Barbarian Multiclass Tier Ranking in D&D 5e

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0:53 - Intro
1:33 - Artificer
3:02 - Bard
6:15 - Cleric
9:00 - Druid
14:24 - Fighter
17:27 - Monk
23:34 - Paladin
25:52 - Ranger
28:13 - Rogue
31:57 - Sorcerer / Warlock / Wizard
34:44 - Final Rankings and Community Rankings
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@lunamoth34
@lunamoth34 Жыл бұрын
The things that make the Barbarian/Warlock work are armor of agathys (non-concentration) and the eldritch smite invocation. It's not the strongest build but it's still a much better route than anything sorcerer or wizard brings.
@plasmagamer1771
@plasmagamer1771 Жыл бұрын
You can also cast mage armor and get a +3 to AC. Edit: Alright just looked at mage armor and found out this doesn’t work. This is because mage armor doesn’t stack as the the wording is “makes your AC equal to 13 + dex modifier”
@Vawk20
@Vawk20 Жыл бұрын
Clockwork sorcerer also gives armor of Agathys and other abilities that support the spell that you can use in rage
@MadnessOpus
@MadnessOpus Жыл бұрын
@@Vawk20 Yeah, but you need at least two levels to swap out the previous spell. Hexblade Warlock benefits you way better with just one.
@SirStanleytheStumbler
@SirStanleytheStumbler Жыл бұрын
@@MadnessOpus True but a nice DM might let you swap at level 1.
@SGRODmaster
@SGRODmaster Жыл бұрын
​@@plasmagamer1771 Mage Armor makes your AC 13 plus your Dex mod. It doesn't stack with Unarmored Defense, which makes your AC 10 plus your Dex mod plus your Con mod.
@markbrosinsky5230
@markbrosinsky5230 Жыл бұрын
I DM'd for a friend who wanted to play the BardBarian combo and what I did was I added a feat they could take I called warrior song. Essentially it was the raging barbarian could concentrate on spells during a rage by singing to their gods or ancestors or whatever. They could not cast a new spell during rage but as long as they kept up the warrior song they maintained concentration. This was effected by things like silence or some other effect that caused them not to be able to voice their song. It was not overpowered in my opinion and was very fun at the table.
@Grooveworthy
@Grooveworthy Жыл бұрын
That's really cool, I'd limit it to verbal component spells, but it totally makes sense
@claire3614
@claire3614 Жыл бұрын
​@@Grooveworthy I don't get why someone would do that, if the spell is casted before they go into a rage and the quid is they need to be able to sing (verbal component each turn) in subsequent turns if raging to be able to mantain concentration, this ability is already adding a constant need foor verbal component after the casting, that's going to bring with it a lot of limitations for the raging barbarian to consider that will begin immediately when casted and will remain for as many turns after the casting as they can hold concentration. As I see this, limiting this to only spells that already had a verbal component does nothing for balancing a HB mechanic that's already well balanced, but it would only take away from the spells the barbarian can concentrate on and the possibilities at their disposal
@benjin3993
@benjin3993 7 ай бұрын
Toss it onto a weapon, like a fluted haft of an ax so it whistles with each strike. Or a singing bowstaff that whistles through air. Each strike can imbue a bardic die to add spell damage to the strike. Let's you burn bardic die since you won't be using them during rages.
@odg1190
@odg1190 2 ай бұрын
Simon singing Cheers in Adventure time lol
@Sway2andfro
@Sway2andfro Жыл бұрын
I made a fun barbarian artificer build. It had a Dr Jekyll / Mr. Hyde premise. Where a bugbear beast barbarian (named Jackel Snide) was granted superior intellect. While he's Dr jackel he uses his full range of abilities until hearing a trigger word (VENGEANCE). This sends him into a full blown rage and gives over more towards that animalistic side of bug bear. (Btw the trigger for him to regain his sanity was "Mommy loves you")
@fatpower3426
@fatpower3426 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant
@markfarnsworth3340
@markfarnsworth3340 Жыл бұрын
The gentleness and sincerity in which Monty says I do when responding to Kelly saying you love the barbarian great axe @22:45 just warms the cockles of my D&D heart.
@ekenks8650
@ekenks8650 Жыл бұрын
Treantmonk has a great barbarian warlock build on his channel. Basically, it combines armor of Agathys with rage for tons of extra hp and radiating damage
@robertsilvermyst7325
@robertsilvermyst7325 Жыл бұрын
For the MonkBarian, I have seen this done pretty well in play. Our group had a lv 3 Bear Totem, Lv 15 Long Death Monk Dwarf. His gimmick was rage, attack, and when he needed to heal, Patient Defense and use his dwarf feature to regain some HP. He would also use his ki points for either flurry of blows, or Mastery of Death to keep himself up at 1 HP.
@jaspermooren5883
@jaspermooren5883 10 ай бұрын
This is cool, but more a monk with barbarian than a barbarian with monk though. I think the barbarian multiclass is better for a monk than the monk multiclass is for the barbarian.
@Pyr0G
@Pyr0G 9 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t it be called a Bonk?
@Matthias-pj6th
@Matthias-pj6th Жыл бұрын
That Barbarian / Peace Cleric reminds me of something from another TTRPG... In Exalted you had these things called "Limit Breaks" where a character get's pushed to their mental/emotional limit and snaps before acting either in exaggeration or direct opposition of their greatest Virtue, one of said Limit Breaks for a high Compassion character is literally "Violently Rage at the Stupidity of War!"
@sifuculreif6448
@sifuculreif6448 Жыл бұрын
Oh, god... It's the WokeBarian.
@martinalbertomoraleslopez3786
@martinalbertomoraleslopez3786 Жыл бұрын
Barbarian/Peace Cleric is Bender from Futurama saying: The whole world must learn of our peaceful ways! By force!!
@shishkabobby
@shishkabobby 10 ай бұрын
Jessie Peace, the Peace Domain Barbarian. He follows the path 0f non-violence up until the point when he just looses it. He was not as famous as his brother Warren.
@RaefGall
@RaefGall 10 ай бұрын
One thing I've been looking at with a Rogue/Barbarian is the fact that Uncanny Dodge says "half damage" so it stacks with a Barbarian's resistance.
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo 6 ай бұрын
So...quarter damage?
@MrThierryFournier
@MrThierryFournier 4 ай бұрын
Danger sense and evasion combo, especially has a totem bear Barbarian, is also something to not look over.
@Fella_friend
@Fella_friend 2 ай бұрын
@@lovelessissimoit’s already labeled that it’s half or no damage with other rogue abilities. It’s how we rule it in our games. Currently I’m playing a rogue barian but it’s much more rogue than barbarian.
@Nonobabloogey
@Nonobabloogey Жыл бұрын
Barbarian-Cleric who’s on probation so he has to do nice things for the community to make his PO happy, but all he wants to do is swing his axe (bonus points: give him an axe with the staff of healing ability, call it The Random Axe Of Kindness)
@argylewarrior1
@argylewarrior1 Жыл бұрын
i love it!
@johnathanrhoades7751
@johnathanrhoades7751 Жыл бұрын
@Al Jean I’m assuming “PO” is “parole officer” here. I love the “Random Axe of Kindness” 😊
@sifuculreif6448
@sifuculreif6448 Жыл бұрын
@Al Jean Hey, the Greek Gods were mainly worshipped out of fearing their wrath. Zeus, Apollo, Hera, Hades, None of them were nice by human standards. I say a Barbarian in forced divine servitude is very Greek.
@TTDundee
@TTDundee Жыл бұрын
6:20 actually you can still rage in heavy armour, you just don’t gain the base benefits of rage (and fast movement) Any later rage benefits including subclass features will still work (bear totem giving resistance to all damage except psychic still includes bludgeoning, piercing and slashing) “While raging, you gain the following benefits if you aren’t wearing heavy armor” this stipulation is only on the base rage feature
@guyman1570
@guyman1570 Жыл бұрын
Um, actually, there's more to it than just one feature that comes with the no-armor requirement... "While raging, you gain the following benefits if you aren't wearing heavy armor: - You have advantage on Strength checks and Strength saving throws. - When you make a melee weapon attack using Strength, you gain a bonus to the damage roll that increases as you gain levels as a barbarian, as shown in the Rage Damage column of the Barbarian table. - You have resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage."
@guyman1570
@guyman1570 Жыл бұрын
To be fair... You're right about Totem Bear still working regardless of armor or no armor.
@lloydlineske2642
@lloydlineske2642 Жыл бұрын
@@guyman1570 I'm glad you caught that. I was coming to let you know.... So... Umm.... Carry on, I suppose.
@Peter_Cordes
@Peter_Cordes Жыл бұрын
@@guyman1570 Heavy Armor also disables Fast Movement, but other than that it could work. You still get Danger Sense and Reckless Attack, but no bonus damage or advantage on Str rolls while raging. So it could work with an artificer multiclass perhaps, if they buff before combat.
@cakel7896
@cakel7896 Жыл бұрын
For warlocks, you get invocations at lvl 2 and a pact boon at lvl 3; There are plenty of options there unrelated to spells or simply used for out of combat. There are even warlock sub classes such as the Undead or even the Fathomless that have a lvl 1 feature that's an ongoing benefit during battle. In general, warlocks don't have many spell slots and just burning them on armor of agathys is pretty good.
@JuckiCZ
@JuckiCZ Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that Ranger dip gives you Expertise, so our Shoves or Grappling becomes god-like! And then there are things like Fighting Style, Horde Breaker, Dread Ambusher, or spells that work great with Barbarian - Longstrider, Goodberry,… Fey Wanderer 3 is also awesome on dual wielding Barbarian!
@moraien3278
@moraien3278 6 ай бұрын
Exactly and Absolutly!
@playlistb3795
@playlistb3795 Жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, Flurry of Blows is not tied to the 'Martial Arts' feature, but to the Ki feature, meaning you can use it while wielding a Heavy Two-Handed axe. Neither is Stunning strike tied to it. They do work together! Also, I could see a Raging Reckless Attacking Monkbarian bonus action Patient Defense, that sounds pretty good
@ruga-ventoj
@ruga-ventoj Жыл бұрын
Yup, Martial Arts is mostly there to let you use Dex on attacks when it normally can't and what's the Normal stat? STRENGTH!! So go ahead and start using a Great axe and flurry of blow with Str. If for any reason you lose the axe, then you got access to your fists to go all reckless punching.
@Peter_Cordes
@Peter_Cordes Жыл бұрын
@@ruga-ventoj - Martial Arts is also there to let the bonus action unarmed strike(s) not suck, including the 2 from flurry of blows or 1 for free. So it's important for all monks, otherwise flurry of blows would be 2x 1+str damage, as well as the benefit you mentioned for attack rolls. Correct that if your weapon is good enough and you're attacking with your preferred stat already, you don't want to use it on your Attack action, though. But yes, well spotted @Playlist B that Flurry of Blows only requires that you take the Attack action, not that you attacked with a monk weapon or unarmed. Interestingly, the free bonus action to make one unarmed strike does depend on making an unarmed strike or using a monk weapon during your Attack action, so you can't use it with grapple/shove or with a non-monk weapon, only flurry of blows.
@travisdillman5600
@travisdillman5600 Жыл бұрын
Works great for Drunken Masters who don't need wisdom for their feats and can make 5 bonus attacks with Intoxicated Frenzy
@jonathangordon9911
@jonathangordon9911 Жыл бұрын
The rules for monk actually say you CAN use your dex modifier instead of your strength mod. You don't have to. Also, warhammers are covered by kensei monk if I'm not mistaken. That's a brutal combination.
@chesh05
@chesh05 Жыл бұрын
How did you completely whiff the opportunity to say Barbonk? XD
@qdcents
@qdcents Жыл бұрын
Most mechanics will tell you, percussive maintance works 80% of the time. So Artbarian thematically works. Also has decent synergies if you go battle smith
@wumbojet
@wumbojet Жыл бұрын
A Totem Warrior artificer that crafts their own totemic machines inhabited by nature spirits sounds like an incredible concept
@Albatross0913
@Albatross0913 Жыл бұрын
*Bartificer
@neurotypicaljotchua8726
@neurotypicaljotchua8726 Жыл бұрын
YES thank you for saying this
@TheDreamburner
@TheDreamburner Жыл бұрын
Barbarians break stuff. But the Artillerist likes that idea, and the roving cannon isn't bad as you're raging. Thieves' tools proficiency is underrated for breaking and disabling devices well. Armorsmith with the thunder gauntlets isn't bad at all, and works kind of nicely with Path of the Ancestral Guardian to get more than one target to focus on you and make one of them do less damage if they go after your allies. Grab Sentinel, have some tanking fun.
@burgscratch6301
@burgscratch6301 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, honestly Artibarian isn't a bad combo at all! Unlike something like the Druid or the Bard, Artificers are half-casters specifically. They CAN spellcast, but spellcasting isn't the main focus. Not to mention that a good many of Artificer class and subclass features don't specifically require spellcasting. Except Alchemist, but I don't think that it is a good Artificer anyway, so I'm gonna ignore that. What boils down to a good Barbarian subclass or not is how core class/subclass mechanics interact with Rage, because Barbarians are all about that RAGE. Full spellcasters, even Druids, I think generally do not mix. You are meant to cast spells. Rage specifically prevents you from doing that. Thus, better places to look are the classes that don't require *spellcasting*. Artificer is a great example; it has other uses for spell slots aside from spellcasting, and its focus is more on magical items, not spellcasting. However, the spells it has access to are also great forms of utility. Personally, I think Artillerist and Battle Smith are great picks, but Armorer is also a good choice, too.
@ahrenstarr6273
@ahrenstarr6273 10 ай бұрын
23:00 Given the Monk discussion, really curious to hear their thoughts on Tavern Brawler in BG3. Seems like Larian tweaked those rules to make this happen.
@mattdahm4289
@mattdahm4289 Жыл бұрын
Dudes, this video series is dope- it’s so fun and improvisatory but totally informative. It’s a pleasure. Thank you! ❤
@relaxedfantasyreview
@relaxedfantasyreview Жыл бұрын
The fact that you guys bring up Brutal Legend (one of my favorite games of all time) made me so happy 😁
@carterkloetstra7144
@carterkloetstra7144 Жыл бұрын
Kensei Monk with Path of the Beast gets lets you count your claws as monk weapons so you could get 4 or 5 attacks each turn using strength. The bonus action attack would be your martial arts die and if you hit with it you would get a bonus to your AC. Later as a monk you could get sharpen the blade letting you add up to +3 to your claws. And your claw damage would increase to larger dice later as your monk die grows.
@mcinc.1003
@mcinc.1003 Жыл бұрын
You don’t even need Kensei, the beast barbarian uses simple martial weapons in which you are proficient. Even if you don’t count the beast weapons as included in the simple weapons a monk is proficient in (because they are proficient in all of them) dedicated weapon allows you to use any weapon you are proficient with as a monk weapon as long as the weapon doesn’t have the heavy or special property
@yuvalgabay1023
@yuvalgabay1023 Жыл бұрын
,the problem is i cant be good whit 4 stats. You just cant
@mcinc.1003
@mcinc.1003 Жыл бұрын
@@yuvalgabay1023 and that is why it is not an S, but maybe a B instead of B-
@brazen_helm
@brazen_helm Жыл бұрын
@@yuvalgabay1023 you don't need to be amazing with all 4 stats, you just need to be good enough to qualify for the multiclass. With point buy and a race with bonuses to 2 of the 4 stats you can easily get a 16 in 1 stat and 14s in the other 3, which is absolutely enough to make the combination work
@yuvalgabay1023
@yuvalgabay1023 Жыл бұрын
@@brazen_helm its will be workble but i have the feeling you will be not so good barb and not so good monk .
@KirbyQwop
@KirbyQwop 9 ай бұрын
I’ve been thinking of dipping into 1 or 2 levels of Peace Domain Cleric so you guys shouting that out is awesome!
@mzex1307
@mzex1307 Жыл бұрын
Wild Magic Barbarian and Wild Magic Sorcerer is a blast, usually when you least expect it. It's not the most optimal in combat, but it leaves an impression.
@Wackydude27
@Wackydude27 Жыл бұрын
I gave mine lightning lure, booming blade, shield, and mage armor to use before raging. It worked fine until he got angry 😂
@davidburesh
@davidburesh Жыл бұрын
One thing that did not get called out in the Barbarian / Artificer section is the synergy option in the Totem Barbarian / Armorer Artificer. You can Infuse a suit of Medium armor with Psychic Resistance (6th level), and a +1 Shield. At 5th level in either class, you get the Bonus Attack. You can still use your Strength for the Thunder Gauntlets Attack while in a Rage, and you have a Bonus Action got give yourself Temp HP, which always combos well with Barbarian.
@VanBurenPhilips
@VanBurenPhilips Жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool. Can cast Aid too, right?
@derekseaton4412
@derekseaton4412 Жыл бұрын
Also, Bear Totem resistances apply when you are in Heavy Armor RAW. You just miss out on the Bonus damage and Advantage on Str checks
@TheHandgunhero
@TheHandgunhero Жыл бұрын
@@VanBurenPhilips Yes, it's an Artificer spell.
@lloydlineske2642
@lloydlineske2642 Жыл бұрын
@@derekseaton4412 This checks out. Two of the effects at that level say if you aren't wearing heavy armor. This ability does not say that so does in fact work when in heavy armor. I know you know. Just confirming it to anyone else that reads this
@jeffreyweber6526
@jeffreyweber6526 Жыл бұрын
Infiltrator barbarian
@alexmoran8662
@alexmoran8662 Жыл бұрын
Haha I couldn’t help but to think of Ginny impersonating you guys during the “bardbarian” ranking, Monty goes low and Kelly says but the name is cool! Same with D4s they’re shaped like little pyramids, S tier die lol
@HAOSxy
@HAOSxy Жыл бұрын
20:40 path of the beast actually works, by the rules, simple weapons in which you are proficient count as monk weapons. In fact, combining it with Kensei monk makes an actually good multiclass.
@LokangoFreewar15
@LokangoFreewar15 Жыл бұрын
I would love it if it worked with agile parry... Unfortunately to get the +2 AC you need to wield a weapon RAW and your DM can reasonably argue that you can't wield your claws because you don't wield your hands (Same reason claws don't work with dueling fighting style)
@goodberry4825
@goodberry4825 Жыл бұрын
I think what they meant was they don't count as unarmed strikes, but you're right about them counting as monk weapons.
@Cheddarcheesemonkey
@Cheddarcheesemonkey Жыл бұрын
Came here to say this
@ballen_at_mit
@ballen_at_mit Жыл бұрын
Beast Barbarian 6/Kensei Monk x is actually pretty strong. Currently playing in a campaign with one and you can get up to 35ish DPR (not gonna list full calcs here). But the secret is - dedicated weapon / kensei weapon to get a 1d8 weapon to activate monk features with your attack action - path of the beast claws for an additional two 1d6 attacks with your attack action - martial arts / flurry of blows for either one or two 1d4 bonus attack attacks - all attacks get your str mod and rage bonus - all attacks at advantage because of reckless attack it really does peak right at level 9/10 overall and you mainly gain versatility/extra ki points with the rest of your monk levels, but once you have 3-4 ki points, you can potentially make 5 attacks a turn for an entire combat and that's just plain cool. of course, you do nothing besides this but still battleaxe claw claw kick kick is an awesome turn
@Lukedabomb50
@Lukedabomb50 Жыл бұрын
My girlfriend played a Beast Barb/Monk in a one-shot I did, it was level 5, so 3 levels barb and 2 levels Monk and she loved it. We didn't think it would do so great, but it exceeded expectations. Not sure how well it would work at higher levels, but lower levels make the Flurry of Blows with Reckless super cool
@loganabbitt3994
@loganabbitt3994 Жыл бұрын
I made an NPC Bardbarian I was quite fond of. He was a retired soldier turned barfly that would tell wonderful stories of his glory days to his eager audience. If a stranger dared to call him a liar they could find out just how capable a warrior he still was under that beer gut. Before fighting, he used cantrips like Friends and Vicious Mockery to really mess with people, but he wasn't afraid of a good barroom brawl.
@ghego8815
@ghego8815 Жыл бұрын
When multiclassing with Paladin, Lay on Hands becomes so much better, cause when you heal yourself during rage those hitpoints are actually doubled, i'd say it's up there with fighters and rogues for S tier
@JoelCSabo
@JoelCSabo Жыл бұрын
Wait, what? I need details here!
@denodagor
@denodagor Жыл бұрын
@@JoelCSabo Since you take half damage to almost anything while raging, having 5 HP basically means 10 HP
@Bluur
@Bluur Жыл бұрын
You can also do this with Monk Way of Mercy healing. Keep punching and then occasionally heal yourself also with punching.
@JoelCSabo
@JoelCSabo Жыл бұрын
@@denodagor that tracks. I thought I had missed some glorious synergy somewhere that let you actually heal double while raging. Would've been irresponsibly OP. Thank you!
@guyman1570
@guyman1570 Жыл бұрын
​@Joel Sabo It's not illegal to use LOH during a rage, but if you're not attacking, you'll lose the Rage at end of turn.
@LokangoFreewar15
@LokangoFreewar15 Жыл бұрын
36:18 Bear totem/Chain Celestial. Armor of agathys + Gift of the Everliving ones + Healing light + rage + Aasimar has a lot of potential
@unboundsoul3582
@unboundsoul3582 Жыл бұрын
Throw in a periapt of health, Eldritch smite, Mirror image, hell, even try genie patron for out of battle casting and non-concentration flight!
@twicedeadmage
@twicedeadmage Жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm sold on this one.
@-Daidalos
@-Daidalos Жыл бұрын
It's kinda wild to see the snippet about the barbearian and for a while there's a D ranking on Kelly's side and an S ranking on Monty's side.
@jessewinter5826
@jessewinter5826 Жыл бұрын
Honestly might be a great meme format.
@joshhall3040
@joshhall3040 8 ай бұрын
Watching this again to decide if I want to make a barbarian with fighter dip or fighter with barbarian dip. And just now noticed the Gini Di eyebrow hat. Love it!!! I'm a patron for both you and them and love seeing you colab.
@jpjfrey5673
@jpjfrey5673 Жыл бұрын
Correction: Druids can concentrate on spells from the get go in Wild Shape, they don't need Beast Spells from level 18 to do it. They can *cast* them from Wild Shape at 18th level And while Monks cannot use 2 handed weapons, Tasha's optional feature allows Monks to turn weapons that aren't Heavy or Special into Monk weapons. Battleaxe is close enough, not every single melee martial build has to rely on GWM
@keeganmbg6999
@keeganmbg6999 Жыл бұрын
Fucking thank you. The fact that everyone says you have to have GWM to me is just insane. I understand the numerical advantage it gives you but dealing damage is not the only point in the game.
@johndevlin9225
@johndevlin9225 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, a melee martial build that isn’t doing good damage isn’t really providing anything in combat. They don’t generally have any features that help them do anything else. Don’t say tanking, there’s maybe half a subclass that can actually fulfil that role, and it’s still very limited. If you don’t want to build around combat, that’s cool, but then there’s no point discussing the combat effectiveness of multiclass options.
@TheHandgunhero
@TheHandgunhero Жыл бұрын
@@johndevlin9225 A Barbarian running great weapon master spends a valuable ASI or Feat and prevents them with point buy or standard array from maxing out their AC. A Barbarian running a shield can get a decent AC, and you can use subclasses like the Ancestral Guardian to reliably tank and draw aggro. A Barbarian when they max their Constitution and draws aggro is insanely durable and one of the best tanking options out there. There's more to melee fighters than maxing out damage.
@johndevlin9225
@johndevlin9225 Жыл бұрын
@@TheHandgunhero Ancestral guardian was the half a subclass I was referring to, which enables you to gain fairly good control of one enemy as long as you are raging. If there are multiple enemies, or you don’t have enough rages to last the day, or the enemies are at a distance, you have basically no power over them. Still, it is probably the best tank in the game (which says more about the quality of the other tank options). As for drawing aggro, what do you mean by that? Being a very durable target that doesn’t do a lot of damage sounds like the enemies will walk past you and attack your allies that are actually a threat. And if you don’t have a reach weapon because you’re holding a shield then you aren’t even threatening a large area with your one opportunity attack. As for maxing out your ac, do you mean with unarmoured defence? How many ASIs do you think you’re getting? Because by wearing a breastplate (and there’s no reason for a barbarian not to) and having a +2 dex you have an ac that won’t be beaten unarmoured until you have a combined dex and con mod of +7, and that’s gonna take until at least level 16 if you want to max your primary ability score first, and that’s assuming you take no feats at all. I don’t see how a barbarian that focuses all their ASIs into maxing con and carries a shield is a tank at all. Sure they can take a lot of damage, but they have no tools to prevent their allies taking damage. They have a single opportunity attack, and that’s it, unless they’re the one subclass with any kind of ability that helps with this.
@Peter_Cordes
@Peter_Cordes Жыл бұрын
@@johndevlin9225 "drawing aggro" means convincing a key enemy to attack you instead of someone else. Usually by making it a worse option to attack someone else, usually by imposing disadvantage on attacks against anyone else. Like a Battlemaster's goading attack, or Ancestral Protectors which is disadvantage *and* resistance to the attack. (That only triggers on your turn, not op attacks anyway, but fair point about not controlling a large area to stop enemies with Sentinel, or just the threat of damage.) Of course it's not "aggro" like in an mmorpg like WoW; in D&D it's just a narrative thing, not mechanically forcing them to. Even the Compelled Duel spell is only disadvantage against other creatures, and only force a Wis save to move more than 30 feet away from you.
@j5joker9
@j5joker9 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to making a brutal legends like character, I found that instead of multiclassing the barbarian and bard you can instead multiclass bard with tempest cleric. I made a dwarf character that uses a battle axe as a guitar and blasts lighting as he plays some wicked riffs
@Tomyironmane
@Tomyironmane 11 ай бұрын
In regards to your barbarian peace cleric... I have five words for you. "Court Ordered Anger Management Classes."
@purpledevilr7463
@purpledevilr7463 5 ай бұрын
For Barbarian-Rogue. Technically all finesse weapons can use dexterity, but it’s not mandatory. You can use any weapon with this.
@DrLongWang
@DrLongWang Жыл бұрын
Something you didn’t mention about the Druid multiclass is that you can use unarmored defense while wildshaped. Most beasts have good dex and con but low ac, so that combined with the resistance makes wild shape a lot better.
@PsyrenXY
@PsyrenXY Жыл бұрын
Came here to say this. Definitely B or A tier
@WolfbloodJakeWilliams
@WolfbloodJakeWilliams Жыл бұрын
You can use multiattack while wildshaped too. Any creature that doesn't already get multiattack becomes crazy powerful, and it can even help the ones that do, since most say 'you make one attack with (strong ability) and one with (weaker ability)' but if you have multiattack from barbarian you can make two with the strong ability. This also applies to a fighter 11 druid 9 for what may be the craziest 20th level multiclass.
@not-a-theist8251
@not-a-theist8251 Жыл бұрын
Better sure but you lose two levels of druid and you aren't able to rage and wildeshaoe in the same turn. It's really not that great of a multiclass. Treantmonk's Temble is currently making videos about wildeshape and explains all of that pretty good
@The_Crimson_Witch
@The_Crimson_Witch Жыл бұрын
@Not- A-Theist You can rage and wildshape in the same turn. Moon druid says you *can* use a bonus action to wildshape instead of an action, rather than saying wildshape *becomes* a bonus action for you. Because of this neat little wording, you can use your action to wildshape and your bonus action to rage.
@josephbrayton116
@josephbrayton116 Жыл бұрын
​@@The_Crimson_Witch true, but if you use your action to wildshape, unless you've leveled into Barbarian 15, you've just used both your action and your bonus action, which means you've lost the chance to attack. You then have to pray the enemy isn't smart enough to steer clear of you/not run away from you so you can either take damage or get an opportunity attack. Otherwise you lose rage.
@relaxedfantasyreview
@relaxedfantasyreview Жыл бұрын
How about an alchemist artificer/wild magic barbarian? You get the magic from your potions (no casting or concentration required) and you get the theme of chaos from both subclasses. It's not great, but I reckon it bumps the multiclass to a C at least.
@jacobrichardson9834
@jacobrichardson9834 Жыл бұрын
And it just sounds fun! I'm playing a wild magic barbarian with a homebrew magic mushroom tea kit. Whenever I drink the mushroom tea, I roll a d12 and a magical effect happens. Some are from the alchemist elixirs and the rest are from the wild magic sorcerer table.
@bradwillis7415
@bradwillis7415 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@TheHandgunhero
@TheHandgunhero Жыл бұрын
Mechanically it doesn't synergise, but what actually bumps it to C is the Armourer Artificer. You can use Thunder Gauntlets with reckless attack and strength, you can wear armour as a Barbarian so long as it's not heavy and boost your AC, you get infusions which give you useful utility if needed and you can draw aggro better without needing to be an Ancestral Guardian. You can even get the infusion that gives you resistance on Psychic Damage as a Totem Warrior.
@relaxedfantasyreview
@relaxedfantasyreview Жыл бұрын
@@TheHandgunhero for AC and utility purposes, I couldn't agree more. The only problem is that the weapons can't be combined with the awesome feats like GWM, so it lacks a bit in the damage department.
@AnaseSkyrider
@AnaseSkyrider Жыл бұрын
@@TheHandgunhero Thunder Gauntlets aren't doing a whole lot, though, given that they're just d8 weapons. You're trading much better weapons for the pseudo-taunt ability.
@ranekeisenkralle8265
@ranekeisenkralle8265 Жыл бұрын
Pertaining to the Barbarian/Artificer, there is one way I can see for this to work: To use the Artificer's spellcasting outside of combat for the most part. I mean, the artificer gets a bunch of utility spells that may prove useful in a pinch. Plus not having to worry about a spellbook like a wizard is a nice bonus if you can use essentially your infused item as a focus - like your greataxe for instance.
@the_markoman
@the_markoman 11 ай бұрын
While the Barbarian Artificer pulls you in two different directions, I'd still give it at least a C. The artificer is very much about support and utility, so you have a number of non-concentration spells that can buff you before going into a rage. Topping it off with infusions, the steel defender or alchemist potions, you're setting yourself up to with a lot of buffs and extra defense. I can see a build that gives you some more utlity, but primarily makes you better as a tank.
@_mosscat
@_mosscat Жыл бұрын
For monk build: the rolling with difficulty podcast has a astral self/barbarian character. The astral arms let you use your wisdom in place of strength for checks and also lets you make unarmed strikes using your wisdom. The DM ruled that the rage bonuses still apply to attacks, checks, and saves when using wisdom in this case. The character is by no means a power build and it requires a nice DM, but all the features in the build synergise well.
@menarg1549
@menarg1549 Жыл бұрын
i like this one, the arms say you *can* use your wisdom modifier in place of your strength or dex, so you can still use your strength and get to rage bonus and reckless attack with reach, without nice DMing, and attacking 4 times per turn with at level 8, a 1d6 +4 from strength and a +2 from rage on every attack dealing force damage could be pretty decent (this would be a barb 2 monk 6 i think) going wisdom with DM buy in gets you a really good AC compared to the strength build but you can of course still get a 15 AC on the strength build with the mountain dwarf and still have a 40 foot move speed once you hit monk 5 I would still agree that it's probably a B tier build though
@konradianknight
@konradianknight Жыл бұрын
I like the general idea,, but then I realise you need a bonus action for Astral Arms, then another bonus action for rage. :(
@menarg1549
@menarg1549 Жыл бұрын
@@konradianknight true, but astral arms is 10 min duration atleast
@konradianknight
@konradianknight Жыл бұрын
@@menarg1549 Oh yeah I forgot about that, I was wondering if you could pre-activated one.
@tkal17
@tkal17 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids boys. They are full of great info and are very entertaining. You two are great together. Keep em coming! Your vids helped me to increase me interest in DnD as well as different perspective on gameplay and roleplaying. Thanks very much for your efforts. I'll burn a blunt in your honors =D
@Murderus
@Murderus Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to watch every single one of these videos for all the classes
@dracoflame33
@dracoflame33 Жыл бұрын
I do want to touch on the Monk/Barbarian build idea, because there is one thing that does help it out tremendously; and while it doesn’t allow for greataxes and heavy weapons, it still does a lot. Dedicated Weapon at Level 2 for monk. If you’re Barbarian, multiclassing into Monk, you meet all the criteria to have a heavy hitting weapon, using your strength, and have it be a monk weapon.
@jude2214
@jude2214 Жыл бұрын
Honestly a monk going 3 levels into barbarian is where I think it works the best. Beast totem barbarian on a monk, especially something already tanky like mercy or long death, makes you feel damn near unkillable
@83ericp
@83ericp Жыл бұрын
Colby has a great mercy monk/barbarian build over on d4 deep dive that is self healing to boost the rage damage mitigation
@jonthefox
@jonthefox Жыл бұрын
Note that Beast weapons are simple melee weapons, which is why the claws count as a monk weapon
@LokangoFreewar15
@LokangoFreewar15 Жыл бұрын
Love the idea, as a turtle strength monk to use reckless attack
@angelharpe8323
@angelharpe8323 Жыл бұрын
In regard to barb/rogue, you can use the double bladed scimitar from Ebberon because the feat gives in finesse
@jothrax4673
@jothrax4673 Жыл бұрын
I had a Gloomstalker/Barbarian and it was pretty fun. She played like you suggested - ranger abilities for exploration and barbarian for combat. I actually did take the Archery fighting style so that if something was far out of range I had a better chance of hitting with a longbow.
@ashleywalla4087
@ashleywalla4087 Жыл бұрын
29:10 Kelly's little sing-song "Double scimitars." with the little dance afterward is great.
@shawngallagher8764
@shawngallagher8764 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you tackled the difficulties of Barb/Monk cause I’ve wanted to play a character based on a boxer type, and my initial idea was Barb 3 (Bear Totem) and the rest Monk (most likely Long Death for the resilient boxer)
@fendelphi
@fendelphi Жыл бұрын
There is a funny(but very specific) build with Barb(beast level 6 with high jump) and Monk(level 4 slow fall), where you do constant high jumps with a grappled enemy to knock them down and prone, then keep attacking. 1) Grapple target(cost 1 "attack"). 2) Spend your move to make a high jump. Make a Strength(Athletics) check and add that number to your jump height(should easily be over 10 in total). 3) As you and your enemy fall down(1d6 bludgeoning damage for every 10 feet), negate any fall damage you might take by using your reaction and Slow Fall feature(reduce damage by 5x your monk level, so 20). 4) If your enemy takes any damage from this, they are knocked prone, while you still hold on to them(prone requires half your max movement to stand up. Grapple means speed is 0, so no movement points). 5) Your enemy is now prone and you can use your second attack of the round to strike with advantage. 6a) On the enemy's turn, they can use their action to try to stop your grapple(they have to beat you in an athletics contest). If they succeed(unlikely), they are no longer grappled, but are still prone. As a result, they can only crawl, or stand up, using half their movement. 6b) Or the enemy can choose to attack you while still grappled and prone. This gives them disadvantage against you. 7a) If the enemy has escaped, just go back to 1) and start over. 7b) If the enemy is still grappled, you can do a dive bomb again(dealing a bit of damage) and then attack twice. Other benefits to this build. 1) You get to use a Tail(beast 3) to use as a defensive tool in situations where you want to spend your reaction on avoid direct damage rather than grappling(add 1d8 to your AC). 2) You can also choose to spend your reaction on Deflect Missiles. In both cases, it gives you a way to avoid powerful attacks. 3) You can jump high and grapple a flying creature, causing their speed to get reduced to 0, meaning instant falling. 4) Your Martial arts attack bonus action and Flurry of Blows can benefit from Rage damage modifiers. 5) Set up a wrestling competition with your party's Bard as your hypeman and ring announcer.
@fendelphi
@fendelphi Жыл бұрын
@@Wintermute909 You can, but it requires your bonus action and you can only do it once per short rest.
@talongreenlee7704
@talongreenlee7704 Жыл бұрын
You could do an alchemist barbarian and burn all your spell slots on elixirs, which don’t count as spells and don’t require concentration.
@keeganmbg6999
@keeganmbg6999 Жыл бұрын
Solid argument for Alchemist actually being useful.
@bradwillis7415
@bradwillis7415 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@redbeard5939
@redbeard5939 Жыл бұрын
The Jekyll and Hyde
@talongreenlee7704
@talongreenlee7704 Жыл бұрын
@@redbeard5939 I was actually thinking more like a gym bro frat jock who knocks back his bless-in-a-can and then crushes the can on his forehead, but that’s a cool idea too.
@camranm.6319
@camranm.6319 Жыл бұрын
I loved the energy from this episode
@trevorhawke
@trevorhawke Жыл бұрын
Something I did that was interesting to get around the stunning strike issue. Is Barb 3 Monk 3 Bear totem, and Astral Monk. While it might take two turns to set up due to bonus action limitations. You get extra arms to do unarmored strikes while also carrying another weapon. My character was also a Warforged, so my DM created armblades for me. Which was fun.
@aaronwik6799
@aaronwik6799 Жыл бұрын
Barbarian with Bladesinger Wizard reminds me of Tulok the Barbrarian's build for Eda Clawthorne. I think the thematics of it alone are pretty sick, but also the actual play of it. You can switch between these forms depending on what you need in the moment, so I think it's got a lot more versatility than most would expect. Song of Defense much like Divine Smite lets you use your spell slots to provide benefits that bypass the anti-spellcasting drawback of rage. I think there's something decent there.
@TTDundee
@TTDundee Жыл бұрын
I would say warlock is a C, armor of agathys can be cast before combat/raging and rage/reckless attack makes the spell even better. Also Eldritch smite.
@LeChevalierduLys
@LeChevalierduLys Жыл бұрын
Add Hexblade's curse and relentless curse to that😉
@byurBUDdy
@byurBUDdy Жыл бұрын
I know this was about the Barbarian, but during their exposition on the Monk multi-class, I recalled the monk I made on Icewind Dale II, and the best item I found in the game. It was a necklace that granted bear claws once per day and added 1d9 to each strike, in addition to the damage of the monks unarmed strike. Imagine if the barbarian monk got a hold of that item.
@richardchisenhall387
@richardchisenhall387 10 ай бұрын
Just something I've been working on while looking into fun sounding builds, I came up with the path of the beast barbarian main subclass plus 6 levels of ascended dragon monk, played with a dragonborn character. It ups the amount you can use the breath weapon, you can run around with no armor to really show off the dragon heritage, adds extra punch to your unarmed attacks through the natural weapons provided by beast rage, you get wings and a tail (temporary but still there) as well as fangs and claws
@Shadowrendx
@Shadowrendx Жыл бұрын
Only other thing I would mention is that for the barbarian/druid combo, at lvl 10 moon druid you can wildshape into elementals. They have a MUCH better hp pool, and with rage and bear totem that makes them an absolute monster. Basically ever single elemental option gives you a minimum of around 200 extra hp while raging as a bear totem
@donovandawson9190
@donovandawson9190 Жыл бұрын
I think 11 druid for 6th lvl spells and 9 barbarian is optimal I believe 9 is brutal crit right?
@frankbarbee3212
@frankbarbee3212 Жыл бұрын
They didn't mention that moon druid can use spell slots to heal itself. I don't believe that feature counts as casting a spell so it should be available while raging.
@Shadowrendx
@Shadowrendx Жыл бұрын
@@donovandawson9190 slightly up for interpretation just because brutal critical says you can roll extra “weapon damage dice”. So depending upon on your dm they might make it only count for weapons. But if you have a nice dm it should work
@falador1504
@falador1504 Жыл бұрын
The thing about barbarian is that is you focus on a lot of out of combat utility spells that don't rely on your modifier too much, like invisibility and if you get to level 3 you can take expertise in athletics and be a grappling monster. Also you can use bardic inspiration while raging, which is nice.
@davec8385
@davec8385 Жыл бұрын
I've played a barberian warlock before and it worked quite well! You aren't restricted to taking the eldrich blast invocations because you focus on weapon attacks. This allows you to take the utility options or buffs like constant false life. You won't be taking hexblade but any of the other patrons are great because they give spell like abilities without being actual spells so you can use them in rage. The Celestial's healing light is a standout because it's effectively free free uses of healing word while raging to bring up an ally or to be used on yourself to further buff your HP pool. I think it's best as a dip and is easily higher than a D, likely a C or B.
@JablesMcDrumster
@JablesMcDrumster Жыл бұрын
I played a Wild Magic Barbarian with 3 levels in Fighter for Battlemaster maneuvers, and HO-LEE-CRAP was he a magnificent beast of a damage dealer. I typically doubled or tripled the damage done by any other party member, and sometimes even all of them combined. It was nuts. And SUPER fun to play!
@dgthunderer
@dgthunderer Жыл бұрын
Barbarian with cunning action is very strong. I played a defensive focused goblin barbarian and the ability to disengage from one dying enemy to go help out where the three new enemies appeared came in clutch so many times.
@glassberg5018
@glassberg5018 Жыл бұрын
In the last campaign I played it, one of the others players was a Rogue-Barbarian. Reckless attack to get advantage, drop an assload of sneak attack dice, disengage and pick your next victim.
@Ramses917
@Ramses917 11 ай бұрын
I had been super excited to play a monk barbarian in baldurs gate 3 and finally got to try it out. Unarmed Beserker, granted without the exhaustion mechanics being involved, really let's you throw our use anything around you as a weapon. Then the Tavern Brawler feat adding more damage to throws and unarmed attacks bring it all together where I can just go full monk for the rest of my build. The character so far has been a blast to play
@DerKaetzer
@DerKaetzer Жыл бұрын
Hey Ginny! You really are getting better all the time at impersonating the dudes! XD Nah, great video, guys, thanks! You are making me regret I played Barbarian single class, but I just wanted to see that hilarious Strength 24 barb mowing down everything.
@bronsonstephens3493
@bronsonstephens3493 Жыл бұрын
The big thing about barbarians is that you get such a limited amount of rages, that when you have a big adventuring day, and MANY encounters, then not taking more levels in barbarian really starts to hurt. The flip side is when you get a single class dip into a full caster and get those ranged cantrips (eldritch blast or toll the dead) you can really get through a bunch of encounters without being the dedicated front line on encounters where you aren’t going to rage (the ones where the wizard/sorc are going full blast in slots)
@The_Crimson_Witch
@The_Crimson_Witch Жыл бұрын
That is only if you're raging every fight. Multiclassing with fighter will allow you to save rages as you don't need to rage to be useful in a fight, so you can save your rages for basically an anime super sayan moment. Or if you're absolutely insane like moi, you find a way to make a barbarian archer with rogue levels. I'm not using most of my class features in most fights, but I'm finding that I really don't need to.
@featherdragon7894
@featherdragon7894 Жыл бұрын
As for the warlock, it’s a bit of an investment but you can grab eldritch smite at lv 5
@DMMG2023
@DMMG2023 Жыл бұрын
Since the Warlock subclass ability comes online at level 1, a dip into the class gives the barbarian some decent versatility. There are a few subclasses that provide some interesting builds such as the self healing tank (fiend&celestial warlock) or subclasses that deal out extra damage (fathomless, hexblade, & undead). Spell slots can be used for out of combat utility, buffs, or for smites if you invest enough levels (though only very particular builds make it worth going that deep into a Warlock multiclass). I'd say the Barb/Warlock multiclass deserves a high B.
@johngillan4475
@johngillan4475 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting thank you for your video
@WolfCry791
@WolfCry791 Жыл бұрын
Undead Warlock/Totem Barbarian could be great too. Add necromantic damage onto your attacks
@thesnep4757
@thesnep4757 Жыл бұрын
How does that apply exactly? The Zealot barbarian adds radiant damage to their attacks, I wonder if the Undead feature there would allow you to add radiant as well as necrotic damage.
@Peter_Cordes
@Peter_Cordes Жыл бұрын
@@thesnep4757 Yes, you could also add radiant. (Or more necrotic, if you chose that for your Divine Fury.) > undead warlock 6th: Grave Touched > > In addition, once during each of your turns, when you hit a creature with an attack roll and roll damage against the creature, you can replace the damage type with necrotic damage. While you are using your Form of Dread, you can roll one additional damage die when determining the necrotic damage the target takes. So you could replace the slashing damage from your greataxe with necrotic, and roll an extra 1d12. It's similar to a crit for free every turn, for the base weapon damage, making a greataxe (1d12) pull way ahead of a greatsword (2d6) even before you get Brutal Critical.
@chrisg8989
@chrisg8989 Жыл бұрын
Playing a Barbarian Zealot Fighter Rune Knight in my current campaign. Love it!
@fightingfalcon777
@fightingfalcon777 Жыл бұрын
Similar vein: I had an Ancestral Guardian Barbarian/Rune Knight Fighter I played, and it was AMAZING! The power I felt when I played that character was fantastic. In one session, I two-round soloed an Abeloth
@chrisg8989
@chrisg8989 Жыл бұрын
@fightingfalcon777 Yeah man! It's a very strong combination. Super fun to play!
@fightingfalcon777
@fightingfalcon777 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisg8989 hell yeah! Rage + Giant’s Might just allows you to wreck house
@fightingfalcon777
@fightingfalcon777 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisg8989 What was the Level breakdown for your PC?
@chrisg8989
@chrisg8989 Жыл бұрын
@fightingfalcon777 4 Zealot, 16 Rune Knight. I'm currently level 6. But my plan is: 1-3 Barbarian 4-8 Knight (Extra attack) 9 Barbarian (Feat) 10-20 Knight. I'm sure this isn't optimal. But I wanted to get Raging Giants Might right away. Being a large sized Rage monster and Rolling 4D6 every turn on my first attack is very fun!
@oniminikui
@oniminikui Жыл бұрын
Not my idea, but I did see a post about someone making a changeling barbarian/warlock build. Where he played each class as a different persona. I liked the idea that I tried and enjoyed it. I've also done this with a changeling barbarian/wizard. Having your enemies overestimate you are a chef's kiss.
@lunchboxcomiks
@lunchboxcomiks Жыл бұрын
I think Swarm Ranger and Ancestrial Guardian Barbarian is a very thematic combo if your dm allows you to you to re flavor your Cuardian spirit in to your swarm or vice versa.
@yurglepop
@yurglepop Жыл бұрын
Scrubbing through, it made it look like Monty gave BarBEARian a S and Kelly gave it a D, and that shook me to my core. Thankfully, the context made sense.
@chrisg8989
@chrisg8989 Жыл бұрын
16:32 Going Barbarian Zealot 4, Rune Knight 16. I'll delay extra attack by 3 levels but it's totally worth it attacking with 4D6 every turn.
@jackiepilgreen7891
@jackiepilgreen7891 9 ай бұрын
So I worked on some homebrew allowing Barbarians to rage and use other features with strength or dexterity which opened up a lot for my players. That and a few other monk and barbarian changes left me with the equivalent of Goku in my PC's party.
@jorisboonekamp9038
@jorisboonekamp9038 19 күн бұрын
I actually built a Tortle Barbarian Bladesinger and I think it's quite a cool combo. Sure you can't cast or concentrate on spells while raging, but what I like here is the versatility. Both the amount of rages as Bladesong are limited per long rest, so when one is depleted you focus on the other. The Bladesong itself I imagine as a gladiatorial display of martial beauty. You can also get one of the few non-Concentration spells off, rage and then activate Bladesong on your next turn. You're a frontline fighter that tries to get enemies to focus fire you. Don't mind all their opportunity attacks when you run around with 20AC. Also, just the idea of casting Fireball and then running in to finish them off...priceless. If you ever get to Barb3 taking Zealot might be the right pick so you can be resurrected time and again for free, haha
@angelharpe8323
@angelharpe8323 Жыл бұрын
Ok here's my monk barbarian concept(and you guys were really close with your ideas!): Kensei/totem warrior. Kensei lets us turn a weapon into a monk weapon, ideally pick a versatile weapon if you wanna go GWM. You can spend you ki on everything except unarmed strikes while you use totem warrior to get bear at lvl3, any of them at lvl 6 but my preferred is tiger, so I guess my build for now is 4 monk 6 barbarian. I'd probably do 8/12 split in favor of barbarian for HP.
@keeganmbg6999
@keeganmbg6999 Жыл бұрын
No Versatile weapon can be used with GWM as there are no single handed Heavy weapons.
@thesnep4757
@thesnep4757 Жыл бұрын
@@keeganmbg6999 Technically you can still use GWM with a non-heavy weapon, but you lose its main benefit of the -5 to attack to gain a +10 to damage. You would still get the bonus action attack when you get a critical hit, something I constantly keep forgetting I can do...
@Overused_Toothbrush
@Overused_Toothbrush Жыл бұрын
Barbarians go well with STRogues and Fighters, and maybe paladins/rangers, but I can’t think of any other things that pair well without being MAD.
@TheKingRiku
@TheKingRiku Жыл бұрын
4 Barabarian rest of the way paladin is sick. The zealot smiter is fun thematically and strong.
@canis2020
@canis2020 Жыл бұрын
This lack of imagination and midmaxing insistence makes me a sad boi
@Exaltable
@Exaltable Жыл бұрын
@@canis2020 understand that the purpose of this video isn’t to flex their creative muscles and rp chops. They have them and they are setting them aside to mechanically analyze these
@isaacgraff8288
@isaacgraff8288 Жыл бұрын
I am actually playing a Barb/Ranger and I really enjoy it. Path of the Beast, Gloomstalker. When you pop your claws, they count as simple melee weapons. If you pick up Dual Wielder you can use your bonus action to make another attack. So you can pop off a ton of claw attacks.
@JagoTFC
@JagoTFC Жыл бұрын
I had to switch subtitles on at the cleric peace multiclass when you said "raging PEACE"
@WhiteOwl1061
@WhiteOwl1061 Жыл бұрын
The iconic Bardbarian - Fahfard from the Fritz Lieber "Lanhkmar" short stories. You can do Barbarian/Undead Warlock to get the Form of Dread or Fathomless since the summoned tenticle does not require concentration and water breathing. Celestial warlock gives Healing Light (no concentration self heals) and Celestial Resistence's temporary HP.
@F2214_
@F2214_ Жыл бұрын
The fiend with the temp hp, armor of agathys, pact of the blade...
@sauljaffe4268
@sauljaffe4268 Жыл бұрын
The benefit and strength of the Barbarian/Warlock combo comes from the invocations. There are plenty that give you benefits that work while raging. And you can use the spell slots outside combat for a variety of things.
@adamde-mayo1299
@adamde-mayo1299 Жыл бұрын
Just cast armor of agythis before combat, hexblade curse for more damage / fiend for the temp hp after each kill
@LordNerfherder
@LordNerfherder Жыл бұрын
I kinda like it but i just dont see it as very synergistic. Even just hexblades curse can be ok. But it isnt very potent and i hope it isnt done before extra attack and delaying actionsurge or whatever you are speccing sounds frustrating. It isnt bad tho. A critfishing build with a d12 weapon and halforc perhaps.. but there are better ways to do this :( I absolutely love the flavor. Demonic rage. It is close tho but you just dont have any high slots for the agathys before tier 3-4 and well at that point things hits for big dice anyway. Tier 1 play against kobolds and goblins with d4 damage is kinda the peak for it even if you build around it which is a mechanically selfinflictes arrow to the knee. But a funny one.
@adamde-mayo1299
@adamde-mayo1299 Жыл бұрын
@@LordNerfherder you dont need high level slots, even just a 5 level dip gives you an extra +40 temp hp(two castings) dealing extra cold damage when hit and a magical +1 weapon. This is before a subclass that can massivly boost your power/survivabiliy. Or you go main warlock that can enter a rage when in melee Try it out one time, go barb 5/6+ warlock 3 is super fun and powerfull
@aprinnyonbreak1290
@aprinnyonbreak1290 Жыл бұрын
Spell utility like that is nice on the Barbarian. As a class, I find the Barbarian tends to suffer disproportionately in out of combat applications, so having spells to do things is nice.
@SjSigma
@SjSigma Жыл бұрын
The Monk Barbarian combo reminds me of the Pathfinder games where you would muliticlass into Scaled Fist Monk and Oracle with a nature mystery to get double Charisma modifier to AC bonus but sadly no dex bonus that would be insane xD
@GeninApprentice
@GeninApprentice Жыл бұрын
Double dip into Warlock gets you Eldritch Blast, Toll the Dead, Armor of Agathys and Arms of Hadar, plus Agonizing Blast and Eldritch Spear/Devil Sight. It's always nice to have something to throw at the enemy before you can reach them with a sword, and really these should cover most of your needs for a good few levels
@benjaminrheault4998
@benjaminrheault4998 Жыл бұрын
You should check our Treantmonk’s Guardian Build. It takes wizard levels for war Magic’s ability to boost saving throws. Really helps keep the barbarian in the fight
@erdmaennchen105
@erdmaennchen105 Жыл бұрын
The artivicer can work really well as a tank with the armorer subclass, a combo colby from d4 uses a lot
@Infernal_Resonance
@Infernal_Resonance Жыл бұрын
I’ve had so much fun playing a very much home-brewed mix of monk and barbarian with a Yin/Yang theme of calm/rage where rage is more like an “overdrive” where I can hit harder and faster, using wisdom as my attack modifier as in “using ancient fighting knowledge” to attack. I’m also a mix of an earth and fire Genasi and every-time I enter “overdrive” mode, fire jets out of my shoulders and calves- it is so cool and fun to play. Just shows that there definitely needs to be some kind of rage-themed monk subclass or something along those lines.
@snarkback
@snarkback Жыл бұрын
If you go fathomless warlock 1 you can get the tentacle for extra damage as a bonus action, that reduces movement, making you able to kite. Additionally, you gain a swim speed of forty feet and can breathe water. At level two you get the invocations which get you things mentioned below like armor spells before combat, and devil's sight.
@wesleygoerzen-sheard5706
@wesleygoerzen-sheard5706 Жыл бұрын
Ancestral guardian barbarian, phantom rogue is a theme that goes together well
@Dukayn66
@Dukayn66 Жыл бұрын
Just finished a campaign using this combo and yeah, it was a lot of fun
@patrickcardamone1249
@patrickcardamone1249 Жыл бұрын
Besides being a lot of fun thematically, Ancestral Guardian is also really a whole different beast when it comes to multiclass potential, because its actually entirely viable to do a Ranged, Dex-Based Barbarian with it, which pairs very well with a wide variety of ranged-focused as well as pet-having multiclass options.
@matttyne9883
@matttyne9883 Жыл бұрын
Armor of Agathys with the warlock could be good with a raging barbarian
@oielvert
@oielvert Жыл бұрын
Danger Sense also combines really nicely with Evasion. I'd say Bear Totem Barbarian combined with any type of Rogue lets you double down on the tanking on a whole new level. The Revenant Double-Bladed Scimitar gives you even further tanking and DPSing without investing too heavily on feats.
@waynemarshall1476
@waynemarshall1476 Жыл бұрын
I had a half orc bard-barian, and she had some (homebrewed) weapons. They were shrieking axes. They were based on a kind of armor that polish Calvary used to have, that had holes drilled into them, and as they rode horses in a charge, the wind going through the armor would act like pipes, and they sounded, basically like Nazgul. So, my character had axes, that when being swung, would shriek, or sound like they were screaming. And the tone made depends on how fast you swung them. She was trained to use them for performance, like spinning poi, where she could make music with the axes, and when using them in combat also added an intimidation effect. Her attacks could be considered using a musical instrument, so she could use them for certain spells. Or spell like abilities. I also had a homebrewed subclass, that was like a skald or dirge singer, which was similar to a barbarian version of the Swashbuckler, or a Hexblade, that could use charisma for attacks, and use performance in combat for intimidation of enemies and inspiration for allies. Which I think the game is seriously missing. There are a lot of ways that music and combat could be combined. Even a monk could have a performance based subclass like a dancer that also fights. From a whilring dervish to a capoeira martial artist, there are many untapped options. Would love to hear your thoughts on the concept.
@karasutenka
@karasutenka Жыл бұрын
There's actually a great play that you can combine the Artificer and Barbarian. Specifically, you pull out the Artillerist. The Arcane Cannon does not require spellcasting to function, and you can use it to give you and your team a solid buffer of temp hp. Not to mention that you can easily prioritize spells that don't require concentration, like longstrider to make your barbarian faster.
@benrichardson1031
@benrichardson1031 Жыл бұрын
Play a Tortle, go Beast Barbarian and Artillerist Artificer, attach the cannon to your shell, and now you're the pokemon Blastoise. At Barb 5/Art 3 and you attack 3 times and can shoot a distant enemy with Hydro Pump or hit in a cone with Scald. It's a beautiful thing that I am still waiting to play. 😁
@loganmcgee18
@loganmcgee18 Жыл бұрын
I played a Minotaur Barbarian who thought himself an Artificer. Raging each time his party pointed out him failing to address a problem using his mind
@wizardswine
@wizardswine Жыл бұрын
One thing I find is pretty interesting on baladin and I suppose cleric/barb is taking berzerker (hopefully with some homebrew so it's not so bad). But you can use action channel divinity and still attack with your bonus action to avoid dropping out of rage. It also allows for better action economy for the action channel divinities, since you're not missing out on damage. ALSO you can smite, which is incredibly good, not to mention reckless attack all at the same time.
@justinbrown5384
@justinbrown5384 Жыл бұрын
A one level dip into Monk is A-tier in terms on fun, and also works well after your first turn. Now you're given a bonus action unarmed attack. Also dipping fighter to get the unarmed fighting style makes it amazingly fun. Try it out.
@biggestfig1928
@biggestfig1928 Жыл бұрын
I play a very fun phantom rogue/ ancestral guardian barb who is based on thorfinn from Vinland saga. Very underrated!
@GoodOldGamer
@GoodOldGamer Жыл бұрын
A drunken master monk benefits from barbarian for its unarmored defense and the bear totem. So three levels barbarian, rest monk. It's mostly flavor for the occasional rage, playing into being a drunk. And extra defense.
@TigerKirby215
@TigerKirby215 Жыл бұрын
So I heard "Peace Domain Barbarian"... thanks for the character idea guys. This is something that I've been thinking about for awhile.
@Aldaking444
@Aldaking444 Жыл бұрын
A beast barbarian/monk build works if you (while having no martial weapons or armor) take the attack action, make two beast claw attacks, then a single unarmed strike, then another unarmed strike as a bonus action. Or you could flurry of blows and make three beast claw attacks. Going 5 levels of monk and 3 of beast barbarian gives you 4-5 attacks a round.
@neurotypicaljotchua8726
@neurotypicaljotchua8726 Жыл бұрын
Barbartifcier is C for can work if you were willing to
@voicetest6019
@voicetest6019 Жыл бұрын
Friend is playing a barbarian monk. They're having a decent time in the campaign, primary issue is that they don't get that second attack until level 8 and they're very attribute dependent so they're feeling a bit limited in combat.
@Peter_Cordes
@Peter_Cordes Жыл бұрын
This is why you should usually go to level 5 in one class to get Extra Attack before multiclassing, for most multi-class builds. Otherwise you get left behind when the party hits level 5. Being late to the party with Extra Attack for more than one level is either bad planning or a tradeoff where you'd better have gotten something really good in exchange, hopefully long term not just being OP in those early levels. (e.g. if you choose your starting class for saving throw proficiencies, but don't want to go past 3 in it, then yeah you have a rough 3 levels in exchange for a somewhat more optimal build later if you didn't switch after 1 or 2 levels in your starting class, to come back later after you get Extra Attack from the class you plan to get to 5.) But in this case, would you want Str+Con save proficiency vs. Str+Dex? I guess it depends how many poison monsters your DM uses, but Dex saves are really common. Although monk evasion gives you half damage all the time, it's no damage if you pass on saves for half, so the absolute damage reduction is still half the AoEs damage whether you have evasion or not. e.g. on a 30 hp fireball, making the save leaves you 15 hp higher than not making the save, whether or not you have evasion. Proficiency + advantage from Danger Sense is good for reliably making saves. And many con saves are against poison, but monks are immune to poison at 10th level, so con save proficiency is significantly weaker. So I'd have started Monk, then dipped at most 1 level of barbarian for rage after monk 1 or 2, * then continued to monk 5 * then get to barbarian 3 if that's where you're aiming to stop * then continue with monk. But at least as a monk they can make an unarmed strike (or two with Ki for Flurry of Blows), so it's still 2 attacks.
@fendelphi
@fendelphi Жыл бұрын
@@TheLegendaryLegacy The bonus attack is an Unarmed attack. If you are wielding anything that is not a Monk weapon, armor, or a shield, you loses your Martial Arts benefits. Meaning your Unarmed attacks become a 1+strength+other modifier(like rage).
@fendelphi
@fendelphi Жыл бұрын
@@TheLegendaryLegacy You do not get Ki until 2nd level in Monk(for Dedicated Weapon). You do not get Kensei until 3rd level in Monk. Similarly, you do not get your Barbarian subclass until level 3. Regardless, your unarmed extra attacks are still unarmed attacks(either from bonus action Martial Arts or Flurry of Blows). Not claw attacks. Because your claw attacks counts as weapons. Which means at level 5, you are probably looking at a BeastBarb3/Monk2. Sure, it is possible to 2 claw attacks(d6) off, and then a bonus attack(martial d4) or Flurry(2 attacks at d4). But that is still lower damage than a Barb5 with Polearm Master and a Glaive, or a Barb5 with GWM. And it relies on using your bonus action to keep up, which means on turn 1(rage), you will be a fair bit behind. Similarly, to use Flurry, you need Ki, and with only 2-3 points, they are gone very fast. The Barb/Monk is MAD, so you will have a weaker 1-3 level. Similarly, you do not get a true powerspike at 4th level, if you multiclass at this point. You could wait until level 5 to multiclass(still MAD for 5 levels though), to get your Extra Attacks "on time", but then it is your level 6 that is a lot weaker, as a regular Barb will get their second path feature here(in this case, counting your claws as magical, among other things) and an additional use of Rage per long rest. In addition to this, the MAD barb will generally have lower AC(15) compared to a medium armored Barb(16), as well as lower HP. Thematically, it is a fun combo. But mechanically, there are so many things that do not mesh very well. You end up being a melee character with somewhat poor AC, minimal utility and only "ok" damage output. The Barb Monk does not scale well either, because items you get are typically not to your benefit or as powerful. Boosting your unarmed or natural weapon damage is possible, but has far less potential. Similarly, because you rely on both Rage and Ki, you want a decent amount of levels of both classes to have enough resources for tier 2+ campaigns. If you want to go "Nova" with a beast barb, the Fighter is a much better multiclass than Monk. You avoid going MAD. You only need a 2 level dip for Nova, and you get a fighting style and Second Wind. If you then go for Fighter3, you can pick Champion, Battlemaster or Echo Knight for more options. The BeastBarb/Monk is good for brawling and grappling. That is about it.
@fendelphi
@fendelphi Жыл бұрын
@@TheLegendaryLegacy What Barb AC? Due to MAD you might have 15 AC at best(if you sacrifice strength), until you get the Kensei stuff(which, at its earliest, is Monk level 3). Remember, this is the Barbarian list. You start as a Barbarian. So if you intend to go Barb3/Kensei6, you take 1 level in Barb and then maybe 5 levels in Monk for extra attack(meaning Kensei at character level 4). Then either 1 more in monk or 2 in Barb. That is still a big delay in various standard power spikes(3 levels with 15 or less AC, for instance, very few rages per long rest). If you use a shield or armor, your unarmed attacks(bonus attacks from Martial Arts/Flurry) becomes only 1 damage +modifers. It is not "solid" when there are so many levels where other characters get a noticable spike in power, while the Barb/Monk just get a small, situational compensation for what they lost, not a unique strength. When your overall damage and survivability is lower than a standard Barb in most of your levels, it is not "solid". It can still be fun and flavourful, but you are not competing with regular barbs or more optimized multiclasses anymore. To use Kensei's Agile Parry(+2 AC), it requires you to make an Unarmed strike as part of your Attack Action. To use both Claw and Unarmed Strike as part of your attack action, you need to be Barb3/Monk5(or the other way around). Which means for the Barb1/Kensei3(earliest AC boost), a Turn 2 attack round is: Unarmed Strike(to enable the AC bonus), followed by 1(Martial Arts) or 2(Flurry) Unarmed Strikes. Same deal for Kensei4(character level 5), although might have improved your Strength or AC with an ASI, to negate most of the MAD effect. At Kensei5(char level 6) you get 2 Unarmed attacks as your Attack action, but you cant use Claws yet, and you still only have 2 Rages per Long rest. So you either suffer from low damage(low damage die/few attacks per turn) or low AC(15 or less), partially due to MAD, for most of your early levels(1-7). Spending a very limited resource to deal extra damage is what it means to "go nova". You get your "Nova" at level 8 when you can get up to 5 attacks off in your turn, by spending Ki and Rage(rage was activated previous round). 5d6+25, or an average of 47.5 damage. That is "ok", but again, comes at the cost of a lower HP pool(compared to pure Barb) and the effect of MAD(either lower strength or AC. If you get +3 damage from strength, your base AC is 14, unless you use your ASI at Monk4 to improve it). A Level 8 Barbarian with a Flametongue Greatsword(which is a typical magic weapon at this level), can make 2 attacks per turn. In this case, they have also spent their level 8 ASI for increased Strength(+4 modifier now). That is 4d6+4d6+12, or an average of 40. If they have GWM(from level 4 ASI/feat), they can potentially get an extra attack as a Bonus Action, which is an extra 4d6+6. A total of 60 average damage. Remember, these attacks are more accurate when compared to the MAD Barb/Monk, due to having 18+ strength rather than 16 or less. If we use the -5 attack roll from GWM for an extra +10 damage to each attack, then it becomes 90 potential average damage. It only cost the Rage activation, of which you have 4, meaning every round, you can have this much potential damage. And Remember, you having, at least, 16 AC by this point(just from a simple Breastplate). The wrestle bodyslam combo is an old favourite of mine, and the reason why I consider Barb/Monk a fun character to try. Specifically in a 1-shot where you get to start at level 10(level 6 Beastbarb high jump and level 4 Monk slow fall). Outside of that, it is just less power and a lot of restrictions, if you try to level it from 1 to 10. I know, because I have done it a few times. You get overall more grapple potential by going Barb/Rogue(Advantage + Expertise makes your Athletics check auto win in most cases).
@masoncash1532
@masoncash1532 Жыл бұрын
It’s worth considering that if you only have a few levels of Barbarian in your build, you only get a few uses of rage per day. The other class’s ability can be very useful for those encounters when you have run out of uses of rage. E.g. monk who can sometimes rage when they run out of ki points, or who can use monk abilities when they run out of rage uses.
@moregenies1
@moregenies1 Жыл бұрын
The exception to wizard is the war wizard. You gain basically a penalty free defensive reaction to make yourself tankier. You get mold earth and shape water for exploration and mending for special situations. Having access to alarm for resting, detect magic for exploration outside combat, find familiar for scouting and communication with distant party members is amazing. Having silvery barbs to support your teammates outside of combat or from the back of the initiative order can make or break a valuable crowd control spell, fog cloud can set up an ambush before you get close enough to rage, and having magic missile for a creature flying overhead that you can't get close enough to merit raging, forcing it to make a save or fall, or burn a legendary resistance on a turn you would otherwise do nothing is again, invaluable. None of these care about your intelligence and with ritual casting they won't even cost you anything half the time
@SuperSorcerer
@SuperSorcerer Жыл бұрын
ב"ה Barbarian 5/ Paladin 2/ College of whispers bard the rest of the way is actually pretty powerfull. If you qualify for bard and barbarian multicass then you also qualify for paladin multiclass, so 2 level dip as a pladin for a barbarian/bard make it really viable.
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