Backing into Amtrak's NEW Denver Terminal

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Backing into Amtrak's NEW Denver Terminal

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Amtrak Train #6, the eastbound California Zephyr, backs into the brand new Denver Union Station, which will soon support both light and commuter rail. The throat of the new terminal is non-interlocked and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Amtrak trains must snake through the BNSF yard before reversing into the station.
Such are the contradictions in American rail transport.

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@K1_Trains 6 жыл бұрын

For all those saying oh this is very messy at the time union station was still being worked on they opened it because they had too fast foward today its pretty much all done and less messy

@scdevon 2 жыл бұрын

Great rear view car shove. The radio banter between the Conductor and the engine is a nice catch.

@ralphblack1381 7 жыл бұрын

great shot. wish we have Amtrak service were I live including a beautiful transit center. Nope! Columbus Ohio doesn't have shit for passenger rail service. All we have is crap bus service and out of date interstate highways. Columbus Ohio needs one too...

@captainkeyboard1007 3 жыл бұрын

I am glad that Amtrak is going to so many states in America. Amtrak deserves to have a nice new terminal in Denver. I hope that Congress will give support funds to Amtrak.

@BobbyHarveyVideoProductions 10 жыл бұрын

Excellent video! A much better place than the temporary station we backed into when I rode last year.

@williamgant5463 8 жыл бұрын

+Bobby Harvey The Temporary Station was so that they could finish this masterpiece. 8 Tracks rather then 4 in the old setup, plus level boarding commuter rail, and light rail 2 blocks west (actually a shorter walk then everyone imagined)

@monica012077 5 жыл бұрын

I loved riding the California Zephyr and I remember backing into this beautiful station. Such a great little tidbit. Was hoping the Superliners would merge. So who stole who's shirt? Lol

@MyLooneyBin 7 жыл бұрын

Nice video, something you don't see every day

@ancylostomiasis 7 жыл бұрын

It's beautiful, though I thought it would be larger.

@janisjade1 10 жыл бұрын

Great video.

@dcplyr 5 жыл бұрын

Denver is such a clean city.

@stewartdeerfield 5 жыл бұрын

What part of Denver you live in?

@Chicagojoe28 7 жыл бұрын

Nice footage!

@geomodelrailroader 6 жыл бұрын

Zephyr has arrived in Denver now to pick up that coach and head to Beech Grove.

@clsumjr 10 жыл бұрын

I can see someone like's DIANA ROSS upside down song they are whistling to the song LOL

@PositionLight 10 жыл бұрын

I don't think it was me.

@leehall727 8 жыл бұрын

Knowing what kind of weather Denver has, i find it difficult to believe they expect to have passenger loading and unloading OUTSIDE !!

@scdevon 6 жыл бұрын

Denver is the high desert. It's actually quite mild there most of the year.

@K1_Trains 5 жыл бұрын

plus the whole terminal waiting room/train hall is inside plus there is undeground bus terminal that goes under the tracks that people can wait there too

@garyhall6294 6 жыл бұрын

Been on that train several times as it did this. Seems like it takes forever...especially when you're continuing on and need to get something to eat.

@MrLuvOldies 8 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@timdaugherty706 8 жыл бұрын

I like the old platforms

@carolynsteed3649 11 ай бұрын

This looks nerveracking, I guess the engineers are used to this😂

@churchilly_man1012 7 жыл бұрын

God damnit Fred always taking my shirts!!

@billbutler5754 6 жыл бұрын

Churchilly_man 101 t

@bobmartin3 10 жыл бұрын

#2 will b the new/Improved Desert wind.

@bruce_adams 9 жыл бұрын

Mike, thanks for posting this really interesting video. Two questions: 1) Did you ride the CZ beyond Denver? 2) Did your train pick up the Superliner parked at the end of the track you backed in on?

@PositionLight 9 жыл бұрын

Yes and yes.

@granskare 8 жыл бұрын

it has been like this for a long time.

@sheka216 6 жыл бұрын

been there several times via amtrak

@michaelglass4701 10 жыл бұрын

awesome

@MarkInLA 4 жыл бұрын

4:04 Guess there's no longer any need for dwarf signals at the throat....

@qolspony 4 жыл бұрын

"The throat of the new terminal is non-interlocked and will remain so for the foreseeable future." Very impractical.

@PositionLight 4 жыл бұрын

It's interlocked now xD

@gravelydon7072 8 жыл бұрын

Sure doesn't look like it did when I was last there. The area where the tracks are now was just a vacant lot. Our special left from there heading to Yellowstone and Glacier National Parks. And finally ended in Seattle where the PVs went there own ways. 9 days Denver to Seattle. :-D

@connorpack3735 8 жыл бұрын

+gravelydon What route did it take into Yellowstone?

@gravelydon7072 8 жыл бұрын

+Connor Pack Denver, Boulder, Ft Collins, Cheyenne, Casper, Thermopolis, Greybull, Laurel, Livingston by train. Red Lodge in and Gardiner out by car from and back to Livingston.

@goaway9978 8 жыл бұрын

i was there getting on

@divox9pqr 8 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, I see, now that he's backed fully...the line ends (spur) there, also like end of the line in Chicago.

@Amtrak507 10 жыл бұрын

So Amtrak will always have to back into the depot? I didn't see any through tracks there. Also why are there so many tracks and extra Amtrak cars? Only 1 route serves the station. Commuter rail is coming too right? Sorry, just from Eugene, Oregon. Think this new depot looks sweet, just confused with the layout with just 1 Amtrak train

@PositionLight 10 жыл бұрын

New commuter rail line with a viaduct that will bypass all the yard movement. Amtrak will still have to wye LD trainsets.

@calif1mc 10 жыл бұрын

Jersey Mike's Rail Videos I hope the Pioneer is restored soon, it is planned to connect/split up with the Zephyr at Denver. pioneertrain.org/

@billchambers1456 9 жыл бұрын

+Amtrak507 They turned Denver Union Station into a transportation hub when they redid it recently. There is a bus terminal below ground now for city buses. Amtrak, of course goes through there, and they are starting commuter rail pretty soon. There is also light rail in Denver that stops at Union Station. Plus there are also hotels and retail areas in or right next to the building. DUS has become quite a place.

@geoffreylee5199 6 жыл бұрын

This was once a through station, why turn it into a stub-end?

@PositionLight 6 жыл бұрын

That was for trains approaching from the south.

@jeremywilliams5675 9 жыл бұрын

are you able to ride at the end when backing into the station?

@PositionLight 9 жыл бұрын

Its the last sleeper so yes.

@jeremywilliams5675 9 жыл бұрын

Jersey Mike's Rail Videos Okay thanks :)

@thomabb 8 жыл бұрын

Did anyone notice the switch that can be seen at 2:42 isn't aligned correctly?

@johnfahey7681 7 жыл бұрын

Must just push it out of the way. Train wins again.

@rcrailfan55 7 жыл бұрын

good eye man!, didn't notice that

@jwslijm7278 7 жыл бұрын

Correct!

@zackboone15 6 жыл бұрын

No, it is aligned right. Angle trick. The way its framed makes it look like the train is on the merging track, but in actuality its on the through track.

@6484373 5 жыл бұрын

No it was, go back a little further in the video, the train is on the track to the left

@Crosshead1 6 жыл бұрын

Having recently caught the California Zephyr from Emeryville, CA. to Chicago, IL., I was rather amused by the way the train backed into both Denver and Chicago. It seemed like a terribly ungracious way to enter a city train station, almost apologetic, like someone really screwed up the station design. But apart from this peculiar practice, I really enjoyed the trip.

@ivanoffw 5 жыл бұрын

Don't they have to back into LA Union?

@grebnellok 10 жыл бұрын

What I find most interesting about this video is #6 pulling into Denver in daylight. It's a rarity.

@PositionLight 10 жыл бұрын

Longest day of the year.

@PositionLight 10 жыл бұрын

howardkevinm Only about 2.

@ambies2491 10 жыл бұрын

Jersey Mike's Rail Videos

@markfowler6330 8 жыл бұрын

It used to be a "through" station; i.e. it wasn't a dead end. Correct?

@jsp7202 8 жыл бұрын

Took the California Zephyr back in 1986 and I can remember backing into Denver past row upon row of cascade green BNSF diesels.

@allanegleston13 7 жыл бұрын

looks like a stub terminal.

@PositionLight 7 жыл бұрын

It is.

@billsmith5985 8 жыл бұрын

Could you tell me where this NEW (ho-ho) Denver Amtrak station is located?

@PositionLight 8 жыл бұрын

+Bill Smith Same place as the old one. You can't miss it.

@ruffian2952 4 жыл бұрын

Did it cost as much as Denver's new airport?

@PositionLight 4 жыл бұрын

No.

@jwslijm7278 7 жыл бұрын

So breaking the crossover at 2:49.

@PositionLight 7 жыл бұрын

Hmm?

@divox9pqr 8 жыл бұрын

Backing into Denver Terminal is similar to the way the Cardinal backs into, or used to back into Cincinnati's terminal, and Washington DC for the Capital Ltd. Seems odd though that Amtrak would do it that way...seems incomplete. What's on the other side of the terminal in Denver, or is that where the line ends...Anybody know?

@williamgant5463 8 жыл бұрын

+Rodney Brown The Pepsi Center. But Amtrak approaches from the North East on Westbount moves, and Departs to the North West, and vise versa. DUS is aligned north south. There is no way to get back on the track to Arvada from the south, that track runs straight to Colorado Springs. The only time this would really be a problem is if we get Amtrak Service south to Colorado Springs and Pueblo, which is currently being talked about, but with some clever trackwork, you could easily still depart from the north end of DUS, and end up on the southbound tracks, its just going to be slow speeds and as sharp a curve as the interlocking at Chicago Union Station.

@divox9pqr 8 жыл бұрын

Got it...Thanks

@kendufresne 8 жыл бұрын

Can you see Coors Field from the train at DUS?

@PositionLight 8 жыл бұрын

+Ken Dufresne Yes.

@djfitzgerald111 8 жыл бұрын

This is actually common at a number of terminals. Even at Chicago's Union Station, the majority of tracks are stub ended. However, since most trains originate or terminate there, nobody notices. Lastly, I believe the City of New Orleans backs out of Chicago onto the St Charles Air Line while the inbound CONO backs in. Maybe someone can clarify that.

@jamielacourse7578 2 жыл бұрын

If I only had a caboose........hmmmm.......

@hawktb9 10 жыл бұрын

And of course, Congress won't do anything to help Amtrak create its own system independent of freight lines.

@davidbarnett9312 9 жыл бұрын

howardkevinm And, passenger tickets are heavily subsidized by the tax payers. Amtrak is a losing government run proposition, so what else is new.

@Liamflynnphoto 8 жыл бұрын

Make it a private organization and Amtrak will flourish. It's already making the money but all the money it makes goes to the government. If Amtrak becomes a private organization then no doubt will it start to do a better job

@PositionLight 8 жыл бұрын

+Liam Flynn Amtrak's farebox recovery is 92%. That's good, but it still need public funding. Also that doesn't count capitol expenses.

@SmithConductor 7 жыл бұрын

5:09 "Nice Shorts!" lol

@shauntrailskinner9645 5 жыл бұрын

@Rails & Wings Of Houston I did not see any shorts.

@charlesdell2864 10 жыл бұрын

Just like Florida.

@christophercutler9594 6 жыл бұрын

Time is clearly not of the essence at Amtrak

@DakarNick 6 жыл бұрын

The schedule has time built in for the backup moves.

@101southsideboy 9 жыл бұрын

what does non-interlock mean?

@PositionLight 9 жыл бұрын

No signaling, no train detection, hand worked switched, etc.

@williamgant5463 8 жыл бұрын

+Jersey Mike's Rail Videos Not for much longer.....should be interlocked come April

@mdz225 9 жыл бұрын

Hygy

@kiqw 9 жыл бұрын

American trains and railroads are a mess. I have ridden trains in France and Italy and enjoyed it but here it is an ordeal at best. Even Thailand with its somewhat dated equipment does a better job than Amtrak.

@Liamflynnphoto 8 жыл бұрын

Funny you say that. You get that from one video on a station that's brand new and you have to back into. Most of amtraks stations don't do that. The trains I've ridden on are comfortable and service was great. The Amtrak Acela has accounted for so many passengers between NYP and DC that some airlines have stopped flying to DC all together. So if we're doing such a bad job then tell me this: why do people keep riding to train?

@MrJohnRosenberg 8 жыл бұрын

+Liam Flynn Los Angeles union is also set up where the SW Chief, sunset, and coast starlight all have to back in as well (err they nose in for arrival then turn the entire consist for departure

@factChecker01 6 жыл бұрын

The US has much heavier cargo traffic that takes priority.

@tibbers3755 6 жыл бұрын

And you bring it here to bring what point? Rail travel isnt as efficient in the US as it is in other nations. Note how they all have much lower landmass and denser populations. As such, not as much money goes towards. Cut us all the BS

@ivanoffw 5 жыл бұрын

@@tibbers3755 when and where are the proper time and place for kiqw to bring up his comment?