That's what I was thinking, either Barry is being whamied somehow, or Thawne has messed the timeline or Thawne is impersonating Barry like he did in the comics that one time...

@@OGSeahorse not Zoom and thawne had there memory were fine

theres leaked pics of grant in a reverse flash suit - could be thawn looking like barry !

I mean tbh didn't he make himself look like Barry in the comics. I want to say he did it because he wanted to be just like the flash. If I'm not mistaken I'm pretty sure it was wally who met him at the time

@@james10o1 exactly what I was thinking, man. No way Barry would go insane outta nowhere.

It only has happened for a couple of hours and they've been through a lot so they might not consider that yet.

Maybe in the next episode, they would. But, I doubt that's what happened. This is probably necessary for Barry's character development.

Seeing as they’re saying things like “you read his eulogy at his funeral” and how it seems like it was only until recently that he started acting like Joe was always around, i think Barry went through some sort of grieving process for those six months before the show started Somehow I dont know how

exactly!!!

I so much agree with you man, but the thing is, they are already suspecting Barry to be losing his mind which mean they won't consider any timeline disruption due to time travel

No it's not thawne it's red death

Thawne taking over Barry’s body could be red death

Yes you might be right because there were a leak photo on the set of the flash where Barry wear a yellow costume such as that of the reverse flash!

nope its thwane

Could it bee just thawns energy is inside barry kinda like how he was taking over wells 🤔? Or am I just way off track I mean at the end of that one episode they purged the negative speed force from him and than said he will be back could he be possessing barry and when he takes over the flash loses consciousness

black lightning ended in May bro

It hasn't been a year

Not an year but yeah its nice to see him come back

I miss Black lightning

Is there gonna be no more seasons?

Sheeeeeeeeeh

Omg this is so genius!

So, Thawne drove Barry crazy with this!

Well until we know for sure we’ll have to wait and see the next two episodes.

wait a sec i just rewatched the episode it would my sense because barry never use the speed mirrage and if iam right thawne is the only one nown how to use it correct me if iam wrong

now thats a good theory

So thawne is literally orochimaru

This is literally the perfect theory I hope this blows up when it actually happens bro

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@@Royalzzr dont be posting that cancer here

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I wonder why he's in Central City though. 🤔

But thrawn’s lightning is red not yellow

Except the fact that if thawne uses his speed his lightning is red

@@jah2032 ah that's were Damian dark comes in and uses a spell to to make his costume and lighting the same as Barry's

@@juliansummers5983 Damian Darkh permanently died in Legends when he destroyed his own soul after congratulating Nora and Ray on their relationship.

But it's not explaining why Barry for example don't remember Joe's death.

i think it’s thawne

@@antoine828 same

@@antoine828 It makes sense for Reverse to be back, but not creating the Armagedon. It can be Armagedon, but as we enter the Nora Arc, we learnacing that Zoom, Red Death and the other guy are the cruelest vilains so far. If Flash didn't win againgst Zoom, Zoom would be the most cruel of all. History made him the second, wile the other guy comes 3rd. We are left with Reverse, who was hurt by being too slow. We get to see Flash fighting aginst his self yet again. We will have two Barry Allens as the Flash (like an actual dobleganger or mirrage, the bad Flash), finally we get to see then an even faster Reverse as the Red Death and also Zoom in his current form, seeking revenge. Yet an epic scenario, like the Flash & Reverse vs Godspeed.

@@tsukushiuzuchicha553 cruelist was savitar and they need bring him back

@@ericx6969 Maybe, but Zoom still became more cruel. We can say Savitar is number 3 but not 2, 2 is clearly Zoom. So it is better to say that Reverse could also be below Savitar, but he isn't, so that brings Zoom to number 2. We get Savitar as the bad Flash. Savitar is bad Flash in season 8, Zoom is that thing and Revrse will come as the most cruel yet. Red Death will come to kill Iris and then we see the darkest yet side of our good guy Flash. There you have the plot.

You think it's Thawne too right

I think Thawne is posing as the flash to make everyone one lose faith in the flash, cause remember he can take anyones face, and watch when the suit turns yellow.

Ya the is perfect revenge for thawne after what happened last time

Oh. My. God. And don’t forget there is a still photo of Grant in the Reverse Flash suit. Why didn’t I think of that? So the loft and attacking the citizens was Thawne disguised as Barry. That’s why he doesn’t remember.

Thawne is the worst. I heard Damien Darhk is coming back this season, he better redeem himself and help Flash finish Thawne once and for all.

i like that they’re getting back to the season 1 & 2 strategy of creating enough INTRIGUE each episode to draw you back to the show for the next, rather than season 3,4 and so on’s strategy of just having stuff HAPPEN and just HOPING you tune it. like in season 1, every single episode and the after-episode scene was intriguing, from the very first episode of discovering the guy in a wheelchair has a secret door in star labs and can walk. n in its own way it had a mystery element on TOP of it being a superhero show which was unique in its own way. and in my opinion, the intrigue factor is what these superhero shows NEED to be good and stay afloat. arrows intrigue came from its flashbacks and how the past always came back to haunt oliver, the flashes from these mysteries, wandavision, etc. and in order to keep intrigue, you have to push the plot forward at least SOMEWHAT in every episode. which is why it’s first season was so successful, every episode we were learning something new about SOMEONE or SOMETHING, which would leave us with some answered questions, as well as some new ones. no episode felt like filler. compare that to seasons after, where we kept getting MORE and MORE episodes where nothing that happened would impact the overall plot in a meaningful way, or leave us with questions that need to be answered, i.e. NO INTRIGUE, no reason for us to WANT to come back and watch the next episode, no incentive to even CARE whatsoever. and that’s essentially what seasons 3-7 were. so i’m glad that they’re getting back to formula, and i’m also glad that they’re finally treating barry like the MAIN CHARACTER of his own tv show again

Yeah but it’s a crossover so wait till after to see how the flash is really like

@@Hawkthefox for me this is Season 7.5 cause after Armageddon crossover next ep comes at March 2022. For me thats when the real Season 8 happens

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Why does everyone ignore 6x07.😔 literally one of the best episodes of flash ever.

Indeed

This has thawne written all over it

@@unicorn2563 Or it's despero🤔

@@wrestlespider5831 Nah. @Unicorn 25 is right. It’s definitely Thawne. It’s got his name written all over this shit. Sometimes I wish Green Arrow was still there. Barry needs him. Luckily, there’s one more Green Arrow out there.

@@wrestlespider5831 thawne could be altering the timeline which might be why he doesn’t remember joe dying, or him doing all that stuff to the city

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It's early days yet. They might go back to their old, boring ways of doing things and start pushing out crappy episodes.

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Its pg 13 show

@@theflashdcuniverse in just season 1 if this same show a main character shot himself commiting suicide, they are not that limited

seeing your favorite superhero try to hurt the people he protected is disturbing. like if your dad started beating you and your mom. pretty disturbing if you aren't expecting him to do that

@@thiccandridicc Isn't... that the whole point of the scene? hahaha

Underrated comment

Lmao

😂

Yeah that movie is bad

I’m confused lol

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FR

Nope me to superman done went evil it’s a shame the can’t use Batman in this and for the life of me I can’t understand why they have superman batwomen but they can’t use Batman someone please explain

@@arsenalnexus6981 CW doesn't have the rights to use Batman, they can mention him but they can't use it on screen.

@@shayllow8833 why not? If they have the rights for superman who like Batman has films I don’t get why they can’t get the rights for batman

@@arsenalnexus6981 That's a good question but i do not have the answer to it haha. That's just how it is, unless they can make a deal with Warner Bros to make a Batman tv show or just make him appear. But... It doesn't look like WB wants to give them that, since i can imagine that CW tried to make it happen before.

@@shayllow8833 ain’t that a shame. What’s the theme tune they have in the background

Also both seasons of his show were about Injustice done to him, his family, his city. So it would be like going to Dominic Toretto and saying my family needs help

@@InfiniteGamingOffical FAMILY

Did someone say...... family?!

It is actually and damn it's good

@@mangonite7426 agreed the music in these shows is top notch as always but this is so good

On god that shit sounds fire

Agreed!

not even close

YESSS BROOO u explained it perfectly this entire ep i was getting this vibe from elseworlds and bloodwork takin over barry from the speed force. It doesn’t make any sense what’s going on rn and it has to be thawne or hes being whammied by someone

Please stop spamming this comment

When I was done watching the first episode of this season I thought if Joe was died cause we usually see him more often or gets mentioned where he is

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Hopefully this time will be a creative route.

There was actually a version of the injustice storyline where it was flash that went evil.

@Isaac M NYCTransit&vlog how the hell would I know. The writers of this show are pretty well known for butchering legit Flash storylines all the time. All I know is if it's reverse flash like everyone seems to think I'm going to be pissed. The writers use that character as a crutch and it's become horribly predictable, and very boring 😴.

@Chiefs Life what?

@Chiefs Life do you know how vague that comment is? So much happens in the comic books. 😳 even just in reference to my earlier comments you have a pretty wide variety of things you could mean. So try being more specific please.

@Chiefs Life ah OK. They have still butchered other storylines and could be less predictable than setting up their seasons oh everything seems OK, here's one or two generic villains, one random major villain, the big bad of the season from the flash big bad comic line up, and secret twist! Reverse flash is trying to kill Barry! But ohhhh wait... that's not a surprise or a twist at this point. Literally everyone expects it. Boring. Pick a new setup.

the hall of justice was a old star labs facility. Everything else is fucked up

They rest is coming this is just episode 2

COVID and scheduling

@@hoodiek6802 none of the league is actually coming...sara, clark, kara and jonn arent gonna be there...and its not the same batwoman that was apart of the league...everyone else are just heros

@@theflashdcuniverse Ik

They probably did a code off-screen for a situation like this

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Honestly, especially after the whole Flashpoint ordeal, you think they'd at least take into consideration that he might be right when he says there's something wrong

But earlier Kristen Kramer had a conversation with Barry saying "If Joe was here" and Barry wasn't surprised. That means he knew Joe was dead all along until somehow he didn't

This comment is confusing on sooo many different levels

its garbage

“Photography “ is CRAZY lol cinematography* my brother

Then why isn't half of the sits full? Lol

Barry calls him

Not canceled. It ended there's a difference.

@@theflashdcuniverse yup. Idk why so many people think that BL & Supergirl got cancelled when they ended according to the actors' and writers' decisions

@@theflashdcuniverse BL was cut short they had to hastily write a finale. It was for sure cancelled.

But wasn't savitar erased from the timeline at the end of season 3? Besides the one true speedster fitting to mess with timelines is reverse flash

Crisis caused all the other earths to be destroyed though, so I thought this was the last one?

@@cranjismcbasketball2565 Stargirl is on a separate Earth still, if I recall correctly.