Avoid this common mistake in mid-tempo double bass drumming

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Ай бұрын

Avoid this common mistake in mid-tempo double bass drumming
The reason you're stuck at a specific tempo with your double bass drumming happens for a few reasons.
The main cause of that is because of your drum technique.
If you're stomping on your pedals expecting to be able to play for longer, you'll know that's not going to work.
Do what I'm showing you in the video instead.

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@daftnote Ай бұрын

holy shit this is exactly the problem i have. not able to ankle it fully but this explained it perfectly

@CameronFleury Ай бұрын

I'm glad you found the video helpful!

@CommanderCodyChipless 10 күн бұрын

I guess you could say... you were kneeding this

@RsKnDR0991 2 күн бұрын

@@CommanderCodyChipless FBI OPEN UP

@eeeeee8762 Ай бұрын

I've heard of this, I think it was called a "Heel roll." I first saw it in action when I watched a drum cam of The Rev playing live, his technique was impeccable I should mention I don't have any drums and don't know any lingo, so a "heel roll" could be something entirely different... actually, maybe it was "heel toe?" They sound similar

@TheJakePoole Ай бұрын

Heel-Toe is an entirely different technique, meant to do double strokes. There are so many different techniques, though. I've been working on both heel-toe and ankle lately. They're both very weird to pick up on for an old "stomper" like myself. Haha

@dbmdrums1105 Ай бұрын

I think you meant heel toe. The Rev I believe was definitely a ankle technique player. Heel toe is something what Art Cruz from Lamb of God does quite a lot. I am also a heel toe player. I prefer using it even in mid tempos of 140 too.. It's less taxing to the foot.

@chetkersey5027 16 күн бұрын

@@eeeeee8762 youre talking about the live in the lbc video aren’t you? I have been trying to find any footage of his feet because his technique is so awesome to me, clear, fast, and powerful. Let me know anything else further you find out!!

@stubstunner Ай бұрын

This is how i learned to play! It also helps you get consistent doubles or triplets playing with one pedal.

@CameronFleury Ай бұрын

One pedal, endless possibilities! Keep rockin' those doubles and triplets.

@generalconsumer9520 15 күн бұрын

I miss my friends double bass and couldn't understand my brother-in-law telling me to use my heels. But I made noise. My bro's drum teachings are "can you count to 4? That's how I learned." Yeah yeah, we know.

@tophatparrot9888 Ай бұрын

The bassdrum sounds like an AK-47

@incubrian Күн бұрын

evans EMAD heads man. i have put an EMAD on the worst kinds of kick drums and it instantly sounds epic as fuck

@MBlast666 25 күн бұрын

This is sick! Appreciate the breakdown!

@rickwells5624 13 күн бұрын

Im an old school drummer like a few other people in the comments. The things people do with drums and even guitars now a days just blows my mind. Its simply amazing. I tried this on my old set of "Gretsch " drums and they said, nope, we dont do that here lol Im 56 and still jamming. But the rock has just about rolled away. Thanks for sharing your technique and talents. I'll keep trying. But I think I need to raise the throne higher to get the angle. But then I'd have to lower it so I dont fall off on the next song lol

@CameronFleury 13 күн бұрын

Keep rocking on, age is just a number when it comes to music!

@rickwells5624 13 күн бұрын

@@CameronFleury Very true brother. I'm planning to keep rocking till my time on earth is done 👍👍

@nylesfrench3568 5 күн бұрын

@@CameronFleury True Indeed and it certainly does keep you "Young" in many ways. This includes the Spirit vibe, so important to our being.

@JosephTavano 5 күн бұрын

@@rickwells5624 always keep that throne high and those drums and cymbals low! Drumming is about ankles and wrists not shoulders and hips.

@rickwells5624 5 күн бұрын

@@JosephTavano Hey there, Joseph. Thank ya, brother. Appreciate the advice. Since my comment on here the other day, I've raised the throne up. I sure didn't like it at first. I been doing it my way (the wrong way) so long, but I told myself to stick with it, I'd get used to it. And I've left it up. It has turned out to be more comfortable. I haven't improved any lol But one thing at a time 👍👍 Keep rolling the rock. Appreciate your comment. Tale care.

@shotgunchris 27 күн бұрын

Thanks for comprehensive tutorials!

@CameronFleury 27 күн бұрын

No problem at all! Happy to help.

@drummerw17 19 күн бұрын

Excellent lesson my great friend!!! 👍🎼🥁🎼👍.

@CameronFleury 17 күн бұрын

Many thanks!!

@drumversitytt3141 Ай бұрын

Great info thanks !

@CameronFleury Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@generalconsumer9520 15 күн бұрын

Thank you, literally just had this conversation and AI must've heard because this video popped up and I was sold a double bass pedal.

@CameronFleury 13 күн бұрын

Looks like the AI is keeping a close eye on your conversations. Better watch what you say next!

@generalconsumer9520 13 күн бұрын

@@CameronFleury I forgot to put a laughing face but yes my home is all the same company linked so we go hide under the stairs to discuss important stuff. 😆🤔😂

@MORTALVAIL Ай бұрын

Very solid advice!

@Kekistani_Insurgent 25 күн бұрын

THIS WAS SO HELPFUL OMG

@jade_bee.2579 25 күн бұрын

Loving your black panther kit, and I’m so jealous of that snare, and also we use the same kick heads, but Put a piece of tape over part of your snare wires.. or like, an o ring on the batter, please, every kick hit is ringing like crazy Not to hate, it’s just not pleasant lmao, it’d piss me off real quick if it was on my kit Also, good explanation and breakdown for this, good for beginners to get up speed and control!.

@jfmax2000 25 күн бұрын

Dead On...Exactly Right Sir 😎👊💯💯

@RasputinPrime75 23 күн бұрын

Best bass drum heads ever Evans EMad, I use them on my bass drums as well. Aquarian Super Kick is good too.

@Yupppi 19 күн бұрын

Doing some judo and running I grimace for that amount of calf work for longer bouts... The lower legs get fried so fast compared to other parts of the body when you really use them. Since most of the days we don't really need them to work, just hang around moving without loading. Shoutouts to drummers, it makes all the sense why they're so fit.

@weareallbeingwatched4602 Ай бұрын

The bell under the hihat looks like tinnitus was here

@palsyddad 12 күн бұрын

That's basically where my bell is.

@Pslamist 25 күн бұрын

SICK tone.

@jamesadams7131 25 күн бұрын

That Mapex Black Panther Black Widow kit is sweet!

@fergocarvalho 7 күн бұрын

I realized that myself some months ago. what a coincidence. good to know I'm in the right direction

@wilkinsnl 17 күн бұрын

Love that snare man, I have the un-hammered one and a hammered 10”. They’ve been in my collection for years. The 14x6.5 is in incredible shape, none of the wires ever broke, everything in top condition. On the hammered 10” one of the lugs crumbled on the inside. I tried to get a replacement from Mapex but they don’t make them anymore. I guess I’ll have to cannibalize one of my other lesser black panthers. Killer vid.

@CameronFleury 16 күн бұрын

Dude, your snare collection sounds awesome! Shame about the lug, but hey, that's just another opportunity to make your drum kit even more unique!

@thejbo777 18 күн бұрын

Good info

@JoshParkerDrums 17 күн бұрын

Thanks dude this was great 🤘

@CameronFleury 17 күн бұрын

I'm glad you found it helpful!

@aleksthevoyager1260 Ай бұрын

Hey your videos keep popping up in my feed and I really liked the snare tone in one of your other videos but I couldn’t find the one so I’ll just comment here. What snare do you use?

@larrybecker9565 24 күн бұрын

Awesome 🥁

@charlesbrockman3299 8 күн бұрын

Kept hearing blue Monday in those sharp, full leg beats

@tylerd1090 12 күн бұрын

That stick has seen better days! xD

@alemon22 24 күн бұрын

many thanks

@lucif3erum Күн бұрын

INTERESTING!

@j51010 14 күн бұрын

Thanks

@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 18 күн бұрын

same rule applies to one kick pedal which I can make sound like a double bass pedal

@ShartimusPrime 21 күн бұрын

How important is seat-height in this? I notice most metal drummers are up in the stratosphere, almost standing up. Does that minimize the leg lifting help force you to rely on ankle movement?

@fiveoclockdock 6 күн бұрын

Nice shoes mate

@bb3208 Ай бұрын

Bro science. Dig it.

@CameronFleury Ай бұрын

Always!

@mikebruce17 Ай бұрын

Im not a drummer and have never touched a drumkit, but that almost looks like you can almost think of it like jogging on the pedals. Use the biggest muscles available to accomplish the task in order to keep up your stamina. Also, if im getting sent drum lesson shorts, KZfaq has an odd image of who i am.

@user-zu8ip2ci7q 15 күн бұрын

I just learned something new

@CameronFleury 15 күн бұрын

Happy to help!

@benjamindixon4825 13 күн бұрын

I wanna hear that snare!!!

@canterburytells9770 16 күн бұрын

One of your toms frequency is off and reacting to you bass drum. Great advice either way.

@CameronFleury 15 күн бұрын

Maybe my tom has a mind of its own and wants to groove with the bass drum!

@ramonkey2939 28 күн бұрын

Makes sense!

@tamski6567 23 күн бұрын

Any tips how to setup the 2nd pedal?

@hauntedhose 25 күн бұрын

Blabba dabba dat 🤙🏻

@Unlocked985 Ай бұрын

This was muscle memory for me since I even started playing drums tbh I sometimes even play pedal too fast

@fuckcensorship69 Ай бұрын

You need to practice at various tempos if your feet arent playing along

@niluss6 17 күн бұрын

Kinda confusing as it looks the same visually, but I think I kinda get it and have to try it. 👍

@CameronFleury 16 күн бұрын

Thank you for being open to trying it out despite the initial confusion!

@TheWerequat 16 күн бұрын

Oddly enough, this is how I've always played.

@blahblahgdp 29 күн бұрын

Is ankling it the same as building muscle? I mean i know it is, but i tire out rly quick

@matan.saster 6 күн бұрын

This is great, thanks! How do you prevent that ringing on the toms when you’re doing recording?

@CameronFleury 6 күн бұрын

Use gates!

@matan.saster 6 күн бұрын

@@CameronFleury ah ha! Thanks!!

@TherealTFfromKingston Ай бұрын

What tension do you have both pedals at? I find with my cheap double pedals, one is always more tight than the other. My right leg pedal is always more loose than my left leg pedal

@antmanmc1437 11 күн бұрын

Esos son unos vans Kylie Walker 🤟🏻

@the_rustydoornob1164 25 күн бұрын

I need a taller throne, I’m a tall ass dude so I can’t get the angle I want to have good technique

@neptunesgold1216 19 күн бұрын

@@the_rustydoornob1164 get the tama 1st chair hydraulic bike seat style throne it's the best drum chair out there. It also raises just high enough to get that nice angle for me and I'm 6 ft 4 inches. Raise the throne as high high as it will go and that will work perfect for you. The tama 1st chair hydraulic motorcycle seat style.

@nunonthesun 20 күн бұрын

So basically you’re just playing with your heels? Like the essential motion is coming from you picking up and letting down your heel? That’s how I understood it. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong.

@kengyang1908 Ай бұрын

That's how u get awesome burrito diarrhea blast beats

@gamingwithdakotaandmore4546 24 күн бұрын

I'm a guitarist and I watched the whole thing lol

@cfpzona 24 күн бұрын

I wonder if that would cause issues with the Achilles over time. Ok fine, I'm an old giy with concerns.

@jzu907 23 күн бұрын

maybe but do warmups and physical therapy exercises and itll probs be fine

@broomeydbr9 24 күн бұрын

Why does the kick sound like someone slapping a ham?

@tommybobommy9208 23 күн бұрын

Do you think a good throne is important? I feel like it’s all about technique but also the technique is to be comfortable. So I think a a good throne and pedal go a lot further than people think.

@RasputinPrime75 23 күн бұрын

A good drum throne is very important, especially if your playing for long periods of time. Have had alot of thrones over the years but in my humble opinion Roc N Soc are a cut above the rest. Functionality and comfort nothing comes close.

@keving2918 28 күн бұрын

👨‍🦲: not quite my tempo

@rontalley8385 25 күн бұрын

You said balls

@Punxsutawney_ Ай бұрын

Harmonic sound

@wantrutree6517 24 күн бұрын

joey jordison doesn't want to teach us. 😂

@karkarey 22 күн бұрын

This was also sort of like Derek Roddy's flatfoot technique

@CameronFleury 22 күн бұрын

Very much so! We had Derek do a masterclass inside of our community and we touched on it as well.

@karkarey 22 күн бұрын

@@CameronFleury wow, I didn't know that .that's really cool! Thanks for replying

@jonnhardy Ай бұрын

Eloy casagrande is thebest pedaling drum

@FUZZLLAMA 10 күн бұрын

Its just that leg bouncing thing that people do all the time. But it's musical.

@GerkoRodriguez 26 күн бұрын

Bro that zil bel is asking for some personal space 😢

@spaomalley 22 күн бұрын

Lol. You said balls

@Kinseliplier 25 күн бұрын

How were you able to Play it so Fast that First Time? You must have Bionic Terminator Legs.

@CameronFleury 23 күн бұрын

The Ankle Technique!

@tommybass22 23 күн бұрын

It’s called “free floating” it comes with time.

@mikerodrigues4623 24 күн бұрын

Não entendi uma só palavra, mas peguei a visão 🍷🗿🤝

@gavinwendel6195 10 күн бұрын

And John Henry Bonham never learned that because he did it naturally hence the reason that Bonzo with one bass drum can't be copied because it was the one of a kind Bonzo groove that can't be copied!

@user-oy3fi4sk8r 23 күн бұрын

He-he balls

@ray.a7343 Ай бұрын

Wow you look like your sitting really high I m at almost 90 degrees maybe I gotta sit higher my legs kill when playing double bass 😢

@chrispix61 10 күн бұрын

Congratulations, did you just figure that out on your own

@CameronFleury 9 күн бұрын

Haha, it took me a while, but I finally got there!

@jeffmyrick7517 Ай бұрын

Want to play fast?.. Practice!!!!!

@roromoho 26 күн бұрын

Yes but efficiently, otherwise its useless

@CameronFleury 23 күн бұрын

Practice the right way. More practice doesn't = more results.

@jaysantiago9673 24 күн бұрын

Nice. The life of the short-legged drummer. Your drum stool is too high, it should only be 10 inches off of the ground because you're leg- deficient. Also, a Fischer-Price drum set would fit you perfect. Totally kidding, keep spreading knowledge and SLAM ON!!!!!

@DOOM.SLAYER666 22 күн бұрын

Everyone is different brother, i dont use ankle or swivel or double stroke but use back of heal plus full leg and get upto 280 bpm, its just how i adapted. Never practiced always just played along to Nile and ORIGIN and now make my own music 🤘🤘🔥

@roromoho 26 күн бұрын

Elvis Presley was the King...of double bass drumming but he didnt know

@Jesus-thy-twost 16 күн бұрын

Dude you have calves of steel there

@Jesus-thy-twost 16 күн бұрын

I dont

@CameronFleury 15 күн бұрын

Haha, thanks! I guess all those calf raises are finally paying off!

@matrug0078 Ай бұрын

Chris turner would like to have a talk with you

@CameronFleury Ай бұрын

Cool! Love his drumming

@getinTHEBIN318 11 күн бұрын

easier technique learn that your heels don't come off the floor. Then it's all muscle memory.

@scor440 27 күн бұрын

This is double bass pedal playing not double bass as per say Louie Bellson

@monstrg3349 24 күн бұрын

Whos re-watching in 2024

@MegaMech 11 күн бұрын

My advice is to throw out the double bass pedal. It's the lamest tool that beginners think is cool but it's not.

@scor440 Күн бұрын

Double pedal not double bass you don’t have two bass drums

@dusty_muff 10 күн бұрын

Just buy the double-single pedal - technique NOT needed... and you've got more room on your left side for 2nd cowbell pedal next to ur hat pedal. YOU'RE WELCOME 😂😂😂

@CameronFleury 9 күн бұрын

Who needs technique when you can just buy your way to success, right?

@dusty_muff 9 күн бұрын

@@CameronFleury Exactly... now you're understanding 🤣🤣

@bennievargas2673 28 күн бұрын

Try white and grey socks next time

@haninorahman4689 22 күн бұрын

Please add text, i cant hear clearly

@Ratislaus38910 25 күн бұрын

Idk why I'm watching this I'm a guitarist💀💀

@devinanderson6716 20 күн бұрын

toe balls

@malcolmbliss777 25 күн бұрын

You're sitting awfully high. I try to keep my knee at a 90 degree angle.

@CameronFleury 23 күн бұрын

I'm really not sitting all that high

@malcolmbliss777 23 күн бұрын

@@CameronFleury I had a podiatrist tell me that any sitting position athletics need to conform to good posture, so u don't get problems later. 90 degree at waist, 90 degree at knee, 90 degree at elbow. That's "starting/stopping" positions, as moving all over is what drumming is all about. A dance done while sitting down. Oh, and those split chairs do wonders for not aggravating tail bone issues. I don't have one, but I tried one once and loved it.

@malcolmbliss777 23 күн бұрын

It was my podiatrist bc I got ingrown nails so bad when I first started. I was wearing the wrong size shoe. Also a big no no.