Avoid prostate biopsies with new cancer screening

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8 жыл бұрын

Dr. Manny talks with urologist Dr. Harry Fisch about the 4Kscore test, a more accurate blood test that can help men avoid invasive prostate biopsies

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@tubocabron
@tubocabron 5 жыл бұрын
Before getting a prostate biopsy tell your urologist you want a MRI of the prostate, why they don't do this prior to any biopsy other than the cost of the MRI to the insurance company it's hard to say, don't know of any other organ that gets biopsied before knowing if there is anything to biopsy, imagine a breast getting biopsied like a prostate before getting a mammogram.
@sereanaduwai8313
@sereanaduwai8313 4 жыл бұрын
This is the reason $$$$$!
@gjmob
@gjmob 2 жыл бұрын
I had an MRI and now a Biopsy. The whole lot was free. Thankfully born in Australia.
@healthytipsplus1343
@healthytipsplus1343 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! The information and direction provided gives me much needed encouragement in dealing with this condition.
@TC-eo5eb
@TC-eo5eb 2 жыл бұрын
My recent PSA was 5.5. I was referred to Urology by my primary provider. I was seen by Urology twice. Both my primary provider and Urology recommend a biopsy. Neither one of my doctors mentioned that ejaculation within 24 hours prior to my PSA blood draw could cause a higher PSA level. I found this out myself by research on the web. I did ejaculate less than 24 hours prior to my lab work. Why are doctors not educating patients not to ejaculate 24 hours prior to having their blood drawn for a PSA level?
@markymark6948
@markymark6948 2 жыл бұрын
Did u check ur blood results after
@torstenheling3830
@torstenheling3830 2 жыл бұрын
Because they are frauds out for money!
@shamrock8561
@shamrock8561 Жыл бұрын
My doctor always tells me not to ejaculate at least 48-72 hours before PSA test
@stuarthutt3740
@stuarthutt3740 Жыл бұрын
Riding a bike does the same thing. Check out Dr Abins book the great prostate hoax
@torstenheling3830
@torstenheling3830 Жыл бұрын
@@stuarthutt3740 Yes. I totally agree.
@xfiles-thetruthisoutthere8038
@xfiles-thetruthisoutthere8038 4 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, wish I’ve seen this sooner !
@otiebrown9999
@otiebrown9999 Жыл бұрын
4k sounds like the right test to do.
@ambrosemhlanga3310
@ambrosemhlanga3310 Жыл бұрын
That was precisely because it talked to unnecessary biopsies I thank you so much Doc,spot on
@rayjagger6517
@rayjagger6517 5 жыл бұрын
Not very likely to avoid many...without some kind of information on the likely hood of cancer spreading while you wait for the score to creep or fly up to the 50% mark or whatever you are using as the action point.
@jeffzest8393
@jeffzest8393 4 жыл бұрын
4kscore versus pca3. I know my PSA is high, had negative biopsy, and PCa3 below 8 last four years. Now doctor wants plain psa plus mri. Your recommendation? Thanks.
@keithgaler5586
@keithgaler5586 5 жыл бұрын
The mri is not always accurate. I had Psa 5.7,got the mri and a pidas score of 5, was sent for a template biopsy, told I would need a radical prosectomy and had no problem at all, not even inflamed from biopsy results. No return visit needed. I'll be much more wary of doctors in the future.
@thomaswilliams4056
@thomaswilliams4056 5 жыл бұрын
The same with me psa 5.7 pid ra score of 4 going in for a fusion mri biopsy at the end of the month.
@torstenheling3830
@torstenheling3830 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t trust these mutilators!
@shamrock8561
@shamrock8561 Жыл бұрын
I had a 4.8 PSA but my MRI did show 2 abnormalities on the prostate. Wants me to get biopsy as the next step . A little nervous about getting a biopsy but I believe based on the 2 abnormalities I should get it done.
@jitendranathjohari8582
@jitendranathjohari8582 2 жыл бұрын
What are the limits of PSA based on age? How it varies for people is differing nationality,say Indian etc.
@Jimfromearthoo7
@Jimfromearthoo7 4 жыл бұрын
4K score test
@jimdoyle4345
@jimdoyle4345 5 жыл бұрын
The medical industry has put mega money into female issues. Its about time more money is dedicated into male issues. The operation for men with prostate cancer is brutal.
@ppumpkin3282
@ppumpkin3282 5 жыл бұрын
Part of the Obamacare "War on Men" was to recommend reduced PSA testing. It almost cost me my life. But then I'm only a man. And we vote Democrat less than women.
@jimdoyle4345
@jimdoyle4345 5 жыл бұрын
The month of October is Prostate awareness month. I am very glad you caught it. Yes I agree with you. There has been tons of money placed into female health research. Men have gotten way less. It is time for men to stand up. Especially in the health field and men's reproductive issues. I have been in pain for YEARS. Time to start sifting money to men's health issues. Woman have a LOT of services.
@danhalfhill9169
@danhalfhill9169 5 жыл бұрын
For me, the effects of the painkillers were far worse than the surgery itself. Now figure that one out. And, the operation outcome really depend on patient age/health and surgeon skill.
@gomertube
@gomertube 6 жыл бұрын
You think ol' Dr. Harry has a financial interest in the 4Kscore test?
@greendeane1
@greendeane1 5 жыл бұрын
I don't care. PSA does not detect prostate cancer. End of argument.
@zagfan44
@zagfan44 4 жыл бұрын
@@greendeane1 You are so right!
@rexybundy
@rexybundy 5 жыл бұрын
If you don't have a enlarge prostate, can there still be a chance of having prostate?
@thomascoy3195
@thomascoy3195 5 жыл бұрын
My PSA was going up and down, the last time it went above 5. I had the MRI done then the biopsy a week ago. I've been peeing blood for the last 3 days now.
@MsAnnvy
@MsAnnvy 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, my Dad is going to get this biopsy. Are you ok? Did your bleeding stop? Is it really help doing a biopsy ? Please reply your valuable comments.
@orwinabello5669
@orwinabello5669 5 жыл бұрын
is that screening available already here in phillipines...where we can find?
@chacha9674
@chacha9674 5 жыл бұрын
Go to St.Lukes in Taguig or Quezon City they already have new technology for detecting prostate issues.
@geraldwalsh6489
@geraldwalsh6489 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Here in Ireland,a high psa always means a biopsy. Had one 15 years ago and it was a very unpleasant experience. I was told it was an infection. Surely antibiotics should be given first
@jamescalifornia2964
@jamescalifornia2964 9 ай бұрын
Prostatitis is common with BPH ...
@offshoretinker
@offshoretinker 5 жыл бұрын
'...a dash of diabetes...' There's a guy who takes his health seriously.
@zagfan44
@zagfan44 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I found that comment to be a bit odd coming from a doctor.
@rickrick5041
@rickrick5041 3 жыл бұрын
@@zagfan44 Are they both doctors?
@markslayton5042
@markslayton5042 Жыл бұрын
So funny!
@kmensa5301
@kmensa5301 9 ай бұрын
MRI is enough for me; if i perish i perish
@jaimesanchez1121
@jaimesanchez1121 5 жыл бұрын
What’s the name of this test?
@addagwenlyn9662
@addagwenlyn9662 5 жыл бұрын
4K score test
@gitz4411
@gitz4411 4 жыл бұрын
My dad PSA level is 1730 can u please advice
@pcarson9654
@pcarson9654 2 жыл бұрын
What there no way it never goes that high
@pcarson9654
@pcarson9654 2 жыл бұрын
What if the level is 10 or higher
@sandraredmond4812
@sandraredmond4812 Жыл бұрын
What about the 1 in 4 guy whose life could be saved by a biopsy?
@peedee1262
@peedee1262 3 жыл бұрын
Even with mri n bone scan you still need biopsy with high psa (>10), mine is 44! Biopsy will reveal grade of any cancerous cells and if none or low, then it’s BHP. Regardless u need biopsy mostly !
@johnkrowd9943
@johnkrowd9943 5 жыл бұрын
I had PSA 3.2 before biopsy and 3 months after biopsy PSA elevated to 6.11 and now 6 months after biopsy it is 5.4 . I have no idea and my urologists too why that happened.. The problem is that this result suggests to do second biopsy which is really hard to accept... I have no idea what to do next..
@timburle4980
@timburle4980 5 жыл бұрын
3T MRI is what my Uro did in a similar situation. It was also negative.
@johnkrowd9943
@johnkrowd9943 5 жыл бұрын
@@timburle4980 Thanks for reply. What was the pi radis value ? It was some parameter you got from 3T MRI describing condition of prostate.
@timburle4980
@timburle4980 5 жыл бұрын
John Krowd PI-RADS cat 3 thought likely to be some fibrotic change around the region of the ejact ducts
@nenadilic9486
@nenadilic9486 3 жыл бұрын
Just live normally and don't obsess over numbers, Doctors want patients. Stay away from them. Eat cruciferous veggies and avoid soy, dairy and carbs.
@tomassoyweyvon4902
@tomassoyweyvon4902 2 жыл бұрын
See Dr. Berg, PSA (Prostrate Specific Antigen) explained you tube
@427yenko67
@427yenko67 6 жыл бұрын
But what is the cost
@aslancoach1218
@aslancoach1218 5 жыл бұрын
$395
@chacha9674
@chacha9674 5 жыл бұрын
You are lying
@zagfan44
@zagfan44 4 жыл бұрын
My urologist told me was "around $500". Had it done, still waiting to see if my insurance will pony up.
@meruvain
@meruvain 3 жыл бұрын
Is this blood testing available in India
@doctorlovedoctorlove2238
@doctorlovedoctorlove2238 2 жыл бұрын
no - Indian men don’t has a prostate
@thomascoy3195
@thomascoy3195 4 жыл бұрын
I'll never go through the biopsy again.
@macy-ry4fq
@macy-ry4fq 4 жыл бұрын
@Best Tongkat Ali do you have recommendations? My bf has high grade PIN. Not much info on topic
@shamrock8561
@shamrock8561 Жыл бұрын
I believe I’m going to opt to going under anesthesia.
@arthro9259
@arthro9259 5 жыл бұрын
The 4K test is flawed as well. If you're on meds that treats BPH, you MUST let the doctor or who ever draws your blood, know. The people who work at the center where the 4K analyzes the blood told me you have to be off any BPH meds for six months, because it will flaw the test if you don't.
@jmseipp
@jmseipp 5 жыл бұрын
What about herbal formulas like Saw Palmetto Extract etc??
@arthro9259
@arthro9259 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. They told me the same works for supplements. However, I would advise you to reach out to the company to ask for your own peace of mind.
@ppumpkin3282
@ppumpkin3282 5 жыл бұрын
The 4k test doesn't make sense to me. It relies on PSA, digital rectal exams, and prior biopsies. If you do all that just skip the 4k test. PSA's can be meaningless- some of the most severe cases of pc have low psa. digital rectal exams can give false negatives. I would only use it to reduce frequency of biopsies. Maybe every three years instead of one.
@Asahel717
@Asahel717 4 жыл бұрын
Arthro92, the test can be affected if you're taking 5-alpha reductase inhibitors (e.g., Finasteride) but not if you're taking something like a beta blocker (Tamsulosin). 5ARIs lower total PSA and can affect results. Or, if the lab knows a man is on 5ARIs, they might be able to correct for total PSA before running their algorithm. Good point on your part, however. Thank you.
@williamdenton6317
@williamdenton6317 5 жыл бұрын
Why is the Free to Total PSA blood test never mentioned. I have had a high psa now for 20 years but my F/T always reads 30, which means I have a 1 in 10 chance of getting cancer. Two biopsies were negative.
@Makinja
@Makinja 5 жыл бұрын
Good question. Can hardly find info online about free psa. Most sources seem to address the total psa score.
@howellwebb5193
@howellwebb5193 3 жыл бұрын
My PSA is out of sight, 113 to be exact. Had bone scan and abdomen and pelvis scan the results was no evidence of metastatic disease. My gleason score was 4/4 (8) which is stage 4. I'm 69 ,should I have my prostate removed and take a gamble on the potential ugly side affects?
@terrellwilliams5829
@terrellwilliams5829 2 ай бұрын
That's great! Did you have any symptoms
@ppumpkin3282
@ppumpkin3282 5 жыл бұрын
I had a clear digital rectal exam - no nodules. I also had a PSA of only 4.00 and a relatively small rate of change. Yet I had a high grade cancer with a gleason score of nine. This 4k test relies on prior biopsies and digital rectal exam and wouldn't have worked for me. What he says refers mostly to men who have already had a biopsy. I agree that repeated biopsies may be counter productive. But you never know if you have a serious cancer until you have had the first one. Also remember, these guys are talking statistics. For most men it makes no difference, but if you are that one unlucky one who would have benefited from a biopsy - you're screwed. Prostate cancer can be taken care of if it's caught early enough. If not, it may be a lifetime of chemo, radiation, hormone therapy, urinary problems, and no erections. The mortality rate may be the same of someone who did nothing - but the quality of life isn't. When in doubt take it out.
@19LondBuch72
@19LondBuch72 5 жыл бұрын
No erections = no life.
@ferdinandblose1036
@ferdinandblose1036 5 жыл бұрын
Biopsy is a terrible idea , people were already affected by 12 needless in the Prostate gland now come this. Why are Doctors not all trained the same
@TRICK-OR-TREAT236
@TRICK-OR-TREAT236 5 жыл бұрын
A BIOPSY IS THE ONLY TEST THAT'S THE REAL DEAL BUT ITS NOT 100% FOOLPROOF BUT IT'S CLOSE.
@KeyofDavid5778
@KeyofDavid5778 5 жыл бұрын
The PSA test is proven to be 80% wrong. Checkout out Doug Kaufmann show Know the Cause he interviews the inventor of the PSA test who admits it!
@Angelflightcrew
@Angelflightcrew 4 жыл бұрын
Scott Gabelman The PSA test can’t be “wrong”. It simply denotes a level. The interpretation.....that’s a different story.
@sereanaduwai8313
@sereanaduwai8313 4 жыл бұрын
The PSA test was originally used to follow up on patients getting treated for abnormal prostate-it was never meant for testing!
@frankmachado1010
@frankmachado1010 8 жыл бұрын
actually Irattle is a troll, ive seen him on other sites doing the same thing so that clears that up....
@gadsdonflag4289
@gadsdonflag4289 8 жыл бұрын
I've seen him troll elsewhere also......ignore him.......CONSIDER THE SOURCE!!!
@catamountmpls
@catamountmpls Жыл бұрын
nenadilic9486 is one as well
@bablyajmani
@bablyajmani 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@joellee7645
@joellee7645 6 жыл бұрын
my psa waa 114
@redrose14413
@redrose14413 6 жыл бұрын
then what happened what kind of treatment you are going through
@esmith1940
@esmith1940 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, Really that seems high. Mine went from 3 to 6.7 and my doctor is freaking out.
@joellee7645
@joellee7645 6 жыл бұрын
+E Smiths i have stage three cancer after the number 114
@rakhu1963
@rakhu1963 6 жыл бұрын
joel lee that high? Have you done the prostate biopsy or this 4kscreening?
@rakhu1963
@rakhu1963 6 жыл бұрын
joel lee sorry that you have cancer. What's your current status?
@nenadilic9486
@nenadilic9486 3 жыл бұрын
Live your life, don't obsess over numbers. Doctors want patients - stay away from them.
@kervilou5905
@kervilou5905 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@catamountmpls
@catamountmpls Жыл бұрын
Stupidest statement I've read today, but it's still early.
@larainewright6003
@larainewright6003 7 жыл бұрын
the
@JeemCar
@JeemCar 5 жыл бұрын
Confusing....
@georgeyu3802
@georgeyu3802 7 жыл бұрын
yv
@georgeyu3802
@georgeyu3802 7 жыл бұрын
HK TVB
@Makinja
@Makinja 5 жыл бұрын
Now we're hearing about not just a total psa score (which should be lower), but also a "free" psa score (which should be higher). smh
@leayardtucker9579
@leayardtucker9579 5 жыл бұрын
p
@TrumpFoundation
@TrumpFoundation 8 жыл бұрын
Why is this news?
@tommac21
@tommac21 Жыл бұрын
I'm 57 and won't do any of these. No rectal especially or blood. No need
@danhalfhill9169
@danhalfhill9169 5 жыл бұрын
A blind biopsy is absolutely asinine. 3T MRI first then either image guided biopsy or in-core biopsy. Either way, your gonna get a large object up “there”, followed by 12 or so jabs via sample needle. But don’t worry guys, it’s really not that bad. A bit annoying but tolerable for sure.
@MsAnnvy
@MsAnnvy 4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure. My Dad needs to get this done. He is 79. Please let me know if the pain is tolerable for him~?
@Asahel717
@Asahel717 4 жыл бұрын
@@MsAnnvy, what is your father's PSA? Do you know the size of his prostate? At his age, I would avoid a biopsy if at all possible. Has his MD ordered an MRI? It should be a multi-parametric MRI, preferable at a center that has a 3-Tesla machine, as the imaging is better than on the weaker magnet (1.5-Tesla) machines. He should have more information, and I would hope he's not being sent for a biopsy solely based on elevated total PSA. There are painful, but it depends on the pain tolerance of the individual man. They do run the risk of complications, chief of which is infection. If your father is on blood thinners or an aspirin regimen, he should consult with his MD prior to the biopsy. Since your post is only two weeks old, has he had the biopsy yet?
@MsAnnvy
@MsAnnvy 4 жыл бұрын
@@Asahel717yes, his biopsy is done on 17th. Taking antibiotics now. Results are awaited.
@deanreynolds7825
@deanreynolds7825 4 жыл бұрын
@@Asahel717 I had a prostate biopsy at age 78 and payed $200.00 extra to be put out , I did bleed every time I peed but soon cleared up, Gleeson score was 7, yesterday I had the MRI which was very painfull due to placing the coil up my rectum , now I will have another biopsy next month to see if I will need radiation t o have my prostate removed .
@stefanovichmichael9686
@stefanovichmichael9686 2 жыл бұрын
I had 2 biopsies. Second one put me in the hospital with sepsis. It happens. Never been hospilized in my life, and I was 65.Never ever been that sick, it was horrible. Think mri first.
@charleswind8298
@charleswind8298 3 жыл бұрын
Dude your 59 ? Yikes.
@rakhu1963
@rakhu1963 6 жыл бұрын
Question. Should a physician assistant be performing a prostate biopsy surgery?
@izmethmarikar8618
@izmethmarikar8618 5 жыл бұрын
MY PSA TEST SHOWS 17.5 . and biopsy test Intermediate risk 3-3 what is the best tretment.
@Ns-iw3kl
@Ns-iw3kl 4 жыл бұрын
@@izmethmarikar8618 🤔🤔🤔
@Jimfromearthoo7
@Jimfromearthoo7 4 жыл бұрын
The only thing i let a PA is take my vitals.🤔
@jeffzest8393
@jeffzest8393 4 жыл бұрын
Jim Fromearth how about a resident?
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