I agree

Do you have a 5 lbs rifle with scope and fully loaded

This is the type of guy that doesn’t need traction control or anti-lock brakes either. 😂😂😂

@@sbcbaits994 😆😆😆 sure you dont need it. But nice to have 👌

I can see someone wanting a suppressor option but I can't stand a muzzle brake on anything I would shoot. But to each their own.

Too classy for this comment section.

@@MrMalicious5 I guess I'll keep my 8x57is Rigby to myself then! Haha

I seen one of those rifles at a sporting goods store and I told that fellow behind the counter " it's too dam pretty to take a hunting!" All I could do is hang it up on the wall and stare at it!

My grandpa has the same rifle and scope, it is a beautiful gun and I love the thing, I used it all the time when it came to pushing woods and hunting in the swamps

@@thomaslenhart832 it's beautiful what firearms means to men like us. They're not just a firearm, when I'm hunting. That's my dad in my arms, that's us on another hunting trip. He hasn't been able to take the cold or pull the hills for years now. But as long as I have that rifle in my hands. He is right there with me.

Isn't it funny how everyone now believes you have to have a scope that goes to 35 or 40 power and costs twice as much as the rifle.

@@nathanstrickland8692 I love your reply.My dad hunts with me every year,lthough he's been gone 23 years He's still in the woods with me

Me too, I shoot a 105 year old Eddystone model 1917 still smashed a quarter at 100yds

Have to agree with you - have shot the M-1 since 1954 and always liked it, even with iron sights. Best all around rifle.

Had to sell my M1 to get more modern rifles due to idiots banning them. The M1 is an amazing gun. Smooth shooting and very accurate. Definitely one of the best guns ever made.

In another 20 years there will be lawyer commercials asking if you have a muzzle break on your rifle and if you have lost hearing call for a free consultation. I have one of the 06 featherweights and recoil doesn't bother me I guess when you own a .338, 9.3, and 45/70s recoil doesn't affect me.

I love muzzle brakes.like the( oss Alfa banner. ) On some rifles. I like flash hider /brakes/compensator hybrids. Oss bcm and others make flash hiding recoil reducing devices that don't increase blast. I like to mount suppressors also. It's another tool in my box. And today u can find options with no downsides. It might not reduce recoil quite as much. But still very effective.

I second this notion. Can't beat a FN herstal made Model 70 made in their Vienna plant using FN barrels. For the price to quality you really couldn't ask for a better rifle.

Agree, the current Model 70's are hard to beat; one of the best production rifles going right now. For me, no need for a muzzle brake or suppressor.

if only i could find me a model 70 alaskan in 30-06. everywhere is all out of stock...

I was very impressed with the Vanguard. If they made a lefty version, I'd have one.

The Vanguard Synthetic is chambered in .30-06 but not threaded. Muzzle break, good grief

Nice to see someone mention the CZ 550. Mine in .30-06 is an excellent do-it-all rifle.

Wow, I have never seen a 1903 below 1200$.

I totally agree...I love that rifle.

@@CrazyPalidin57 I got it on an online auction located a half hour from me. I figure the Smith Corona, as opposed to Remington, Winchester or Springfield, threw people off. I live in Canada, so it worked out to under $325 U.S. When I went to pick it up, the guy who runs the auction house asked me, "You know what you got, don't you?" Yes, I do!

@@richroylance4630 It just feels right in your hands. I have a number of bolt action milsurps, and this feels the best of them all. It shoots great too.

@ djrand62 - Man alive, glad you had a good experience with your M1903A3 because the one I used to own kicked like an ill-tempered mule! It was a light rifle, and had a steel butt-plate, too. First day I took it out after buying it, I got home and found my entire right-shoulder area was bruised in multiple colors. That sucker beat the crap out of me. On the other hand, the M1903s I've shot since then have been pussy-cats. But if I ever run across that old one, I'll be getting a Limb-Saver for sure!

My Remington 700 is my favorite.. and I'm partial to walnut sticks and great blueing.... dont think I'll ever get into plastic guns and flat black finishes... a gun is a work of art as well as a functioning tool

Same here. Great rifle, lousy recoil pad.

I agree 100% The difference a Limbsaver makes on a 300 WSM is astounding. It is night-and-day different, especially on a bench. Unfortunate that Sako/Tikka refuse to acknowledge the pads they send out the door are woefully lacking.

A little surprised about the comments regarding Tikka and recoil. I stepped down from 30-06 (Weatherby Mark 5) and 7mm Rem Mag (Sako A5) to 308 Win in a Tikka T3 superlight for me and I also picked up a Tikka T3 light compact for my 12 year old daughter who was sub 100 lbs when she started shooting it. I switched my stock to a Bell and Carlson which put me into a different butt pad, and I used Hornady managed recoil rounds for my kiddo. I never felt uncomfortable with the 308 and my daughter never complained about shooting hers. Now 7 years later, I recently added the spacer to her stock and re-sighted her rifle with Nosler 165 Accubond factory ammo since she is now grown a bit. I also checked my rifle to make sure the scope was still on target. I did these a week apart and don't recall any difference in the recoil between the two. I actually find the recoil of the 308 to be pleasant to shoot but it does start to compound halfway thru a box of ammo so we seem to be on the same page here.

They must get one Hell of a good price on those recoil pads to make up for all the loss of recommendations (revenue) they would have got from the fans of the Tikka!

Really… that’s strange I have the same tikka in 308 it don’t kick at all. I can shoot it like a pistol if I wanted and I am a small guy only 5.7 tall. It’s my daughters Gun.

Great rifle

I purchased a weatherby vanguard and was pleasantly surprised. It was SOOO smooth. The bolt was snug in the raceway. Like the old Remington 721 used to be made.

@@gadgethunter5732 they’re amazing rifles. The regular synthetic weatherguard and badlands editions usually cost less than $800 and have cerakoted barreled actions. One of the best values out there, especially for someone wanting a Weatherby caliber.

@@sethgriffin6014 I agree. Trigger was nice. Everything was nice about it. And accurate to boot.

What kind of recoil pad?

@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 just one from Amazon, nothing fancy. Just soft to the touch.

I was going to mention the model 70 as well. Don’t they have a version heavier than the Featherweight, sporter or Alaskan?

Sporter. I have a 1970 Sporter .270 Win. Nice and heavy. I want a new Sporter , but I can't find any.

@@currituck I know, I shopped for one but it showed as if out of production. So I ended up with the Featherweight. It is nice, but I’ve always been a fan of heavier barrels. We’ll see how good it shoots. 😎👍

My grandfather when he passed gave me an old Remington model 660 carbine bolt action .308 and it has the tiny 20 inch barrel. It’s so much nicer in the mountains here. I agree we need some shorter barreled options.

I can’t find a waypoint in stock anywhere. Really want to try 6mm in one

Why 6.8 western? It’s a marketing cartridge. I wouldn’t waste my time with it. It won’t do anything the 7mm mag won’t do better.

Waypoint is overrated. Cheap af and not a great CF barrel. Get a proof instead

Springfield and Rock River, nope.

I think you should still get a Tikka in your hands. The reason they have a bad kick at first is because of the stiff factory butt pad. Throw an aftermarket limbsaver on instead and it'll be golden. If you've never owned a Tikka before once you feel that bolt you'll be hooked.

@@gavinolson-gwin5368 Good advice. I had a look today and loved the Tikka but for my use I couldn’t justify the upgrade to $1750. I decided on the Mauser M18. Can’t wait to pick it up and have a shot.

“Ultralite”….9.5 lbs lol.

@@Inveniam22 with it being fully loaded and with a suppressor that’s rather impressive

@@Inveniam22 A simple 3-9 scope with rings and base is about 1 lb. A suppressor weighs about 1.25 lbs. A sling weighs about .5lbs and a loaded magazine is about 0 .25lb.. That's about 3 lbs That's means a scope, sling and ammunition generally adds about 3 lbs. His fully dressed rifle weighs 9.5 lbs. That means the rifle alone weighed just 6 to 6.5 lbs.

I will second this. For the price. Can't find a better rifle. Only wish it had a floor plate for easier unloading

@@timothy8890 I have a Marlin 270 that was recommended by a gun smith. I love it, it is super accurate and the price was awesome.

I can't hit shit with mine in 3006. How many shots do you get off before the barrel warms up?

Same here. I started hunting with the same 30-06 I use now and it's a 1950 Winchester M70 my dad gave me with a Nikon 3-9x i put on it 15 years ago. It feels lucky and I've taken so many deer with it I lost count. I don't care what it weighs.

Also started hunting 40 years ago with a Winchester model 94 in 32 Winchester Special, still have that rifle. My grandson will be using it this year. My grandfather's and my dad hunted with a 30-06 and I still do too. More deer and Elk have been taken with the 30-06 than any other caliber in my circle of friends and family.

that's funny in that '70s I started shooting the 32 special first gun I have around good times I move to the Ruger from 77 the rear Tang safety

Another good choice 👍

Yes a great choice and who doesn't like the ping at the end

Ditto. Mine is unbelievably accurate. Struggle with the trigger of course. However.... It is kinda funny how when I really focus it just threads the needle. I'll miss the 70 yard shot i dont focus with. But the last miraculous hit was a lazor measured 360 yard on a coyote right in the ear, which was where I intended. It does this kinda stuff consistantly. My buddy spots a ground squirrel at 300 n change. Calls it to me . And my buddys just shake their heads while snuggling their beautiful and expensive 22- 250's....

Right on. Have s friend who has one. Has a gun cabinet full of new rifles but when its deer season out comes the 7600. The best shot I've ever see with that gun in his hands.

Great sport lighting rifle

Most people would say that it is. Even among the worst among "regular" calibers. I'm not saying you are, but if you *are* a 350lbs fataess with decent arm strength, it may explain why it doesn't kick. It should knock most regular sized people fairly off sight at 45m+, even with like a bipod.

@@Gonken88 Not sure what being knocked off target has to do with excessive recoil? Any round you are going to point at an animal bigger than a woodchuck should knock you aff target. I'm not sure who your "most people" is but the overwhelming majority of individuals I interact with would agree with that statement. The 30-06 is not a 425 Westley Richards, and thousands of those were shot just fine without any type of brake. Stock design, fit, and rifle weight go a long way

@@noyb72 You want me to explain how getting knocked off target correlates to excessive recoil? Ehm, are you sure you're not being willfully dense now? Nobody's comparing it to a .700 nitro express or something, but it's still considered to have a nasty recoil, especially with a heavy bullet. Your logic of "everything has a recoil and it's not as bad as a worse caliber" kind of only proves that you're aware of what I've already stated but unwilling to admit that I have a point. Or maybe you are 350lbs 😏

@@Gonken88 I believe our definition of the word "excessive" is different. What does losing sight picture have to do with hunting? It should take one bullet (yes, I have a few single shot rifles.) If you shoot at an animal over some arbitrary number between 30-50 pounds, the cartridge you use should be expected to generate adequate recoil for you to lose the sight picture, unless you are shooting from a stand with something like a bench rest weight rifle. Excessive recoil, to me and most of the people I know, is recoil adequate to generate enough concern about the pain resultant from firing that the hunter can't dedicate 100% of their attention to making the most accurate shot possible. Certainly, those calibers exist for most people, but 30-06 isn't one of them for most.

@@noyb72 Obviously it is - I define it as something that's worse than most regular calibers like 308 or 5.56 or 22 etc while you define it as something that nearly dislocates your shoulder. "What does losing sight picture have to do with hunting" - aside from the fact that a follow up shot becomes harder, nothing I guess, but we're talking about recoil not hunting. You asked how a heavy recoil correlated to getting knocked off target, which is kind of a bullshit question as it answers itself; a bigger recoil knocks you more off target. Then you move the subject into a hunting issue when the issue really solely was just whether a 30-06 has an "above avg" recoil, or "excessive" (excessive literally meaning something that's more than "normal", normal meaning average). The fact that people that you know are hard cases who scoff at a 30-06 really doesn't change the fact that it's vividly known for having a snappy, uncomfortable recoil. Whether you or your social clique consider it to be excessive by your own definition of the term is pretty irrelevant. It's not a caliber that the average built person would consider comfortable firing off a lot of rounds in a row with as the recoil is enough of an issue for the caliber to have gained a rep for this exact reason. That you or your buddies don't personally agree with that is a pretty weak argument.

Shot my garand finally this weekend, what a heavy gun haha. It definitely speaks with more authority than most my other guns, probably because it’s a world war champ.

I think its neat you can replace the barrel and bolt in the field. go from 30-06 to 300 win mag very easily with detachable scope.

Agree, my 5'3" wife shoots a T3x superlite in 30-06 with the limbsaver recoil pad and can shoot it all day.

@@robertegeberg7205 I was very surprised how well the Limbsaver worked.

My 6.5 featherweight with a metal but plate is absolutely brutal. A 40 round session will lead me tender for a day after.

The limbsaver makes a huge difference. I added them on all my larger caliber hunting rifles and recoil isn't an issue at all anymore.

I bought a Stocky’s LRC M50 for one of my rifles and it came with one of the airtechs or whatever installed. It’s probably the best recoil pad I’ve ever used. I hear that Pachmayr decelerators are great as well.

If I ever find a Remington 3006 721 there will be a bidding war its like finding the holey grail of rifles

@@rickmay2346 My Dad bought that gun for me when I was 15 (41 years ago) at a gun show. I refinished the stock and it was gorgeous. And I shot two nice bucks with it.

Definitely. I shoot the T3x in .300 win mag. Unthreaded. I changed the pad to a limbsaver before the first shot. Recoil is absolutely not an issue to me with that rifle. Wouldn't hesitate to get it in .30-06. Plus it's available in lefty, which the bergaras, vanguard, etc are not.

Agree with you I don’t feel the tikka with more recoil than others. Great rifle super accurate. I love it.

I got a 2020 browning BAR mk-II safari in 30-06 with boss and I can tell you the barrel does come free floating and the magazine is detachable.

I had an XL7 in .308 several years ago. I put it into a Boyd's laminated stock. For whatever reason, that rifle beat the crap out of me on the bench. It seemed nothing I did helped tame the recoil. My primary deer rifle now is a 1953 model 70 sporter in .270 with a 24" barrel. Even though my model 70 has a lot of drop to the comb, and has an aluminum butt plate it is a very mild shooter. I think that the way a rifle stock fits has a big impact on felt recoil. It's possible that I wasn't holding the butt pad of that XL7 square to my shoulder, and was allowing the top part of the pad to climb up above my shoulder. Anyway, the XL7 was a handsome, accurate, and well made rifle. I wish I still had it, as I'm sure I could've sorted out the recoil issues knowing what I know now.

Winchester model 70 in 30,06 old school still best ever elk rifle

The most wanted guns still today. But hard to find pre 64 models!!

they need to be a remmy 700

@@terrymcclendon2277 Older Remington 700s were great. Newer Remington guns are not worthy of the Remington name.

Have you tried getting the stock cut down to fit your trigger pull? I have to on all my rifles, except my win 94, makes a big difference

@@Mountainghost72 I'm doing that on some rifles now, but definitely would have been good to know earlier for sure. Saved me a few bucks for sure! Between that and cross dominance, working out what works best for me has been an adventure!

I subed as well 👍🏼

What ranges do you normally hunt at? What part of the country also?

How does the Lupo handle the recoil of the 300WM

@@pan8a I'm not sure if I can answer that question. I regularly shoot .300 Win Mag, 9.3x62, 8x68S and 10.3x68 Magnum, so I guess I just got used to recoil. However, I think most shooters can handle the recoil of a .300 Win Mag. If you can't, you can still use a suppressor or muzzle break to reduce recoil.