Basic Heat Pump Setup, a not so quick tutorial - Stationeers Liquid Update

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JoelleGamesAbsurdly

JoelleGamesAbsurdly

10 ай бұрын

WHY! Do you need a description... the title tells you all you need to know about the video... FINE! In this video, I show off a "Basic Heat Pump Setup." There, are you happy now? You have a description... I'm still not doing tags...

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@reububble
@reububble 5 ай бұрын
13:42 That's a 32 bit float's version of 0.4. The game could still be using any other representation for doing the math, but it's likely to be float32 too.
@jojoskunk
@jojoskunk 10 ай бұрын
nice work.
@ChanceSarsis
@ChanceSarsis 10 ай бұрын
what would we do without your helpful info. thank you for uploading this
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
Look at a real youtuber's video?
@ChanceSarsis
@ChanceSarsis 10 ай бұрын
You are, that you, you are the real youtuber all along!
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
@@ChanceSarsis No, real youtubers get paid something, I haven't even filled out my e-mail address, so I'm ineligible for monetization, and no on can bribe me... I don't even get free key. I'm just a moron with too much free time.
@ChanceSarsis
@ChanceSarsis 10 ай бұрын
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist the core of youtube was to share idea, having fun, and spend a good time. The new youtube is filled with forced ads, the eternal mind breaking "like and sub" where the content is a frontstore to ask you money and sell you stuff first with some content built around. you are a very rare person who keep the spirit of what youtube used to be, a chill place to share ideas, have fun for the sake of having fun, and be who you are. i would not call you a moron, and you do deserve good things to happen to you. but your much free time is super appreciate, and even though i stop playing this game, i am still filled with happiness whenever you release a new video. Dont stop being yourself, that what matter the most in this world and i will forever be grateful you take the time to share your fun with us.
@hackedbyBLAGH
@hackedbyBLAGH 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. Would you now please do a simple step by step with the chambers? I want to take the hot Atmos of Venus and use it to cool a small base and as early game as possible. Maybe like dumping the base heat into water then cool the water down some how? Thank you
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
Finished recording it... now I have to edit... I hate editing...
@hackedbyBLAGH
@hackedbyBLAGH 10 ай бұрын
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist Awesome thank you
@temar96
@temar96 9 ай бұрын
considering this was only posted 2 weeks ago i expected better use of new stuff, powered vents works really well, no need for lots of active vents, also direct heat exchangers work well
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 9 ай бұрын
Considering this was posted on the day of The Powered Vent Update, I would think a reasonable person would assume it was recorded and edited before that... But we both know a secrete don't we! YAY! THAT'S CORRECT! YOU JUST WANTED TO COMPLAIN AND SHOW OFF YOUR INTERNET FEELINGS!
@s.sradon9782
@s.sradon9782 10 ай бұрын
I have an Idea for cooling the GFG: submerge it in a room of liquid and as it heats it will expand into a gas where it can vent and phase change into liquid to be drained into the room again, exploiting the superior conductivity of liquids and ability to keep consistent temperature by instead using the fluid's latent heat capacity by having it expand and absorb the heat energy around it. It's like cooling a hot coffee with ice as opposed to adding cold water.
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
That might be a little hard to control passively
@baronvonschnellenstein2811
@baronvonschnellenstein2811 10 ай бұрын
Yes! Does what it says on the tin (er, title) :) - I think you struck a nice balance between brevity and detail - 🍻 Also: Yes! "Your" setup _does_ look more elegant, yet it appears to need more active parts 😜 ... I expect Rocketwerkz will update the look of the new big condenser/evaporator apparatii at some point - as much as I love orange, it makes those parts look even worse! - Also, I think those (what _was_ 'standard' heat exchangers) have now been hot-"fixed" to be from T2 pipe-bender and require Invar now :( - 'Proper' heat exchangers are now mid-game, expensive components to make -- Further notes re cooling a base: - It seems like a 100W (1 x Active vent) "home brew" A/C uses only 20% of the power and is just as effective as an A/C unit with an Active Vent to help push the cooled air around (400W + 100W) In a 7x7x3 volume on Mars, pressurised to ~50kPa (~75% N2 / 25% O2) - Both heated up the "heatsink" gas reservoir at roughly the same rate and to the same temperature (and brought the target 'room' _down_ in temp. at same rate) given the same starting conditions. :-/ [ - The home brew was simply a gas-gas heat exchanger. Air to be cooled was force fed (using one active vent) through one side of the exchanger. "Heat sink" side is a 4000L insulated tank of CO2 at ~4MPa and ~5 Deg C (as this is in survival save and I couldn't be @r$ed chilling it down to -50 Deg C, yet!) - so just the one pipe from tank to exchanger and the closed loop at the exhanger. - Once down to same starting temperature, used the same "heat sink" tank for the waste-gas connection on the A/C ]
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
So you were using the active vent as a compressor?
@baronvonschnellenstein2811
@baronvonschnellenstein2811 10 ай бұрын
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist Probably not - I'm not re-compressing refrigerant after thermal expansion. ( I'm far from an expert on HVAC, hence your recent videos are very helpful :) ) The active vent is driving the air to be cooled from the target room, through one 'leg' of the "hot" side of the heat exchanger and back out into the target room via a passive vent on the other 'leg' of the exchanger's "hot" side for more airflow into room being cooled. The "refrigerant" gas (CO2) is connected to other side of heat exchanger, but this is just the 'standard' tank of cold gas [pre "compressed" to ~4.5MPa], a pipe to the exchanger and that one pipe is connected to both 'legs' of the "cold" side of the exchanger. As my current play through is on Mars, I passively re-cool the refrigerant (overnight) using radiators on a pipe network outdoors. The valve to the passive cooling network is opened when the temperature of the gas in the radiators is less than that of the gas in the refrigerant tank.
@s.sradon9782
@s.sradon9782 10 ай бұрын
With phase change it seems like you can now scavenge energy from hot exhaust thru a stirling engine and have it actually be worth it? any advice on building a reverse heat pump?
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
I reverse heat pump is constructed the same way, except the cold side it outside, and the warm side inside. If you want it reversible, like a mini-split, just put in some valves.
@ViroMad
@ViroMad 8 ай бұрын
I still can't get any kind of working AC setup on Venus that doesn't use the portable ac or large amount of AC units. :(
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 8 ай бұрын
Keep all your machinery out of your cold area, everything generates heat, so minimize the introduction of it. Instead of daisychaining a bunch of AC to one another, loop the input and outputs outside, set the temperature slightly above ambient, and pipe the waste port into the base. This way any AC will apply maximum cooling. Finally, abuse the hell out of water... put it into a pipe network, and keep adding segments onto it to lower the pressure, this will help stabilize a target temperature. Storm on Venus are less than the game's water infinite point. When a storm occurs, cool as much mass as possible, and use it as a sink.
@ViroMad
@ViroMad 8 ай бұрын
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist Interesting idea... never thought of reversing the ac's to heat the outside. will give it a try in creative.
@ViroMad
@ViroMad 8 ай бұрын
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist Just rant the test and it doesn't work. The temperature difference is too high. Somewhere around 280c the AC's differential efficiency becomes 0 and stops giving cold waste gas.
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 8 ай бұрын
@@ViroMad steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3044001607 steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3044001670
@pinks1947
@pinks1947 10 ай бұрын
moist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
OH! STEAMY!
@s.sradon9782
@s.sradon9782 10 ай бұрын
This game is brain-melting
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
Sometimes... but it melts my brain for other reason... reasons that make me bully the developer for months
@roomtemp6374
@roomtemp6374 10 ай бұрын
This video is longer than 37 seconds and it's missing the techno track from Guantanamo. I guess you're a maverick now.
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
Did you want me to contact someone for you? You seem to be in distress.
@g45h96
@g45h96 10 ай бұрын
The bit about phase change in real life is incorrect. At a given pressure, representing a given phase change point, a liquid will not rise above the temperature needed for phase change. Greatest example of this, take the temperature of boiling water. It will not rise above 100c (212f). Any water that heats beyond that point is turned to steam, and leaves the system. This does result in sharp dropoffs, as no energy can be added to the system until the pressure, temperature, and phase change point has equalized
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
First of all, you are assuming a system is infinitely open, and that the vapour can always escape the vicinity of the surface area, and you're assuming a uniform transfer of energy, resulting in the entire body of liquid heating uniformly.
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
You made me rewatch my own video to figure out what the hell you were talking about. No... Plots of real life phase change temperatures and pressures do not ever exhibit sharp drop-offs or increases... the vapour pressure of a fluid, so far, has never exhibited a nearly infinite shift in any direction in temperature of pressure to achieve any phase change. What you are confusing this with, is the plateau seen while a fluid is undergoing phase change at a SPECIFIC temperature and pressure. Greatest example of this, the water not stop liquefying at 375c regardless of pressure, as it does in game. But thank you for your well actually...
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_diagram
@g45h96
@g45h96 10 ай бұрын
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist ahh. My apologies. I thought you *were* saying the plateau exhibited at a given temperature and pressure was not realistic. But you're saying (and forgive me, I'm still very new to the game and haven't played with the new updates much) that the vapor pressure doesn't eventually equalize the system in a pipe network, and the liquid continues to boil off? Or maybe I'm still not clear.
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
@@g45h96 In the game, at relatively low temperatures and pressures, whatever fluid you're trying to manipulate, remains a gas, because the required energy to cause a phase change, becomes infinite, meaning even if you bring the gas up to 1+ Gpa at 1000c, the fluid remains a gas. This is not realistic, or even possible. At those pressures, most substances cannot remain a gas. Hydrogen for instance, at 400Gpa, will become matalic, and self organize into a lattice structure. At 20,000 Kpa, water will remain liquid at 700 degrees, however, in the game, at 6000Kpa and 350 some odd degrees celsius, water's phase profile falls off a cliff and can no longer liquefy, it requires infinite energy to state change in the game. It is not a temperature plateau, it's an energy absorption blackhole.
@wriker36
@wriker36 10 ай бұрын
You lost me at "Hi ya, and welcome, welcome, welcome...". Great info though for someone who is more advanced than myself.
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
No no no, hiya, hiya, like a karate chop... It slightly threatening. The rest was making fun of my last video.
@wriker36
@wriker36 10 ай бұрын
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist Ah... Hyyyyy Yaaaah. Got it sensei. Look forward to the next one.
@wriker36
@wriker36 10 ай бұрын
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist OK, I just subscribed. I thought I better do it now so that I can say I was one of the first to subscribe when you hit 100 million. Now don't forget, I'm subscriber number 170. I just checked before I subscribed, it was 169, now it's 170. That's me!
@JoelleTheAbsurdist
@JoelleTheAbsurdist 10 ай бұрын
@@wriker36 DUDE! You just missed a fun number... I don't know why, but everyone on the internet seems to laugh when you say 69. I think it's a very pleasant number. And 169, would mean 100 69s! Even better!
@wriker36
@wriker36 10 ай бұрын
@@JoelleTheAbsurdist I wasn't quick enough. I think 169 went to 'Tim' in Laoshouling, Wuxuan County, China. I missed out by like 30mins. I'm OK with 170. Iis the largest integer for which its factorial can be stored in IEEE 754 double-precision floating-point format. Or at least that's what 'Google' says?
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