I have been working on a gas distillation on the moon. Radiators can liquify nitrogen so you dont need all of the AC units. But it is very slow.

So many different ways it can be done and none of them right and none of them wrong. I still think I have a lot of improvements to make.

I'm trying your mips programming tutorials now. Could take awhile.

I was lost too. So many broken pipes. There might be another play through if I can find a planet that inspires me.

Hope a new play through will come when the new rockets are due to land, phase change and rockets play through is going to be quite a challange@@cowsareevil7514

My first few attempts at explaining that were complete gibberish. That was the coherent(ish) version.

@@cowsareevil7514 and you did a fine job. These new mechanics will just take some getting used to (haven''t played with it yet since they implemented it).

I don't know what you are talking about. It really is triggered by an OCD sensor.

They fixed that, or so I thought.

@@lionllew6601 They might well have, I haven't played on Venus since they mucked it up. ^^ I'll give it a go later and see!

@@lionllew6601 No, you still get thrown around like a feather when you mine, you just dont get damaged.

None of the gasses will liquify at Venus temperatures so you still require AC for some of the cooling. I still believe winterspawn is the best for Venus.

Yep. Fortunately the simple systems are good enough.

The turbines are net effective for generating power from my experiments. For power from heat I like to use the Stirling engine.

are you sure the excess heat isn't radiating to the atmosphere, so that the temperature is normal again when you release it?

It can be but the thrick is to generate more power than you use compressing the gas.

There are many ways to do it. A closed system will become heat saturated if you dont have some way to get rid of the heat. On Vulcan it can be easier to discard the heated gas and replace it with more mined fron the atmosphere.

@@cowsareevil7514 Thanks for the response! Yeah, that makes sense. I guess you would either have to dump it back into the start of the first stage or just exhaust it outside. So many different possibilities, will be fun to see all the crazy setups/systems.

And or give the gas fuel generator a re-try? In my experience, the basics are the same. The result doesn't seem to be. Thank you for being back on yt. Missed this.

@@pvstiphout i'm trying to use the phase changes as a way to generate electricity , solar , wind , gas fuel n solid fuel has been done like every other playthrough , but i havent seen any tried to use this phase change property to generate electricity yet . It says that we need both hot gas n cold gas at high pressure to generate electric , maybe mick could integrate this into the system , getting something extra as we cooldown/heat up gas with phase changed mechanic.

I think I used only Stirling engines for my Terraforming Mars series. And that base was the most power hungry base I have ever made.

@@cowsareevil7514 any chance you can link stirling engine in your latent heat setup? im intrigued with the idea .

I dont think you can make a reversible one but seperate heating and cooling can be done.

so, a heat pump. in real life this is done by having reversing valves to "flip around" the compressor and capillary in reference to the condensor and evaporator so they can push heat in or pull it out of a room. this could be doable, but in stationeers the pipes and systems are so bulky i'd think a separate system for each would be more appropriate. just have them both output to the same medium, be that your in base radiators / liquid temperature conditioning loop or directly heat/cool the air in the ventilation.

Keep in mind that you're using a fair amount of energy on all these pumps to liquify. The stirling generator would just trade the heat differential back for energy. This would only be energy positive if there is a bug.

@@WolvesPlaysGames Well, now energy is still wasted on cooling and the idea of reducing (compensating) these costs seems very attractive to me

You have waste heat from other processes that you can use instead of making the heat. I am thinking H2 combuster + stirling + evaporative cooling = water, power and cooling.

Yes. A segment of pipe network is *functionally* a cell just like the cells that make up a room. You'd just be dealing with much larger volumes and would need some minor coding to regulate the final room's pressure to fine tune the temperature.

@@chriswoodend2036 would the windows handle the pressure so I can see the pretty clouds.

@@kyleallred984 Not easily but it could be done. The key thing with windows/walls is that what damages them is pressure differential between two different cells, not an absolute pressure. So for example if it's a vacuum outside 400kPa inside would blow out a wall. If your inside pressure is 4mPa and outside is 4.1mPa even iron windows would handle it. The differential is only 100kPa in that case. It would require you to make a series of airlocks to step up pressure to get to the "viewing room" but it can be done. If you don't want to go to that much trouble (for higher pressures we're talking about literally dozens of airlocks) you could stick with doing it for anything that can liquify in a range that a single steel window panel can handle and then just use tanks for anything outside that pressure range.

There is a floor drain in the kits that I have never used. That might collect liquid from a room.

the heat leaves with the compressed gas at first stage, then the rest leaves trough the pruge valves along with the gas coming from last stage picking up heat from all the stages until first stage where it just gets dumped with the other gas. not sure if at the time the video was made there were counter flow radiators in game, those would have made a much simpler setup.

The real question is can we get it hot enough for a furnace?

Yeh. If I understand the developer intent here, liquifaction will be necessary in a future update for rocket propellent. We'll eventually need a setup that liquifies O2 and VOL.

In case what you're asking for a just the number, ~-230c.

You are limited by the freezing point of nitrogen.

The real goal is to liquify O2. For reference the max liquification points: O2 -111C Vol -78.1C NO2 158C N2 -83.1C Liquid N2 doesn't have alot of practical use.... maybe use N2 liquid to cool a GFG? Not sure it wouldn't be a waste of power though.

It was just to get to survival, that is all.