’s still informational for people who haven’t watched the show or didn’t fully understand it after watching
@Jack-dn2xm
@Jack-dn2xm 2 жыл бұрын
@@AvatarDiscussions hey no I didn’t say that I’m just saying for people who did watch it it’s not very useful might be useful if you didn’t understand it but if you didn’t watch it why would you watch this video and get spoilers
@kagekun1198
@kagekun1198 9 ай бұрын
Wow that thumbnail... I never thought I'd be blessed to see a cute Ming-Hua, but here we are!
@ethanchapman969
@ethanchapman969 2 ай бұрын
The pan away during Tenzin’s beat down conveyed more brutality than any actual animation could have ever done. So well done by the story board
@myaps1859
@myaps1859 2 жыл бұрын
Amon still my fav antagonist in TLoK
@zinc8002
@zinc8002 2 жыл бұрын
they weren’t such awful ideas they just took it too far. anarchy doesn’t mean complete and absolute every-person-for-themselves and you can free the spirit world without freeing vaatu.
@dairebeare7839
@dairebeare7839 2 жыл бұрын
They had to partially retcon s2, it’s definitely the weakest aspect of the Red lotus story, it’s hard to imagine anyone having freedom with vaatu on the loose.
@DamienTheGoat
@DamienTheGoat 2 жыл бұрын
@@dairebeare7839 well I think they saw it as more of true balance. Killing korra would probably have raava form from vaatu eventually, even if it would take a long time. Although we see from how jinora helps raava reform faster, they could have done the same, having both spirits exist again. Then unalauq fucked up that plan, and both him and vaatu died. If they killed korra, both spirits would both be gone and couldn't form from each other, which either means 2 things. 1. Both spirits could reform immediately after, with equal power Or 2. Neither of them reform, which is still balance.
@jonathan13co
@jonathan13co 2 жыл бұрын
Zaheer never preached for "every-person-for-themeslves". He preached for anarchy, meaning the abolishment of all and any governing authorities. And they wanted to free Vaatu in order to restore the balance which was broken by Wan. By locking vaatu for eternity, he tipped the scales in favour for raava, which is good for the physical world, but nonetheless breaks the scale.
@Chorismos
@Chorismos Жыл бұрын
Aren't the airbenders Anarchists?
@Chorismos
@Chorismos Жыл бұрын
​@@jonathan13co God I hate Vaatu. I wish it focused on the more Yin and Yang concept rather than Good and Evil.
@robertschmidt4239
@robertschmidt4239 2 ай бұрын
I loved Su this season because up to this point the good guys never really fought to kill. But then we met Su and literally fought to kill in every battle she was in, she killed like 5 people that season.
@Crekification
@Crekification 2 жыл бұрын
The red lotus were the best written villains in the series.
@maurymalkovich8117
@maurymalkovich8117 2 жыл бұрын
Book 3 of Korra is worth getting through book 2 of Korra and that’s saying... a looooot
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 2 жыл бұрын
The Red Lotus I think are the most intriguing opponents the Avatar ever faced. But not quite my favorite. No. That honor belongs to Fire Lord Ozai. Mark Hamill voiced him to perfection.
@jessemeyer8036
@jessemeyer8036 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, lots of info, but I was hoping for more than a recap of korra season 3
@liamgreen2659
@liamgreen2659 2 жыл бұрын
Season 3 is the only season of LOK I enjoyed
@CDPW
@CDPW Ай бұрын
No arms lady was terrifying.
@masaisassi3730
@masaisassi3730 Жыл бұрын
The Legend of Korra villains are awesome. Don’t understand why use them all for 1 avatar. Amon, and Zaheer could easily have at-least 3 seasons for their own. I think they could’ve lasted more.
@Jake-ox2rd
@Jake-ox2rd 4 ай бұрын
I liked the red lotus and would love to see them come back. I also really liked the Dai Li.
@davidcase8635
@davidcase8635 Жыл бұрын
"Everyone thinks they're the Hero of their own story." - Handsome Jack from Borderlands 2.
@samsaflik
@samsaflik Жыл бұрын
This is good. The pace of speech by Narator is perfect. Voice is good. Unlike most pathetic KZfaqrs with bad voice and intonation. Editing is also very good. Keep up the amazing work.
@AvatarDiscussions
@AvatarDiscussions Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!!
@hohrhamikaiolaf464
@hohrhamikaiolaf464 2 жыл бұрын
These guys where the anti team avatar, and did the job better than the actual anti avatar.
@khudryash
@khudryash Жыл бұрын
But fr. As for me, I would really want to see series about avatar raised by Red lotus. Just imagine. Not avatar saving the world, but the world tries to save avatar as a concept
@nicholaslawrence6926
@nicholaslawrence6926 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the thumbnail picture of the Red Lotus masters as teenagers?
@thecasul1524
@thecasul1524 Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail felt like watching kid Ozai in that picture all over again.
@lieutenantkhaos
@lieutenantkhaos 9 ай бұрын
I had a cool theory, imagine if Zaheer returned in the Earth avatar series, but in the Spirit world, and he taught the avatar his knowledge of airbending. Maybe the avatar would travel to Laghimas Peak and meditate into the spirit world in order to contact him.
@an-animal-lover
@an-animal-lover 6 ай бұрын
That would be so cool
@rag1242
@rag1242 Жыл бұрын
Ming hua is adorable in the thumbnail
@bernardberari4250
@bernardberari4250 Жыл бұрын
I really wish they fleshed out the anarchist ideology more fairly. With all villains, it kind of seemed like they became caricatures of their original ideologies, just so the viewer is blatantly aware that they are the bad guy.
@Rain2G
@Rain2G Жыл бұрын
"After failing to capture 5 year old Korra." Sounds like such a powerful team.
@-rockmusiclover-
@-rockmusiclover- Жыл бұрын
well 4 very powerful warriors had to come to stop them so it's not like Korra defeated them when she was 5
@danizi4527
@danizi4527 Жыл бұрын
Btw brother zahir without air bending yet
@cozmicrahop9415
@cozmicrahop9415 Жыл бұрын
Someone please give zaheer his air bender tattoos please....what a master !!
@guiltyspark7308
@guiltyspark7308 2 ай бұрын
The Red Lotus are like the Akatsuki in Naruto, they’re both terrorist group that hunt for the Avatar (for the Akatsuki it’s Jinchuriki or tailed beast), they both believe in peace in a different way, and they both have terrifying powers (though I think the Red Lotus are less terrifying then let’s say Hidan and Kakuzu who are part of the Akatsuki)
@theshadowsurferyt
@theshadowsurferyt Ай бұрын
1:32 the perfect dap up 🔥 🔥
@HellishSpoon
@HellishSpoon 2 ай бұрын
Wow, what a cute thumbnail. i hope the guys on it don't end up dying horribly :)
@kaonemosaditeisho
@kaonemosaditeisho 2 жыл бұрын
I thought when you said the history I thought you would’ve been speaking about them before the events of Korra
@Tirnadi
@Tirnadi 2 жыл бұрын
And another underrated channel
@revotempo2082
@revotempo2082 2 жыл бұрын
No lie they look so chill in the thumbnail. Even if they did pass away, I wanted to know if the had any successors like siblings or junior students. I remember when Bolin was a joking around with the 2 red lotus members and 1 of his guesses was that the lava dude was raised by his sister. It'd be interesting if he was and that she was a member too. I'd love to see more lava bending and how it has advanced with time. Maybe there is a PYROCLASTIC FLOW bender, that would be so OP. It would literally take multiple skilled metal benders just to take out one. Cause the other elements can't actually combat it...well at least not individually.
@-rockmusiclover-
@-rockmusiclover- Жыл бұрын
I would like to see an earth bender bend wood and plants
@revotempo2082
@revotempo2082 Жыл бұрын
@@-rockmusiclover- swamp benders exists bro they bend plants by manipulating the water in them. It's like blood bending for plants. Though to be a full on wood bender you'd need to have water and earth bending lineage. Like how all lava benders have fire and earth bending parents like Bolin. Even in Naruto you need to have both chakra natures in order to do wood style.
@-rockmusiclover-
@-rockmusiclover- Жыл бұрын
@@revotempo2082 I meant like earthbenders being swampbenders as plants come from the ground so I thought about if they could bend plants, same thing with wood as it comes from trees which also come from the ground.
@elleicarjayramilo
@elleicarjayramilo 6 ай бұрын
​@@-rockmusiclover-Comes from the ground ≠ Earth
@-rockmusiclover-
@-rockmusiclover- 6 ай бұрын
@@elleicarjayramilo Bro, nine months later, lmao, you're a bit late to the party
@immagical7036
@immagical7036 3 ай бұрын
I’d love to see some sort of spin off comic or something about the Red Lotus main villain’s adventures and backstories when they were younger!!
@BETMARKonTube
@BETMARKonTube 5 ай бұрын
Yes... never been a fan of the convenient plot where someone who spent 13 years in a small cage, randomly wins the _Airbending Lottery_ and instantly become so skilled to outmatch people who trained their Bending for years.
@mranima748
@mranima748 2 ай бұрын
Kai got Airbending and was very skilled at it, Bumi got Airbending and had an airbender father, who gets Airbending isn’t random. Zaheer is the closest you can get to an airbender without being one
@sophiaclarke2325
@sophiaclarke2325 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew Pali Menghua and Gazan died but after watching this it makes sense.
@matejamicic3037
@matejamicic3037 2 жыл бұрын
its p'li ming hua and ghazan
@gooneygoogoo6316
@gooneygoogoo6316 2 жыл бұрын
Did you not watch Book III: Change?? Because if you did, how did you not come to that realization of their deaths??
@sophiaclarke2325
@sophiaclarke2325 2 жыл бұрын
@@gooneygoogoo6316 I did..but sometimes my brain is not working properly but It truly makes sense after i watched it. Every puzzle in my brain connected.
@mag-narwhal
@mag-narwhal 2 жыл бұрын
@@gooneygoogoo6316 ikr p'li blew her head off
@chrisshorten4406
@chrisshorten4406 2 жыл бұрын
Where'd that picture in the thumbnail come from? It's really good!
@cyberdevil657
@cyberdevil657 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining basically the last season... I expected way more...
@bestmonkefren
@bestmonkefren Жыл бұрын
“Tonrack” 💀
@wyvern723
@wyvern723 2 жыл бұрын
The fight between Zahir and Korra and the air benders is pretty sweet.
@Amir-td3gr
@Amir-td3gr 3 ай бұрын
It’s how unluaq , zaheer and kuvira are connected in a way because of harmonic convergence zaheer got his airbending powers going on to kill the queen causing kuvira to become a dictator in the earth kingdom
@magnusthevaliant
@magnusthevaliant Жыл бұрын
When you need someone to fix your sink you call a plumber, when you need your electricity you call an electrician AND WHEN YOU NEED TO OVERTHROW A BRUTAL TYRANT YOU CALL AN ANARCHIST!!!
@NorthForkFisherman
@NorthForkFisherman Жыл бұрын
Knocked the wind right outta her, to be sure. Yeah, I said it!
@joelhawcroft-standell6738
@joelhawcroft-standell6738 2 ай бұрын
Imagine if red lotus trianed korra... imagine a combustion bending avatar...imagine combustion bending while in avatar state
@grovercleavland2698
@grovercleavland2698 Ай бұрын
I would love to see a spinoff series with the red lotus as the protagonists.
@madliberal7710
@madliberal7710 Ай бұрын
It's been interesting to read the commentaries about how the "villains" have a valid point in their worldview in Avatar lore over the "good guys" who supported the worldview of the Avatar existing to keep balance in their world. It's just arrogance and hypocrisy to side with anarchy and cruelty that the Red Lotus believes the world would be better off destroying the Avatar legacy. Balance of the world is the mission of the Avatar after Wan's mistake in freeing Vaatu from battling Raava causing this nearly eternal battle of Light versus Dark. Wan felt guilty that he "failed" during his lifetime as the Avatar to bring balance but Raava reminded him they would be together through all the future AVatars as there will always be hope for peace. Each Avatar will have their lifetimes and different challenges to encounter as the Red Lotus is Korra's challenge. Kenji will have his own challenges as well.
@rachidnieva8527
@rachidnieva8527 2 жыл бұрын
Zaheer and fire lord ozai are the best antagonist
@elijahsimmons2245
@elijahsimmons2245 2 ай бұрын
I like this darker side of the Avatar universe💯
@Murza_X
@Murza_X Жыл бұрын
Nah man, that thumbnail is too too wholesome😂😂
@pierreteohjuanfangmoe9114
@pierreteohjuanfangmoe9114 Сағат бұрын
Honestly the only Red Lotus Member that was actually a threat was Gazan.Tenzin Knew how to suffocate the others cos his dad knew the abilities to suffocation. And if Toph were there Ming Hua would stand no chance. The beifong sisters could have used their metal bending to kill Gazan by tying his hands and Kya most probably doesnt know advanced bloodbending but must atleast know a little. Her mom was a bloodbending master.
@DamienTheGoat
@DamienTheGoat Жыл бұрын
Pretty impressive that Ming Hua can drive
@user-hj6ux6fp5f
@user-hj6ux6fp5f Жыл бұрын
I wish to see the red lotus in the next series
@simonflores1047
@simonflores1047 5 ай бұрын
What value did Zaheer bring to the red lotus prior to getting air bending…? I know he saved P’li, but first of all *HOW* and second of all, what else could he have done without any special abilities???
@graciousmkanjumwa958
@graciousmkanjumwa958 Ай бұрын
I would like to see zaheer vs ghazan and pli 's mingua
@wi2673
@wi2673 2 жыл бұрын
ghazan: ''guess he doesnt need a ride"
@MsBasiic
@MsBasiic Жыл бұрын
Beautiful story!
@ezharlawson
@ezharlawson 8 ай бұрын
If kora opened the bridge for spirits to come back to the world so what else does the red lotus want to happen?
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