Did you know Pot of Greed has a boss monster? Deck List for it here: bit.ly/3ETCTlq

The only way to balance it is to make a card called “Pot of Greed 2.0” and it says “Draw three cards”.

Comparing Pot of Greed to Black Lotus and not Ancestral Recall (a one mana spell that draws you three cards) caught me off guard, because I've always pictured it as the parallel to Pot of Greed in MTG's earlier days. But putting it in the context that you are trying to reinforce the idea of the resource system (or lack thereof) being the real issue at hand makes the comparison you did draw much stronger and clearer. While the in-game effect of Ancestral Recall matches Pot of Greed better, the sort of meta effect is more emblematic of the games they each belong to. While cards are absolutely a resource in MTG, they are more abstractly a resource than mana is, whereas in Yugioh cards are the primary resource. An interesting comparison that made me think! Kudos to you for that.

Yugioh has a mulligan it is when you go first look at your hand, offer a handshake and ask "game 2?"

It's funny how often pot of greed gets used in the anime considering it was only used one single time in the original manga.

I love that thumbnail

Curious about extending this conversation to the Jar Trap cards like Jar of Greed, Good Goblin Housekeeping etc. And Reckless Greed as well. Discussing how forcing to set the cards first drastically weakens these effects is another aspect.

Me and a friend play a lot of old formats, and every time we play modern we laugh so hard at how something like "having 5 monsters in the graveyard" was a pretty high requirement in Goat, but now I can mill 11 in 1 tear combo, which then triggers another mill 15 and literally limitless pluses off of it.

I think yugioh (now) does have a resource system, hard once per turns (which tear name has been used, which spright/floo was summoned). Cards advantage is always useful in card games even with resources like mana. Something I think often overlooked for pot of greed vs upstart is that while upstart turns your deck to a 37 card deck, upstart is card neutral while pot isn't. Also another thing about pot of greed is that (at 3) your opponent could pot into pot into pot. Imagine sitting down with your opponent and your opponent draws 8 cards for their opening hand. Nice vid!

That thumbnail is an artistic masterpiece.

i always hated pot of desires bc of the banish 10 since i like more control-based strategies but when you said "you can treat those cards as being on the bottom 10 of your deck so you're probably never going to see them anyway" thats a pretty interesting view that i might start considering it more now 😂

People forgot about the monstrous card that was Graceful Charity. It was the first fix of Pot of Greed but whooboy it turns out even more broken.

to add to the pot of avarice discussion part of the reason it's not so great anymore is that the shuffle into the deck has become a downside again a lot of decks use the cards in there graveyard

Pot of greed: Spell Card: Effect: Draw 2 cards. You can only activate Pot of greed once per duel, and cannot draw cards by your card effects for the rest of this turn.

Yu-Gi-Oh's resource system has always been time. In old-school it's the draw for turn and the normal summon, and that slowly changes into the hard once-per-turn limits on cards in modern Yu-Gi-Oh, and the normal summon is still there depending on the deck.

The thumbnail is extremly cursed.

In today's meta, a mid-tier deck such as the new crystal beast deck goes +1 with Crystal bond, which is essentially Pot of Greed. But then that same card gave you acess to Pegasus and Crystal Beast Rainbow Dragon, Pegasus going neutral for another card on your field and CBRD going +1 with its effect to special 1 Crystal beast and add one Rainbow Dragon to hand. The player already went +2 off of 1 Crystal Bond while also playing 2 more cards on top of it and now they can Xyz or Link summon into something else to potentially go further. But naturally, every player starts with 5 cards in hand, so the player can easily go +2 again from another one of those cards in the same process. Essentially every card gained in a duel these days is a card searched and added to hand. One could argue that "adding to hand" can be interupted, unlike drawing, but which one would the player rather have: garrantee of one card at random or the exact card needed for a combo to win the game with the slim chance of it being stopped from reaching the hand? The ability to search everything has pretty much killed Yugioh for me. Decks have become so consistent that I'm just repeating the same duel through the same search engine again and again, with the only possibility for randomness being my opening hand. I understand that having a starting hand of 6 instead of 5 would greatly increase the consistency of any deck, which we could argue is what Pot of Greed would do, but I find it absurd in today's search meta for +2 and up or neutral for 5 cards that we still call Pot of Greed's +1 unbalanced. Feel free to change my mind, I am still hoping to understand what I'm missing, if that's the case.

Pot of dichotomy was always an interesting one for me. It only saw a very small amount of competitive play but for decks that can run it its very cool

I follow all your chanels Cardmarket and you guys are doing an AMAZING job bringing good content to KZfaq. I'm thankful that these videos exist :) Keep it up! Cheers!

the thing is in Yugi you acctually can search cards so the banished 10 cards are like bottom 10 isn´t 100% true. you can interact with your bottom 10 cards. + you shuffle a lot in yugi so these 10 cards consistantly changes

D. D. Crow was during Chaos Monarch Meta not Chaos Meta. Might not seem like a big difference but it was after the big Chaos Monsters were banned and sorcerer was restricted to 1.

Pot of Prosperity into Imperial Order was something.

Pot of duality is a funny case. When it was released deck building theory wasn't established yet so it would show up in decks it had no business being in just to add more consistency. We're talking decks that want to special summon a lot.

Adam legit knows and understands a lot about the game and game design and that's one of the reasons this channel is so good. Master Duel has brought in a lot of newer or weaker players to the point where I've seen people actually try to argue towards Pot of Greed being unbanned or not being that good anymore so I hope this video helps some. There are also a lot of archetype-specific draw spells that resemble Pot of Greed / Graceful Charity like Destiny Draw and SS Mobilize Engage but being archetype locked is also a very real deckbuilding restriction, like the retrained Pots. Overall I'd say it's one of the aspects of the game they've done a great job with and they're all SR in Master Duel which makes them relatively easy to acquire, nice for such staple cards that you'd like to have a variety of. Also Pot of Avarice is my favourite card ever in the game, recycling Lonefires and Gadgets and all that fancy stuff feels amazing. I'm getting my fix of it with Chaos Creator lately.

The problem with Pot of Greed is that simple. You said 37 card deck, but if you started with 3 copies of Pot of Greed in hand, your 34 card deck (Turn 1 draw was a thing back in the day) into a deck that only has 28 cards. While the resource compression is officially at 37, in practice, it really is a lot more like 28 or so on average depending on the situation on hand, as any seasoned player would likely run the resource equivalent of Graceful Charity. Let's have the hypothetical maximum of 3 copies of Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity in turn 1. Play 3 Pot of Greed and you have 12 cards out from deck (6 from first hand and 6 from Pot). Current hand size: 9 Play 3 Graceful Charity and you lose another 9 cards from deck, but the GY gains a net of 12 cards (3 Pot, 3 Grace, 6 card discard). Hand Size at the resolution: 9 You literally just went through about half of the deck and have almost 25% of the deck in hand. This is literally 2 cards of the game run at the limit back in the day. This doesn't include cards that gain bonuses to draw from the deck at all and you still have time to pull out your best combos. Calling it broken is a huge understatement. It's game defining.

The lack of a hard "resource system" in Yugioh is a big part of why I love it. In other games my resources are limited artificially by turn count or have to be played IN MY DECK as future bricks past the ones I need to draw to play at all. There is something so elegant and fun about all your cards being playable if you build your deck right. Part of why I hate the concept of a garnet is that there should never be a time when drawing a card is bad unless you made a mistake. In other games this is just the norm. I quit MTG and all games that use lands precisely because its no fun drawing lands or worse yet not drawing lands. Its no fun being required to make as much as half your deck out of resource cards you hope you draw at the right times. It baffles me that there isn't another card game like Yugioh. 100 MTG and hearthstone clones come out and yet not a single game I have found is a "yugioh clone" and it sucks. If I ever make a card game it will function like Yugioh because at its core Yugioh is a perfect game.

@Cardmarket - Yu-Gi-Oh!: In yugioh looking at the 3 top card of your deck, meaning your opponent can't see it, and that is not what pot of duality does, Excavate is just the problem solving text, for reveal the top 3 card of your deck, meaning not only you gets to look, your opponent also looks at them. Also you cannot special summoned the turn you activated this card. The old rules version the current rules, the old rules was before April 1st, 2020, with the restriction of you cannot special summoned the turn you activated this card, meaning if it considered that you attempted to special summoned even if the special summoned never happen, and also even if the special summoned was negated, you can't activated pot of duality, only when the activation of the card that special summoned was negated, that is the only time it is considered you never attempt to special summoned, rules past april 1st 2020, now they rule it that the special summoned must happen, in order to prevent pot of duality and card with the same restriction to not be able to activated.

Limited by one normal summon...... Screeches in floo

I started playing yugioh with the eternal duelist soul. On the GBA. in 2001 Still remember those days

Pot of Greed is one of the poster child of the "You see, that's where the trouble began. That, smile, that damn smile." meme It fits perfectly after all.

Love this format. Great background noice

an interesting "fix" to pot of greed that I'm not sure how well it would work is make it so you draw the cards in the end phase

Pot of Extravagance always is a bit of a gamble and I love it. You know if you lose important pieces of your extradeck, you either have to adjust your strategy or you just lose. Also it has to be the first thing you do, so you can't just go and draw two cards after having brought out everything you already need.

When my frends and I were 14, we played "schoolground yugioh" (Which means you immediately know there's shenanigans going on) we had a rule where if you empty your hand in a turn, you can draw 2, but you can't set, summon or activate those 2 cards. Imagine Cardcar D, but you can continue your turn and didn't have to waste your normal summon

thanks for the unintentional ASMR i was able to chill out after work which is intense outdoor physical activity i was too sore to do anything but try to get comfortable and thanks to you i got a few hours of sleep. i draw two cards from my deck.

most TCGs: a long, epic battle with multiple strategic decisions that can turn the tides of battle Yu-Gi-Oh: I can win the game in one or two turns 99% of the time

I'll do anything for them to limit Pot of Greed to one just for one meta just to see how badly the meta would warp

One of THE BEST channel's for Yugioh. It is so nice that you are not only profit oriented, but want to participate in content creating. If you could only include North Macedonia to your list of countries, that would be inexplainable for us!

Played Yugioh for a long time now and there are some things I wish Konami would impliment in a format 1. Going first in Yugioh is really good. Most decks can play through handtraps and you can set up a strong board before your opponent has a chance to do anything. You do draw a second card going second, and there are strong cards dedicated to breaking boards, but most likely, you're going to be in a big disadvantage unless you pull one of them. I say let going second players be able to mulligan their hand, and redraw the cards they shuffled back. They'll have a better chance going second, and pressures the going first player to vary their boards for certain decks instead of monster spamming and putting up a bunch of negates. 2. There are a lot of old decks that will NEVER be competative no matter what kind of support you release for them. Blue Eyes, dispite being the most iconic monster, is not a good archtype for competative play. This also goes for decks like Dark Magician, Amazons, ect. Iconic decks and mosnters that has got them into Yugioh to begin with There's a system implimented in Duel Links called skills. A skill are abilities you equip at the beginning of the duel to give yourself a boost if certain conditions are met, or even let you play certain cards that aren't normally available. For example. If you're a blue eyes player and love playing the archtype. Blue Eyes in the show is infamous for being this big bad menance that players have to go WAY out of their way to out? What if there's a skill you can equip to let normal monsters you control be uneffected by your opponent's monster effects, as long as you have at least 9 cards that mention "Blue Eyes" In your deck and cannot play continuous spells and traps if they don't mention "Blue Eyes" in their effects? Your opponent, just like in the show, will have to go out of their way to out your Blue Eyes cards without them becoming toxic.

U also could have mentioned that most of the retrains were once per turn

Little nitpick here: not everything before the semicolon is considered a cost, it's simply a list of things that happen on activation which includes the cost, targeting and designating (picking coin/die results/naming cards). This does actually come up rarely on mandatory effects that have targeting before the semicolon, an effect that involves said target and a second part of the same effect that applies regatdless of the first or the target. A mandatory effect that just has targeting before the cost will still trigger with no valid targets it's just that the part of the effect which requires a target will resolve without effect. If targeting was a cost this would not be the case as the cost and only the cost must fully be paid for the effect to activate so the effect wouldn't activate at all with no targets. Optional effect need to be able to resolve fully at the time of activation so the same rules don't apply. For example: If you special summon TG wonder magician to a field with no spells or traps her effect to target then pop a spell/trap will still trigger. And nothing will happen. I know this is borderline semantic and it hardly ever comes up but I just thought you'd like to know. Great video otherwise!

Funny enough I do wonder if Pot of Greed might get powercrept at some point here. I know it is the poster boy for cards that can never get powercrept but we are seeing it a little bit in the OCG treatment of Upstart Goblin. Pot of Greed is often said to have no downside however one of the two reasons that OCG can have Upstart at 3 without real issues and many decks don't even run it is that with the advent of hand traps there actually is a noticeable cost to having it in your deck. It can stop you from having the required counter cards in hand to keep your opponent from getting their board setup. The other reason is that many decks are setup to inflict 8000 damage so Upstart can mess with that but from everything I've seen it seems that is the lesser reason. Pot of Greed is of course still amazeballs but I do think it's overall power has come down a lot over the past 10 years. If it used to be a 25/10 card it is now a 20/10 card. Still too strong but a noticeable decrease in power.

im old but played from the start I don’t remember pot of greed not being limited to one. Maybe no one at my locals owned more then one but it was from my memory always limited.

Love your content, mate! You should start streaming Master Duels.

my idea was keep it legendary by allowing you to draw 2 but you lose at the end of your turn, can't be used for unbreakable boards first turn becomes a going 2nd card and a last resort card.... nope still pretty broken I think

I can see pot of greed becoming trash in the future due to Konami releasing restrictive in archetype draw 2 effects that also setup the deck's win condition, and synergize more with said archetype. We already have in archetype hand traps that are better than running regular hand traps, ie, Havnis for Tearlaments. I think draw cards are next in line to get that same treatment, unless Konami does a 180 and decides to fix their game instead.

Pot of greed is a nice generic +1, but a lot of archetypes have their +1 and even when it goes through, victory is not guaranteed. Painful choice is way more powerful, if it resolves, you can easily do a FTK.

i don't play yu-gi-oh but sometimes i get yu-gi-oh videos in my feed. the fact that several of them were about pot of greed tells me everything i need to know about the game: let's discuss for hours on how broken is a draw two effect in a game where spells are free.

Graceful Charity arguably aged even better than Pot of Greed. "Draw 3, then discard 2". It gives no numerical card-advantage in hand, but it is the ultimate consistency card while also moving resources from the hard-to-access _Deck_ to the nowadays-very-easy-to-access _Graveyard_ It will never be unbanned.

I want them to make a Graceful Charity retrain for my Chaos Decks!

After watching this entire video, I STILL don’t know what Pot of Greed does.

While not a Pot card I think Sekkas Light should have gotten a mention here. The effect is better than Pot of Greed's, but it locks you out of spells and traps for the rest of the Duel. It forces you into playing a monster mash deck, which puts a real cap on your deck design, and limits the kind of deck you can play.

I always thought that pot of greed could be erratad to only activating when your life points were down to the last few 100, as it was generally used as a last ditch effort in anime and manga.

I agree with Paul from Team APS, the monsters were the resource system. It worked decently back then.

It's always been insanely strong. Draw 2 cards, so it's +1, but actually it means you can run a 39/40 deck, or a 37/40 deck with three copies + assuming you proc it every time, that's even better since out of 37 total possible other cards it's very likely you'll draw different cards rather than a copy, therefore you can get

I love how he says card The “Kewrd themselves”

thumbnail goes hard I won’t lie

Pot of greed You can only activate this card if your opponent has 2 or more cards in their hand/field than you. Draw 2 cards.

12 minutes in and I figured it out! Once per turn. And it lists multiple restrictions (restrictions from the other pot cards) you choose one restriction and draw 2 cards.

you activated video of greed, it makes the viewer want to watch to more videos

Maybe they could make the effect of Pot of Greed: Draw 2 Cards... And these 2 cards remain revealed in your hand and you cant use them or use them as a cost till your next turn

dat beautiful thumbnail

I want a video talking about maxx c, weather it is good to be unban or not in tcg. Because in ocg, we enjoy it alot

Beautiful video!!!

There was a recent no banlist tournament where all cards were at 3 and 2nd place used 0 pot of greeds. Was kind of funny.

kinda cool to see you guys cover yugioh. can you do some budget builds for yugioh that are easy to play in the new meta?

There are a handful of old Yu-Gi-Oh monsters that have aged well - well enough to the point that they had to be errataed quite dramatically, and are still relevant. Sangan and Witch of the Black Forest are similar 'design mistakes' to Pot of Greed in terms of how they interact with the rules of the game, even if they aren't as immediately crazy as a spell that just says "draw 2".

After having pendulum summons, and having TONS of archetypes that fill the whole field, I really feel Pot of Greed is the last of YGOs problems 🧐

Its funny you mention "fixing" cards, since as a magic player, I'm more than familiar with our respective games attempts to "fix" stupid cards. And just like in Yugioh, they backfired spectacularly. LED / Lion's Eye Diamond was an attempt to "fix" Black Lotus since you had to have to discard your entire hand as part of the cost, however due to both timing rules back in Mirage when it was printed and the more modern era of magic rules, alot of decks can utilize the discard your hand clause and the card is silly broken and banned in a lot of places. Brainstorm was an attempt to fix Ancestral Recall, its still 1 for draw 3 but you have to put 2 back, yet again, this "cost" ends up as a net benefit for some strategies, or others were simply the fast injection of resources is enough to execute a plan. The parallels are pretty clear for sure.

Swordsoul: *laughs in Pot of Desires*

I think the combo of pot of propensity into a pot of duality is funny. Because propensity puts them on the bottom of the deck, you basically dig for 9. I'm not sure if any meta deck has run both but maybe one will down the line.

question, what if the effect became "both players draw 2 cards"?

"What does Pot of Greed do?". "It get's you banned from Tournaments!"

Exodia FTK is already a consistent strategy (along side other FTKs, looking at you telephon), it is just that they are brittle to any sort of interaction.

"Some say you banish 10, some say you gain 2" -some wise guy on the internet maybe

Opinion on this errata for POT OF GREED (which will also mostly will not conflict with the anime effect): Draw 2 cards. you can activate only 1 other spell or Trap card during the turn you activate this card.

Would you play a pot card that says activate only in your 2nd stadby phase, draw 2 cards.

New Pot of Greed “playable on your turn only, draw two cards, ends turn immediately, do not activate effects of other cards (magic, trap, monster, graveyard, out of play)

You didn't mention the most fun and fair version of Pot of Greed, "Cup of Ace"

There was a Yu-gi-oh Gameboy game (forgot the name) and Grandpa ran that exact deck. Every drawing game know to men at the time and 3 Exodia sets. He was so hard to beat it felt like complete luck to win. There was a card combo with Snatch and Steal. A continuous trap card that when your opponent gained life points, they actually lost them. So your opponent losing a possibly powerful monster and getting a 1000 life point loss to boot was not fun.

Aye what happened to my jar of greed?! :o

I still think that there needs to be a limit on SS

I actual wonder how the game would look today, if they followed the manga battle city rules. In the manga they could normal/tribute summon one monster from their hand and activate one spell from their hand. So if you wanted to activate a lot of spell in one turn you better be setting them turns in advance. Of course they made special summons so common that it defeated the point of the one 'normal/tribute' summon. So maybe special casting would start to happen?

I feel like it's pretty easy to fix though, just give it a tempo cost; Draw two cards during your next standby phase. You could still play it in any deck, but it'll only be good in situations where you have time. Which might make it bad in current Yu-Gi-Oh, but still would be a decent way for an interactive deck to beat out combo decks by sacrificing tempo for card advantage.

Wait, I'm confused. What exactly does pot of greed do again?

*Pot of Greed And Selfishness* Pay Half part of your Life Points then Draw 2 Cards, this effect cant be negated, this card effect can be use one time per turn.

One deck that might be broken is one where you have exodia pieces and pot of greed and that one exodia that requires exodia monsters in the graveyard.

My thought in balancing buffing it up a little to be able to draw some more cards. My pot of greediest greed would read: "Draw 56"

Really wish Yu-Gi-Oh! took a page out of Pokemons book and literally just rereleased cards with new effects to update them. Take Bulbasaur, there are many versions of it, but for the purpose of gameplay it still retains the name Bulbasaur regardless of which version. We could easily get new versions of older cards that better support their archtypes. We could give cards like Dark Magician and Blue-Eyes White Dragon effects and keep their original names. Would be great to have playable versions of older cards and still be able to retain the artworks for them. They have alternate versions but it's just not the same when it's not the origianl character. Obviously any card that currently sits on the banlist would remain banned from tournament play. Ban list can just be updated to say which versions specifically are banned. They also need Full Art Yu-Gi-Oh! cards. The Pokemon ones look unreal.

Cards are always a resource in basically all card games. Even in magic, you always want to try and at least trade 1 for 1 with your cards. The aim should be to try and get as many positive trades.

Pot of less Greed: Must be used at the start of Main Phase 1. Draw 2 cards, and when it resolves, you must end your turn.

one major problem of overpowered cards is simply in making the game boring to watch or play. Before the first banlist, Konami was noticing that more than a quarter of everyones deck was the same cards over and over and they knew that if they ever made a card too powerful again, eventually it was gonna get to half then more and more. Which is basically a roundabout way of saying they didn't want one deck to be Tier 0 and stagnate the entire game.

I've always liked the idea of a separate ban list, where it's exactly the same as the first, except: 1. There's no forbidden list, will make sense in a second 2. Out of all the cards on the limited list, you can only use one of those cards 3. Out of all the cards on the semi-limited list, you can only play 2 of them. I see how a 3rd list, one that's technically unlimited, but follows the same pattern as the other two, could also be here, but I don't think it's necessary. Its easy to say it should be a thing, but I imagine it being hard to implement in a physical tcg.

Don’t forget, Prosperity let’s you banish Pendulum monsters from the extra deck as well.

I feel like they could have just added text that only one could played a turn like with Spell Power Grasp!

Wondered why some cards are erratad instead of retrained like pot of greed. Look at goyo guardian i doubt it will be good pre errata in the current meta.

no more pot we need bong of greed

How strong would a "Draw 2 cards; Then your opponent draws 1" be? +0 as both players get +1 card. So would it be a problem turn one as pot of greed is, or is it still too powerful as it allows a too strong turn one play?

The fact that there’s so many cards that allow you to directly choose cards from your deck and add them to the hand or field, pot of greed while is great for consistency doesnt same that broken anymore compared to choosing your cards at no cost I think pot could comeback at 1 and wouldn’t change a thing

Anime effect Card of Santity was probably the most ridiculous plot device within card effects. Both players drawing up to 6 cards with no extra effects, insane.