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Missildine Online!

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6 жыл бұрын

My LIVE REACTION to the Battle for Lordaeron Cinematics that released during the Battle for Lordaeron scenario - where the Alliance attacks Undercity after a devastating loss. My reaction includes the Alliance and Horde cinematics - including the Jaina Cinematic reveal! These contain the story for Battle for Azeroth and some of the main characters ahead of the August 14th Release Date. This was taken from my livestream on the DAY it was released.
The attack by the Horde on Teldrassil was not taken lightly by the Alliance - and as quickly as possible, Anduin - the Boy King - has taken the Alliance to the doorstep of the Forsaken. Today, the Alliance will reclaim Lordaeron...but not if Sylvanas has anything to do with it. Oh and hey - the Alliance has Jaina backing them up and she is INSANELY powerful!
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@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
The Battle for Lordaeron is LIVE right now in game - no pre-order necessary! We streamed the whole thing on both the Horde and the Alliance and this is what I'll tell you - Jaina is a badass and Sylvanas is the Lich Queen of Sass. Enjoy my reaction! Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE - I stream A LOT and I'd love to see ya in the chat. Check the description for more info!
@rahatpradhan7913
@rahatpradhan7913 6 жыл бұрын
Missildine Online! Jaina is the coolest OMG she’s so cool.
@brunom7162
@brunom7162 6 жыл бұрын
Just saying: your reactions are amazing, don't stop it!! I'm ansious to watch you react to Azshara's warbringer :)
@AimRobot
@AimRobot 6 жыл бұрын
Could be onto something with Sylvanas. We still dont know what name the spirits were whispering VolJin when he made her warcrief. We just know many wouldnt understand it.
@HotsRus
@HotsRus 6 жыл бұрын
horde side, where do i pick up the starting of The Battle for Lordaeron?
@moriakpotato
@moriakpotato 6 жыл бұрын
@HotsRus: In Orgrimmar's central building (Grommash Hold)
@DevinAspect
@DevinAspect 6 жыл бұрын
Btw. After watching this so many times, I love the parallel between Anduin and Arthas shown in the alliance end cinematic where Anduin is walking down the same hall where Arthas did except instead of celebration, it's damaged and battered. Anduin looks up at the sky in the same spot where Arthas did back in WC3. Just beautiful
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Oh damn! I didn't even see that!
@zonagarii
@zonagarii 6 жыл бұрын
also opens the door same way, almost making the same mistake by killing the person on the throne like Arthas did.
@siyarg.4900
@siyarg.4900 6 жыл бұрын
THE SIMILARITIES ARE INSANE BETWEEN PRE-FROSTMOURNE ARTHAS AND MANDUIN, THEY'RE BOTH PALADIN PRINCES, BOTH LOVE THEIR PEOPLE ENOUGH TO SACRIFICE THEMSELVES FOR THEM, AND THEN THEIR MANNERISMS AND HOW THE WALK ARE ALL THE SAME
@Chirpykat
@Chirpykat 6 жыл бұрын
Garrosh even made a comparison to them both in War Crimes too!
@Hellfire918
@Hellfire918 6 жыл бұрын
Well Anduin is still, in cannon, a Priest not a Paladin.
@DevinAspect
@DevinAspect 6 жыл бұрын
The "for the horde" Baine says always gives me chills. Such a bitter tone. This whole thing is amazing!!!
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Baine does NOT like what is happening. I love it. Can't wait to see what they end up doing
@terbin4487
@terbin4487 6 жыл бұрын
I’m just waiting for baine to leave her side
@wolfstar_productions
@wolfstar_productions 6 жыл бұрын
It looked like Salvanas ordered to have him killed... "You know what you have to do"...
@juliansmit3770
@juliansmit3770 6 жыл бұрын
Fred Wolfstar-Lenhart i thought so too but I think Nathanos just shot the kegs of blight with her bow whenever she did her banshee scream. That was the signal for him to shoot the kegs
@juliansmit3770
@juliansmit3770 6 жыл бұрын
Fred Wolfstar-Lenhart also when they stand on the airship she hs her bow back in her hand so I think she just gave it to Nathanos to shoot the bombs
@wadeyoungblood6688
@wadeyoungblood6688 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your Theory. I really hope they're not just making Sylvanas another Hellscream.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
I dont think they would. It doesnt seem like it would be in their best interest.
@Edusturluson
@Edusturluson 6 жыл бұрын
hell... she scream alot at least...
@garouchieflol
@garouchieflol 6 жыл бұрын
i think she saw old gods old gods everywhere now that azeroth is wounded and weakened they can make their move.
@biscuitman5388
@biscuitman5388 6 жыл бұрын
Hellscream said she's just like Lich King and roasted her about it. And so far it's more towards him than a Garrosh comparison
@rockdie9522
@rockdie9522 6 жыл бұрын
No way!
@frederickmiller5492
@frederickmiller5492 6 жыл бұрын
Jaina be like: "We don't need no stinkin Dragons!! I'll do this Myself!!"
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Jaina is the bees knees!
@Integroabysal
@Integroabysal 6 жыл бұрын
Well actually, right now i would call jaina has the same power as a guardian has even greater cause she has empowered buy Aegwyn herself and then her staff got empowered with the thunder king's powers.
@frederickmiller5492
@frederickmiller5492 6 жыл бұрын
is it bad that I was hoping her ship would have been made entirely out of arcane energy?? Now THAT would have been badass!!
@jakoby256
@jakoby256 3 жыл бұрын
Your idea was actually spot on. She was testing Anduin all along and wanted to make him stronger. She needs him in order to achieve her goals. Even now in Shadowlands, she could easily break his will and turn him into her slave, but again, she offered him a choice and tried to convince him.
@ExarchGaming
@ExarchGaming Жыл бұрын
He hit remarkably close to what happened. was a great bit of insight tbh.
@benthompson8475
@benthompson8475 6 жыл бұрын
"Our KING just routed your army" no actually he didn't, he was retreating before Jaina showed up, so technically "Our JAINA just routed your army" lol
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Jaina is our Hulk 😂
@DreamWalkerVl
@DreamWalkerVl 6 жыл бұрын
Jaina defeated the plague, not the army.
@thomasaugustto
@thomasaugustto 6 жыл бұрын
Do you think the reason Anduin muzzled Genn with that "enough" shout was because Genn called Sylvanas filth(y), referring to what she is, an undead, as he had done countless times before? Anduin has this recent experience in understanding what the forsaken are and not discriminating, something that Genn was involved in. To me Anduin is just tired of Genn losing his temper and insulting the forsaken for what they are. That "enough" says it all in my book... And I think it's the first time Anduin actually shouts like that, he definitely sounded like Varian. Or, to take this in a simpler manner, the shout was just intended to end the squabbling :p
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
It also shows the high king taking control of the situation in the face of his enemy. That's a huge deal
@thomasaugustto
@thomasaugustto 6 жыл бұрын
Genn, sit! Be a good boi or we aren't stopping by Gilneas on our way home.
@mielliot13
@mielliot13 6 жыл бұрын
Also Sylvanas wants to provoke him into proving she is more in control than the worgen. An angry beast is easier to kill than a smart beast. And greymane is pretty much angry all the time around her.
@Ardenithar
@Ardenithar 6 жыл бұрын
thomasaugustto That can't be because Before the Storm showed us that Genn doesn't hate the Forsaken. He solely hates Sylvanas with a passion.
@TheNewBerser
@TheNewBerser 6 жыл бұрын
That's the exact reason. Anduin does see the Forsaken as "People" unlike most of the living races. But he does believe that Sylvanas has no salvation, and that the Forsaken are just under a cruel ruleship.
@SnowyZoex
@SnowyZoex 6 жыл бұрын
Love this cinematic! Made so many goosebumps! #FORTHEALLIANCE ❤❤
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
It was SO GOOD! Jaina is ridiculously badass.
@brettnavin7225
@brettnavin7225 6 жыл бұрын
Great reaction! Finally someone who can detach themself from emotion and think critically!
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
I was detached from emotion?? Oh man - I was jumping out of my skin!
@brettnavin7225
@brettnavin7225 6 жыл бұрын
Lol I know you were jumping out of your skin but you didn't let your emotions get in the way of thinking of why this could be done. Instead of just saying she's evil. I appreciate that!
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Ooooh I actually agree with her! It was smart!
@HammerbaneEU
@HammerbaneEU 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice at the start of the cinematic how closely it resembles Arthas' betrayal cinematic in Warcraft 3? The music kicks in almost instantly with the exact same two camera angles it follows in the Warcraft 3 one? Pretty nice nod to Arthas as Anduin resembles Arthas pretty close :) Even the door open is the same!
@andreware2039
@andreware2039 6 жыл бұрын
Epic entrance for Jaina and an epic way to leave for Sylvanas. Also, your face... It's Naked D:
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
It's SO naked! And yeah - I'm LOVING these amazing female powerhouses they got going on right now. Damn.
@RungardYT
@RungardYT 6 жыл бұрын
To me, that smirk of Sylvanas means "So I guess this isn't over yet. I'm looking forward to the next round." Which would make sense in both scenes, the BfA trailer, and this one.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I don't know if even I believe my theory - but it's fun to think about!
@SnickerdoodleMcfox
@SnickerdoodleMcfox 6 жыл бұрын
that right there at the end sir was a brilliant plug
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Did ya like that ;)
@JoAnneMOwens
@JoAnneMOwens 6 жыл бұрын
Having played through both scenarios yesterday, i completely enjoyed watching your reactions, especially when Jaina arrived, it blew me away as well!
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
It's SO good. SO GOOD
@meaniechee
@meaniechee 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe Sylvanas has a weird boy crush on Anduin. She did have the "I'm liking what I'm seeing" look/smirk after Anduin's mass ress/heal in the BFA cinematic. 🤔 Good theory tho it does seem far fetched at this point in time. I'm eager to see how the story plays out. As much as I'm happy that Sylvanas turned out to be a cray burn-it-all evil lady (as I've been touting since she ravaged my home and killed my Prince), I'm still hoping there's more to it than meets the eye. It'd be a boring ending otherwise. On the other hand, I'm super duper happy that Jaina turned out to be super duper badass. The continuation from the Warbringer clip with her father's ship is just epic!
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
I'm loving the incredibly strong and powerful women Blizzard is bringing to the forefront - and wherever they take this story I'm gonna enjoy the ride
@wolfstar_productions
@wolfstar_productions 6 жыл бұрын
Jasmine, Laughing here, funny you say that, Three weeks ago, I wrote a Fan Fiction Story where Anduin discovers that Sylvanas is his Mother... etc etc.
@hangitfire2136
@hangitfire2136 6 жыл бұрын
+Missildine Online! First, who cares if they are women, they are just good characters. Second, can we please stop with the social justice bull crap....I've had enough of it.
@meaniechee
@meaniechee 6 жыл бұрын
Missildine Online Amen to that! I'm excited for the next Warbringer clip and BFA's release next week! #ForTheAlliance
@thornwalker4655
@thornwalker4655 6 жыл бұрын
Your reaction is the best ! As always.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Thorn!!
@bethbearmacethatguy
@bethbearmacethatguy 6 жыл бұрын
I think her smirk was more "You lost Darnassus plus the massive amounts of men and resources in this battle and got nothing. We lost a dusty sewer."
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
If UC was just that, sure! In Before the Storm, Sylvanas is TERRIFIED of losing Lordaeron to Calia.
@iandrsaurri625
@iandrsaurri625 6 жыл бұрын
I think she is simply smirking about alliance not getting Lordaeron. However, to extend on what you were saying. If she is trying to forge him into some perfect warrior, she could later murder Anduin and raise him as the perfect death knight just like the lich king did? Sylvannas is becoming a lich queen loool
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Mmm id think the same thing IF she didnt care about losing Undercity AND if she didnt do the same smirk in the BfA Cinematic!
@akiraguy
@akiraguy 6 жыл бұрын
in that case Anduin need to breed quick since he's currently the only member of Royal line of Azeroth.
@jadonharper1493
@jadonharper1493 6 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that’s an interesting plot point, if she is a half lich king 2.0 half garrosh 2.0 then that would make sense.
@kreshka
@kreshka 6 жыл бұрын
Well obviously, the Void will be the next enemy, starting with the old gods (ULDIR), so well, maybe she fears the Void, maybe she wanna forgeg horde and alliance to make it able to face the old gods
@kreshka
@kreshka 6 жыл бұрын
Well Sylvanas will die in Quel'Thalas, once again :o give me chills while thinking about it
@chrissychi
@chrissychi 6 жыл бұрын
Many hours later and I'm still not over this. Jaina my baby
@Sytadio
@Sytadio 6 жыл бұрын
I shivered when I played these missions yesterday and I shivered again now watching your video.
@AikoPuppet
@AikoPuppet 2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing the Stormwind Infiltration quest and one character saying “We cannot fight her!” Referring to Jaina. Now I see why O-O That girl is OP
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 2 жыл бұрын
She's just the best! Haha
@Forgotten_Moon
@Forgotten_Moon 6 жыл бұрын
I really love her call him "little lion". That's so doting
@Benjamin.90
@Benjamin.90 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to see someone love Jaina as much as I do. I've been looking forward to a story focus on her and Anduin ever since MoP. So I'm really enjoying all of it right now! As for the theory about the Sylvanas smirks: I would really love that, but honestly, I just think there's only one reason for it: It makes her look cool. You know, the arrogant smile of every villain ever, whenever they feel superior or after they've done something bad. It's most likely just that, in both the BfA cinematic as well as in the end here.
@johenkay1129
@johenkay1129 6 жыл бұрын
"Sylvanas is not evil. In the story for her, it’s much more. She’s definitely aggressive, and she definitely believes in having power and control, but I also think that she does take seriously the representation of the Horde. She has a different perspective which is that the Horde will never be safe until the Alliance is wiped out. But, is she acting in a cruel, mustache-twirling evil way? Not really, she’s just trying to defend her people." -Blizzard Game Senior Producer. I MEAN ITS RIGHT THERE PEOPLE...Sylvanas is NOT unnecessarily "evil". Only enough to get things done. She's integrated her shadow (Jordan P reference). She is balanced.
@alexandrupopescu9503
@alexandrupopescu9503 6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter if she is doing doing this for a higher purpose or not, she is evil.She was always evil, ever since she killed the human that helped her in Warcraft 3.She is definately not horde material.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
I think shes certainly not evil - even if her actions are
@johenkay1129
@johenkay1129 6 жыл бұрын
She is for the survival of the horde.. And for a horde player that is the only line she should not cross. "All is fair in love and war".
@dvklaveren
@dvklaveren 6 жыл бұрын
In more ways than one. Garrosh gave into hero worship; all that he did was to prove that he was a hero of the Horde. Everything became a deed of greatness under Garrosh. But Sylvanas doesn't care about any of that. She has integrated some of Garrosh' traits, but she's also learned from him. Honor is actually bad for the Horde. Thrall literally handicapped Orgrimmar deliberately, because Thrall wanted to teach orcs how to work to achieve greatness. Orgrimmar has become an import hub for this reason; it is dependent on import. And therefore, it is dependent on good relations with the surrounding area. But what if good relations stop? Like with the night elves? What if the Alliance attempt to siege Orgrimmar? Then Orgrimmar is compromised. It is too hard to defend and it's not able to function without imports. Sylvanas knows all this and rather than seeing this as a reason to be cautious, she sees this as a reason to be ahead of the curve of everyone else. In the novels, it is clear that she actually has come to appreciate what honor is. She appreciates great warriors, even Saurfang, even Thrall. But she also knows that honor and hero worship and martyrdom have crippled the Horde. And not that Azerite is here, war is inevitable. Greymane will eventually come for the Undercity. If Greymane comes for the Undercity, the orcs, tauren and blood elves would have to defend the Undercity. Which would mean that Silvermoon is compromised or that the night elves can attempt to assault Darnassus. The moment that the Horde is reactive, is the moment that the Horde has lost. So Sylvanas has to stay ahead at any moment. When Saurfang fails to kill Malfurion, Darnassus is lost. Sylvanas wanted to maintain honor. She gave Saurfang explicit orders to protect the honor of the Horde and take Teldrassil honorably, so that war could be ended before it could begin. Saurfang failed her in that, which means that, now, the Horde has to play by Sylvanas terms. Now, it's no holds bar war. The Horde has to win or it will be destroyed. It's delicious. Sylvanas gives characters choices every step of the way and each time, they find themselves having to choose the utilitarian option and follow Sylvanas' cold, calculated logic (fueled by Azerite). But it also shows that sometimes that doesn't work in Sylvanas' favor, or the Horde's favor and sometimes, it doesn't go as Sylvanas might have originally wanted. Saurfang chooses to stay behind and die with honor. Sylvanas chose to give Saurfang that choice and Saurfang chose to die. It's delicious and brilliant and I love it.
@GamesandNonsenseUnleashed
@GamesandNonsenseUnleashed 6 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas gets amusement from the anger, sorrow, reactions of others. You see this with Summermoon in Darkshore and a few times with Anduin. Sylvanas likes when they fight back, keep trying ... makes breaking them all the sweeter. Sylvanas has more in common with Arthas than she wants to admit. When she does, we may see a redemption/sacrifice arch ... and her becoming a tragic savior.
@marcohernandez2519
@marcohernandez2519 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with your theory, just remember what Sylvanas says in the 2017 BfA intro: “...and we forget what makes strong”. This “unnecesary” War is just a warm up for the next expantion... the old gods-void Lords.
@munley01
@munley01 6 жыл бұрын
You killed it once again. Fantastic reaction. Screw all the haters that say the storyline is bad. I think there is so much depth in where their taking the story. I cant wait to see what's next. This was AMAZING!
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Travis! I cant wait to see where Blizz takes us!
@FutayuriShironeko
@FutayuriShironeko 6 жыл бұрын
You are like the only Ally "Reactor" who isn't: "Fucking Sylvanas is evil put here down", she has so much depth, she's not one dimentional villian as many want to believe and that's why it's very exciting right now after 14 yrs of loyalty to her to see her being so damn cool and strategically deceptive. Brings a of joy into my as a strategic thinker eye:D Let's see how badass Sylvanas will be in later storyline. For the Banshee Queen!!!
@meatarianrunner
@meatarianrunner 6 жыл бұрын
100% agree with this! "We have forgotten what makes us strong." War! I can't wait to see what is next.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Steven James yes! You get it!
@HmmWelp
@HmmWelp 6 жыл бұрын
At the very least you can't really say the story is bad when we don't know more than the prologue yet. I'm really hoping they don't make her a real villain. I'm hoping she does something redeeming, then ste0s down as w archief once her plan is done.
@Vgpl0
@Vgpl0 6 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas is playing Anduin. The Alliance suffered heavy losses at both Tel and Undercity compared to the Horde. She's playing on them being vengeful and hateful because those are two states of being she knows well and can capitalize off of.
@gonzalonavarro9584
@gonzalonavarro9584 6 жыл бұрын
remember when Arthas came back to Lordaeron? walking for that main road, where he stoped for a moment, looked up and then pushed that big doors with that violence... To think about it :D
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Almost exactly like Anduin - the type of person Arthas could have been 😎
@exortium2827
@exortium2827 5 жыл бұрын
One thing I haven't seen people mention. In the Horde version, Anduin's sword has red blood, in the Alliance version it's black blood. I think that's sort of a "we have different perspectives on what he is killing" thing.
@markrepollo6465
@markrepollo6465 6 жыл бұрын
My theory : she is an undead hateful hopeless bch of an elf and I want justice for teldrasil
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Works for me!
@jamiehughesful
@jamiehughesful 6 жыл бұрын
Your reactions are amazing ... YEAH JAINA !!!
@ryanpagel426
@ryanpagel426 6 жыл бұрын
I think she is just grateful for a worthy opponent.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't see that grin when Malfurion was kicking her ass..
@hahaxdd313
@hahaxdd313 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome reaction. Also, love the shaved look! You look great.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! These cinematics were incredible. And thanks - i feel naked and cold 😂
@Myrdden71
@Myrdden71 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@SirDoots
@SirDoots 6 жыл бұрын
As a Deathknight, seeing Sylvanas raise the dead made me proud.
@geodageo
@geodageo 5 жыл бұрын
pay attention to Jaina's reacton at 3:39 when Anduin says 'you put the torch to Teldrassil', she was like 'the fuck?!'
@delilahmills7192
@delilahmills7192 5 жыл бұрын
I always knew she was a frost mage, had I known of her back story in Kul Tiras, it would have made much more sense that she is also a water mage, Jaina is back with a vengeance, love that ship and those arcane cannons are totally awesome.
@songbai2322
@songbai2322 5 жыл бұрын
If you fly back to Lordaeron as a holy priest, and suicide in the fog of poison, your passive Spirit of Redemption can be killed repeatedly, thus you will never die unless you cancel the buff on your own. Plus, if you have the revive debuff from the graveyard, you suffer much less damage in the poison which can be easily healed up. Then you will find the elevators are blocked.
@PandoraNYC1
@PandoraNYC1 6 жыл бұрын
Siege of Orgrimar 2.0 here we come! IT IS ON!!! FOR THE ALLIANCE! Edit: I agree with your theory. If you recall during the scenario, the part called 'Blast', if she wanted to kill Anduin she had him dead in her sights and could have easily shot him with a black arrow, but instead shoots a blight wagon. I really can't wait for next week to see how all of this starts to unfold. I still think she's evil as f**k, but it's obvious she's got alot of plans...especially for Anduin.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
It could even be something as simple as - she wants to raise him as a champion. Shes dark enough for that
@Mystra
@Mystra 6 жыл бұрын
Love your thinking of Sylvanas and Anduin. Interesting theory.
@kushtakathenomad8385
@kushtakathenomad8385 6 жыл бұрын
your theory holds ground, in the beggining of the BFA cinematic you hear her say. "we have forgotten, what made us strong." that smirk looks like a blacksmith admiring his newly forged blade
@kushtakathenomad8385
@kushtakathenomad8385 6 жыл бұрын
also from what i can tell. Fel-Light-Undead-Void-Life-?????-Magic-Fel. Fel beats light, Paladins got owned during legion, light kills undead, easy, undead beating void is speculation, but the void panicked when it saw the banshee queen, void beats life, easy. Life beats something which beats magic. magic beats fel, look at how much legion died by magic hands.
@Ower8x
@Ower8x 6 жыл бұрын
Jaina upgraded her Arcane Missiles to Daughter of the Sea OP version .... Beware, Beware indeed. Also the w3 parallels hit the nostalgia feels .... also the VA were superb ..... Anduin had such a resemblance to Varian when he shouted out .. The line when he says she lead the Horde to a place without honor is very interesting as it mirrors Varians promise to the Horde at the end of Ogrimmar ... If your Horde fails to uphold honor as Garosh did we will end you ....
@Firribarra
@Firribarra 6 жыл бұрын
It´s an interesting idea. In fact she said in the cinematic trailer of BFA "... Alliances forged and broken, we have paid the price for sharing this world...and we have forgotten what makes us strong..." perhaps she doesn´t refer to the Horde...but to the alliance between the two factions, what makes Azeroth strong.... and for that she need to transform Anduin into a "Warrior King".
@ZurielWraithblades
@ZurielWraithblades 6 жыл бұрын
I thought up to your theory it was Sylvanas even with influence or info from Bolvar of threat to come with Void Lords and old gods. Perhaps given Bolvar's history with Varian and Andiun, they (Syl and Bol) are building Horde and Alliance for that war. That would make all this morally grey and very interesting.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Right?? Could you imagine if her and Bolvar were in contact? I don't see why they couldn't be if he was able to talk to Death Knights...
@ZurielWraithblades
@ZurielWraithblades 6 жыл бұрын
We never really did see the 4 horsemen used in Legion, could be the new Lich King is planning afew steps ahead.
@nealsandy4873
@nealsandy4873 6 жыл бұрын
The mirror of Arthas and Anduin entering Lordaeron is amazing!
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@MasteroGaming
@MasteroGaming 6 жыл бұрын
ur thoughts and speculation about sylvanas has given me hope and I would really really really love if bfa turned to like sylvanas doing all this to make a good king powerfull to stand against the upcoming old gods... id like blizz to hear ur speculation its really nice
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
I dont know how much weight is has - but I think something is going on there.
@mielliot13
@mielliot13 6 жыл бұрын
It just occurred to me, people tend to see Sylvannas' tactics are devious and honor-less (they are, but they are effective), and tend to blame her being an evil undead for it. But when she was guarding the Sunwell from Arthas her main repertoire was inflicting massive casualties to the enemies armies with traps while giving ground to wear them out.
@HmmWelp
@HmmWelp 6 жыл бұрын
"The boy king serves at the masters table" "Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it."
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
BUT WHAT DOES IT MEANNNN
@brassspeck3673
@brassspeck3673 6 жыл бұрын
Missildine Online! Nothing, the old gods lie and deceive to achieve their goals, stop believing liked they’d actually help their enemies by giving them tips or telling them their true goal
@brassspeck3673
@brassspeck3673 6 жыл бұрын
God ,way too many people take the words of the old gods as truths
@-Miasimon
@-Miasimon 6 жыл бұрын
*If* Sylvannas is training Anduin to become stronger, it's not for the reason you're thinking. Not to make the Alliance stronger, but to make the figurehead of the faction seem powerful enough that the rest of his people can lean on him for support. Break that support and everything that it supported will fall.
@lbGuillaume
@lbGuillaume 6 жыл бұрын
I think it was more of an arrogant smile than anything else. She knows that even if she lost Lordaeron, she still won the battle by blighting it, and seeing the Alliance getting frustrated gave her satisfaction.
@EijiShinjo48
@EijiShinjo48 6 жыл бұрын
Nathanos was like "What i gonna choose Honor or Sex?" 🤔 Sex of course 🤗 Nathanos did the right choice 😎
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
BOIIIII
@MataZombis
@MataZombis 6 жыл бұрын
Are we all forgetting about the staff Gallywix gave to Sylvanas? What if that staff makes you see things that cannot be seen, like corruption? What if the foking tree was corrupted by nzoth and sylvanas knew? Just to everyone hating on Sylvanas, she will shut ur mouth very hard. Lok'tar Hogar, victory or die
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely possible! Although I DO think Sylvanas would tell people that.
@JulioCoudio
@JulioCoudio 6 жыл бұрын
I'm 100% Horde but that Jaina... damn ! I don't know about Sylvanas, but I'm pretty sure she is the key of the extension. Remember the cinematic trailer, her words at the opening "We forgotten what makes us strong". War, it's war that always make us strong. I don't know what she knows, but something terrible is coming, maybe even worst that the cataclysm... I can't wait for the Azshara short !
@Ghost51325
@Ghost51325 6 жыл бұрын
In the battle for azeroth trailer she does say something "we have forgotten what makes us strong" so maybe so. Kool theory
@papabonedaddy4116
@papabonedaddy4116 6 жыл бұрын
When she said to Nathanos you know what to do....I thought she wanted to kill baine
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
So looking back I actually wonder what exactly that was. Was it to set up the bombs? I feel like he could do that with any bow.
@papabonedaddy4116
@papabonedaddy4116 6 жыл бұрын
I think she handed him the bow just to hold it for her.
@papabonedaddy4116
@papabonedaddy4116 6 жыл бұрын
he hands it back to her on the ship
@wolfstar_productions
@wolfstar_productions 6 жыл бұрын
I do not think so... I think she is going to have Nathanos take him out.
@juneg9547
@juneg9547 6 жыл бұрын
More like "hold my purse " equivalent.
@TheMaxCloud
@TheMaxCloud 6 жыл бұрын
7:46 In spanish (idk about other languages) Baine when he was going away he kepth saying "And for Saurfang"
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Ooooh that'd be neat
@TheMaxCloud
@TheMaxCloud 6 жыл бұрын
yeah, I hope it actually means we will get saurfang as warchief.
@Keyblader001
@Keyblader001 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think Sylvanas is really prepping him, but I do think that this is the old god expansion, and will be revealed in 8.1, at Blizzcon. And I think since Anduin is essentially pure light, Sylvanas will somehow do a self sacrifice to save Anduin, so he can lead the forces of Azeroth against the old gods. That way Blizzard can say she's redeemed.
@mongobaracuda
@mongobaracuda 6 жыл бұрын
Love Sylvanas. "...to me, this horde is worth saving".
@rarewock
@rarewock 6 жыл бұрын
It is, Saurfang believes to much in honour, it is worth saving even if not with honour. does saurfang wish to see all the horde leaders die that die?
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Shes a really awesome character
@BulanuRoz
@BulanuRoz 6 жыл бұрын
all we need now is for anduin and sylvanas to get stuck somewhere and they must work together to escape
@stonesworth5035
@stonesworth5035 6 жыл бұрын
Well done my dude!!
@DarkLordVeil26
@DarkLordVeil26 6 жыл бұрын
In my point of view Sylvanas knows Queen Azshara, N'zoth and many more Evil things tip Void are coming, i think she's preparing Both Factions for another War. Don forget Vol'jin choosed Sylvanas for Warchief and he said "Many will not Understand also he said Sylvanas could be the one who will save us" ;)
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
I agree - and I think MAYBE the world trees are sources of power for old gods? Or can be?
@kitsonlim833
@kitsonlim833 6 жыл бұрын
This scene makes me think hard of your theory and the previous scene where sylvanas remember her past while she burns down teldrassil, she could be potentially preparing the young king Anduin, making him not to follow his human predecessor footsteps like arthas did during Warcraft 3. Currently there's no other villains that could be alliance threat than horde, so this could be an interesting way to make Anduin a better leader of alliance.
@alexanderrichardson2686
@alexanderrichardson2686 6 жыл бұрын
That nod to the 'Arthus' Betrayal' cinematic tho
@AlesMicik
@AlesMicik 6 жыл бұрын
"Talk, talk, talk! Always you speak, never do you listen. You ignore the lessons of Pandaria. You see there is balance in all things. Wisdom edged in our very fur. Black and white. Darkness and light. So it is with your Alliance and your Horde. They're not strong despite one another, they are strong because of one another. You mistake your greatest strength for weakness." Maybe, Sylvanas knows Anduin is son of Arthas (just a speculation) and she want to make better men out of him for the comming battle against the shadow. Maybe... or maybe it's just like you say. She just want to make him strong king.
@paulmaspil9563
@paulmaspil9563 6 жыл бұрын
Sylvannas is seemingly like Kerrigan, the Queen of Blades. Though the Alliance need to rid of her, I think that there is so much more in play here - and I think that she will play a significant role to it. She is just so paradoxical that she both confirms and denies all theories about her and what she is doing.
@insulareshdxo9454
@insulareshdxo9454 6 жыл бұрын
That’s also my reaction when Jaina appeared:)
@rahatpradhan7913
@rahatpradhan7913 6 жыл бұрын
Wow Jaina I love her
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Me. Too.
@szabolcsmolnar4455
@szabolcsmolnar4455 6 жыл бұрын
I can't see her consciously trying to strengthen the factions, but I can see her having a role in saving them down the line in some way. Maybe she will have to do something terrible for it, and we will have to learn that our survival is truly the most important thing, no matter the costs. It would actually give her some depth.
@HighShepherdLopes
@HighShepherdLopes 6 жыл бұрын
It's not "I'm proud of you" it's more of her playing the long game. She has the best interest of the horde and the forsaken at heart. In the three sisters comic the void whispers desperately, asking for the death of sylvannas because she was the true enemy. Pyromancer explains that the light needs life to feed off of, but when they starve they become void creatures. Void need life to feed off of too. If everything dies or is undead it can't be touched by either an therefore the light and shadow both die. If she is able to control the world, she will feel safer releasing the plague and if she does that. Everything dies, giving her the ultimate enemy of light and shadow. Or at least that's how I interpreted his theories about this subject. I think you may have a point where sylvannas is letting the little lion grow stronger so that she can feel the thrill of war that makes her feel alive again or she's preparing for another greater threat. Ex. Queen Azhara and the old gods
@mohammadmezher8987
@mohammadmezher8987 6 жыл бұрын
Best fukin reaction...hahahhaa subbed. Sylvanas 1 v 4 and she didn't even care...luckily jaina saved their asses 2 times 3rd time will be a genn kill at least
@BReal985
@BReal985 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that horde YTers laugh at the Jaina scene and some call it comic as they do that because they don't have a hero as powerful as her (in terms of magic). Bad days for horde for sure. Loved the cinematics.
@grizwold3980
@grizwold3980 6 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas says "This Horde is worth saving" and yet, she fucking bombed her own soldiers.
@Retnoob
@Retnoob 5 жыл бұрын
Your reaction is pretty much exactly mine
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 5 жыл бұрын
Good reaction! 😉
@Anlushac11
@Anlushac11 6 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas did not respect Anduin, she has repeatedly expressed her opinion that he is a boy trying to play King. But Anduin is very smart and a fast learner and he is earning Sylvanas's respect.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Idk. That smirk.
@ReptarTheUgly
@ReptarTheUgly 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit... she’s making everyone hate her so they leave the horde and join the alliance to unify everyone and save Azeroth... daamn
@kronniichiwa9909
@kronniichiwa9909 6 жыл бұрын
Justice for the Alliance ! For King Wrynn!
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
FOR THE ALLIANCE!
@PreigarsTV
@PreigarsTV 6 жыл бұрын
Vol'jin can't be wrong about making her warchief
@TheCematrixX
@TheCematrixX 6 жыл бұрын
I think Sylvannas is just being cheeky
@jneff6456
@jneff6456 6 жыл бұрын
The problem with your theory is that Blizzard rarely delves into anything approaching nuance or subtlety in writing their core story-lines... so rare, in fact, one might say they never do it. Blizzard tends to find the most trope-tastic, stereotypical story ideas and brute-forces them into the core cannon.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I really disagree, having read almost all of Blizzard's books. Which, btw, I would recommend if you are only seeing the games story. Tides of War and Before the Storm in particular and VERY good.
@bryangmainerich7587
@bryangmainerich7587 6 жыл бұрын
Your theory is interesting. Think of this Stlvanas has spent some time in the presence of Arthas as the lich king. She knows the current one may have good intentions but that will not last. Bolth the horde and the alliance will need strong leaders and ones they respect. She could be staging this to make both come to pass. With either Saurfang or Baine as a second choice for the horde warchief.
@MadPandaSHP
@MadPandaSHP 6 жыл бұрын
She's the kerrigan of WoW
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
I think so too
@MadPandaSHP
@MadPandaSHP 6 жыл бұрын
Part of me hopes that wrathion shows up, allying himself with sylvanas and this whole plan was just him convincing her to make anduin stronger. His only request is that she killed alleria (someone who has given herself up to the void), but when the time came to kill her (in the short comic blizz released), sylvanas decided not to (maybe out of old memories of the 3 of them, or maybe because vareesa was there). It would make more sense he would be present in a more old god expansion instead of being obsessed with defeating the legion. I mean the old gods were the reason his father was corrupted, thus his entire flight.
@jakimgamesroleplay8486
@jakimgamesroleplay8486 6 жыл бұрын
From what I understand, regardless of her personality, the strategy is to draw the attention of the Kalimdor Alliance, providing that the Azerbaijani is withdrawn faster, with no setbacks, and with success. In a war, strategically poorly placed cities must be sacrificed for the benefit of maintaining more resources. In the case, it gave great oxygen to the tactical formation in the defense of Kalimdor, in addition to keeping the machine of war of the Horde focused and without distractions. She opened two combat fronts, directing the enemy army and leaving them a little stunned. Sacrificing your own city, theoretically, is a way to show strength along with the rest of the Horde leaders, clearly stating your total commitment and the extent to which it will lead to this war. She will not accept lesser sacrifice than what she is doing. Losing Lordaeron means nothing before a mobilization to invade Silithus would be delayed, even more so now.
@johnhalo8726
@johnhalo8726 6 жыл бұрын
Sylvanis is doing the alliance a favour. I bet she had a talk with Varian.
@yellowsocks2835
@yellowsocks2835 6 жыл бұрын
Dude this shit gets better and better. I can't wait till the expansion. Btw I'm all for Saurfang and whatnot, but was it just not cool shit that Sylvanas basically shut down him and his honor. Like she straight up told him, You can help us or I will make a minion of you and help us. I thought that was sooooo Sylvanas right there
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Oh dude it was awesome! She was brutal AND correct. Oof.
@ninjack11
@ninjack11 6 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas response to losing Lordaeron "RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
@IronwolfSOF
@IronwolfSOF 6 жыл бұрын
You're the first one i've watched that didn't complain about Jainas entrance.. They can't wrap their head around ... (MAGIC) Dalaran has been floating for years and their like huh what how silly lel.. freaking people and their shallow brains.
@Raktus
@Raktus 6 жыл бұрын
Sylvanas is winning for one important reason... She is bleeding the Alliance with multiple engagements that she is forcing them to enter haphazardly. When Sylvanas loses troops, they become undead and rise again to serve. When the Alliance loses troops, they stay dead... or worse, rise again to serve the Forsaken. When she attacked the World Tree, she inflicted losses on the Alliance. When the Alliance sieged Lordaron, she drew them into a protracted battle and killed as many of their troops as she could before getting away. The loss of territory may be 1:1, but the loss of manpower weighs in her favor... IMHO.
@giovannicasini465
@giovannicasini465 6 жыл бұрын
Raktus but...we got Jaina and Alleria. You have a bull and a banshee. Do you Call this an Even fight? 😂
@humaNNNbeast
@humaNNNbeast 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone recognized the "hold on" from Khadgar's "I've got them". I feel a connection of some sorf there, that either or Jaina wont Khadgar wont let us know about. I think the Kirin Tor is stronger than we think, in a good way.
@FosterKittensttv
@FosterKittensttv 6 жыл бұрын
Will definitely be interesting to see what happens at launch next week.
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
I CANT WAIT. 6 DAYS FOSTER 6 DAYS
@FosterKittensttv
@FosterKittensttv 6 жыл бұрын
Missildine Online! I’ll be in Denver 😭 I won’t be able to play till night time.
@RAZORlukic
@RAZORlukic 6 жыл бұрын
Can you read my theory about all this? ... I feel like Jaina's reaction to Andruins words is like... surprise then sadness, and I also feel like she recalls Arthas at this moment. As we all know Arthas was her life at some point, and we all know how that ended and we all know that Arthas was young and felt TOO much of a connection with his people. The moment Mel'ganis starts to turn the humans into Undead, Arthas slowly begins to blame himself, which is exactly what Anduin is doing right now. Feelings of love can me strongly twisted into rage and hate, like with the Lich King. The way Sylvanas talks to Anduin is as if she is playing with his mind, like she knows something. So my theory is that maybe just maybe, Sylvanas is making Anduin go Arthas's life path, BUT this time for the good while she plays the evil Lich king.
@Predator5992
@Predator5992 6 жыл бұрын
what is that addon called that creates these little dialogue windows with the characters for the questtext? thanks in advance
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Storyline!
@Mrfiufaufou
@Mrfiufaufou 6 жыл бұрын
#mywarchief
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Like, literally tree huggers.
@chaoticrager1722
@chaoticrager1722 6 жыл бұрын
I don't see a "I am proud of you Anduin" look on her face at all, she already called him a boy playing soldiers, she doesn't think much of Anduin as leader or a king for the Alliance, it was more of a "I got the better of you again, boy" kinda smirk....but I am Horde, maybe that's just my version of it......but to go along with your version, it could be right in the long run for Sylvanas because she can raise more to be her Forsaken. But no, she is doing this to preserve the Horde, to be more powerful and everlasting....no way would her sisters fight alongside her, there is too much hate and loathing so I doubt there will ever be a joining together permanently of Alliance and Horde, otherwise there be no World of Warcraft to play for except maybe killing more Legion or an old God or 2, But I love Jaina is now badass, even as horde, I say to her BRING IT! FOR SYLVANAS!!
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
It could absolutely be that. But why does she do the same smirk during the BfA cinematic? Dont forget - she probably feels guilty for Varian. And we know she dwells on her feelings a lot
@Andarielen
@Andarielen 6 жыл бұрын
In that case, he just wants to provoke him to act (this is probably what this theory is all about). Thinks one thing, says the other.
@thinhvo3893
@thinhvo3893 6 жыл бұрын
Chaotic Rager In the novel it stated that she think of Anduin nothing more than a cub. Her encountering with him has been sarcastic with little to no respect for him and literally making fun of him in Arathi highland. She however did has more respect toward Varian because all and all Varian was a strong ruler.
@sunandankaul1232
@sunandankaul1232 6 жыл бұрын
What if she's maKing7herself the common enemy to unite the horde and the alliance?
@klocka88
@klocka88 6 жыл бұрын
So since jaina can just wave her arms a bit and poof, no more blight, im guessing they will rebuild and make that into a new alliance city? :D
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
It only froze the blight. It thaws and is back...but maybe a lightforged forsaken faction could make their home there...
@aislingyngaio
@aislingyngaio 6 жыл бұрын
What if Sylvanas' smirk is like "oh yea, Anduin is properly riled up. Number of incoming Forsaken = $$$$". If Alliance and Horde wars endure, the only winner will be Sylvanas, as she will have more and more "raw mats" for new Forsaken.
@Dan-iw7bh
@Dan-iw7bh 6 жыл бұрын
Honor is not everything, but without Honor everything is nothing.
@marcofigueroa7131
@marcofigueroa7131 6 жыл бұрын
Anduin was the prince that was promised and now is a King.
@KageNoTenshi
@KageNoTenshi 6 жыл бұрын
A week ago I said, anyone with half a brain could see the alliance gathering everything they had for this siege, and if it was me I set a trap, and guess what?
@stelamion
@stelamion 6 жыл бұрын
BADASS wow all time : 1- Illidan 2- Sylvanas
@MissildineOnline
@MissildineOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Um hi you are forgetting Jaina
@grenmond7984
@grenmond7984 6 жыл бұрын
1- Arthas*
@animewarrior3
@animewarrior3 6 жыл бұрын
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