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CONTINENTAL SportContact 7 vs MICHELIN Pilot Sport Cup 2

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Jan Bartos

Jan Bartos

Жыл бұрын

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Jak jsem sliboval, tak jsem i udělal! Připravil jsem pro vás onboard srovnání nejužívanějších trackday pneumatik, Continental SportContact 7 a Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2. Výsledné časy jsou 1:51,35 pro CONTINENTAL a 1:52,33 pro MICHELIN. Vzhledem k tomu, že je Michelin dražší o více jak 50 % oproti Continentálu, tak jsem z výsledku mile překvapen. :D
Na zadních pneu mám stále pneumatiky Michelin, protože v mém (debilním americkém) rozměru se nic jiného nedělá.
As I promised, I delivered! I have prepared an onboard comparison for you of the most commonly used trackday tires, the Continental SportContact 7 and the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2. The resulting times are 1:51.35 for CONTINENTAL and 1:52.33 for MICHELIN. Considering that Michelin is more than 50 % more expensive than Continental, I am pleasantly surprised by the results. :D
I still have Michelin tires on the rear, as nothing else is available in my size.

Пікірлер: 64
@pheonixfps9248
@pheonixfps9248 4 ай бұрын
Thats a big statement from Conti. To take out MPC2R's that well, with a tyre built to compete against the MPS4's. I'm incredibly blown away.
@VxO4fame
@VxO4fame Жыл бұрын
Thx for the comparison. I was wondering how the SC7 would perform against the 4s or CUP Sport 2
@markrhoden68
@markrhoden68 6 күн бұрын
Im torn between the 4s and the C7 for my Z4 m40i as I've heard the C7 although epic can wear faster than the 4s. Can anyone give a answer to this question 🤔
@sniperBOBAH
@sniperBOBAH Жыл бұрын
Your previous best lap is 1.1sec slower on Michelin. How consistent is your time?
Жыл бұрын
I am not professional driver and I have'nt race car. I only drove a few times on this race track. My fast laps are between 1:52 - 1:55.
@carmasterz9733
@carmasterz9733 Жыл бұрын
Amazing. Were these MPSC2 the Connect version with 240 treadwear the normal ones? Did the CSC7 had the EVc marking? Were they by any chance MO? thanks
Жыл бұрын
Hi, MPSC2 normal CUP2 with N0 (Porsche). And Continental with EV check, without any other homologation. MPSC2 CONNECT for GT350 are almost unreal to order in Europe, very unavailable goods.
@drszaby
@drszaby 3 ай бұрын
Ok... So which one is the better?
3 ай бұрын
It depends on what you require. The Conti has the best price/performance ratio but is not suitable for endurance racing as it is still a UHP road tyre. Michelin is very expensive and can withstand more pressure. I don't race and I can do perfect times with Conti, so it's an ideal choice for me.
@hubertfijoek3879
@hubertfijoek3879 Жыл бұрын
How does Conti handle higher tyre temperatures that you get while track driving after a few laps? Also, does it wear much faster after getting hot? How is it compared to Mcup2 in above aspects?
@big-R
@big-R Жыл бұрын
After 10 - 15 minutes of driving on track, my SportContact 7 went from 2.1 to 2.5 bar (30 to 36 psi). On the next session I had to take it very easy the first lap to get the tires warmed up because the cold pressure was very low. Overall, I found SportContact 7 to have way way too soft of a sidewall for a 3500 lbs car (235/35 and 265/30 R19). Would not buy again due to a very soft sidewall.
@dca.911
@dca.911 8 ай бұрын
This is kinda surprising as I've read that they had a medium/firm sidewall, but maybe this is too soft for a track use ?@@big-R
@big-R
@big-R 8 ай бұрын
@@dca.911In the end this is not a track tire. It worked and was sticky but otherwise it wasn't good. Tire roll was felt from the drivers seat immensely. I've driven other street tires on track with better experience. Maybe it's in my case in particular and my sizes (235 in a 9 inch wheel and 265 on a 10 inch wheel), but the tire roll was so bad that I would call it dangerous. I will eventually drive these on track again to use them up but this time with even more pressure to make up for the sidewall. One last thing... when I put these tires on I immediately noticed how comfortable the car became in normal driving. A very soft tire.
@shadow6687
@shadow6687 6 ай бұрын
​@@dca.911i do not have a race car and i never did track use, but on my car i have SC7 and in road use i almost finished my traction wheel tyre in just 10'000km (6,200 miles), they are really soft also for road use, perfect for short use of the car but with high temperature and longer use they worn too fast. However (again just for road use) i found it the best tyre i ever tried even compared with michelin (not for mileage)
@pheonixfps9248
@pheonixfps9248 4 ай бұрын
​@big-R 265...on a 10 inch wheel....yeah that's the bigger issue. The tyre to rim aspect is wrong.
@sergeys8249
@sergeys8249 Жыл бұрын
unbelievable, good driving
@big-R
@big-R Жыл бұрын
How was your wear after the sessions on the Contis? Mine appear as if they had a very very rough time.
Жыл бұрын
Not that bad. After 118 laps the tires looked good. About 60% wear. I have racing geometry. The tires don't suffer as much.
@JavierAlvarez-sv6qo
@JavierAlvarez-sv6qo 6 ай бұрын
Do you think that apart from technology are way better the SC7 than the PS4S?
5 ай бұрын
For sure!
@TD-047
@TD-047 Жыл бұрын
Hooray 4th gear is fixed. Are you running 305 30 up front or 295 35?
Жыл бұрын
Hi, I am using 305 30 19 front and 325 30 19 rear :)
@TD-047
@TD-047 Жыл бұрын
@ Same here. Rear bar is set to the softest front is 2nd up. I did get the DSC for the dampers and that helped with the fast rebound. Not sure if you can do it, but I have HSC hi-flo 200 cell cats on the car from fabspeed. It is noticeable and no tune needed. HSC is German so maybe you can just cut the stock cats off and replace with those. BTW ford just warrantied my engine for a gen 2 for oil consumption. So now its has the R valve train parts.
@realstradman
@realstradman Жыл бұрын
Did you use same pressures for both tyres?
Жыл бұрын
Yes, 2,3 bar
@footageaerial3447
@footageaerial3447 Жыл бұрын
I assume your michelin fronts are older and used compared to the continental fronts
Жыл бұрын
This comparison is between Michelin and Continental, both tires were lightly ridden. This is my fastest round on both tires.
@markr.9626
@markr.9626 Жыл бұрын
Is the Extreme Contact Force a better tire than teh Sport Contact 7?
Жыл бұрын
I dont know, bcs Extreme Contact cannot be bought in EU.
@pheonixfps9248
@pheonixfps9248 3 ай бұрын
No.
@big-R
@big-R Жыл бұрын
Were you driving with SC7 on the front and Cup2s on the rear?
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@BixenteDelBosque
@BixenteDelBosque 7 ай бұрын
really?? and you don't precise it in the description??@
@PIWO2237
@PIWO2237 5 ай бұрын
@ ?
@PIWO2237
@PIWO2237 5 ай бұрын
@ ???
@shadow6687
@shadow6687 3 ай бұрын
Man te whole set was continental. Left continental and michelin right. 4 continental. 4 michelin, not mixed
@good2pac
@good2pac 8 ай бұрын
SC7 VS PS4S ?
8 ай бұрын
PS4S is technologically outdated, it has no chance against SC7. The new PS5 (or PS S5) should be more competitive.
@Autohunter06
@Autohunter06 Жыл бұрын
So with wich tires you fell better and safer ?
Жыл бұрын
Both tires are safe. Michelin is more precise while Continental is faster :)
@gentomapentomoseis3155
@gentomapentomoseis3155 Жыл бұрын
@ You mean better steering feel?
Жыл бұрын
@@gentomapentomoseis3155 Michelin has a racing heel cord and sidewalls, which is why it provides more precision in turns. But Michelin CUP2 is semi-slick = racing equipment :D Continental is daily tire, with racing benefits.
@barisa8389
@barisa8389 Жыл бұрын
​@ 9ok
@jakjak258
@jakjak258 Жыл бұрын
Don't know how to explain that but my SC7 on my Audi A5 felt really sporty and quick feedback.. now on my TTS they feel so lazy especially initial feedback is gone!.. do they decrease quality or what??? With economic crisis I can believe anything manufacturers can do lol
@VxO4fame
@VxO4fame Жыл бұрын
they are probably different sidewall sizes?
@big-R
@big-R Жыл бұрын
I can confirm your finding on being too soft and that the car "swims" around before the tires settle in their sidewall movements. My sidewalls are 35 and 30 and I found the experience disappointing. The overall grip is high... once the tires settle. I do actually wonder if different sizes drive differently. They were praised by the online reviews but I didn't find them to be great in my sizes (235/35/19 265/30/19).
@jakjak258
@jakjak258 11 ай бұрын
@@big-R which leads to extrem quick wear just unbelievable sides are like 90% in only 3000km
@shiranRSA
@shiranRSA 7 ай бұрын
@@big-Ris the correct size fit the tts on 19’ not 245/35/19. The speed rating is 93Y
@pheonixfps9248
@pheonixfps9248 4 ай бұрын
Tyre pressure to car weight, and wheel alignment have big factors in how tyres feel. It's easy to have so many mismatched settings that make tyres feel junk.
@seryinio15
@seryinio15 Жыл бұрын
Es impresionante ver a un neumático deportivo más rápido que un semislick
@seryinio15
@seryinio15 Жыл бұрын
@ going to follow
Жыл бұрын
Technological progress cannot be stopped. :)
@seryinio15
@seryinio15 Жыл бұрын
@ Technology advances by days. I just ordered SP7 on 225/40/18, I'm very excited to try them, especially after watching the video. I'm waiting here or on Instagram to see how long they last
@zdenekbrezina9961
@zdenekbrezina9961 Жыл бұрын
CZG IL byla taky dobra zabava 😁
Жыл бұрын
Byla, je a bude :)
@zdenekbrezina9961
@zdenekbrezina9961 Жыл бұрын
@ bude zase CZG? ]] Byla by to taky pekna jizda xD
Жыл бұрын
@@zdenekbrezina9961 to né, teď už je jiná doba, hrajou se jiný hry a děcka už neumí farmit :D
@robertrasmussen8573
@robertrasmussen8573 8 ай бұрын
Ya tenias las michelin y las llanatas no respondias a las curvas te da la sensacion que se va avoltear o se va y cuando aceleras en curva como que las llantas patinan evitando el contacto y ahora wue tengo las continental puedo hacer cirvas sin problemas tienen mas agarre y eso me da mas seguridad al girar y mas velocidad y una salids mas rapida ya no las cambio por nada y otra cosa las michelin muy seguido se le metian los clavos y se ponchava cada rato y desde que tengo las continental solo las parche una vez y no perdio nada de aire lo tenia ahi y ni cuenta me di hasta que me puse a lavar el auto las temgo en un dodge durengo
@PIWO2237
@PIWO2237 5 ай бұрын
Joke?
5 ай бұрын
Nope.
@spookyreaper1702
@spookyreaper1702 Жыл бұрын
I just don’t understand how the sport contact is better than cup2s when the ps4s and sports are almost the same. Maybe tyre wear or something but no other test has results like this. Anyway thank you for the video different drivers will have different results. I don’t mean to discredit your test 🫡
Жыл бұрын
Sportcontact 7 is super modern high tech tire, maybe there is the key :D Michelin plans introduce PS5S, so maybe that tire will be game changer or CUP3? Technological progress cannot be stopped.
@daveyofyeshua
@daveyofyeshua Жыл бұрын
The CSC6 is quicker on track than the MPS4S, would appear the SC7 have moved the game on considerably. Only time will tell if the MPSS5 can re gain it's crown last held by the MPSS
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