*BALANCE UPDATE* Aeldari vs Imperial Knights | Warhammer 40K Battle Report

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Tabletop Tactics

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9 ай бұрын

It's a Knight-off! With Jinx and Bard battling it out to see who has the superior forces, will the new balance data slate rules come in to play?
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@DaSkwire
@DaSkwire 9 ай бұрын
James's constant pressure on the bottom end of the dice roll distribution curve finally opened a wormhole through to the other side 😅
@RobbieB2606
@RobbieB2606 9 ай бұрын
I’ve not watched the report yet but this has me rolling 😂
@Voidkey11
@Voidkey11 9 ай бұрын
At first I didn’t get it…. Halfway through… I get it
@SimonClark
@SimonClark 9 ай бұрын
At points the dice were telling the story of a stoppable force meeting a moveable object
@Dorsidwarf
@Dorsidwarf 9 ай бұрын
Always heartbreaking when at the decisive turn of the game your opponent just makes all their saves and you fail all your wound rolls. Luck of the dice always wins.
@KhanTotalGaming99
@KhanTotalGaming99 9 ай бұрын
Better lucky than good
@raedkhalil6937
@raedkhalil6937 9 ай бұрын
James trying to channel his inner Spider rolls but his James rolls are just too powerful
@Levity31
@Levity31 9 ай бұрын
That eldar army looks so dope.
@dr.batsayl
@dr.batsayl 9 ай бұрын
As with any Servo-skull Chef game, I wish there was just one more camera to catch his facial expressions as he runs camera/directs action/does complex maths/corrects mispronunciations/prompts forgotten rules/herds cats... and so on and so on and so on.
@ronwingrove683
@ronwingrove683 9 ай бұрын
This is one of those odd battles that I don't quite understand how the scoreboard got to where it was. Still, great fun all round, and everyone looks like they're enjoying the game, which is more important.
@erichschoenholtz5170
@erichschoenholtz5170 9 ай бұрын
Love this battle report. It's on my bucket list to travel to the studio to play a game with you guys.
@InvinciblKillerQueen
@InvinciblKillerQueen Ай бұрын
Love the paint on those wraith heads
@koben333
@koben333 9 ай бұрын
As someone who loves Ulthwé, but also loves wraiths (especially melee Wraithknight), this is really something I would love to play too!
@seanfitzy2256
@seanfitzy2256 9 ай бұрын
Great stuff! Love to see a Death Guard game with new changes .
@dairewoods2544
@dairewoods2544 9 ай бұрын
Would love to see a death guard vs tsons
@nicholaschapogas5296
@nicholaschapogas5296 9 ай бұрын
The background "do-dos" when the knight approached the wraith knight made me lol
@georgebuck3812
@georgebuck3812 9 ай бұрын
Great report guys really enjoyed this one great job guys
@meeyatttA
@meeyatttA 9 ай бұрын
Would be interesting to see a battle of Eldar vs Votann, just to see how much things have changed I would imagine elves are still over their head (quite literally) but these 4 tokens must be nice
@theStamax
@theStamax 9 ай бұрын
Aeldari are still the dominant faction and while votann did get buffed, they are at best mid tier now so you do the math ^^
@goldeneye3119
@goldeneye3119 7 ай бұрын
took a break watching battle reports.... love! the dispay case in the base. really sharp!
@Zelingan
@Zelingan 8 ай бұрын
It's incredible how the Aeldari are tanking more than the Custodes 😅
@wolfguar9864
@wolfguar9864 9 ай бұрын
Such a fun game , luv to see so much laughter in a game of 40k GJ guys and servo skull :)
@AKDragonFish3D
@AKDragonFish3D 5 ай бұрын
Very animated gameplay by the players, most entertaining, and their sportsmanship is on point.
@knightpaladin9841
@knightpaladin9841 9 ай бұрын
The Knights have summoned me once again. Love this channel. Hopefully there's a plan to pick up a plastic Lancer or two in the future
@CaptJPurdie
@CaptJPurdie 9 ай бұрын
Liking the new titanic close combat music... very suspenseful 😊🖖
@scottcrompton6931
@scottcrompton6931 9 ай бұрын
Good fun, thanks!
@Bodinngy
@Bodinngy 9 ай бұрын
You’d think the way GW nerfed knights that they had the 70% Winrate 😂, love the energy y’all bring to the Bat reps. Gw need to change eldar detachment rule to either reroll one hit or wound roll not both and overhaul some datasheets.
@Brnolan22
@Brnolan22 9 ай бұрын
More points nerfs and change the army rule like you said might actually bring them out of S tier and into A 😂
@Bodinngy
@Bodinngy 9 ай бұрын
@@Brnolan22 the horror! Not A tier 😂 Seriously eldar type armies are alway strong every edition due to their army archetypes(fast moving,good guns and shenanigans etc) you had eldar strong in 8th with their flyers and minuses to hit. Then drukhari/harlequins/eldar variants in 9th. Down with these knife ears!
@Brnolan22
@Brnolan22 9 ай бұрын
@@Bodinngy I’d be happy if they dropped to A tier or even high B, I don’t want them in f tier, but I am just tired of tournaments being -1st place Aeldari -2nd place Aeldari -3rd place Aeldari -Leaving your moms house Aeldari
@Chris-jl6vp
@Chris-jl6vp 3 ай бұрын
Those eldar units are absolutely beautiful.
@enroque34
@enroque34 9 ай бұрын
Amazing game, very fun yo see. Those eldar look gorgeous
@Scotchworth
@Scotchworth 9 ай бұрын
This was one of the most manic battle reports I've seen y'all do in a while, that's including the On-demand videos. Absolut hilarity! Keep up the amazing work ya bosses!
@MrWizzyfizzy
@MrWizzyfizzy 9 ай бұрын
This games banter was bloody on point 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼💓
@GamingPaladin
@GamingPaladin 9 ай бұрын
24:45 "Come and see the violence inherent in the system!"
@gustafschonemyr833
@gustafschonemyr833 9 ай бұрын
I'm always in for some knights!
@cordial001
@cordial001 9 ай бұрын
I love seeing you guys play. You always look like you're having so much fun
@Kevin-pi5si
@Kevin-pi5si 9 ай бұрын
The helverin does get anti fly on the stubber too. It's a core ability, not a weapon ability.
@Pougli
@Pougli 9 ай бұрын
Nah, it's a core ability to the autocannon specificaly
@Haven_games
@Haven_games 9 ай бұрын
How was the surfboarding farseer(?) done? Does anyone know?
@stunistus
@stunistus 9 ай бұрын
looks like left over dark eldar raider and reaver bits.
@RareRiddemz
@RareRiddemz 9 ай бұрын
8:10 "James rolled sixes!" 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 LMAO
@gre3705
@gre3705 9 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who winced when the knights head-butted each other? Haha!
@78Showboat
@78Showboat 9 ай бұрын
Was there a glitch in the matrix for the roll off?
@nobodyreally834
@nobodyreally834 9 ай бұрын
Glad I'm not the only person who was confused by this.
@swagw5741
@swagw5741 8 ай бұрын
The Wraithknight can have either a titanic ghostglaive or a heavy wraithcannon not both or am i wrong? Great battle non the less!
@ryanbarry5320
@ryanbarry5320 9 ай бұрын
I feel like I’m watching the 40K version of medieval times
@MegaApostel
@MegaApostel 9 ай бұрын
love how you manage everytime to bring fun into these games even when currently strong factions like Eldar are involved
@shaunsheldon5580
@shaunsheldon5580 9 ай бұрын
That was a great game so much fun 😂
@srdies5289
@srdies5289 9 ай бұрын
9:58 this killed me xDD
@brothersgrimdark
@brothersgrimdark 9 ай бұрын
Can you use command reroll twice in on turn? Sorry haven't played 10th yet. Jinx used it on the wave and then again on the big knight?
@hammer1349
@hammer1349 9 ай бұрын
Can be more than once per turn but nor per phase
@brothersgrimdark
@brothersgrimdark 9 ай бұрын
@hammer1349 ahh yeah makes sense
@KagaiYami
@KagaiYami 5 ай бұрын
no quarters for the eldari! i dont got that kind of change.
@iandoddsblah
@iandoddsblah 9 ай бұрын
Am I being daft or shouldn't have rhe Knight gone first in the Aeldari fight phase where they both died?
@iandoddsblah
@iandoddsblah 9 ай бұрын
I was being daft.. I missed that it had fallen back to charge again!
@xagric1840
@xagric1840 9 ай бұрын
Shouldn't the Warglaive of gotten the FNP from the Knight detachment?
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics 9 ай бұрын
He did, Bard was rolling for them
@xagric1840
@xagric1840 9 ай бұрын
@@tabletoptactics Ah, okay. Very nice. :P
@System-Update
@System-Update 9 ай бұрын
The Eldar nerf worked then...
@imperialdoctor
@imperialdoctor 9 ай бұрын
Titanic Tabletop Tactics tearing it up terrifically? Count me in! :D
@shaunsheldon5580
@shaunsheldon5580 9 ай бұрын
Should have brushed up on elv and safety 😂
@alexgusev3405
@alexgusev3405 9 ай бұрын
Why your IK lose the feel no pain 6+ ability?
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics 9 ай бұрын
They didn't? Bard was rolling for them all game
@lite165
@lite165 9 ай бұрын
great/ fun game :)
@william3958
@william3958 9 ай бұрын
What lets the wraithknight fall back and charge?
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics 9 ай бұрын
That's the fire and fade stratagem :)
@andrewhodgkinson6477
@andrewhodgkinson6477 9 ай бұрын
Did the warlock conclave get a 3 up invulnerable due to cover? Is that right?
@VAB0L0
@VAB0L0 9 ай бұрын
They don't, but they get a normal 3+ save, so cover ignores the AP-1. I think this was just a case of saying one thing while meaning the other
@anonymoose1352
@anonymoose1352 5 ай бұрын
Sees Knights :) ...Sees Eldar :(
@justmakesstuff
@justmakesstuff 9 ай бұрын
Best game ever. I've not quite finished yet. But Katie's spiraling breakdown has me in stitches
@parko246
@parko246 7 ай бұрын
More imperial knights! Go James
@kinginyellow1490
@kinginyellow1490 9 ай бұрын
why are Wraith Gaurd hitting on 3s? there data sheet says they hit on 4's, was there a power that gives them +1 to hit? Knowing Aeldari there is one.
@georgesd2167
@georgesd2167 9 ай бұрын
Only thing I can think of would be a spiritseer leading the wraithguard (gives them lethal hits and +1 to hit) Only just started watching the BR so no idea if this is the case
@Janusztenzezdun
@Janusztenzezdun 9 ай бұрын
Spiritseer gives them +1 to hit.
@justinerickson282
@justinerickson282 9 ай бұрын
Spiritseer gives +1 to hit. Yeah so basically unless you have precision shots it’s 3s
@thomasportait8652
@thomasportait8652 9 ай бұрын
No World eaters vs Custodes ? 😢
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics 9 ай бұрын
Keep your eyes peeled for OnDemand next week
@jonathanhaynes9914
@jonathanhaynes9914 9 ай бұрын
Good luck, have fun.
@8Scientist
@8Scientist 9 ай бұрын
Ummm. Did you forget 17 feel no pain saves in turn 1?
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics 9 ай бұрын
We did quite a few off camera to not slow the game down! - Bard
@FireWarrior2013
@FireWarrior2013 9 ай бұрын
This is nothing against Jinx directly, more towards GW's game design team. But fuck me those Strands of Fate dice really made this game difficult to watch. Especially with Knights' Turn 1. Such a BS mechanic. I've never felt such sympathetic frustration than I had watching the first 20 minutes.
@luuk341
@luuk341 9 ай бұрын
Playing the currently, still, strongest army into a newly kneecapped army of knights. This game is going to be utter utter decimation.
@catosicarius3262
@catosicarius3262 9 ай бұрын
They havent emptied the backstock of Eldar mini's in the warehouse.
@luuk341
@luuk341 9 ай бұрын
@@catosicarius3262 Seems like it
@theslarz
@theslarz 8 ай бұрын
first game of tenth was eldar at 1500 points i got smoked
@andaroth96fw71
@andaroth96fw71 9 ай бұрын
At 35:45 Jinx rolls the save with cover as a 2+ cover doesn't elminate the -1 ap in this case cause cover can't better your save from 3+ to 2+ That being said, the extra wound would not have mattered at all. Great game. Y'all make the most fun battle reports to watch. Super thematic.
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics 9 ай бұрын
2+/3+ Svs not getting cover only applies vs AP0 weapons. Anything with an AP of -1 or more you get to use cover against 🙂 Also Wraithguard have a 2+ Sv, which took us all by surprise 😅
@ericlegrue6775
@ericlegrue6775 9 ай бұрын
Reroll the damage
@1971mav
@1971mav 9 ай бұрын
It would be nice if GW would make some more wardogs.
@MegaOblivionmaster1
@MegaOblivionmaster1 9 ай бұрын
I have a theory. The reason why chef has been doing so well in battles in 10th and he has been cursing people's rolls like today with Jynx is because... Sally did come back with James to the studio and Chef found her and made the most evil of bargins to become a true daemon prince of Tzeentch
@bakuchidancer
@bakuchidancer 9 ай бұрын
6:19. Pretty sure Vehicle didn't have movement to fly up, over and down of terrain
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics 9 ай бұрын
Good thing we measured it in the Studuo then to see that it could 🙂 just under 4" up, 4" to clear it across, and just under 4" down 🙂
@bakuchidancer
@bakuchidancer 9 ай бұрын
Wave serpent isn't 4" wide. It also rotated adding distance rear point has to travel and at that point wasn't even next to terrain piece so would have to move bit more. Plus width of terrain piece itself
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics 9 ай бұрын
The rotation was for fun/narrative (which was mentioned in game), as for the terrain, it was measured, it could clear it, and both players were happy for it to happen. There was also an agreement to have the two melee Knights not be shot so they could engage in a duel to the death, which should tell you all you need to know- that feel of fun is the aim of the game today 🙂
@bradr9879
@bradr9879 9 ай бұрын
Man fletcher your boss bro . This channel by far has the most beautifully painted minis
@raphaelperalez2062
@raphaelperalez2062 8 ай бұрын
stop calling me large james it rude!
@kinginyellow1490
@kinginyellow1490 9 ай бұрын
The Eldar won? I am surprised.....said no one this edition. I said earlier today i was not going to watch anymore Aeldari games..i wish i listened to myself. (this is not a knock on TT, they made this batrep super fun! they always do, i love all of them, i am just tired of seeing the OP Aeldari stream roll the rest of the roster.)
@linzeli1247
@linzeli1247 9 ай бұрын
It's after the nerf so it's more to show how much the nerf impact the play. I think the problem is the game is picked against knights which also got nerfed hard. Maybe against some army that received buff would make some difference?
@XIIIJerry
@XIIIJerry 9 ай бұрын
I just skip to the end to see how close the score is in eldar batreps. I don’t watch many.
@thepaladinstower
@thepaladinstower 9 ай бұрын
These are NOT titans, Chef)) Otherwise, love your channel guys 🎉
@nunopascoa4183
@nunopascoa4183 9 ай бұрын
F you man!!!! What a fantastic ELDAR ARMY!!!!! TOP TOP TOP!!! I ENVY YOU ;) Great battle, just love eldar :D :D :D
@Poggle_der_Geringere
@Poggle_der_Geringere 9 ай бұрын
The two shouldn't have wounded the Wraithknight in the initial clash between the knights but apart from that nothing to complain about, very very entertaining game!
@tabletoptactics
@tabletoptactics 9 ай бұрын
The Gallant had the Trophy Claim Stratagem active, which is +1 to Wound 🙂
@Poggle_der_Geringere
@Poggle_der_Geringere 9 ай бұрын
@@tabletoptactics Oh! My bad then, thanks for clarifiying.
@TheCrimsonArchivist
@TheCrimsonArchivist 9 ай бұрын
@@tabletoptacticsspeaking of this fight did i miss the gallant fighting with the chainsword?
@valaquenta220
@valaquenta220 9 ай бұрын
Yup, eldars are still too strong.
@hammer1349
@hammer1349 9 ай бұрын
A lot of synergy for very little cost. Like you can make things stupidly powerful with 2 units which are little cost. That and fate dice are bonkers, just being able to manipulate fixed dice rolls so easily just feels wrong
@rcmwalker1987
@rcmwalker1987 9 ай бұрын
Will never understand why they thought taking one of the strongest abilities from 9th, (expert crafter's) and combining it with the strongest abilities from AoS (fate dice), was a good idea.
@Bodinngy
@Bodinngy 9 ай бұрын
Honestly they should have also changed their detachment rule to only reroll a hit or wound not both among many other things. Praying for the day the knive ears won’t be busted
@andrewhodgkinson6477
@andrewhodgkinson6477 9 ай бұрын
​@@Bodinngyhow are they once the fate dice 6s are gone?
@MrSnakeCake
@MrSnakeCake 9 ай бұрын
@@andrewhodgkinson6477 then they ask their friendly neighborhood Farseer to change a fate dice to a 6.
@longlongman1640
@longlongman1640 9 ай бұрын
Let's goooooooo
@alsbartrr
@alsbartrr 9 ай бұрын
Lucky Jinx 😂😂
@InternetEthn
@InternetEthn 9 ай бұрын
"theyre actually dating" lolol
@justinerickson282
@justinerickson282 9 ай бұрын
Eldar are still close to a 70% win rate. Here’s hoping for January.
@Desm0708
@Desm0708 9 ай бұрын
“still close to a 70% win rate” My brother in Christ the balance dataslate is two fucking days old
@justinerickson282
@justinerickson282 9 ай бұрын
@@Desm0708 just watch.. they didnt fix any of the core issues that Eldar were abusing.. just watch
@andrewhodgkinson6477
@andrewhodgkinson6477 9 ай бұрын
​@@justinerickson282what about dev wounds?
@XIIIJerry
@XIIIJerry 9 ай бұрын
@@andrewhodgkinson6477fate dice are just not fun to go up against.
@Aldaris1234567
@Aldaris1234567 9 ай бұрын
​@@justinerickson282Towering and Dev wounds were fixed. Low points on strong units was fixed. Not sure how you can say the things they were abusing haven't been fixed.
@byrongotcha
@byrongotcha 8 ай бұрын
I like her
@zurran00
@zurran00 5 ай бұрын
more proof wraithguard are extremely overcosted after the nerf. the nerf to the primary rule was unnecessary and stupid. especially with the changes to devastating wounds.
@malfeas99
@malfeas99 9 ай бұрын
So close to first. Curses.
@TrebleAmp
@TrebleAmp 9 ай бұрын
Strands of fate is not fun and ridiculously broken! The core mechanic of the game is rolling dice. Negating dice rolling for garanteed result breaks the game. Also it’s so crap that your opponent rolls all the hits, all the wounds and your opponent just picks up a dice. So demoralising! 😔
@danieyo1
@danieyo1 9 ай бұрын
If that was the case SoB would be one of the best armies in the game as well, but they're not. Strands of fate is fine now, it's the rule interactions and datasheets which make Eldar as strong as they are
@LoPro
@LoPro 9 ай бұрын
@@danieyo1Even Miracle Dice (which are generated throughout the game instead of all up front) aren't enough to save Sisters from their own datasheets. Eldar don't have that problem.
@danieyo1
@danieyo1 9 ай бұрын
@@LoPro True!
@imperialdoctor
@imperialdoctor 9 ай бұрын
I've been saying that about mortal wounds since they turned up: any mechanic that bypasses the core gameplay loop is anti-game and turns it from an interactive process to being that of a bystander.
@andrewhodgkinson6477
@andrewhodgkinson6477 9 ай бұрын
You do roll faye dice through, dont you?
@Desm0708
@Desm0708 9 ай бұрын
Most people might not see this but don’t look in this comment section. Almost everyone is being negative and whining.
@FireWarrior2013
@FireWarrior2013 9 ай бұрын
Understandably for most. A lot were hoping that the Balance Dataslate was going to reign in a faction that's currently dominating so badly, the recent most tournament (NOVA Open) had 3 Aeldari players in the winning ranks. It's impossible for there not to be substantial salt with a game faction doing THAT reliably well, and to see some changes impact other factions more negatively than they do the problem faction has people's heckles raised for it (stuff like the Dev Wound and Towering Changes didn't really address the problems of fighting Aeldari for example). The team gave thought out reasons for their changes, but many feel they weren't enough to really kick Aeldari off their pedastal. If anything it will have changed 2nd position and under.
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