Bad disc brakes on this Prevost bus. Rusty and seized calipers. Brake fire waiting to happen!

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Bus Grease Monkey

Bus Grease Monkey

4 күн бұрын

A pile of rust on the ground and an assortment if broken tools tells the story of the day on this bus. The rusted brake caliper and rotor that should have been replaced decades ago are complete trash now.

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@user-uv4mg4ve9p
@user-uv4mg4ve9p 2 күн бұрын
I had no idea that buses that look so nice on the outside could be a total disaster on the inside with decades of delayed maintenance.
@BusGreaseMonkey
@BusGreaseMonkey 2 күн бұрын
Every bus that looks good usually is a nightmare underneath.
@deanh7190
@deanh7190 2 күн бұрын
@@BusGreaseMonkey That's why buses, like boats, should be referred to as 'she'.
@darrenstafford7492
@darrenstafford7492 2 күн бұрын
My thought on this is, don't be so concerned about how much it costs as opposed to can you afford the maintenance?
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 2 күн бұрын
Yeah seen it time and again. Pretty bus often means Struggle Bus.
@turnintires6199
@turnintires6199 Күн бұрын
⁠haha that makes me laugh, my friend oh my goodness
@russnixon6020
@russnixon6020 2 күн бұрын
Scott, you have taught me to stay the hell away from private coaches on the highway. Thank you!
@schizy
@schizy 2 күн бұрын
This bus is a very graphic example of what winter road salt can do to any vehicle. Only road salt can be this destructive!
@jamiesuejeffery
@jamiesuejeffery 2 күн бұрын
I drove those coaches commercially when they just came off the line. How can they be this old? I know I am not that old!
@rdeanhanson
@rdeanhanson 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for posting this…. better than watching the debate!!
@jaygraham5407
@jaygraham5407 Күн бұрын
Anything better than watching worthless politics
@jaygraham5407
@jaygraham5407 Күн бұрын
Those Budd wheels look beyond the end of their life
@jaygraham5407
@jaygraham5407 Күн бұрын
Very poor shipping on Prevost part Sad!!!! Disgusting!!!
@jaygraham5407
@jaygraham5407 Күн бұрын
Poor, poor, poor maintenance. Oops!! NO maintenance
@rdeanhanson
@rdeanhanson Күн бұрын
@@jaygraham5407 You do know your posts are in response to mine…right?
@justfun985
@justfun985 2 күн бұрын
As I have gotten older (now 70) I just replace everything (Rotor and calipers on cars) it is just easier, cheaper safer in the long run.
@moshebron2105
@moshebron2105 2 күн бұрын
Absolutely insane, why isn't there a way to hold bad/ dangerous mechanics accountable? I just worked on a trailer, it had 3 Haldex and 1 meritor slack adjuster, basically only 3 brakes were working. This bus could've easily gone up in flames. Neither of us has any legal way to hold the previous mechanic accountable.
@dhyde9207
@dhyde9207 2 күн бұрын
Well, so much for the air vs. cordless strength argument.
@BusGreaseMonkey
@BusGreaseMonkey 2 күн бұрын
Milwaukee has a new version of the 1/2” that is more powerful
@theprofessorfate6184
@theprofessorfate6184 32 минут бұрын
IR makes pneumatic 1in that are a lot more powerful (2000 ftlbs) than the old bluepoint he owns and they cost cost about 700 bucks. Cordless is bullshit in a shop, especially when you consider the fact it isn't going to last as long as a pneumatic tool and isn't nearly as durable.
@billtodd6509
@billtodd6509 2 күн бұрын
A long time ago, a n old retired Roadway line mechanic showed me a way to help loosen a bunch of lugnuts like that. while one guy is hammering on the nut with the impact, another guy hammers straight down on the socket with a heavy hammer. It really helped me with those stubborn ones. Also Keine Tools makes a specialty fixture just made for truck disc brakes(air) that you can just jack them up and roll them away. Have a nice day.
@chuckvanvleet1268
@chuckvanvleet1268 2 күн бұрын
A little heat goes a long ways
@BusGreaseMonkey
@BusGreaseMonkey 2 күн бұрын
A little heat doesn’t usually do anything. A lot of heat we go to often but it wasn’t needed
@chuckvanvleet1268
@chuckvanvleet1268 2 күн бұрын
That bus looks like it came from Ohio or new York glad your getting it fixed
@deanh7190
@deanh7190 2 күн бұрын
I was at first impressed with the Prevost access panels for maintenance until you pointed out the sharp impalers left behind. I would have stuck a piece of packing foam on those because certainly my head would find them.
@philipmarmo2132
@philipmarmo2132 2 күн бұрын
Couple tips from a 45 year machinist... take the extension off the Milwaukee. The extension absorbs a lot of shock without it.. that Shock will go directly to the socket and break Free More difficult nuts... also rap the top with a heavy hammer when you soak them and every now and then when they don't come Free... the shock helps loosen the thread and migrate the penetrating oil deeper... But it's mostly the shock.. You can get a high frequency to go right through that bolt ..
@BusGreaseMonkey
@BusGreaseMonkey 2 күн бұрын
Extensions loose lots of torque. That is not an extension on the Milwaukee it’s the anvil.
@jeffreyyoung8727
@jeffreyyoung8727 2 күн бұрын
This man and his understudy are capable of anything!
@dennisreeves632
@dennisreeves632 2 күн бұрын
Some of the stuff you guys see in just insane. I hope other maintenance people watch your videos and learn something.
@ken911356
@ken911356 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the entertainment = struggling with tough jobs. As an Aussie I cannot believe the corrosion that can occur in vehicles in your environment. I have 60 year old cars with no rust. Keep up the good work
@nomdeplume3711
@nomdeplume3711 15 сағат бұрын
Ken, you have less water and you have no ice so you have no salt so you have no rust.
@51actual
@51actual 2 күн бұрын
Scott, put tennis balls with some tape on sharp parts.
@51actual
@51actual 2 күн бұрын
Meaning, make a hole in the tennis ball. We use it in film as eye protection from sharp things.
@lenscap8925
@lenscap8925 Күн бұрын
@@51actual Was at a movie setup the other morning and the gaffers had unloaded their truck (space was at a premium) and a cart with color coded "C" stands with a milk crate of yellow tennis balls was in the cart stack. Looking around I saw their use, got to think for everyone on a set...
@normmcrae1140
@normmcrae1140 2 күн бұрын
You can send that Brake Rotor down to Clarke Easterling at Windy Hill Foundry and he'll recycle it for you! 🤣
@risby1930
@risby1930 2 күн бұрын
Great channel reminds me of my dad's shop, only they were working on semi's. The busses are different, but the size of gear and problems are similar.
@208miuwu
@208miuwu 9 сағат бұрын
I`m always amazed of knowledge here on this channel. Scott is a walking breathing book of experience.
@shrconstruction
@shrconstruction 2 күн бұрын
I'd fluid film the entire chassis....I'm in the rust belt and I use fluid film on all my vehicles, motorcoach, trailers, tractors, ect... i put that stuff on everything.....i gave up on removing rust up here, just keeping it at bay is cost effective.
@jaygraham5407
@jaygraham5407 Күн бұрын
I am firm believer in Fluid Film
@timdubois407
@timdubois407 Күн бұрын
You fellows do such great work. Look forward to each video.
@Watts378
@Watts378 2 күн бұрын
Another great episode! I love how you always put safety first when working with your guys 👍👍
@foxlake6750
@foxlake6750 21 сағат бұрын
The young lad should have had safety glass removing the lug nut, after seeing that socket break…..😮
@randyc8171
@randyc8171 2 күн бұрын
The labor for the repairs will be more than the coach is worth.
@justfun985
@justfun985 2 күн бұрын
I never used rachets till I had stuff broke loose because they could break. (big farm equipment with big bolts). LOL we used a lot bigger cheater bars as there was more open space on farm equipment. (my uncle was 6-4 230) We also lost a lot of sockets as he dropped the tools where we worked once the job was done. I would like to get a metal detector and sweep the spots we worked. Bet we would find several sets of tools.
@justfun985
@justfun985 2 күн бұрын
Great testament (reason for) impact sockets and breaker bars LOL
@garyharrington5300
@garyharrington5300 2 күн бұрын
I've allways said ,don't paint your studs and nuts😎👍
@haroldconover5221
@haroldconover5221 2 күн бұрын
What a rust bucket 🪣
@dth2brny121
@dth2brny121 Күн бұрын
This Prevost did serve its previous life in the Salt Lake City area...and we all know what that means.
@jacvanguilder3456
@jacvanguilder3456 2 күн бұрын
Now you can get an idea of what it was like , repairing busses and coaches for NYC transit
@gwharton68
@gwharton68 2 күн бұрын
I was taught many years ago, that you do not use a ratchet wrench in high torque situations. Always use flex head bar. I guess things have changed in the last 60 years.
@fatmuscle1
@fatmuscle1 Күн бұрын
Wow, this has been the most amusing video yet, albeit at your expense. A serious amount of work!
@greglammers9905
@greglammers9905 17 сағат бұрын
Those removable side are nice for when you have to chain up out west too. Been there done that.The D.O.T. Would have had a field day with that rotor. It really surprises me that bus did not burn down with those calipers as bad as they were! Wow. I cannot tell you how many ratchets,breaker bars, and sockets we broke over the years taking those caliper bolts out. We had the luxury of having an in ground hoist, so we would use a 3/4 breaker bar with a pipe, use a jack stand to support the pipe and let the hoist down. Lol
@Ar.maverick
@Ar.maverick 2 күн бұрын
I guess all this work is cause by the lack of proper maintenance over the years. its amazing that you can really get this stuff apart and have anything left to work with,
@jamesmckenzie3532
@jamesmckenzie3532 2 күн бұрын
That was impressive breaking that many and the type of tools. Lots more work to go though. Someone did this bus massively wrong.
@richardjulien8745
@richardjulien8745 2 күн бұрын
it looks that this bus had a lack of maintenance and it is stuck with rust .May be this bus was decomitionned for quit a long time or that bus run in winter with salt and abrasive and remember this bus has been built in a place called ST-CLAIRE ,QUEBEC with rough winter ,so good luck for the rest of your repairs.
@yambo59
@yambo59 2 күн бұрын
I was in a couple railroad shops years ago and I noticed the tools for the really big bolts were just thick plates steel stampings with the six point hex on one end and the handle end was made for either a hammer or very large extension bar --- no harbor freight ratchets or breaker bars or ratchets of any kind above a certain size - I also saw what had to be some of the biggest dam impact wrenches on the planet, looked like around inch and a half or inch and a quarter drive with sockets that would likely break your foot if you dropped one on it. I assume this kind of thing in the video is why.
@Superior2020
@Superior2020 20 сағат бұрын
Wow I love how much access there is with the panels off. Maintenance should be dumb easy with all that room
@michaelchamberlain4618
@michaelchamberlain4618 2 күн бұрын
I've had to put a 243 lb starter in on the outside of an engine on the ship mostly on my head never any fun. You get it done.
@Hntrsfanclub
@Hntrsfanclub 2 күн бұрын
Scott, this is probably one of the worst buses you have had to work on. I can appreciate the issues you have in North America because of road salt but I suggest that the state of this vehicle, the rust everywhere, general neglect, driving it on the roads borders almost on criminal neglect. The condition of this bus has taken years, not weeks! Its is shameful that anyone has let this vehicle get to its current state of general disrepair. I certainly hope that you can get it to a condition that makes it relatively safe to drive on the road, and I hope something can be done about the treatment of the overall rust. The very best of luck to you.
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 2 күн бұрын
Trust me, he's seen worse.
@mattgates2191
@mattgates2191 Күн бұрын
That 1950’s bus they just did was no picnic either. Old buses seem like a lot of labor. 😂
@failranch9542
@failranch9542 Күн бұрын
That Milwaukee looks like a mini anti-aircraft gun. And Kroil is not overrated.
@lloydrobinson7081
@lloydrobinson7081 Күн бұрын
having a lot of fun with that bus, keep the clips coming
@The_Smith
@The_Smith 2 күн бұрын
That Icon ratchet was an impressive break I was expecting the yoke to break if any thing did.
@twin40dave
@twin40dave 2 күн бұрын
Wow, to break that many tools, so far ... on such a young bus, good luck with the front end 😊
@jerrycanada8271
@jerrycanada8271 Күн бұрын
Jonathan is a beast! Great assistant
@jerrycanada8271
@jerrycanada8271 Күн бұрын
Never again will I look at a shiny coach or RV in the same way. This RV is/was a disaster.
@paulthompson1654
@paulthompson1654 2 күн бұрын
Sounds like my sons 1st car ,, yes one owner vehicle yet every thing I MEAN every thing needs servicing .
@motorcoachtech7615
@motorcoachtech7615 2 күн бұрын
Lots of seized things on that Knorr-Bremse brake caliper. Tappets, pins. Probably had water egressed at the booster seal. A real struggle. Don’t miss those days!
@erik_dk842
@erik_dk842 2 күн бұрын
Private coaches should be pulled in for random roadside safety inspection.
@bradolsen8629
@bradolsen8629 22 сағат бұрын
A young bus wow that’s a new one. I thought he was going to say it was a newer bus.
@garyolafson8303
@garyolafson8303 2 күн бұрын
Good luck trying to get these Lug Nuts off on the side of the road. Oh, well I've had a similar problem getting Lug Nuts off on my 4 wheeler after a Car Dealer visit
@justfun985
@justfun985 2 күн бұрын
Sometimes, I threaded the bolt of nut back on a little to get the bolt nut out of the socket. Hammering the socket or the bolt on the floor or with a hammer sometimes worked it loose.
@mfc4591
@mfc4591 2 күн бұрын
Never paint threads ! There is much discussion on the next comment, but I have NEVER had a problem. I apply a very thin layer of anti seize to wheel nuts, then I apply the correct torque with a torque wrench. Works like a charm. Mostly because I am the guy who has to remove the wheel next time !
@BusGreaseMonkey
@BusGreaseMonkey 2 күн бұрын
No wheel manufacturers recommend anti seize on threads. None. Lubricated threads are a totally different torque value. Clean and dry with proper torque is perfect. Over torqued wheels from idiot installers is the problem.
@stevebyrne4235
@stevebyrne4235 2 күн бұрын
Looked brutal; great channel
@JW-hv8uo
@JW-hv8uo 2 күн бұрын
That brake system is a mess. Good job making it safe. Heavy duty stuff!
@donw3912
@donw3912 2 күн бұрын
I have never seen one rig...let alone one wheel/axle break so many tools. The kicker is that the rig is not horribly old...like Lenny. As for the ratchet failure...I thought the same thing as you did as to teeth/guts failing before the case. It makes me wonder how the tool mfr tests/breaks tools when they are in the design stage. A great video on a heckuva nightmare scenario...imagine if it had gotten a flat... You guys never cease to amaze me with the rigs you have brought to you and how many were just a hair away from something catastrophic happening. The motoring public thanks you in all that you do fixing other peoples eff ups and making things safe again🙂
@stevenrobinson2381
@stevenrobinson2381 Күн бұрын
Lordy-that is gonna be one SPENDY fix. Disc brakes are outstanding-but when they have deteriorated to that extent-get the Amex Black card out.......
@Charger1908
@Charger1908 2 күн бұрын
All those bolts, nuts and bushings look original. Maybe the shocks could be newer but that’s it. I can’t believe people take care of their equipment so shoddily. At least you can exchange the tools.
@timaustin110
@timaustin110 2 күн бұрын
How your son and his bus going I havent been getting notifications KZfaq for your channel and you are not the only channel
@GinosGarageUSA
@GinosGarageUSA Күн бұрын
Nice, dang that’s alot of work. That bus definitely did much of its service in the salt, guessing the passenger side is always worst because of the build up of slush on most roads goes toward that side. Need to try that 1/2” tite reach on those caliper bolts, I use my 3/4” drive Milwaukee impact on mine all the time and have hammered the crap out of it and it’s still going fine. I bought a backup one when you posted that discount but it’s still in the package so far.
@cmdrdarwin3682
@cmdrdarwin3682 2 күн бұрын
I feel certain that bus sat in salt water for an extended time. That’s a ridiculous amount of rust!
@markfortag4301
@markfortag4301 2 күн бұрын
I wonder if that bus was one of the ones that got flood damage back several years ago in Nashville
@lucmarchand617
@lucmarchand617 2 күн бұрын
This invoice is going little bit up right.insane grease fitting no grease and brake chambers boots noise on this.thanks video again expose this.😮
@pumacat1637
@pumacat1637 2 күн бұрын
Why not use some heat to remove lug nuts
@itsmephil2255
@itsmephil2255 21 сағат бұрын
Here in the UK we have a term for those brake discs .... Well those are well f**ked 👌🏼
@mikepelz7004
@mikepelz7004 Күн бұрын
This must have been Sponge Bob Square Pants coach🐟🐡🐙🐚🦈
@christopherguy1217
@christopherguy1217 2 күн бұрын
Fancy new calliper brakes and old fashioned neglect. Neglect wins every time.
@scrumpydrinker
@scrumpydrinker 2 күн бұрын
With that calliper I am not in the least surprised as the required torque for the securing bolts is about 400 lbs ft. On the Volvo B7L they used cap head screws and could be a challenge the break loose… And those callipers are heavy old things as well. Given the amount of corrosion on the thing I suspect that your tool dealer will be rubbing his hands in glee.
@mchurch3905
@mchurch3905 2 күн бұрын
Salt=job security.
@bruceknowling8633
@bruceknowling8633 Күн бұрын
Part of the problem with the wheel nuts is the paint in the threads.
@Fixingeverthingwithaengine567
@Fixingeverthingwithaengine567 2 күн бұрын
I was told that if a vehicle you looking at is extremely nice outside. Most of the time there is something being hidden. Putting lipstick on a pig it's still a pig.
@kevinirwinirwin7666
@kevinirwinirwin7666 Күн бұрын
It's scary seeing the condition of these buses
@randallvos
@randallvos 2 күн бұрын
Speaking from experience, you may want to have that bus's owner pick up a spare disc brake chamber to carry with, i spent two days trying to find a shop that had one in stock. The chambers for disc brakes are different than the chambers for drum brakes, and don't interchange.........
@dont-want-no-wrench
@dont-want-no-wrench 2 күн бұрын
holy hell how do you even get lugnuts that tight.
@h5mind373
@h5mind373 Күн бұрын
New England road salt.
@timf6916
@timf6916 2 күн бұрын
I’ve never seen a caliber look that bad or a rotor, will take it back. I had metal metal once
@edwinhsingmaster9135
@edwinhsingmaster9135 2 күн бұрын
😅you could save yourselves hours of frustration by using MALTBY Penetrating Oil. Family owned since 1919. I'm an ASE Master tech, been using it for 50 years.
@jaygraham5407
@jaygraham5407 Күн бұрын
These wheels are as tuff to get off as UPS trailer and dolly wheels.
@johnparker7874
@johnparker7874 2 күн бұрын
I believe that the tag axle rim is toast
@matthewromano8801
@matthewromano8801 Күн бұрын
I didnt know they came with disc brakes being how old it is...and who tightened all the bolts on that axle? Donkey Kong himself??
@garybarker9139
@garybarker9139 Күн бұрын
Looks like the sand blasting box will get some use.
@michaelzang9739
@michaelzang9739 Күн бұрын
I think the drum brakes with the S cam are a lot simpler and easier to maintain.
@torchandhammer
@torchandhammer Күн бұрын
This all looks pretty normal up here in Michigan.
@aaronhancock8601
@aaronhancock8601 2 күн бұрын
those brakes have been hot
@richardcorcorran8965
@richardcorcorran8965 2 күн бұрын
Sad, that bus has seen NO Maintenance
@elderrider9298
@elderrider9298 2 күн бұрын
Hammer wrenches work well for getting those bolts off
@garysoykin2783
@garysoykin2783 Күн бұрын
I think hobo Freight will exchange that wrench for you
@jaygraham5407
@jaygraham5407 Күн бұрын
Air disc brakes have not proven themselves to me yet.
@fw1421
@fw1421 2 күн бұрын
Nastiest brakes I’ve ever seen.
@jeromebishsr.1394
@jeromebishsr.1394 8 сағат бұрын
The last wheel you removed appears to have been run with loose luge nuts.
@Kingsoupturbo
@Kingsoupturbo Күн бұрын
Well I understand why Milwaukee makes that insane gun now, heavy-duty is a different world from light cars\trucks.
@jeffogden2982
@jeffogden2982 2 күн бұрын
Must have lived on the east coast.
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 2 күн бұрын
All that metal in the rim was stuff the brake pads were throwing off the rotor!!
@BusGreaseMonkey
@BusGreaseMonkey 2 күн бұрын
He was literally using his fingers to pull flakes and chunks off the rim. Yes some of the pile was from the brakes but the rim is bubbling and deteriorating
@davepink637
@davepink637 2 күн бұрын
I allways wire brush end of threads croil them then tap s flat , more croil , it might give a better start
@gazfish
@gazfish Күн бұрын
Some gorilla must have torqued up those wheel nuts, lucky it didn't need changing at the side of the road
@salmonaco007
@salmonaco007 Күн бұрын
If you have a quick disconnect coupler on 1 inch gun it could restrict air flow they make hi flow quick disconnect couplers try putting air line directly on gun
@joebeach7759
@joebeach7759 Күн бұрын
I've never seen someone break a rachet
@sargentcolon2323
@sargentcolon2323 22 сағат бұрын
Free socket… Now if only you could find another socket wrench to replace the broken one you would be even.
@freetotravel4793
@freetotravel4793 Күн бұрын
No wonder people don't travel in states that use salt on roads. I bet there was a lot of shovelling rust and debris off the floor after it left.
@kevindahlberg7753
@kevindahlberg7753 2 күн бұрын
It looks like a Le Bus coach, they use alot of salt on the roads in Utah
@jamieschultz6664
@jamieschultz6664 Күн бұрын
I have a tire gun I call "Uncle" if it doesn't loosen it it will snap the stud off!
@mariovillavicencio6332
@mariovillavicencio6332 Күн бұрын
That blue point gun actually sucks, should invest in a IR
@mitsnevets
@mitsnevets Күн бұрын
gonna be a shocker when you see the cost of the replacement brake components
@BusGreaseMonkey
@BusGreaseMonkey Күн бұрын
Cheaper than a bus fire or accident
@holdenbrougham1056
@holdenbrougham1056 2 күн бұрын
Got same Milwaukee gun and 12 amp batt ,, many times I go to braker bar and some cheater pipe to give me 2 half meters and I,m 52kg, it works for me unless socket brakes or I slip and go arse up , never happened yet cause I have a idea of 3 points of connection, 2 hands to grab handles or anything for support and then if it won't go with arm strength I go to never fail leg strength 😊 kicks air and Milwaukee arse many times ,, pissing me off that bloody Milwaukee cost us shiploads to buy and many times my cheater bar blitzed it, only good if studs had anti seized on them and not over torque, 2 of worst practices use anti seize and torque wrench, no more issues, bad studs or wheel nuts go in bin
@ewelmo3921
@ewelmo3921 13 сағат бұрын
It's a Florida coach alright... Salt everywhere.
@BusGreaseMonkey
@BusGreaseMonkey 8 сағат бұрын
Salt Lake City
@ewelmo3921
@ewelmo3921 7 сағат бұрын
@@BusGreaseMonkey Wow... ok Didn't realize it was that salty there...
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