Barrel twist v Bullets, some things to consider

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@neilgoodall1768 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, put across really well. I have been reloading for many years and you never stop learning about the art.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Neil, thanks

@warbirdflyerF4U 2 жыл бұрын

Another great layman's term explain explanation for those out there that don't really understand Twist rates and their effect with different length and weight projectiles keep up the great videos enjoy watching you and Sam

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Matt

@sterlingwilkey2124 2 жыл бұрын

Mark your amazing, iam not the smartest person but the way you explained it I can even understand twist rate better now

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Stirling, Cheers

@Leverguns50 2 жыл бұрын

This is the kind of stuff I really like to hear about, because a lot of people don’t understand it and this will be a quick video I can point them to, to help them understand it, Thank you so much for sharing

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. glad you liked. Cheers

@Nfbotha Жыл бұрын

Your interpretation about your findings and logic makes so much sense. Great informational video! thank You for the content!

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Thanks Man, cheers

@scottnj2503 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant explanation. Relationship of twist and velocity have been a mystery to me. Thank you.

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Cheers

@CaptShocker 2 жыл бұрын

So much to pick up from this. Going to have to watch this a few times and take notes. Appreciate all the lessons. Cheers.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Wayne, thanks

@walt5797 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark and Sam, this tutorial all made a lot of sense and answered a few question for me.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, Cheers

@davidhandyman7571 2 жыл бұрын

More information, logic and understanding in an understandable package. Thank you Mark.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Dave

@Gubson Жыл бұрын

Really interesting. Thinking of Withworth how he came up with his 1:20 twist rate for his bullet and barrell. That at a time when rifled barrells was quite new.

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Cheers

@secrestbruce 2 жыл бұрын

Always enjoy your content. Keep up the great work.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bruce

@LabRatJason 2 жыл бұрын

This topic is perfectly timed for me. This weekend I’ll be testing 230gr A-tips in my 300wm with 1:10 twist. They shot fine at 100 yards, but now we’ll be testing them at a mile. I was worried about the box recommending 1:9 but I was hopeful I could get away with it.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Jason

@GRT1865 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the insight. Nice video as always. Stay safe. Take care. Have fun. 😎

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers gary

@walterluiz4694 2 жыл бұрын

Great lesson. Thanks, cheers my friends.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Walter

@Jerry-Parker 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent information , I always enjoy your videos ! 👍

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jerry, cheers

@markanthonystringfellow3923 2 жыл бұрын

Exceptional Breakdown Mark!!!

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark

@davegrimshaw7318 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Teach,another lesson learned, in layman's terms as well, never been explained as well as this 👍👏🙂

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave, Cheers

@jcarne1015 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark. You just answered a couple of questions that have been bouncing around the back of my mind. I consider myself better educated than the average dummy, but always learn something from your videos.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks J, Cheers

@practicalamerican8152 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the great advice .

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man, Cheers

@tommysaulter9171 2 жыл бұрын

Mark... The more I listen to you explain the science behind LR Shooting, the more I realize I should have paid more attention in Math class in school...!!! Now I’m 2nd guessing my 1:10” barrel for shooting a 300WSM... Thanks for your valuable information...!!!

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Tommy

@stacykenyon5863 2 жыл бұрын

Good info. Had a batch of rounds disintegrate on me a while back. Some tried to tell me I was just shooting the ground and bullets were breaking up, they were definitely breaking up after leaving the barrel, there was a big pop and smoke.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

yep, can happen, cheers

@biggiet1041 2 жыл бұрын

As always...great info. Thanks again

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Biggie, Cheers

@USAACbrat 2 жыл бұрын

We used to see that with 6mm International if the rifling cut through the jacket the core comes out.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@JohnRoberts71 2 жыл бұрын

Great content thanks for sharing, very informative

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

cheers John

@MelvinHunt-iu8tv Ай бұрын

I have a tikka t3x super varmint 223 ( 1 in 8 twist ) 24 " barrel ... I'm putting 5 shots in one hole at 100 meters with Norma bullets ... Great and accurate gun

@markandsamafterwork Ай бұрын

Cheers

@neckstumping 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff again. Cheers

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man

@patdennis3751 8 ай бұрын

Great info. I think another factor In bullets exploding after they leave the bore is friction. The friction, combined with an already hot barrel tends to anneal the already relatively soft, thin copper jacket making it that much more susceptible to stretching and ultimately rupture as the centrifugal force on the heavy core presses outward against it.

@markandsamafterwork 8 ай бұрын

Cheers

@gerrittenberkdeboer7763 2 жыл бұрын

Good explained. Thank you.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@duggydo 2 жыл бұрын

That pop you are talking about was fairly common for the 224 valkyrie. Iraqveteran8888 has a video where they caught it on camera. Thin jacket bullets and super fast twist will definitely do that.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, sure does, Cheers

@nickfranklin1867 2 жыл бұрын

A very interesting video Mark, I don't shoot ELR, I'm just an average gun enthusiast, but the ballistics fascinates me, keep the great videos coming

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nick

@scottrussell6717 2 жыл бұрын

Great information for newbies

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

cheers

@hotchihuahua1546 2 жыл бұрын

With the variety of pistols & rifles I have It comes down to what manufacturers rounds shoot best out of my barrels . The problem I have is two fold . One - getting those same rounds when I run out . Two - (most importantly ) remembering to write down what shoots best in what . 😁 Appreciate all the hard work y’all do in making these videos .

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man, and Lol, Cheers

@jimklemens5018 Жыл бұрын

Have you considered making your own ammunition?

@colinreid7305 2 жыл бұрын

topic was well explained and very interesting even for a person like me who is not a long range shooter.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

thanks Collin, Cheers

@danieldillon6005 2 жыл бұрын

One thing I'm looking forward to trying is 1in3 twist subsonic at 500 yards with 8.6blk

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, Cheers

@USAACbrat 11 ай бұрын

it is good to be included. i shoot targets at 100 yds off a bench at a State of Florida, park range, off a concrete bench. i learned that the 300 whisper was very accurate; compared to other .308 cal. 16" barrel, 1/8 twist, loves 90 gr thru 130 gr bullets, on a good day less than 1 min. about 2100 mv. interestingly looses 200 fps in 100 yds.

@markandsamafterwork 11 ай бұрын

Thanks Man

@robbieatvic Жыл бұрын

Great content thanks for sharing

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Cheers

@joeschuster2837 2 жыл бұрын

thank you well explained

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe

@duanehawks9405 2 жыл бұрын

Great explanation mate!! Gettin that long range, Australian, education. 🤙

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Duane, Cheers

@thomandstacieverroad8417 2 жыл бұрын

I Experienced bullet disintegration with a 110 grain tnt varmint bullet out of a 7 mm rem mag hand loaded quite hot. I was so confused as to why there was a puff of darkness about 3 meters past the end of the barrel every shot and I couldn't seem to ever hit the paper. It was about 15 rounds of me scratching my head before that idea dawned on me and your the first to confirm it . Thanks 👍 I thought I might be nuts.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man, Cheers

@mefirst5427 2 жыл бұрын

In the Hornady book, for 220 Swift, it warns of bullets disintegrating for the 35 grain projectile.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@gc641 2 жыл бұрын

Good one mark

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@fredfleming2455 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, still trying to find time to hone some skills at shorter ranges, but this has provided some excellent info for when i progress into longer stuff.. thanks heaps.. fred

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Fred, thanks

@walterzimmer1352 2 жыл бұрын

Good job

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@longrangeshooterCAisa2aabuser Жыл бұрын

rifling mate rifling but you know your guns I watch your videos liked the one on bullet shape very informative

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Cheers

@nataliedeyton6829 2 жыл бұрын

I have been seeing some 1:5 twist short barrels for the 300 blk now Just for those big heavy projectiles. But I’m sure you are aware of these 😂. Appreciate these videos 👍

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

As explained, cheers

@randomidiot8142 2 жыл бұрын

Probably one of the best videos on the topics I have heard. Have you noticed a correlation between case volume and barrel bore volume when it comes to picking a good barrel length for optimum performance?

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Man, sorry I don't offer more than the videos, Cheers

@stanrothfuss2737 9 ай бұрын

I listen to 98% of KZfaqrs and it's just an echo chamber of people repeating other people's bullshit. A lot of them say they're not getting paid but I hope they are because they're just parrots for whatever is the new thing. This guy is so much more thoughtful, balanced and approaches the subject in a serious manner. I really appreciate his ethics and intelligence. I usually learn something I have never heard anywhere else. I had gotten so sick of watching videos in which I had to stomach the "creators" favorite rock and roll song from his not to distant childhood playing in the background, as I am subjected to selfies of ammo dumps or long range shooting clips that the subject tries to use jargon he seen in his most recent sniper Hollywood movie. Great job to both of you.

@markandsamafterwork 9 ай бұрын

Lol, thank you Stan, glad you like man, Cheers

@irelandsailor Жыл бұрын

Great video. Im thinking of making a .22-250 with a 1:7" twist so I can shoot 90gr.bullets.

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Awesome, Cheers

@chrisgabbert658 2 жыл бұрын

👍 this explains why my rifle isn’t very accurate with a lighter bullets.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@nickwilliams6869 Жыл бұрын

Im new to the twist rate i havent had a rifle sence i was a kid but didnt know about the twist rate

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

Cheers

@neckstumping 2 жыл бұрын

Artillery has used your theory on stability for decades and decades. Youre on the money. Artillery projectiles follow the arc like you say.

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Man, thanks

@lawrencejones5640 2 жыл бұрын

The pop from the 22-250 is the only round I've come across that's made me flinch

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Lol, cheers

@lawrencejones5640 2 жыл бұрын

@@markandsamafterwork mind you, only when others are shooting it

@USAACbrat 11 ай бұрын

I am a 300 BO shooter,

@markandsamafterwork 11 ай бұрын

Cheers

@Dr._Spamy 7 ай бұрын

Would be curious to see if a projectile really tends to align with the line of trajectory on lower twist rates, or if it just starts to tumble easier. On the other hand key holing can't be good either. The only thing that can't hurt is a more flat trajectory.

@markandsamafterwork 7 ай бұрын

Cheers

@imeprezime1285 5 ай бұрын

There's no key-holling with appropriate twist and well made symmetrical bullet

@Allen338LM 2 жыл бұрын

What's crazy looking is the 8.6 blackout there barrels are 1in3 or 1 in4 twist looking down barrel it looks like screw flutes

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Lol, Cheers

@kuronyan3006Ackley 2 жыл бұрын

👍💡🎵🎶

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers

@moshkid16 11 ай бұрын

Will a slower twist rate will reduce spin drift over a long distance?

@markandsamafterwork 11 ай бұрын

Yes but spin drift is not of any concern

@katrinadarling3271 5 ай бұрын

I would think that the faster the barrel spins a bullet, the higher the skin temperature the bullet would have when it exited the barrel. Do you have any idea how hot the bullet gets? I know metals lose strength as they get hotter. If the bullet skin temperature approaches the melting point, it might explain why the bullet seems to disappear. The remaining bullet mass may fly off in some random direction.

@markandsamafterwork 5 ай бұрын

Cheers

@Allen338LM 2 жыл бұрын

What's your thoughts on gain twist? If I missed it I apologise but I don't know if you said about it and would like your thoughts on it

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

We have a video on that

@Pilottoproperties Жыл бұрын

When I put my .22-250 with a 1-14 twist into the Berger bullet stability calculator .242 bc 50 gr. I can’t seem to get any stability to work without getting a different twist rate. Running at 3,700 fps. Can I do anything besides new barrel? Gun is a very nice Thumbhole Remington 700 with fluted barrel. I’d prefer not to replace a newer barrel but per the calculator I appears nothing is truly stable in the firearm. Any thoughts?

@markandsamafterwork Жыл бұрын

That twist is set up for off the shelf ammo, so maybe try to shoot some bullets and see, 50 and 60grn bullets should be fine, Cheers

@Pilottoproperties Жыл бұрын

@@markandsamafterwork thank you!!

@kippamip 2 жыл бұрын

Just to prove marks point on the projectile not loosing RPM at distance, here's a fun vid to kind of prove that. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i915o9lqma20pGg.html

@markandsamafterwork 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers