A pile of rust on the ground and an assortment if broken tools tells the story of the day on this bus. The rusted brake caliper and rotor that should have been replaced decades ago are complete trash now.
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@user-uv4mg4ve9p2 күн бұрын
I had no idea that buses that look so nice on the outside could be a total disaster on the inside with decades of delayed maintenance.
@BusGreaseMonkey2 күн бұрын
Every bus that looks good usually is a nightmare underneath.
@deanh71902 күн бұрын
@@BusGreaseMonkey That's why buses, like boats, should be referred to as 'she'.
@darrenstafford74922 күн бұрын
My thought on this is, don't be so concerned about how much it costs as opposed to can you afford the maintenance?
@davefroman47002 күн бұрын
Yeah seen it time and again. Pretty bus often means Struggle Bus.
@turnintires6199Күн бұрын
haha that makes me laugh, my friend oh my goodness
@russnixon60202 күн бұрын
Scott, you have taught me to stay the hell away from private coaches on the highway. Thank you!
@schizy2 күн бұрын
This bus is a very graphic example of what winter road salt can do to any vehicle. Only road salt can be this destructive!
@jamiesuejeffery2 күн бұрын
I drove those coaches commercially when they just came off the line. How can they be this old? I know I am not that old!
@rdeanhanson2 күн бұрын
Thanks for posting this…. better than watching the debate!!
@jaygraham5407Күн бұрын
Anything better than watching worthless politics
@jaygraham5407Күн бұрын
Those Budd wheels look beyond the end of their life
@jaygraham5407Күн бұрын
Very poor shipping on Prevost part Sad!!!! Disgusting!!!
@jaygraham5407Күн бұрын
Poor, poor, poor maintenance. Oops!! NO maintenance
@rdeanhansonКүн бұрын
@@jaygraham5407 You do know your posts are in response to mine…right?
@justfun9852 күн бұрын
As I have gotten older (now 70) I just replace everything (Rotor and calipers on cars) it is just easier, cheaper safer in the long run.
@moshebron21052 күн бұрын
Absolutely insane, why isn't there a way to hold bad/ dangerous mechanics accountable? I just worked on a trailer, it had 3 Haldex and 1 meritor slack adjuster, basically only 3 brakes were working. This bus could've easily gone up in flames. Neither of us has any legal way to hold the previous mechanic accountable.
@dhyde92072 күн бұрын
Well, so much for the air vs. cordless strength argument.
@BusGreaseMonkey2 күн бұрын
Milwaukee has a new version of the 1/2” that is more powerful
@theprofessorfate618432 минут бұрын
IR makes pneumatic 1in that are a lot more powerful (2000 ftlbs) than the old bluepoint he owns and they cost cost about 700 bucks. Cordless is bullshit in a shop, especially when you consider the fact it isn't going to last as long as a pneumatic tool and isn't nearly as durable.
@billtodd65092 күн бұрын
A long time ago, a n old retired Roadway line mechanic showed me a way to help loosen a bunch of lugnuts like that. while one guy is hammering on the nut with the impact, another guy hammers straight down on the socket with a heavy hammer. It really helped me with those stubborn ones. Also Keine Tools makes a specialty fixture just made for truck disc brakes(air) that you can just jack them up and roll them away. Have a nice day.
@chuckvanvleet12682 күн бұрын
A little heat goes a long ways
@BusGreaseMonkey2 күн бұрын
A little heat doesn’t usually do anything. A lot of heat we go to often but it wasn’t needed
@chuckvanvleet12682 күн бұрын
That bus looks like it came from Ohio or new York glad your getting it fixed
@deanh71902 күн бұрын
I was at first impressed with the Prevost access panels for maintenance until you pointed out the sharp impalers left behind. I would have stuck a piece of packing foam on those because certainly my head would find them.
@philipmarmo21322 күн бұрын
Couple tips from a 45 year machinist... take the extension off the Milwaukee. The extension absorbs a lot of shock without it.. that Shock will go directly to the socket and break Free More difficult nuts... also rap the top with a heavy hammer when you soak them and every now and then when they don't come Free... the shock helps loosen the thread and migrate the penetrating oil deeper... But it's mostly the shock.. You can get a high frequency to go right through that bolt ..
@BusGreaseMonkey2 күн бұрын
Extensions loose lots of torque. That is not an extension on the Milwaukee it’s the anvil.
@jeffreyyoung87272 күн бұрын
This man and his understudy are capable of anything!
@dennisreeves6322 күн бұрын
Some of the stuff you guys see in just insane. I hope other maintenance people watch your videos and learn something.
@ken9113562 күн бұрын
Thanks for the entertainment = struggling with tough jobs. As an Aussie I cannot believe the corrosion that can occur in vehicles in your environment. I have 60 year old cars with no rust. Keep up the good work
@nomdeplume371115 сағат бұрын
Ken, you have less water and you have no ice so you have no salt so you have no rust.
@51actual2 күн бұрын
Scott, put tennis balls with some tape on sharp parts.
@51actual2 күн бұрын
Meaning, make a hole in the tennis ball. We use it in film as eye protection from sharp things.
@lenscap8925Күн бұрын
@@51actual Was at a movie setup the other morning and the gaffers had unloaded their truck (space was at a premium) and a cart with color coded "C" stands with a milk crate of yellow tennis balls was in the cart stack. Looking around I saw their use, got to think for everyone on a set...
@normmcrae11402 күн бұрын
You can send that Brake Rotor down to Clarke Easterling at Windy Hill Foundry and he'll recycle it for you! 🤣
@risby19302 күн бұрын
Great channel reminds me of my dad's shop, only they were working on semi's. The busses are different, but the size of gear and problems are similar.
@208miuwu9 сағат бұрын
I`m always amazed of knowledge here on this channel. Scott is a walking breathing book of experience.
@shrconstruction2 күн бұрын
I'd fluid film the entire chassis....I'm in the rust belt and I use fluid film on all my vehicles, motorcoach, trailers, tractors, ect... i put that stuff on everything.....i gave up on removing rust up here, just keeping it at bay is cost effective.
@jaygraham5407Күн бұрын
I am firm believer in Fluid Film
@timdubois407Күн бұрын
You fellows do such great work. Look forward to each video.
@Watts3782 күн бұрын
Another great episode! I love how you always put safety first when working with your guys 👍👍
@foxlake675021 сағат бұрын
The young lad should have had safety glass removing the lug nut, after seeing that socket break…..😮
@randyc81712 күн бұрын
The labor for the repairs will be more than the coach is worth.
@justfun9852 күн бұрын
I never used rachets till I had stuff broke loose because they could break. (big farm equipment with big bolts). LOL we used a lot bigger cheater bars as there was more open space on farm equipment. (my uncle was 6-4 230) We also lost a lot of sockets as he dropped the tools where we worked once the job was done. I would like to get a metal detector and sweep the spots we worked. Bet we would find several sets of tools.
@justfun9852 күн бұрын
Great testament (reason for) impact sockets and breaker bars LOL
@garyharrington53002 күн бұрын
I've allways said ,don't paint your studs and nuts😎👍
@haroldconover52212 күн бұрын
What a rust bucket 🪣
@dth2brny121Күн бұрын
This Prevost did serve its previous life in the Salt Lake City area...and we all know what that means.
@jacvanguilder34562 күн бұрын
Now you can get an idea of what it was like , repairing busses and coaches for NYC transit
@gwharton682 күн бұрын
I was taught many years ago, that you do not use a ratchet wrench in high torque situations. Always use flex head bar. I guess things have changed in the last 60 years.
@fatmuscle1Күн бұрын
Wow, this has been the most amusing video yet, albeit at your expense. A serious amount of work!
@greglammers990517 сағат бұрын
Those removable side are nice for when you have to chain up out west too. Been there done that.The D.O.T. Would have had a field day with that rotor. It really surprises me that bus did not burn down with those calipers as bad as they were! Wow. I cannot tell you how many ratchets,breaker bars, and sockets we broke over the years taking those caliper bolts out. We had the luxury of having an in ground hoist, so we would use a 3/4 breaker bar with a pipe, use a jack stand to support the pipe and let the hoist down. Lol
@Ar.maverick2 күн бұрын
I guess all this work is cause by the lack of proper maintenance over the years. its amazing that you can really get this stuff apart and have anything left to work with,
@jamesmckenzie35322 күн бұрын
That was impressive breaking that many and the type of tools. Lots more work to go though. Someone did this bus massively wrong.
@richardjulien87452 күн бұрын
it looks that this bus had a lack of maintenance and it is stuck with rust .May be this bus was decomitionned for quit a long time or that bus run in winter with salt and abrasive and remember this bus has been built in a place called ST-CLAIRE ,QUEBEC with rough winter ,so good luck for the rest of your repairs.
@yambo592 күн бұрын
I was in a couple railroad shops years ago and I noticed the tools for the really big bolts were just thick plates steel stampings with the six point hex on one end and the handle end was made for either a hammer or very large extension bar --- no harbor freight ratchets or breaker bars or ratchets of any kind above a certain size - I also saw what had to be some of the biggest dam impact wrenches on the planet, looked like around inch and a half or inch and a quarter drive with sockets that would likely break your foot if you dropped one on it. I assume this kind of thing in the video is why.
@Superior202020 сағат бұрын
Wow I love how much access there is with the panels off. Maintenance should be dumb easy with all that room
@michaelchamberlain46182 күн бұрын
I've had to put a 243 lb starter in on the outside of an engine on the ship mostly on my head never any fun. You get it done.
@Hntrsfanclub2 күн бұрын
Scott, this is probably one of the worst buses you have had to work on. I can appreciate the issues you have in North America because of road salt but I suggest that the state of this vehicle, the rust everywhere, general neglect, driving it on the roads borders almost on criminal neglect. The condition of this bus has taken years, not weeks! Its is shameful that anyone has let this vehicle get to its current state of general disrepair. I certainly hope that you can get it to a condition that makes it relatively safe to drive on the road, and I hope something can be done about the treatment of the overall rust. The very best of luck to you.
@davefroman47002 күн бұрын
Trust me, he's seen worse.
@mattgates2191Күн бұрын
That 1950’s bus they just did was no picnic either. Old buses seem like a lot of labor. 😂
@failranch9542Күн бұрын
That Milwaukee looks like a mini anti-aircraft gun. And Kroil is not overrated.
@lloydrobinson7081Күн бұрын
having a lot of fun with that bus, keep the clips coming
@The_Smith2 күн бұрын
That Icon ratchet was an impressive break I was expecting the yoke to break if any thing did.
@twin40dave2 күн бұрын
Wow, to break that many tools, so far ... on such a young bus, good luck with the front end 😊
@jerrycanada8271Күн бұрын
Jonathan is a beast! Great assistant
@jerrycanada8271Күн бұрын
Never again will I look at a shiny coach or RV in the same way. This RV is/was a disaster.
@paulthompson16542 күн бұрын
Sounds like my sons 1st car ,, yes one owner vehicle yet every thing I MEAN every thing needs servicing .
@motorcoachtech76152 күн бұрын
Lots of seized things on that Knorr-Bremse brake caliper. Tappets, pins. Probably had water egressed at the booster seal. A real struggle. Don’t miss those days!
@erik_dk8422 күн бұрын
Private coaches should be pulled in for random roadside safety inspection.
@bradolsen862922 сағат бұрын
A young bus wow that’s a new one. I thought he was going to say it was a newer bus.
@garyolafson83032 күн бұрын
Good luck trying to get these Lug Nuts off on the side of the road. Oh, well I've had a similar problem getting Lug Nuts off on my 4 wheeler after a Car Dealer visit
@justfun9852 күн бұрын
Sometimes, I threaded the bolt of nut back on a little to get the bolt nut out of the socket. Hammering the socket or the bolt on the floor or with a hammer sometimes worked it loose.
@mfc45912 күн бұрын
Never paint threads ! There is much discussion on the next comment, but I have NEVER had a problem. I apply a very thin layer of anti seize to wheel nuts, then I apply the correct torque with a torque wrench. Works like a charm. Mostly because I am the guy who has to remove the wheel next time !
@BusGreaseMonkey2 күн бұрын
No wheel manufacturers recommend anti seize on threads. None. Lubricated threads are a totally different torque value. Clean and dry with proper torque is perfect. Over torqued wheels from idiot installers is the problem.
@stevebyrne42352 күн бұрын
Looked brutal; great channel
@JW-hv8uo2 күн бұрын
That brake system is a mess. Good job making it safe. Heavy duty stuff!
@donw39122 күн бұрын
I have never seen one rig...let alone one wheel/axle break so many tools. The kicker is that the rig is not horribly old...like Lenny. As for the ratchet failure...I thought the same thing as you did as to teeth/guts failing before the case. It makes me wonder how the tool mfr tests/breaks tools when they are in the design stage. A great video on a heckuva nightmare scenario...imagine if it had gotten a flat... You guys never cease to amaze me with the rigs you have brought to you and how many were just a hair away from something catastrophic happening. The motoring public thanks you in all that you do fixing other peoples eff ups and making things safe again🙂
@stevenrobinson2381Күн бұрын
Lordy-that is gonna be one SPENDY fix. Disc brakes are outstanding-but when they have deteriorated to that extent-get the Amex Black card out.......
@Charger19082 күн бұрын
All those bolts, nuts and bushings look original. Maybe the shocks could be newer but that’s it. I can’t believe people take care of their equipment so shoddily. At least you can exchange the tools.
@timaustin1102 күн бұрын
How your son and his bus going I havent been getting notifications KZfaq for your channel and you are not the only channel
@GinosGarageUSAКүн бұрын
Nice, dang that’s alot of work. That bus definitely did much of its service in the salt, guessing the passenger side is always worst because of the build up of slush on most roads goes toward that side. Need to try that 1/2” tite reach on those caliper bolts, I use my 3/4” drive Milwaukee impact on mine all the time and have hammered the crap out of it and it’s still going fine. I bought a backup one when you posted that discount but it’s still in the package so far.
@cmdrdarwin36822 күн бұрын
I feel certain that bus sat in salt water for an extended time. That’s a ridiculous amount of rust!
@markfortag43012 күн бұрын
I wonder if that bus was one of the ones that got flood damage back several years ago in Nashville
@lucmarchand6172 күн бұрын
This invoice is going little bit up right.insane grease fitting no grease and brake chambers boots noise on this.thanks video again expose this.😮
@pumacat16372 күн бұрын
Why not use some heat to remove lug nuts
@itsmephil225521 сағат бұрын
Here in the UK we have a term for those brake discs .... Well those are well f**ked 👌🏼
@mikepelz7004Күн бұрын
This must have been Sponge Bob Square Pants coach🐟🐡🐙🐚🦈
@christopherguy12172 күн бұрын
Fancy new calliper brakes and old fashioned neglect. Neglect wins every time.
@scrumpydrinker2 күн бұрын
With that calliper I am not in the least surprised as the required torque for the securing bolts is about 400 lbs ft. On the Volvo B7L they used cap head screws and could be a challenge the break loose… And those callipers are heavy old things as well. Given the amount of corrosion on the thing I suspect that your tool dealer will be rubbing his hands in glee.
@mchurch39052 күн бұрын
Salt=job security.
@bruceknowling8633Күн бұрын
Part of the problem with the wheel nuts is the paint in the threads.
@Fixingeverthingwithaengine5672 күн бұрын
I was told that if a vehicle you looking at is extremely nice outside. Most of the time there is something being hidden. Putting lipstick on a pig it's still a pig.
@kevinirwinirwin7666Күн бұрын
It's scary seeing the condition of these buses
@randallvos2 күн бұрын
Speaking from experience, you may want to have that bus's owner pick up a spare disc brake chamber to carry with, i spent two days trying to find a shop that had one in stock. The chambers for disc brakes are different than the chambers for drum brakes, and don't interchange.........
@dont-want-no-wrench2 күн бұрын
holy hell how do you even get lugnuts that tight.
@h5mind373Күн бұрын
New England road salt.
@timf69162 күн бұрын
I’ve never seen a caliber look that bad or a rotor, will take it back. I had metal metal once
@edwinhsingmaster91352 күн бұрын
😅you could save yourselves hours of frustration by using MALTBY Penetrating Oil. Family owned since 1919. I'm an ASE Master tech, been using it for 50 years.
@jaygraham5407Күн бұрын
These wheels are as tuff to get off as UPS trailer and dolly wheels.
@johnparker78742 күн бұрын
I believe that the tag axle rim is toast
@matthewromano8801Күн бұрын
I didnt know they came with disc brakes being how old it is...and who tightened all the bolts on that axle? Donkey Kong himself??
@garybarker9139Күн бұрын
Looks like the sand blasting box will get some use.
@michaelzang9739Күн бұрын
I think the drum brakes with the S cam are a lot simpler and easier to maintain.
@torchandhammerКүн бұрын
This all looks pretty normal up here in Michigan.
@aaronhancock86012 күн бұрын
those brakes have been hot
@richardcorcorran89652 күн бұрын
Sad, that bus has seen NO Maintenance
@elderrider92982 күн бұрын
Hammer wrenches work well for getting those bolts off
@garysoykin2783Күн бұрын
I think hobo Freight will exchange that wrench for you
@jaygraham5407Күн бұрын
Air disc brakes have not proven themselves to me yet.
@fw14212 күн бұрын
Nastiest brakes I’ve ever seen.
@jeromebishsr.13948 сағат бұрын
The last wheel you removed appears to have been run with loose luge nuts.
@KingsoupturboКүн бұрын
Well I understand why Milwaukee makes that insane gun now, heavy-duty is a different world from light cars\trucks.
@jeffogden29822 күн бұрын
Must have lived on the east coast.
@kleetus922 күн бұрын
All that metal in the rim was stuff the brake pads were throwing off the rotor!!
@BusGreaseMonkey2 күн бұрын
He was literally using his fingers to pull flakes and chunks off the rim. Yes some of the pile was from the brakes but the rim is bubbling and deteriorating
@davepink6372 күн бұрын
I allways wire brush end of threads croil them then tap s flat , more croil , it might give a better start
@gazfishКүн бұрын
Some gorilla must have torqued up those wheel nuts, lucky it didn't need changing at the side of the road
@salmonaco007Күн бұрын
If you have a quick disconnect coupler on 1 inch gun it could restrict air flow they make hi flow quick disconnect couplers try putting air line directly on gun
@joebeach7759Күн бұрын
I've never seen someone break a rachet
@sargentcolon232322 сағат бұрын
Free socket… Now if only you could find another socket wrench to replace the broken one you would be even.
@freetotravel4793Күн бұрын
No wonder people don't travel in states that use salt on roads. I bet there was a lot of shovelling rust and debris off the floor after it left.
@kevindahlberg77532 күн бұрын
It looks like a Le Bus coach, they use alot of salt on the roads in Utah
@jamieschultz6664Күн бұрын
I have a tire gun I call "Uncle" if it doesn't loosen it it will snap the stud off!
@mariovillavicencio6332Күн бұрын
That blue point gun actually sucks, should invest in a IR
@mitsnevetsКүн бұрын
gonna be a shocker when you see the cost of the replacement brake components
@BusGreaseMonkeyКүн бұрын
Cheaper than a bus fire or accident
@holdenbrougham10562 күн бұрын
Got same Milwaukee gun and 12 amp batt ,, many times I go to braker bar and some cheater pipe to give me 2 half meters and I,m 52kg, it works for me unless socket brakes or I slip and go arse up , never happened yet cause I have a idea of 3 points of connection, 2 hands to grab handles or anything for support and then if it won't go with arm strength I go to never fail leg strength 😊 kicks air and Milwaukee arse many times ,, pissing me off that bloody Milwaukee cost us shiploads to buy and many times my cheater bar blitzed it, only good if studs had anti seized on them and not over torque, 2 of worst practices use anti seize and torque wrench, no more issues, bad studs or wheel nuts go in bin
@ewelmo392113 сағат бұрын
It's a Florida coach alright... Salt everywhere.
@BusGreaseMonkey8 сағат бұрын
Salt Lake City
@ewelmo39217 сағат бұрын
@@BusGreaseMonkey Wow... ok Didn't realize it was that salty there...