BSJ PLS DO A VID FOR THIS. Which hero pressure vs relieve pressure. which carry plays where. like ive playes LS like this cause i like to play pressure heroes like TB and PL and sven. ive kinda played them the same. my ancients and enemey safe lane. pressure...i learned a lot this vid

You guys should watch his video called when to stay in your lane on which characters. Not called that exactly but it discusses it

@@archerss can't seem to find it, can you comment an exact title?

Lol dude...

Jugg shits on ls min 0 to end

Hahahahaha

he beats every core late game

This people had no idea what he's really talking about 🤣🤣🤣

same, lmao

Hahahahahahahahahaha same

He has already made that video. He has mentioned in many videos that you cant go to the creepwave when its pushing heavily into you

@@flashnimi if I'm not mistaken it's in the fundamental vids

@@TheBakmoi oh sick! I’ll check that out

He kinda said it, depends on your survivability and your ability to farm. Mobility & damage vs the camps accounting for. and those numbers change throughout the game

Defensive aggro. Right click any enemy hero on the map, drag enemy melee creeps to your ranged, then drop aggro by attack commanding your own creep. This way you can usually walk up and finish their ranged creep because your melee creeps will smack them if they hit you. If its too dangerous, you are right to just deny yours.

Melee hero: def aggro, cut trees near ur jungle to fog after secure ranged, def aggro again to drag remaining creeps close to your tower Ranged hero: bully them mf then hit/use skill to ranged

if you're defensively aggro the creeps and still find securing the range too dangerous, ex heroes that can nuke 70% of your hp if you try, then the support should last hit it, but if they can't then you sometimes have to give that creep up and focus on denying yours yes. it all depends on how safe you feel and what the heroes can do to you if you go for the last hit, also if you're ex playing sven or pl then using your Q to secure ranged creeps are TOTALLY OKAY

most people do including me i see a lv 25 SF and im scared asf before game starts, after laning phase im confused why the enemy midlaner is so bad...{ i guess they farm their mastery in turbo games and not in ranked i supose (unless that doesnt work, i dont touch unranked/turbo since 4-5 years ago)

He needs to leave them to huskar or tide I think. LS needs to be on the top half of the map switching to mid at intervals.

Thank you the rest are clear now

Drow is extremely fragile hero, if you can stay in your lane great otherwise go triangle. Luna farms neutrals extremely fast so she leaves lane pretty early that's why heroes like winter wyvern who can defend your safe lane are great. I can't remember range hero who stays as long as lifestealer so I would say play triangle when you are range hero. (obviously there are exceptions) Edit: weaver stays in lane as long as humanly possible just like lifestealer

Keen to hear BSJ's take on this but I reckon because Naix is a melee "chase" hero the phasing and, to a lesser extent, the armour of PBs outweighs PTs.

@@Sawubona2007 - That is a good point, too! In most of his guides, he visualizes the outcome of the game middle and end. Prolly, one Bracer and one Drop are enough to make Naix survive the lane. I assume that the equilibrium takes the bigger part to make him more survivable. And we have to take note that the first-tier tower has additional armor and +1 heal.

@@Cain_69 LS have high attack speed. his passive + lvl10 talent while he dealt little damage due to the base dmg nerf. So personally i think its really good for ls to me. Other carry lack attack speed so i usually bought thread

@@SilverHand-fu1jn - You are right. So to sum it up, , . Wand, 1 Bracer, 1 Teardrop, Equilibrium, and Tower Armor/Regen, are more than enough for LS in the early game. And it should also be applicable for WK vs heroes such as Necrophos.

@@dadangbeceng887 - So when you mentioned, "a very safe farming game", and considering the kind of player who played Lifestealer in the game, it seems logical that PT could have been a better choice. But regarding the movement speed, getting boots alone is a far better option in the high tier. It gives LS the chance to last hit and avoid quickly the Death Pulse.

Is Armlet still good in LS? When do you go Armlet and when do you go Mael? Trying to improve my LS game and still have a problem to which to build..

@@adlaonrobb armlet means u r smacking people in face and mael means u r smacking creeps in face. So go for armlet if u think you can't stay in lane with mael coz they can trade better with you and the stats from armlet will let you stay in lane. Go for mael first if u think u can survive the lane with just rage and can sit there clearing wave then camps fast.

@@white_wolf9413 So I guess to add on this is that you go armlet if you're planning to go finish the game early and be involved with fights more while mael is when you try to focus on farm in order to win mid to late game right?

@@adlaonrobb actually no its not about finishing game early but more about making sure you can survive the early game fights if you finish game early that's a side product. Mael straight is when u don't need that early survivability. You'll still be going for maelstorm after armlet so its more about do you actually need the armlet to survive or not .

@@white_wolf9413 Thank you! I'll try to apply it to my games

Tbh you can. If I’m able to smurf easily in 3000 and 1v9 them it means you can.

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Fast farmers play bottom. Luna, Sven, Clinkz that type of heroes leave their lane when they want a.k.a clearing ancients efficiently or they are weak like Clinkz. Heroes that farm slowly have 1 more ability to fight or sustain (jug spin, LS frenzy, weaver shikuchi etc.). They don't farm neutrals fast enough to leave their lane so they defend their tower and yoink enemy's ancients given a chance.

For dire, heroes that hard to be caught like LS, slark, weaver tries to stay on top where it's the most dangerous to farm

BSJ always saying something like "Safelane isnt actually safe" Triangle is safer than safelane. This isn't looking at usual creep. its considering the ancient camps. With that in mind, only several hero that can survive in dangerous lane that optimally farm it. Heroes that hard to catch. Such as Naix, Slark, Morph, Weaver. Why? Not because the lane itself, but because these heroes steal opponent ancient. Thats the real threat of these heroes. The triangle invaders. These heroes can dive so deep to enemy ancient and retreat even when they chased by three ambushers. How often we alone can catch these hero early game? like never. Its dangerous to face one of these heroes alone, and they simply retreat when ambushed. we need all 5 to be able to catch these heroes. So yeah, fast farming usually talk about farm as much ancient as you can. When your ancient gone to the enemy, your carry usually will have slower farm. Ultimately, under-farmed and gets rolled.

This video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f5yVhMeVv7rSeZc.html. Heroes that are hard to kill deny enemy objectives by staying in the deadlane as long as possible.

For ls defense is offense and if they cant wrap you around then they are making trouble if you occupy that big space in safe lane except for bad start

Which lane is called the dead lane is different for each game. The concept of a dead lane just means that if your team is trying to farm all 3 lanes, someone will die somewhere because you're too spread out. Instead, you choose 2 lanes to farm, and the third is called the dead lane because nobody is allowed to show there. When someone does show there the rest of the team needs to be more careful. Most often (probably), top is the dead lane for Dire because the carry usually plays bottom to farm efficiently.

Yes. MOST of the time you want to avoid the deadlane. The enemy team should prioritise going to your deadlane because its the easiest objective for them. Your team should stay away from it because its the hardest objective for you, based on where the creeps meets. But on specific heroes like lifestealer, weaver, slark etc... who farm slower than other safelaners but are super survivable, their job is to stay in the deadlane as long as possible to prevent the enemy from taking objectives. This is explained in a recent video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f5yVhMeVv7rSeZc.html

@@Zukuarinokushi in pretty much every BSJ video he is really clear about the "safelane" becoming the dead lane after the tower goes down. I have seen nothing but him telling to go to the triangle and push out the offlane.. It is why I was surprised when he said few of the things he did here.

​@@AntiSociety100 I know, top and mid top and mid... Usually that's the case. I'm just saying the deadlane concept is about one lane being "dead" because if you show on all 3 lanes someone will die. It doesn't have much to do with where a carry hero wants to be.

go to his twitch and if u donet him he ll coaching u jst read what he write in his twitch

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@@BSJ I aprecieate your honesty. Thank's for the guide i ll try to follow it, in my next game as ls.

My 1426 th lifestealer game !

I'm only 2.8k mmr but what I gathered from this video is that it depends on how fast your hero farms and how hard it is to kill you.. if you farm slow you want to slow them down so you farm top because you're hard to kill.. if you're weak like Luna early, you farm bot but you do it very efficiently.. try and apply that to other heroes..

The only other hero I can think of is wk with his ult and skellies. Other than those two I think you just play bottom

So other heroes that can sit in their lane are jugg, slark, naga, riki and wk. These guys dont yoink the enemy ancient but u can still sit in the lane and just play that part of map. All of these heroes are either too survivable like jugg, slark, riki or they can clear wave fast or safely like naga, wk. But it can change depending on enemy heroes. Just stay in lane if u can with any hero except the ones that can clear whole jungle in mins like sven, luna coz they can get more farm from going to jungle.

So jugg specifically will stay in his safelane in a game where he is essentially unkillable (no bkb piercing stuns/ only reactable stuns) AND there are heroes on his team that can create pressure in the offlane. If these two conditions are met jugg is happy to stay in his safelane for an extended period of time similar to how bsj talks about this lifestealer. I actually remember a video bsj did years ago where he did exactly that as jugg. I also recommend you check out the recent video bsj put out about the types of heroes that stay in the safelane (survivable slow farming carries).

@@nathanaels9605 When to pick lifestealer or jugg ? I mean how their gameplay differ in your opinion?

@@shiteshchourasia jugg is good at pressuring towers ig

@@orlandomolina6394 Got it thanks. Are there any more difference in their playstyle?

Go mid, max shift, buy 2 wraith bands, lifesteal, treads. Buy eblade if there aren't many kill threats on u or if u think u can get a lot of kills if u get it in a timely manner. Don't buy eblade if you need survival. Make sure u feel u can survive, then u can buy eblade after the manta/bkb/linkens or in some cases don't buy it at all. If enemy mid leaves lane, kill their tower. Beware of heroes that can disable u instantly (before u can react with shift), think lion, skywrath, ss, rubick. Once u get eblade, look for opportunities to kill, but try not to join teamfights first. With eblade, morph is kind of an assassin. In many cases u can try to solokill the enemy carry while they still weak. I could probably say more, but I just got bored. I'm no BSJ, but I am 4k

@@mikelisbalodis8937 thanks for the advice man, i think its a powerful hero which i am currently training myself on and there's invoker also which i will learn later

BSJ has a morphling guide

my thought would be to focus more on sustain, maybe your support buys a headdress/buckler to help you out in ignoring the right clicks? im not sure, just my thoughts

@@hoobisha9256 I am asking more about how the lane equilibrium should be managed.

@@Freefrost Ah, I must have misread. In that case I believe it would be best to constantly push the wave into them. I remember BSJ having a video about Outworld devourer/destroyer when he was nuts saying that if you keep the wave pushed, the enemy cant hit you. That might help, not sure.

@@hoobisha9256 I watched the OD video, thanks. It's rough, because these tactics are more appropriate for heroes with wave clear. LS has none, so, yeah, fck. I would stick to jugg vs skywrath then, hehe.

Boots, dps, consumable sustain. Run at them without aggroing creeps, make them run away. Push the lane as fast as possible. If they run away then hit you, they have no lasthits and you will outsustain them. If they run away then lasthit, you are in no danger and are happy. If they dont run you will out trade them. Viper is a real problem because he will out trade you at least at lvl 1 when you cant have both rage and feast. You can block and defensive aggro to drag enemy creeps under your tower so the wave will push into viper and you can get lvl 2. Really hard if your support doesnt either push, distract or give you solo xp.

The only time you should need your support to do something about lane equilibrium is when the enemy pulls.

u agro and pull if ur support doesnt

He has a fundamentals video on lane equilibrium, check that out

they're trying to cope with how low their own MMR is lol

Haha, that went under the radar. It's like he wanted to go Sange first, and ... **error does not compute**

Thats why you pick sange only in quick buy first, he bought the band not thinking about it

no longer pierces spell immunity

Are you playing 7.07 dota patch tho

based on the matchup, enemy can hardly kill LS, so LS can stay and farm top aggressively.