Bambu P1S vs X1C - Which 3D Printer Is The Best?

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Loyal Moses

Loyal Moses

Жыл бұрын

The brand new Bambu Lab P1S was recently released and we're putting it head-to-head with the Bambu Lab X1C in this face-off to see which 3D printer prints the best!
We selected Polymaker ABS, because you likely want the P1P because of the enclosure, to specifically print with more advanced 3D printing filaments! If you are looking at the P1S as your first 3D printer to buy, or as your next 3D printer, you will want to watch! CoreXY 3D printers have gained in popularity this last year, and have quickly become stable enough to be great printers for beginners and experts. Some of the advantages of the P1S are benefits of this enclosure, being able to print ABS, ASA and other exotic filaments like Nylons and Polycarbonates outside of the regular, more common PLA and PETG filaments.
Thank you Bambu Lab for sending this P1S to us for us to celebrate and share with our community.
After we've had the P1S 3D printer for a few weeks we'll do a full review and complete comparison.
Bambu Affiliate Link:
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Print-in-place Vise Grip Model:
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@adamchambers7502
@adamchambers7502 27 күн бұрын
no stupid music, straight to the point, no benchies, engineering filament, functional part. subbed.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 27 күн бұрын
Thanks! Hope my other videos don’t run you off then! We try and make content for all audiences! 👊🔥
@mathiasglaser3079
@mathiasglaser3079 11 ай бұрын
Great to see I didn’t made a mistake with my order for a P1s with a AMS 🥳
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Such a good machine!!!
@iangeitner6434
@iangeitner6434 7 ай бұрын
How does this guy only have 10k subs? This is good work here. The audio is great, the video shots are great, and the content is true. I have both printers and he is spot on. I wonder though, if the model has bodies and split into parts, the imperfection can probably be overcome using overlap on that specific part.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 7 ай бұрын
That is very kind! Thank you very much! I'm new and working as fast as I can to bring in more subs! 💜
@shauncoulam9978
@shauncoulam9978 3 ай бұрын
Very true or even run the calibration for the material / flow calibration then that way as the X1C is using Lidar to adjust flow, the P1S will have been calibrated correctly. I have re run this exact model and there were zero differences between the two. I also own many X1C and P1S machines. The P1S is phenomenal for the price point. But i agree great videos and correct information that can be recreated at home. Genuine honest reviewing.
@ROOKTABULA
@ROOKTABULA 2 ай бұрын
4 months later: Over 22K. People are catching on
@matthewthompson7012
@matthewthompson7012 Жыл бұрын
The enclosure for 100 bucks more saves me from failed prints due to yellow lab hair flying into my prints.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Жыл бұрын
Yes! It’s just so good for so cheap.
@user-ph8zd9gq6z
@user-ph8zd9gq6z 4 ай бұрын
Same bro. My golden retrievers shed like crazy
@stephengrinaker5085
@stephengrinaker5085 3 ай бұрын
keeps my cats at bay also. "WHY CANT I GET IN THERE!!!"
@user-nr7bn8ip8f
@user-nr7bn8ip8f 11 ай бұрын
I can sense the absolute sincerity of this comparison. Well done sir!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! 💜
@jessaminutesir
@jessaminutesir 29 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video. It’s was straight to the facts. I’ve watched about half a dozen videos comparing the two and yours was the most straight forward. Thank you!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for that!!!
@tmtjg3
@tmtjg3 Жыл бұрын
Good take on these 2 printers. I would like to see the close up of the vise grips to see the first layer issues and compare the prints. Thank you for this great insight!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Жыл бұрын
Noted!
@TheReactorRoom
@TheReactorRoom 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the side by side. Reallly helps making a decision as a first time shopper for a starter printer
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
You bet! If you have questions, just ask! 💜
@Bobbyg2018
@Bobbyg2018 5 ай бұрын
High quality video with great content. I wish all youtubers had your audio setup - sounds terrific.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Some of our audio falls below standards - still trying to work out how to silence printers in the studio when recording!
@sparkplugsandbananas4678
@sparkplugsandbananas4678 6 ай бұрын
Great content, subbed immediately! You just confirmed my reasoning and P1S is on it's way. Looking forward to see how it compares to my Raise3D Pro2 in consistency with which I had 100% print success and 0% issues for well over a year now printing almost non-stop. Again, great content and superb quality 👊
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much and sorry for replying so late!
@sassysuzy4u
@sassysuzy4u 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I live in a small space and actually ordered the P1S because I have a bird that I didn't want to fly into an open printer haha. It's nice to see that I made a good choice to stay with the P1 instead up the more expensive X1.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Great choice and nice thinking about safety for your bird!
@Validole
@Validole 6 ай бұрын
If you have a bird, it should never be in the same room as the printer anyway, and the room should be preferably negative-pressure ventilated. Birds are ridiculously sensitive to volatile chemicals, like, say, ofdgassing from hot melting plastic
@MemelordSupreme
@MemelordSupreme Ай бұрын
@@Validole this and definitely don't do resin around them either,
@Joe_Galaska
@Joe_Galaska 11 ай бұрын
Nice to see more and more of your productions on KZfaq. Keep up the good work!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Joe! 😊
@uncannyrecovery3980
@uncannyrecovery3980 9 ай бұрын
New sub. I appreciate the review with true, common sense that went into it. Awesome
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the sub and kind words! I really appreciate that.
@joefaraone977
@joefaraone977 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for an excellent review. Simple & to the point!!!! If/when the time comes for an upgrade, it'll be the P1S.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Joe! You will love it!
@coolbeto1512
@coolbeto1512 20 күн бұрын
I love how this guy goes straight to the meat of the decision making! I’m going to buy the P1S as budget is a factor to my purchase. Thank you!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 20 күн бұрын
AWESOME! I am so glad I could help!
@Chookah
@Chookah 10 ай бұрын
Perfect video, and coincidentally exactly what I was looking for - an ABS comparison.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 10 ай бұрын
Very kind! Thank you! These enclosed machines are just getting better and better with ABSs and ASAs.
@Fanaticalfentons
@Fanaticalfentons 11 ай бұрын
Loyal you're putting out some of the best content on the bambu printers. Really good break down of each printer against one another ❤❤❤
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Wow Karl! I appreciate that!
@user-jv8ne2yb4h
@user-jv8ne2yb4h 5 ай бұрын
I posted this on your 23 machine buy or not buy video..... I just wanted to post this again here only because your talking P1S. Loved the video and looking forward to more of your expertise. I brought a Bambu Labs PSI Combo with the AMS and had it all up and running within the 15 minutes from unpacking the box to printing my first print with 2 minutes to spare just like Bambu Labs advertised. I started printing everything from poop containers, fridgets, signs, filament spools, and tons of other stuff along with a rack to hold up to 66 boxes/rolls of Bambu and Sunlu filament in their boxes. I've never owned or operated a 3 D Printer before. I've learned so much from trial and error with things like heater head temp changes to unclogging the head, changing build plate temps to help different filaments stick better or not. I printed off LED Risers in order to install more lighting in the print chamber. It's great and I love it. Thanks for all your help with your videos..... FYI, I've had the printer since the last week in Nov 2023 and as of today Feb 2024 I've used a little over 18 rolls of filament, printed hundreds of pieces and have 752 hours of print time on the P1S. I am proud to say that with that 752 hours of print time I've only had 3 issues with it and was able to solve those issues within a few hours. The P1S has been running almost continuously since I got it. I am definitely addicted to it. Now that I've practiced for the past 5 weeks almost non-stopped I'm thinking it's time to find a way to make a little money with this beautiful machine. Any ideas would be helpful..... Thanks again for all that you do......
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for this message and the other as well! I really appreciate you taking the time to share with me and I’m also super happy that you are enjoying your machine! Are you in our discord?!
@aerocreative
@aerocreative 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Watching this after having gotten a P1S and I’m agreeing with your sentiments
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! And congratulations! That’s such a good machine!
@graphguy
@graphguy 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for helping me to decide.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
You are so welcome! Share when you get it!
@diy_wizard
@diy_wizard 11 ай бұрын
Thanks! I’m currently considering busing a p1s instead of a x1c because oft the price! This videos was helpful!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Very welcome! It’s a great machine. You’ll be very happy!
@davidboop3550
@davidboop3550 10 ай бұрын
I like your videos dude. The KZfaq algorithm found you and I like what it found. Subscribed Thank you so much for doing a comparison without using PLA. Thank you!
@davidboop3550
@davidboop3550 10 ай бұрын
I think you just taught me something. That's why I subscribed. You mentioned that you noticed something on the first layer and that's flow related. Correct me if I'm wrong which I know I am because I'm the novice. I always thought you left first layer at 100 %. Should I change my initial flow rate to match the flow rate of non-initial layers?
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 10 ай бұрын
Thanks David! Welcome!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 10 ай бұрын
Flow rate can be adjusted on bottom and top layers if you are interested in detailed fine-tuning, but that isn't very common. Most of the time, you can simply adjust flow rate for your top layer, and leave it at that.
@battousaid1
@battousaid1 11 ай бұрын
Seeing all the amazing prints from a bambu printer makes me really want to save up for one with the ams
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
I know! These machines are just crazy good!
@Glebiys
@Glebiys 11 ай бұрын
P1S with AMS is $950. This is amazing value! I have X1C with AMS and plan to get P1S with AMS, to replace my 3 years old, fully working but slow Prusa MK3S, at my printing farm. My Prusa MK3S printed around 150KGs of PETG filament, without any problems and barely any maintenance.
@ZFGFZDGDFG
@ZFGFZDGDFG 10 ай бұрын
the ams is cool but i haven't really used it too much(more than on color on a print) after you do a few cool prints with it the bonus wares off as you have to purge nearly as much as what you are printing. it is however very useful for say you wanna print petg one print then the next you wanna do abs it is so easy to switch just a click of a button in the slicer. i think unless you are going to use the multiple colors a lot its not really worth it
@mattchumoore4214
@mattchumoore4214 6 ай бұрын
​@@ZFGFZDGDFG I see it being mainly useful with support interfacing with a soluble filament
@swdw973
@swdw973 11 ай бұрын
Got the P1S 2 weeks ago. Incredible printer for the price.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
So awesome you got one!
@FoxwoodCreative
@FoxwoodCreative 11 ай бұрын
Very nice overview thanks!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Very welcome!
@azpilotd4351
@azpilotd4351 6 ай бұрын
Stumbled across your channel recently as I am wanting to get into this amazing hobby. I used to be a guy that started cheap and worked their way up, but I just dont have the time and patience to "tinker" with something needlessly. That's not to say I dont like to problem solve and be creative as I do, but I want something that is generally going to work out of the box and any tinkering is done because I want to upgrade or I choose to do it. Anyway, going with what you say, I think I might just spend the extra and get the X1. You have earned a new subscriber for sure. Thanks
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
Wow! Thank you and that is a GREAT machine!!!
@tontweer
@tontweer 4 күн бұрын
6:03 this is the exact sentence I was looking for thanks!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 4 күн бұрын
Glad I could help!
@kylecorona8176
@kylecorona8176 9 күн бұрын
thanks for the video reallygood to the point and convinced me to get the p1s
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 4 күн бұрын
Awesome! I am so glad I could help!
@KrispyKronic
@KrispyKronic 4 ай бұрын
I was looking at getting my first printer, and was having trouble deciding between a p1p and a p1s.. mainly because I know nothing about 3d printing at this point. Thank you for making this vid, I'll be grabbing a p1s.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 4 ай бұрын
P1S if you have the budget, but either is okay, they print the same!
@gbblarggb
@gbblarggb 3 ай бұрын
Amazing video and explanation I immediately subbed
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!
@WreckDiver99
@WreckDiver99 6 ай бұрын
I have been kicking around between the X1C and P1S. I think the X1C is getting the nod if I go with it, mainly because I am planning to print in PC, Nylon and such. Yes, I can upgrade the P1S with the hardened gears, and nozzle, etc., but I'm kind of done with the "Tinkering" aspect of the hobby after nearly 15 years of doing it (yea, started in 2009 when the Mendel designs were released). I'm at the point where my Ender3 and CR-6SE are just not up to the task, and require me too much time to mess with after thousands and thousands of hours of print time. it is time for a new machine. I'll put these with my home built Mendel from 2009, and my i3 home built unit. Forever to be displayed in the shop. :)
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 6 ай бұрын
That is the top of the line machine on the market right now! Wow!
@DormantIdeasNIQ
@DormantIdeasNIQ 2 ай бұрын
As a noob... will be my first 3Dprinter, I am inclined to understand that you are exposing this correctly... so as I am vacillating between the P1S and the X1 Carbon, the answer I need to close my decision... The X1 C, in terms of its flexibility and output capability and variety, does it produce ALL its functionality if used standalone(NO CLOUD, ZERO CLOUD except for updates) ? What would I lose using it standalone that I would not care about... or care about?
@karlloeffler1755
@karlloeffler1755 2 ай бұрын
​@@LoyalMoses Still haven't pulled the trigger. Personally I need build space for some designs. They aren't TALL, they are just LARGE in surface area. One print is for a bike chain guard. 260mm in diameter, but only 10mm tall. I could divide it into 4 pieces and do a glue job, but I don't want to deal with that. I even looked at building a Voron, but now? Probably not. Again, I'm so over the tinkering side of it having built a few machines from nuts/bolts/printed parts, etc.
@karlloeffler1755
@karlloeffler1755 2 ай бұрын
@@DormantIdeasNIQ You are CLOUD BASED for more than your firmware with the Bambu. Matter of fact, more and more are forcing you to deal with the cloud to print in some way shape or form. If you don't want to deal with potential issues with using the cloud, stick with basic printers like an Ender3 (though I think those too now connect to the cloud for print management). Personally my 6SE and Ender3 are hooked to Octoprint, but I have everything closed off so it can't be used from outside the shop network I have. I'm the only one that has access to that network (or cares to) in the house. I doubt my wife even knows we have a "shop" network. LOL.
@DormantIdeasNIQ
@DormantIdeasNIQ 2 ай бұрын
@@karlloeffler1755 Thanks everyone for all your answers! I would go with the Prusa before I even get near an Ender(bad bad reviews on Enders)
@johnskinner7571
@johnskinner7571 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for all your information, I'm new to printing but it looks like the P1P for me. Keep up the great work! If you need to thin your herd of printers let me know, I can help.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! 😆
@fishlegend2536
@fishlegend2536 10 ай бұрын
Your print studio is sick 👍🏻
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! 💜
@Puffycheeks
@Puffycheeks 4 ай бұрын
Great video, Thank you.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mahyar305
@mahyar305 5 ай бұрын
I totally agree, got the P1S AMS recently, I go as far as saying that it is the best printer for that budget in the entire industry.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@melschannel4227
@melschannel4227 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I have been trying to figure out which one to go with.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
No problem! Whichever you choose, I hope it works out well for you!
@Reindeer-ry2lf
@Reindeer-ry2lf 11 ай бұрын
I have a X1 carbon and I love it. 📶💪🇺🇸😎
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
They are great machines!
@Bfab_Tech
@Bfab_Tech 4 ай бұрын
Just got the P1S it's a very cool printer
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic! Congrats!
@cutsleeve117
@cutsleeve117 4 ай бұрын
the price diff between the P1S and X1C is literally a grand in my currency, this comparison makes my upcoming decision a no-brainer!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 2 ай бұрын
Yikes.
@jumadhaheri
@jumadhaheri 11 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic 3d printer
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Heck yeah it is!
@JessandJenn2019
@JessandJenn2019 3 ай бұрын
My wife told me to get the X1C but now I'm debating... thanks!!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 3 ай бұрын
Wo! GO GET IT!
@aaronliebeck1062
@aaronliebeck1062 7 ай бұрын
I have the P1P that I upgraded to the P1S and I haven't looked back at my Ender 3 v2 since. Looking at the Qidi 3 Max for work too.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 7 ай бұрын
P1P/P1S are fantastic machines and the X-Max 3! WOW!
@MrHans-iy5lq
@MrHans-iy5lq 5 ай бұрын
Awesome quality I'm subbing for sure, found this video cause I'm in a dilemma to either get an x1c combo or a p1s combo and pay like 100 eur more and get a p1p as well so i can print multiple part stuff out faster. after the video I'm really leaning towards the p1s ams + p1p
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! 💜
@KiCkiN828
@KiCkiN828 11 ай бұрын
I'm going to order 1 or the other in September. Id rather have the P1Scombo because of the price. But it all depends on how fast they take to send it. The X1C combo is in stock all the time but Ive seen people complaining about lengthy wait times on the P1S. With the P1S gaining popularity Id imagine the lead time is going to get worse by the time i can order mine.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
From what I’m seeing right now, a lot of people who ordered last week have already received it or are receiving it Monday or Tuesday!
@KiCkiN828
@KiCkiN828 11 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses That's great. Thank you
@Sad-lawlessness
@Sad-lawlessness 9 ай бұрын
what did you end up going with@@KiCkiN828
@MattHealey.
@MattHealey. 11 ай бұрын
This is the printer that made be pull the trigger into fdm printing. It’s epic
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
That’s awesome to hear! Great choice too!
@markus5237
@markus5237 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your honest breakdown! Quick question: The process of upgrading the gear and extruder for the P1S should be exactly the same as the P1P right?
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Wow! Thank you for the Super Thanks! 💜 Yes, the upgrade is exactly the same. I’d highly recommend those upgrades so you can print carbon fiber or other more filaments without issue.
@skr3wb4llsr40
@skr3wb4llsr40 9 ай бұрын
I could never afford these type of printers. They are SOOOOOO AWESOME tho and GREAT video
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 9 ай бұрын
Thanks! I bet you can afford them soon, they are really coming down in price!
@skwashua
@skwashua Ай бұрын
I'm getting ready to throw my CR-10 out of the window. This was very helpful for what to replace it with. Thanks!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Ай бұрын
Let me know when you get a new machine!!!
@MWBgq
@MWBgq 10 ай бұрын
This video helped me decide between the two. Have been thinking about it in and off for a few months, and hadn't found a video that quite highlighted the details in the difference between the two. Looking for something to compliment my UP300 as I look to start printing more parts.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 10 ай бұрын
This is great to hear! Thank you! And whichever option you choose, I’m sure you will be very happy!
@RCMODZBOYZ
@RCMODZBOYZ 8 ай бұрын
UP300 owners seem few & far between. Good to see someone else using an UP300 👍 I'm annoyed with myself for buying too soon then the UP300D came out 🤦‍♂️ Other brands are tempting for a second machine to run 2 together.
@MWBgq
@MWBgq 8 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses I ended up with a P1S and have absolutely no regrets. I have not had a single failed print, with fairly complex designs (a modelled leather texture of 0.5mm height on the skin of a model, approx 17 million triangles total). It prints it absolutely flawlessly at almost 2x the speed of my UP300. The same model, same layer height infill etc is 14h on my UP300 and 8.5h on the Bambu P1S. Some of the time saving is tree support vs traditional, since UP Studio doesn't do tree supports, but a lot of it is the fact that I have the Bambu cranked to 450mm/s on almost every single feature while the UP300 starts seeing print defects at speeds above 120mm/s.
@MWBgq
@MWBgq 8 ай бұрын
@@RCMODZBOYZ I found the UP300 to be a fantastic first printer. Absurd price aside, it is an incredibly well designed machine that has given me 4 years of amazing prints. It has its moments, but they are in my opinion much less troublesome than hobbyist printers. As someone who picked up 3d printing to complement my other hobbies the Tiertime UP300 printer and now the Bambu P1S have been incredibly reliable, require infrequent calibration and adjustments allowing me to focus on the design and fit of my parts without having to add the hobby of tuning a printer. I calibrate/level the bed of the UP300 maybe once every 6 months. Slide the build plate out, remove print, slide it back in and start the next print. Both printers opened up a world of access to custom parts without being a timesoak themselves. I'll encourage everyone into 3d printing to consider spending that bit more for an entry level commercial printer capable of printing engineering filaments if that's something you have a use for. But even for just PLA, the reliability and detail these machines are capable of and their ample bed size, repeatable results and hassle free operation pays for itself in saved time, misprints and calibration alone.
@torvic6448
@torvic6448 4 ай бұрын
Merci pour votre sincérité qui apporte la réponse que nous recherchons. Je peux affirmer que la plupart des youtubeurs nous racontent des salades !
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 4 ай бұрын
You are very welcome! ❤️
@adamgoodone9161
@adamgoodone9161 Жыл бұрын
i wonder if using a 0.2 mm for high detail printing would make the difference. at that point though i would just use resin for high detailed printing. thinking of pulling the trigger on p1s with hardened extruder, nozzle, and print mat. with AMS. thanks for this video. cant wait to ditch my constantly breaking ender 3 that gave me nothing but frustration.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! 0.2mm nozzle performs crazy good on CoreXY machines because flow is so low the heater has no problem keeping filament flowing. I am so impressed with these machines! If you do grab one, I’d be grateful if you considered my affiliate link! loyal.ms/bambu - it helps a lot! 💜
@momobear66
@momobear66 5 ай бұрын
Great review!! I'm considering getting the P1s after having the A1, suddenly thinking of getting the X1. But after viewing your review, I'm happy to get the P1s with AMS, if I have the money to spend, I'll get another P1s without AMS. Two is better than one, right? ha!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
You will LOVE the P1S! Thank you!
@momobear66
@momobear66 5 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses can't wait to order it! BBL is taking lunar new year holiday. It is a pain waiting for them to come back. But I fully respect that! Ha!
@jordanbanas5564
@jordanbanas5564 9 ай бұрын
Hey I really enjoyed your video. Now I only print in pla now and have only gotten one spool of TPU. I plan on sticking with just these two for now. But which would you recommend between the p1S and the X 1C. I’ve had and Ender 3 pro for 2 years now with a sonic pad. I’m just ready for better print quality and tired of always messing with the calibration set ups and tuning.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! If budget is a concern, go with the P1S, you will REALLY enjoy it. It is an INCREDIBLE machine, and it will change your entire 3D printing world. If you can, get it with the AMS package!
@yusefpersona82
@yusefpersona82 8 ай бұрын
Thanks I was struggling to choose for the best price and quality ratio I’m going for the p1s.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 8 ай бұрын
Excellent choice!
@91rickstar
@91rickstar 2 ай бұрын
Wow there’s no layer lines 100% awesome prints loyal both look amazing in quality
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree!
@vaughanza
@vaughanza 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for a awesome video, I am in two minds as to which on to get as well. My question has the X1Carbon improved a lot since it was launched or since this review. Has the Lidar firmware been improved etc. Basically a big improvement ? Thanks
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! The X1C is definitely the better machine, but only if you want those more complicated filaments.
@theshenanigator154
@theshenanigator154 Жыл бұрын
Alright you sold me! I am ordering a P1S
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah!!!
@Samlilly2
@Samlilly2 Жыл бұрын
I got one on the way
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC!!! You’ll have to share how you like it! I’d love to know. Are you on our discord? discord.thelmshow.com
@haplo19
@haplo19 22 күн бұрын
One problem w this channel is that after spending a full video listening to your calm voice and gazing into your doe-y eyes i'm gonna buy anything you recommend 😶
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 21 күн бұрын
Oh you, making me blush!
@geezlix
@geezlix 11 ай бұрын
Hey LM, just found your channel and pounded through some of your latest videos. I really appreciate the content and your take on some of the newest printers out there. I'm curious, for someone that only prints PLA and PETG 90% of the time, what would you recommend between the X1C and the P1P? I'm interested in speed, AMS, and not having to worry about leveling. Would love your input, thanks!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Hey! Thanks for the message! Glad you found me! If you don’t think you’ll print with ABS, ASA, Nylons, etc - then the P1P w/ AMS is gonna save you a TON of money and you’ll be super happy. If you think there is a chance of printing something like ABS, then for $100 more you get the enclosed P1S w/ AMS - this is what I would choose!
@Libertrix
@Libertrix 5 ай бұрын
Dang man, if only Bambu would build a printer with an adult sized printbed. Id get one in a heartbeat
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
They are building the two most popular / common sizes 250mm and 180mm - large one (far less popular) is coming!
@Libertrix
@Libertrix 5 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses I see, thats good to know as many ppl seem to be waiting for a bigger one. I saw one video interview where they mentioned they are aware of it, but got no specific time when it will be ready. Guess i gotta research some more. Thanks for the info.
@peadookie
@peadookie 6 ай бұрын
The issue I have is deciding between the P1S and the Qidi X-Max. You give up a well polished product for a heated chamber and build volume. Would love to hear people’s thoughts. First printer.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
I would choose the P1S for the AMS potential, and the heated chamber if your printing needs require that.
@trapperjohn77
@trapperjohn77 7 ай бұрын
I had the X1 Carbon, loved it from day 1. Until the problems started. Carbon rods got so worn the machine started to vibrate alot. More problems arose so i sold it off before it broke down completely. Today i ordered a P1s. Can´t wait until it gets here. Gonna be fun tinkering with it. Thx for this vid.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 7 ай бұрын
I sure hope the new person knew the problem! Very welcome, these machines are just so good, and you’ll love the P1S too.
@juliusvalentinas
@juliusvalentinas 7 ай бұрын
Wow how many hours did the printer lasted before problems began?
@PatrickW3D
@PatrickW3D 11 ай бұрын
I need one of those NOS storage devices
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
They are nice, about $3k though.
@sewing_machines
@sewing_machines 11 ай бұрын
Hello, The Bambu Lab P1S can print nylon and carbon with some add accesories? Thank you for your review, was amazing!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Grab a hardened steel nozzle and hardened gears from them and upgrade! About a 20 minute upgrade.
@YoloVib3s
@YoloVib3s 10 ай бұрын
Wife & I just got our first P1S a few days ago. Which also happens to be our first 3D printer. We were both impressed with the print quality. I’m personally looking to print internal PC case components. However I’m not sure which material to use & if I should buy another P1S or get the X1C as research has shown PLA warps in high temps.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 10 ай бұрын
Congratulations! This is just awesome! PLA has the lowest softening temperature of all filaments, but it shouldn't be getting that hot inside of a PC, if it does, there are other problems!
@SynthaPak
@SynthaPak 10 ай бұрын
P1s should be able to print ABS which should hold up under most conditions plastics can hold up in, it is the material they use to make extruder housings for the voron hotends so it is going to hold up to fair amount of heat!
@jth_printed_designs
@jth_printed_designs 9 ай бұрын
x1c doesnt give you any more material capability than the p1s, since you can just get the hardened steel extruder gears and nozzles for the p1s. And you only need that for abrasive filaments
@geort45
@geort45 8 ай бұрын
been printing a lot of custom pieces for my pc in PLA, all good. They're not touching heat sources as the cpu or the gpu, though
@tekolicious8310
@tekolicious8310 11 ай бұрын
I just got the P1S Had it for a few days, it does print great, I am excited to use Different materials, but I do think there are somethings they need to fix, the screen is useless, I tried to print from it and had to go to the PC or app to get it to print. Another thing that is buggy is the sensors. it has a filament detector in the hot end and it will error even with it empty. the cover for the hotend as well causes errors. But the biggest weak point is the wifi, it drops off and is very weak. I usually have strong signal, but the screen shows the signal as 1 bar. Most of the errors won't clear until you reboot. Now don't get me wrong, I love the build quality and the print quality and think the price is fair, but lets be honest, its a very buggy product with great potential. Its still the best right now. Hopefully firmware will help in the future.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Oh wow! I’d contact support with each of your concerns to make sure they get resolved! It’s a great machine, and you want it to work at 100%! Also, congrats!
@tekolicious8310
@tekolicious8310 11 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses I have worked out most of the bugs and now am in love with the Bambu slicer/Orca slicer, really useful features and prints direct to my Bambu and V400
@pnowak2
@pnowak2 7 ай бұрын
@@tekolicious8310great news. can you share how you solved your problems for p1s ?
@tekolicious8310
@tekolicious8310 7 ай бұрын
@pnowak2 it was firmware that solved most of my problems, once I got to the 3 firmware upgrade all the problems were solved. So that means it was not a real problem but a software problem
@pnowak2
@pnowak2 7 ай бұрын
merci@@tekolicious8310
@Knowbody42
@Knowbody42 9 ай бұрын
The main issue with the AMS is the fact that it has to waste filament swapping between the different filaments. If Bambu added a second extruder, it would either not need to do that, or cut down on the amount of swapping it needs to do.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 9 ай бұрын
Or you can purge to infill, or right-click an object in the slicer to be the purge model. You can also tune purging for your specific filament color needs to reduce waste. There are A LOT of options.
@grahamwood3105
@grahamwood3105 4 ай бұрын
this is amazing video. thanks for the download . how hard is it to setup the p1s. for printing . please let me know
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 4 ай бұрын
P1S has an awesome out of box user experience, sets up very quickly and easily!
@JottyHB
@JottyHB 11 ай бұрын
As I don’t have a separate room for printing, the Bambu Lab printers are too loud for me. But speed isn’t so important for me, so my question is: are there „quite mode“ profiles in the slicer? Do you think, this is possible?
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
They have a “silent” mode, which essentially prints far slower and without nearly as much fan noise. Also yes, you can control fan speed in the slicer for your prints and could create a profile that was quieter than standard.
@adriandolha9582
@adriandolha9582 6 ай бұрын
Heloo !! P1s and x1c same speed of printing ? Thank YOU
@mattstout610
@mattstout610 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I'm so tired of seeing reviews where PLA is used for the example prints. I could care less about printing PLA trinkets. I could do that on my 150 dollar ender.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! PLA has come so far recently as well, it almost all prints exactly the same on every machine now, much like PETG in the last year.
@tgsparkyoriginal
@tgsparkyoriginal 11 ай бұрын
Still on the fence about which one to get AND also should I wait because I’d like a larger one 🤔
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Either will be great, and you can always grab a Neptune 3 Max for large prints at regular speed, otherwise you may be waiting for sometime.
@bebo6750
@bebo6750 11 ай бұрын
I have a question, do i need to keeo the door open or the top of the P1S to print PLA? Or its okay to leave it with everything closed?
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
PLA is a very soft polymer with low tolerance to high temperatures, and prone to heat-creep. If heat cannot escape the enclosure, the heat in the melt zone of the hot end will eventually travel upwards and cause the PLA to be softened prematurely and a jam will occur. Opening the front door, and / or having the top removed prevents heat build up in the chamber. Short answer, yes, always print PLA with the door open and / or top removed. Also, this is the same for our industrial 3D printers in the studio.
@abloun1575
@abloun1575 11 ай бұрын
Can the P1S with the necessary upgrades print Polycarbonate and nylon just as well as the X1C? Really leaning towards the P1S after this video. It says its capable on the website.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely! The enclosure makes it possible, and an upgraded extruder gear and nozzle are all that is necessary to add to your order. You’ll want to make sure you have a good bed adhesive, just like what we use on our industrial machines. Vision Miner NanoPolymer works incredibly well. I can’t recommend it more!
@abloun1575
@abloun1575 11 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses Thank you!
@dyops
@dyops Жыл бұрын
Make I ask how well the P1S filter or cover the fumes? If I get 1, it will be in my small office.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly good! With PLA, you’ll want the door or top open, and with ABS even with the doors closed, you will want fresh air in the room, and close ventilation or fully ventilated to be safe.
@jonathus48
@jonathus48 11 ай бұрын
Hi! Thanks for your review! Is there a difference in terms of noise level between the p1s and the x1c (when doors are closed) or is it similar? Thanks a lot!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
From what I can tell so far, they are exactly the same.
@jonathus48
@jonathus48 11 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses Thanks for your feedback!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 11 ай бұрын
@@jonathus48 anytime!
@DWIT3D
@DWIT3D Жыл бұрын
There shouldn't be much, if any difference in quality between these two if they are tuned properly. But, that's just my opinion. You can do a flow calibration print on the P1S/P1P and get the same results if you know what you are doing.Another note, for only $192CDN, you can upgrade your P1P to a P1S, which is a hell of a deal considering if you price all the parts separately, the come to over $280CDN!!! Why would you NOT upgrade your P1P for such a small price?
@user-vx4ge3xc2b
@user-vx4ge3xc2b 6 ай бұрын
Hey, hope you are doing well. I Loved watching your Tutorial videos on KZfaq. as a beginner in the 3d printing world, i wanted to consult with you regarding which printer i should buy. I've done some research and seen many models out there. My main concerns regarding which printer to buy were: 1.Precision of the 3d model. 2.Printing Multicolor 4+ 3.Top Layer quality of the print. 4. can print big models So the best printer i found to match my requirements was the: Bambulab X1C, since it can prints multi color. i also noticed that there's something called Pallet 3 pro, but i didn't like the quality that was printed with this tool. So I'm here to ask you if you can recommend a printer that fits my requirements? my budget is up to 1,500$ for the printer. The main purpose of the printer is to print colorful 3d action figure models, that's why i need the precision. Also printing big models like masks or big Pokémon dolls and try to retail them after in my local shop. I Would really appreciate your help and advice!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! I hope you are well too! The bambu experience is the best we’ve seen, and I would lean my recommendations in that direction.
@DormantIdeasNIQ
@DormantIdeasNIQ 2 ай бұрын
I subscribe and give you a 'like' because you answer most of the questions that are pertinent except for maybe one that I posted below.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I’ll try and find your question!
@damian-offthegrid4092
@damian-offthegrid4092 10 ай бұрын
I have an X1 and if I’m not mistaken..in this video you are running a textured bed. In which the flow calibration does not work with it…so this would effect this comparison?
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 10 ай бұрын
Yes, you are right, we caught that after the upload, and are doing another video.
@zalatanyy
@zalatanyy 7 ай бұрын
​@@LoyalMoseswhere is update about it? Would love to see it
@Luptonium
@Luptonium Жыл бұрын
Drawinmg, you going to do an art stream?
@KurtDNixon
@KurtDNixon 10 ай бұрын
Can the extruder and hot end on the P1S be upgraded to the hardened steel one that is used on the X1C?
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely! They are available on the website!
@Higzilla
@Higzilla Жыл бұрын
What speed were you printing ABS? were they printed at the same speed? Enjoying your vids. I am trying to decide between the K1 and Bambu offerings X1C is not off the table, but Money is an issue.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Жыл бұрын
200mm/s outer wall, everything else 300mm/s. Both printed at same speed. Tonight during the show LIVE, I just printed it again at 124% of that speed in Sport mode, and it came out PERFECT!
@maxdgac
@maxdgac 6 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses How long it takes ?
@italiano0317
@italiano0317 4 ай бұрын
If I add a hardened steel nozzle on the Bambu P1s, would I be able to run CF-PETG without any other modifications? If I wanted to be able to run carbon fiber nylon or CF-PET, only then I would have to get a different hotend? I am trying to make sure I understood your last statement about the P1s. Thank you for your time.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Ай бұрын
YES! You upgrade the nozzle and the extruder gears!
@hbot2758
@hbot2758 9 ай бұрын
My Creality CR-10s just died and instead of replacing the motherboard, I decided to upgrade because of the inconsistency of its prints. Does the Bambu x1c print more consistently than the p1s because of the lidar and spaghetti protection? My cr-10s messed up every other print in any number of ways, so I'm really looking for a printer that will print almost always.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 9 ай бұрын
Both machines have been extremely reliable, both print identical results. You can’t go wrong with either choice.
@MrIonutz2008
@MrIonutz2008 5 ай бұрын
Hey, what would be your choice between the P1S and Qidi X Max 3 ? I like the P1S more than Qidi but i would love to have the print size of Qidi X Max 3. Thank you.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
I would choose the P1S for the AMS potential.
@djbneozen
@djbneozen 9 ай бұрын
What extruder comes with the PS1? I know that the 0.2 can do fine details and that you have to upgrade the extruder to do materials that have carbon glass in them is that right? But what comes with it? Someone said buy the .02 and the .06 and the hot material components? Super newbie here. Just started watching videos yesterday before I make my purchase. I plan on getting the PS1. It's just for printing toys and fun things with my kids. Nothing more for now. Subscribed
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 9 ай бұрын
Hey! Welcome and thanks for the sub! Most printers ship with a 0.4mm nozzle, some like LulzBot ship with a 0.5mm nozzle. If you are just starting, don't worry at all about ordering extra nozzles to change. Start simple, print, learn and enjoy it, there is PLENTY of time to upgrade and know what you want to do next. P1S is an AWESOME machine! I hope you get it!
@3dmedicvince449
@3dmedicvince449 Жыл бұрын
If you don't need all the added features of the X1C then get a P1S with the AMS for less than the X1C.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Жыл бұрын
Great point! 🔥
@rayxxkaiser3586
@rayxxkaiser3586 5 ай бұрын
The AI technology I think can be replaced by visual inspection, the issue I am concerned about the most is at the beginning when printing an object with an almost horizontal surface, the P1S sometimes fails. Good video!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@JunkyardPerformance
@JunkyardPerformance 3 ай бұрын
Man I just found you video thank you but can I print carbon fiber on the p1s or can I upgrade it to do carbon fiber I don't want to spend the money on a x1c cause I will only be doing carbon printing once a month
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 2 ай бұрын
You should upgrade nozzle and gears before printing CF
@Foxfried
@Foxfried 2 ай бұрын
You need to compare Budget Filament on the X1C vs P1S. Big difference, the X1C will print all filaments with great quality where as the p1s will struggle.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 2 ай бұрын
I've not heard that before.
@tombo7719
@tombo7719 Жыл бұрын
Anyone point me in the right direction for the fan shrouds for the P1S upgrade? The MC fan, and the Cabin fan? I have been printing in the P1P in a tent up till the time I got the enclosure done, the back for the P1S won't be available till 7th of next month, so looking to get ready for it... Bambu Lab.. if you see this.. can you please get those files up and available for us? OR.. are you selling these? Either or.. we need those files.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Жыл бұрын
Ah. I haven’t seen if there are files available yet. I imagine that would only be a matter of time.
@BartNoble
@BartNoble Ай бұрын
With both printers sharing the same surface/table/stand, do you think vibrations from either could have affected each others quality?
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Ай бұрын
I’m sure at some level yes, but this isn’t rocket science, just melting plastic so I didn’t think it’s anything we’d detect with our eyes.
@cameronbasford8991
@cameronbasford8991 4 ай бұрын
If I was looking at either of these two, to mainly print CF, which would be the pick?
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 4 ай бұрын
If you have the budget, the X1C because of the interface and it is ready to go for CF.
@tiddybagel
@tiddybagel 7 ай бұрын
Just got my P1S with AMS for 850!
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 7 ай бұрын
Congratulations! How are you liking it?!
@Brap_Lord
@Brap_Lord 6 ай бұрын
Would’ve loved to have seen a more in depth comparison- same filament on both, but different benchy’s and tolerance test, overhang angle test, stringing test, etc. this video was good for an “at glance” comparison, but I don’t think it was informational enough to help someone decide which machine to buy for long term use.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 6 ай бұрын
Great! Then it was exactly what I wanted it to be.
@bennguyen1313
@bennguyen1313 2 ай бұрын
Aside from Lidar, the other big advantage of the X1C over the P1S is that it supports more materials, no? BTW, any thoughts how the Bambu P1S compares to Infimech TX?
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 2 ай бұрын
I’ve used the infimech, but I haven’t seen anything yet that makes me believe it can beat the Bambu Lab ecosystem, but I really don’t like to judge without using one.
@kompisworld
@kompisworld 6 ай бұрын
Which machine would you recommend for 3d printing shoes? Has to have a work area of 300x300mm.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses 5 ай бұрын
That would be awesome to do! 300mm or greater look at QIDI X-Max 3 and some newer ones on the market this year!
@cbking95
@cbking95 Жыл бұрын
My enclosed well p1p prints asa almost exactly the same as my x1c. I've calibrated all my filaments in Ocra slicer for both machines though so I don't use the lidar.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Жыл бұрын
Yes!!! That is just awesome!
@cbking95
@cbking95 Жыл бұрын
@LoyalMoses I only print on textured pei so lidar doesn't do anything for me. I'll be ordering a P1S hopefully next month.
@LoyalMoses
@LoyalMoses Жыл бұрын
@@cbking95 that makes sense! Also, awesome!!! If you remember, I’d appreciate it if you’d consider using my affiliate link! loyal.ms/bambu - it helps a lot! 💜
@lucase764
@lucase764 Жыл бұрын
When you say you calibrated your filaments on your p1p, are you checking your flow rate with a cube or another print? Is there a test pattern like pressure advance or linear advance that is available?
@cbking95
@cbking95 Жыл бұрын
@@lucase764 orca slicer has flow calibration tools and a PA tower as well as temp towers
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