Barry Windham - Why Vince Gave Up on The New BlackJacks

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4 ай бұрын

Barry Windham discusses why The New Blackjacks quickly disappeared from the World Wrestling Federation. Stream New Shoot Interviews 📺 TitleMatchNetwork.com
WWE Hall of Famer Barry Windham talks about how Vince McMahon changed his character from The Stalker to The New Blackjacks. Barry's father Blackjack Mulligan was part of the original team with Blackjack Lanza.
This incarnation would feature Barry and the former Justin Hawk Bradshaw. Find out why Windham believes Vince pulled the plug on the team after having big plans initially.
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@TitleMatchWrestling 4 ай бұрын

Big shout out to the legends Barry Windham & Magnum TA Stream the Full Shoot Interview (2002): ➡titlematchnetwork.com/wrestling-shoot-interviews-results/

@GameTime-yj6qv 4 ай бұрын

I know this is like a 20 year old interview but I have been enjoying this shoot interview with Barry

@M-7412 4 ай бұрын

I could listen to Barry for hours. Great story teller.

@user-rz3gv2gp9y 4 ай бұрын

Barry Windham was the best back in the day just miss his style so much!

@ivanthecheese9119 4 ай бұрын

Barry , one of the greatest talents in pro wrestling

@reynaldoreyes9927 3 ай бұрын

Barry Windham was WWE producer in 2007 - 2008 Released by WWE by the end of 2008.

@joncrack187 4 ай бұрын

From being Blackjack Mulligan Jr to Blackjack Windham Life comes at you fast

@brucesturton8521 4 ай бұрын

That was one tag team, i was hoping would have made a go of it. I liked the original black Jack's.

@FormulaJRay 4 ай бұрын

Imagine being 240 pounds, but you're still the "little Blackjack".

@indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927 2 ай бұрын

every 6’4 240 lbs man feels like a monster until a 6’5 290 lber shows up.

@danielleyton596 4 ай бұрын

Vince McMahon would've been **way** smarter to just let Barry be Barry. Great storyteller if he's being himself.

@josereyes1148 3 ай бұрын

But Vince didn't create Barry so we can't have that happen.

@jasonbarham5634 3 ай бұрын

Agreed! I feel themsame about Terry Taylor. He was a great talent in AWA and UWF. Putting that Red Rooster gimmick on him ruined his wrestling career 😊

@BiscoWho 2 ай бұрын

@@josereyes1148 This is the same point I was going to make upon reading this initial comment just now. If Vince McMahon couldn't tell himself that he had a huge hand in creating a character, then you had ZERO CHANCE of getting over in the fed

@josereyes1148 2 ай бұрын

@@BiscoWho he ruined wrestling as much as he made it. Cheers to a new era in wrestling.

@AndyD4730 4 ай бұрын

The matches with Bradshaw and Tony Anthony were at the August 19th 1996 Raw taping. That means management had the New Blackjacks idea 6 whole months before they used it. Why such a long wait? That was Windham's first night working for them on this run too, so it would mean that The Stalker gimmick was always going to be temporary and replaced by New Blackjack Barry Windham.

@johnnyskinwalker4095 4 ай бұрын

Since they didn't have their looks right away maybe they could have created a storyline so that Bradshaw and Barry team up. Give them a few matches between the two that ends in a draw. Then at some point in a solo feud, Bradshaw would be attacked and Windham would come save him. Then he would propose to go after the guys that attacked him. Then Bradshaw would say in honor of your dad, we should be the Black Jacks. But I liked when eventually Windham turned on him and joined the NWA group with Cornette.

@jdriguez00 4 ай бұрын

My favorite barry era is during his lone wolf time,end of 92-93

@SlimmArmstrong 4 ай бұрын

Same!!! He was definitely at his absolute best at that moment in time. Underrated and under-appreciated as him FINALLY being the NWA Heavyweight Champion.

@jdriguez00 4 ай бұрын

@@SlimmArmstrong his theme song was bad ass

@danpoutsma1351 4 ай бұрын

I also enjoyed his 1993 run with the NWA championship, even if WCW treated it as a secondary belt by then.

@gregclark3268 4 ай бұрын

IN 92 he had great matches with Steve Austin for the TV Title

@jdriguez00 3 ай бұрын

@@gregclark3268 yea the matches where good

@jonathanturbide2232 4 ай бұрын

The story of them having to dye their hair black late on a Saturday night is great, this shoot is really fun to listen to 😂. Crazy to think that there's only 5 years between Barry's debut as a Blackjack and this interview, it's like they are two entirely different guys.

@josereyes1148 3 ай бұрын

Isn't it weird? In 2002, the black jacks probably felt old and awhile ago. But here we are now and it's been 27 years.

@tritchie6272 4 ай бұрын

When Barry Windham is the small one, its a strange world.

@indiasupportstrumpwwg1wga927 2 ай бұрын

he’s just given up an inch and 40-50 lbs.

@reynaldoreyes9927 3 ай бұрын

Barry Windham gets The New BlackJacks booked in All Japan Pro Wrestling " Real World Tag League 1997 " 11/15/1997- 12/5/1997. 12/26/1997 ( WWF House Shows ) Chicago ( Rosemont), Illinois: Rosemont Horizon: New Age Outlaws ( Road Dog & Billy Gunn -WWF World Tag Team Champions ) defeated The New BlackJacks ( Barry Windham & Justin ( John ) Bradshaw (WWF return match since AJPW tour )

@josereyes1148 3 ай бұрын

It's weird hearing an interview from so long ago describe something from longer ago. What I mean is that this interview was from 2002 and the blackjacks were done in 1997. So this was only 5 years after but probably felt like a long time ago. Now this interview is 22 years later and 27 years since the blackjacks were a thing. It just makes time feel crazy. I can't explain it.

@buckster2575 4 ай бұрын

I liked the new blackjacks shame it didn't work.

@LBlucher13 4 ай бұрын

That's amazing. I don't recall the New Blackjacks at all, but those were two excellent choices to fill those shoes. Would have loved to see what Barry & Bradshaw could have done with that given the proper circumstances.

@gregorylevi1826 4 ай бұрын

I remember them, I didn't think it was bad.

@youtubin222 3 ай бұрын

as a kid, i'm sure anyone who watched new blackjacks were bored by them. i know i was. i still bought their action figures, but jakks figured were awesome, i bought all of them. the monster ring was sweet too lol

@txmetalhead82xk 3 ай бұрын

Barry, the computer guy! Awesome! Think all of us young Texans were huge fans of computers. Wondered what games he played?

@WilliamSmith-zg6vp 3 ай бұрын

I kinds liked the Widowmaker gimmick. I don't think they went far enough with that.

@jamesgroover4643 3 ай бұрын

Ditto. I think Barry had some serious family stuff going on at that time and had to split. To me, Barry was as good as anyone I've ever seen wrestle. Had it been important to him, he would have been one of the best ever. It just wasn't end all be all for him. He wanted to make an excellent living and have fun.

@wa2k99 4 ай бұрын

I loved the new blackJacks

@PaulShaw-ex7ri 4 ай бұрын

Highest elevation in West Virginia 3800 ft, where I'm from that's a hole😂

@joshnewman3152 4 ай бұрын

Haha I about lost it when he said 15,000

@needsaride15126 4 ай бұрын

Barry looks so good , healthy and interactive in this interview.

@briannettles669 4 ай бұрын

I never liked the idea of the New Blackjacks. It was a retro tag team from a different era and it lacked originality. The "New" any retread tag team does not work. I would have preferred Barry Windham to tag up with Bradshaw under a new tag team name and an original gimmick and create their own identity.

@alwaysamysteryyes2021 3 ай бұрын

C'mon, the New Rockers and New Foundation were gold!! 😁

@ChineseSausage 3 ай бұрын

The New Blackjacks were much better than the New Midnight Express, that's for sure!

@Filmation77 3 ай бұрын

The new blackjacks should have been BiKERS

@JosephMiller-hu7bq 2 ай бұрын

Barry had the talent size to be the top guys in the business and if he had real wanted it , I think he could've been.

@magmag1059 4 ай бұрын

I think there’s such a thing as OVER-gimmicking someone. Sometimes Vince would go TOO far/cartoonish with gimmicks, and it would end up being a detriment, as far as guys getting over. The New Blackjacks were a flop. But in my mind, I can imagine Barry Windham & John Layfield AS THEMSELVES, doing really well as a tag team. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@johnnyskinwalker4095 4 ай бұрын

Agreed 100%. It would have worked so well too! I could have seen them do damage. The brawler and the wrestler.

@bathory5026 3 ай бұрын

Should have teamed him up with Austin and called it The Tex Express

@reynaldoreyes9927 3 ай бұрын

Monday, 8/19/1996 ( WWF ) Wheeling, West Virginia: Wheeling Civic Center ( WWF RAW TV Taping ) Dark Match Not Shown on TV: Barry Windham defeated Justin ( John ) Bradshaw; then Night Stalker Barry Windham defeated TL Hopper ( Dirty White Boy Tony Anthony ) in 3 minutes ; 28 seconds.Barry Windham WWF Agent is Jay Strongbow

@mattgravett4685 4 ай бұрын

I am surprised Vince gave up on it considering that he pushed the big guys a lot

@JayReaction530 4 ай бұрын

I wonder what his dad thought

@gregorylevi1826 4 ай бұрын

Good question

@reynaldoreyes9927 3 ай бұрын

Barry Windham ( Babyface Wrestler) 3rd WWF Stint 8/19 /1996-12/17/1996 as Babyface 12/18/1996-2/16 /1997 Barry Windham kept off WWF wrestling shows .2/17/1997 Debut as The New The BlackJacks 2/17/1997-5/16/1998, Barry Windham quits WWF no matches 5/17/1998- 11/29/1998. WCW Return 11/30/1998- 9/27/1999 ( Barry Windham Last Ever Stint in WCW ). Barry Windham returns to WWE ( formerly WWF ) Monday, 3/10/2008 ( WWE RAW Episode # 772 ) Milwaukee, Wisconsin: Bradley Center: Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo ( 1 time only WWE Return Match ) battled The Iron Sheik & Nicolia Volkoff to a No Contest.

@chuckjackson8748 2 ай бұрын

I was always a Windham fan but I hated the New Blackjacks. That gimmick was dated. But a cowboy gimmick together would have been better than Smoking Gunns

@79chevy901 4 ай бұрын

I don’t even remember the blackjacks!

@DanlowMusic 4 ай бұрын

They were around in the Savio Vega group, Crush DOA, and Nation of Domination days.

@wa2k99 4 ай бұрын

That's unfortunate

@79chevy901 4 ай бұрын

@@DanlowMusicOkay.

@gregorylevi1826 4 ай бұрын

I remember The Blackjacks. Barry wasn't lying he was small compared to Bradshaw.

@JayReaction530 4 ай бұрын

Wasn't tony anthony TL Hooper back then

@Trill_4_Life 3 ай бұрын

Yes

@reynaldoreyes9927 3 ай бұрын

Barry Windham a Babyface is kept off WWF wrestling shows 12/18/1996-2/15/1997, 2/16/1997 PPV Vince McMahon informs Barry Windham & John Bradshaw there The New BlackJacks ( go dyed Black hair & Barry Windham is a heel now) , RAW 2/17/1997 Debut of New The BlackJacks

@reynaldoreyes9927 3 ай бұрын

Sunday, 2/16/1997 ( WWF In Your House # 13- Final Four PPV From Chattanooga, TN: UTC Arena : Vince McMahon tells them, there The New BlackJacks, so they have to dyed their hairs Black this Night. they didn't wrestle on PPV. Monday, 2/17/1997 ( WWE RAW Episode#197 ) From: Nashville, TN: Nashville Arena: The Head Bangers ( Mosh & Trasher ) defeated The New BlackJacks ( Barry Windham & John Bradshaw RAW Debut of BlackJacks)

@tobysgamingworld1550 4 ай бұрын

Timeline seems off. He was wrestling for Cornette’s version of NWA before he went to being Blackjack. Stalker was early 90’s. I was lost but I wasn’t there so lol😂

@joncrack187 4 ай бұрын

You're very wrong Widowmaker was early 90s late 80s Stalker was 96 Him joining Camp Cornettes NWA retreat was after the new Blackjacks broke up

@danpoutsma1351 4 ай бұрын

@@joncrack187He actually turned heel on Bradshaw to join the NWA

@Chaz4543 4 ай бұрын

Barry Windham could have played the JBL character if he was younger and healthier. JBL was over more than any of Bradshaw and Windham's previous gimmicks.

@user-pc8uq6df2k 3 ай бұрын

Nowhere near as talented though.

@Stl.Cardinals 3 ай бұрын

Barry windham was my 2nd favorite wrestler of all time right behind dusty Rhodes

@eazypeazy33 3 ай бұрын

UFC has rhe same starve you out contracts

@thelowesttreeshavetops3541 3 ай бұрын

Barry Windham was my favorite pro wrestler. And I was a fan of Justin "Hawk" Bradshaw in Texas and his early WWF work, but I hated that the WWF made them the Blackjacks and what they did - or, rather, didn't do - with them. Boring with no direction.

@dave-rf2vn 4 ай бұрын

Vince don't like any NWA /WCW guys anyway

@tjermoal 4 ай бұрын

He like Steve Austin, Kevin Nash, Scott hall and ric flair

@kazar_redbull1 3 ай бұрын

Hell his biggest guy The Undertaker came from there

@dave-rf2vn 3 ай бұрын

@@kazar_redbull1 so true but he was covered up lol

@dave-rf2vn 3 ай бұрын

@@kazar_redbull1 all those guys you mentioned were midcarders in NWA /WCW ,I should of said hey the top guys in NWA/WCW Vince buried them

@tjermoal 3 ай бұрын

@@dave-rf2vn ric flair not one

@bobnewfart7630 4 ай бұрын

Well one thing about it Barry look at old Vince now he's not doing to will is he.. I hope you are doing well man.

@davidgraham8299 3 ай бұрын

Vince just made a hundred million selling off shares. He's doing ok.

@bobnewfart7630 3 ай бұрын

@@davidgraham8299 He will be lucky if he don't go to jail for forking poop on the ladys

@rondoughhowell6442 3 ай бұрын

a 1977 gimmick wasn't going to work in 1997

@sethkaplan 4 ай бұрын

That nwa gimmick wasn’t any better 😮

@johnnyskinwalker4095 4 ай бұрын

I liked it, personally. Was pretty old school Horsemen stuff.

@billinorlando2887 3 ай бұрын

West Virginia has 8k elevation? 😂

@TrumpImmortal 4 ай бұрын

This whole shoot somewhere or do i have to keep watching 5 minutes clips every day?

@TitleMatchWrestling 4 ай бұрын

TitleMatchNetwork.com

@J_Cubed 4 ай бұрын

If only there was a way to expand the description

@TrumpImmortal 4 ай бұрын

@@TitleMatchWrestling appreciate it.

@user-pc8uq6df2k 3 ай бұрын

The continuous attempts to make Barry a clone of his dad were just dumb.

@mauricegilliam7102 3 ай бұрын

Pro wrestlers go Thur some horrible stuff. 😢

@ricstormwolf 3 ай бұрын

Man, if we didn't know what a POS Vince has been for 40 years, we sure know now.

@wa2k99 4 ай бұрын

Russo didn't like Windham

@jefferyorton1723 4 ай бұрын

What's he talking about? Round IS a shape. Lol😂

@arturoalmazan5262 4 ай бұрын

every gimmick Barry windham did in wwe failed or didnt get anywhere. The widomaker fail . the stalker fail and the new blackjacks fail. wtf

@seanmckeever6030 4 ай бұрын

He was tag champs with Mike rotunda in the mid 80s. That worked pretty well for em😂

@ChineseSausage 3 ай бұрын

Widowmaker was ok, but had to get out because his family had some legal issues. Which is why he missed that years Survivor Series on which he was originally booked, and was replaced by Akeem. The Stalker on the other hand...

@weasel1btr 4 ай бұрын

This looks like it has 1987 filter on it..

@hoodtohollywood 3 ай бұрын

Sounds like Barry Windham struggled to follow instructions from Vince. Yes, you were ribbed.

@gregorykrug8034 4 ай бұрын

I love Barry Windham, and I do not want to be "that guy," but there are no major towns in WV that have an elevation even close to a mile in elevation. I hate Vince's ideas about changing names, coloring hair, etc. Contrary to what Vince thinks, not all WWE fans are idiots.