I would definitely consider buying an Aventon Ramblas, but not before I learned more about the built in-hose Aventon A100 motor. The bottom line for me would be...how good of job (or not) did Aventon do on building their own motor. I am curious why there is not more information about the internals of the A100 motor. Don't leave us in the dark, Aventon. Feel free to shed some light on what makes up your new A100 motor.

What internals are you wanting to hear more about specifically?

@@ElectricBikeReport Like how does the Aventon A100 compare to other motors? Such as the Bosch CX, Brose and Shimano motors. Did Aventon use nylon or steel in the A100 gearing? How similar (or not) is the Aventon A100 motors, to other well-known motors?

@@ElectricBikeReport I'm curious about build quality of the motor compared with quality systems from Bosch, Brose, Specialized, and Yamaha. Particularly noteworthy to me is the IP67 waterproof rating that allows submersion between 15cm and 1 m. How are the motor seals designed and configured to allow this? Will the seals hold up over time and is the unit user-serviceable when time comes to replace them? If not, will Aventon physical dealer locations be able to handle seal replacement - or will replacing the motor be necessary? Materials? Is internal gearing nylon or metal? It would also be VERY good to test the motor for internal temperature under load at typical ambient temperatures to get a sense for potential weak points.

We'll see what we can learn about the internal materials. We'll have all of those motors coming soon on review bikes and then we will see about doing a motor roundup when we're done.

Nice! How light was the bike?

It was a full sized pro cruiser BMX with no weight limit. It was officially weighed at Bikeman in Bath Maine and it came in at 15.68lbs. Fully custom titanium frame and bars, lot's of carbon and other titanium parts. Carver of Bikeman built the frame for me @@ElectricBikeReport

​@@ElectricBikeReportSo light it flew away with the patent.

You built the world's lightest bike? 🤣 That's a bold claim and without some evidence backing it up I highly doubt this is true.

@@ShadLife Well jeesh! I never thought anyone would call me out on it. Back about a dozen years ago I designed and built the world's lightest BMX Pro sized cruiser. A completely custom titanium build that won a "Best of Show" at a huge bicycle event in New Hampshire. Since this is KZfaq I can't provide links but a simple Google search will come up if you type in "world's lightest BMX cruiser". There will links to a video, a link to the shop that built the frame (Carver Bikes) and a link to BMX Museum where it goes into detail of every part that was used for the build. I noticed the laughing emoji like my comment was too far fetched to believe. I don't make it a habit of lying in the KZfaq comment section. All the best...

It could make a great commuter. More bosses wouldn't be bad, and maybe some more hybrid tires and you're all set

I feel the same. Curious if they will come out with a cruiser model. I need a more upright seating position. Hopefully I can test drive one at our local shop.

@@davepurce5883 There are several Aventons that should suit you. I do not think that they will use Ramblas as a platform for anything but eMTB.

@@ElectricBikeReport It's MTB geometry prevents it from being a "great" commuter/ adventure/touring eBike IMHO... But since they now have the bones for one. Let's hope they come out with one, plus an IGH and a Gates belt, in the near future.... And/or when we get a supersized, Lectric ONE eBike, in terms of its wheel diameter, (and the simple regen motors, that increases efficiency by 10 to 20% on average, being developed by Grin Technologies from a Israeli patent that will be out by the end of the year would be nice to) hopefully? Seems like we're reaching a point where we're getting some very cost-effective eBike options, from established companies, if the tariff doesn't ruin it?

What price did you get it for?

Thanks for watching! XC is a good time as well.

Yeah aside from the XC’s air fork and its beautiful metameristic paint, the Ramblas out-specs the Prodigy XC in everything else. Plus, it comes in four frame sizes and has the ability to update its firmware and adjust its settings via a connected app. Pity my body and health preclude me from riding a bike with its geometry. Oh well, more fun for someone else!

Same 🚤

Thanks for watching and thanks for the note. The more off the cuff response is, yes, the brake set up here is what we'd consider to be a better performer and likely would have scored well. We've found that eMTBs have a harder time fitting in with the way we designed the brake test. We designed it to simulate a panic stop from 20 mph the way an ordinary rider would: braking as hard as possible while still maintaining control and minimizing the risk of skidding/going over the bars and remaining seated the whole time. MTBs and their brakes are more challenging because hitting the brakes hard for a lot of these models is something you would only want to do out of the saddle, and knowing when/how to throw your weight around. There is an element of skill to that. That's harder to set a bar with as what the 'ordinary rider' would do is a large variable - especially since mountain biking isn't usually on level surfaces and more about controlling what's up ahead. Plus, a lot of MTB brakes are modular, but several have a very hard bite. The hard bite was a little dangerous when trying to keep to the way we've been doing these tests, but we actually thought the brakes were good when used how you would need on a trail. That's the long-winded way of saying we don't feel the data will do justice to these brakes, so where eMTBs are concerned we'll talk about them in the field until we can devise a way to standardize a test that's safe for the team, and produces objective data that'll help people compare. We hope that explanation helps!

@@ElectricBikeReport Thanks for the rationale. I wasn’t expecting such a detailed and nuanced reply. It’s great that you take the time to read and respond ( when possible) to the comments.

Good points! We're eager to see if the motor / Ramblas is the start of venturing into more styles.

@@ElectricBikeReport Considering the amount of R&D capital it takes to develop a power train like this I'd be surprised if they only use it in a single product.

Definitely looking forward to see which other models get to run with that motor too

plus a gates belt drive OFC vs a supersized Lectric ONE with 29ers would be a tough choice?

It's on the louder end of the mid-drive spectrum. More aggressive whine kind of like Bosch motors sometimes are.

We'd say yes!

Crazy times, right? But in today's marketplace, this is KILLER value.

Just paid $1.75 for a used ebike, which proves nothing about anything (except the person selling it wanted to get rid of it and didn't care about the price) ... Plus in general, it's truly crazy to compare any current new prices to used prices decades ago.... I'm just glad I'm not old enough, where I've started doing that ;)

40 is about right if using turbo mode. It is geared so low that hills are not an issue, but it isn't fast. It is a simple, great bike.

It does vary from place to place so check the guidelines of local trails. FWIW, plenty of riding opportunities if you come ot the south end of the state (hi from St. George!)

@ElectricBikeReport only if I can come meet you guys. Lol love your videos. Even though I have my excellent Magnum Nomad I love learning about all the bikes you review.

Thanks for watching!

We didn't think it's volume was anything abnormal.

Torque sensor

Thanks for watching. FWIW, Aventon's been making their own frames for years. Feels pretty solid to us so far.

@@ElectricBikeReport Good to know, I see fiasco that's going on with the Lectric frames, normally I wouldn't question it

Take into consideration the drivetrain and brakes as you compare. A lot of big-brand bikes have a bike not much more expensive - BUT when you dig into the specs you find less capable gearing and 9 speed cassettes. What attracts me to the Ramblas is that it appears Aventon have purpose-built a bike that would be suitable on most any trail. And with the SRAM NX Eagle 11-speed, and Rockshox 35 fork there is no glaring need to upgrade anything. We can always want more (like tubeless ready tires/wheels and a lockout suspension with damping), but for 90% of it's intended market, I think it checks all the boxes.

True eMTBs don't have throttles. They aren't allowed on the majority of mountain bike trails. If we remember the story right, Aventon's founder has parents that owned manufacturing overseas so when he got into bikes he had all he needed to get started for his own manufacturing and they've been making frames for several brands too.

People just don't understand not all ebikes needs throttle especially in trails where any bike with a throttle is prohibited regardless deleting or unplug. We're fortunate US regulations permits 750W output @ 28 mph (Class 3) MAX whereas in Europe you're limited to 250W @ 15mph MAX