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6 жыл бұрын

On the Western Front this week, the Canadians under Sir Arthur Currie attempt to advance once more, whilst Haig remains optimistic about an imminent breakthrough. Following Caporetto, the Italian retreat continues, whilst the British Army enjoys success on the Palestine Front, with a little help from mounted ANZAC troops. With Lenin’s return, the revolution looms over the Russian capital, whilst the Balfour Declaration is issued in Britain.
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@Isildun9
@Isildun9 6 жыл бұрын
Cadorna: My men do not even know the meaning of the word retreat! The Italian soldiers: But we're willing to learn!
@T33K3SS3LCH3N
@T33K3SS3LCH3N 6 жыл бұрын
"How far have the Italian soldiers retreated today?" "20 km, just like they will tomorrow." "How can you know that?" "That's how far a tired German soldier can walk in one day." - damn this joke can be used for so many fronts.
@ChevyChase301
@ChevyChase301 6 жыл бұрын
Thomas H. Germans made up half of the Alliance men at Caperetto
@canpiv09
@canpiv09 6 жыл бұрын
Surprising to see that reference here. Nice.
@Grissbane
@Grissbane 6 жыл бұрын
The Captain was actually Japanese, but was really dedicated to his role as he was accidentally drafted during the war. To support this he had a man following him around punctuating all his sentences with spanish guitar
@sparkyfromel
@sparkyfromel 6 жыл бұрын
it's a fact that during WW1 and WW2 Italian soldiers fought with bravery and well when well led , which was rarely , it's hard to be a willing sacrifice when send to your death by stupid pigs
@sammccullough1255
@sammccullough1255 6 жыл бұрын
Luigi Cadorna: the type of guy that is in charge of a class project, but didn't do any of the work. And when the group failed their project, he blames everyone, but himself.
@christianweibrecht6555
@christianweibrecht6555 6 жыл бұрын
Sam McCullough he seems to be a standard moba player
@kadencalleberg
@kadencalleberg 4 жыл бұрын
Dominic Tee exactly
@ryanboscoe9670
@ryanboscoe9670 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominict9325 bit sad that you are still so nationalistic in this day and age... I understand where you are coming from, but sadly that doesn't work in this day and age...
@ryanboscoe9670
@ryanboscoe9670 2 жыл бұрын
@@dominict9325 any questions and I'll show you are wrong.
@craigmason9893
@craigmason9893 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanboscoe9670 :/
@deitona06
@deitona06 6 жыл бұрын
Wait,what? No more Isonzo river`s batlles? But...but...Cadorna ...i will miss him...like i miss Conrad von -Something-Dorf!
@blankblank6545
@blankblank6545 6 жыл бұрын
The Politicly correct term is Conrad von Hötzendorf
@netserivry5561
@netserivry5561 6 жыл бұрын
Petyo22 Hötzendorf
@deitona06
@deitona06 6 жыл бұрын
I know,but it was easier to write Something,instead of Ho:tz
@nirfz
@nirfz 6 жыл бұрын
"ö" can legaly be substituted by "oe" ;-)
@CarlosRios1
@CarlosRios1 6 жыл бұрын
I ship HötzendorfXCadorna
@tommasorucci4088
@tommasorucci4088 6 жыл бұрын
Little interesting anecdote that an Italian friend once told me, Luigi Cadorna after the Austrians breakthrough blamed officially on all Italian newspapers the second and third army for their cowardice and betrayal of the nation. The Austrians took advantage of this situations and dropped thousands of leaflets on Italian trenches still resisting showing the article Cadorna had written about the army. This only discouraged and demoralized further the last Italian sacks of resistance on the southern front, that often just deserted or mutinied against their superiors.
@raygiordano1045
@raygiordano1045 6 жыл бұрын
The beatings will stop when morale improves.
@petergray2712
@petergray2712 6 жыл бұрын
Ray Giordano Cadorna had the habit of shooting his soldiers on charges of cowardice. He even brought back the Roman custom of decimation for an entire battalion deemed underperforming. Nothing like a bloody martinet to destroy morale (course the French weren't much better)
@rashkavar
@rashkavar 3 жыл бұрын
@@petergray2712 The decimation thing is actually widely debated - there's one specific instance where a company of the 141st Catanzaro Infantry Brigade mutinied, killing officers, carabinieri (police, possibly military police, not sure), and other soldiers - where he endorsed a decimation - killing 12 of the 120 mutineers - in a telegram. But even there, there's no documentation about who proposed that idea, just that he signed off on it. That's not to say he was a competent leader, either in the realm of inspiring his men or in the realm of actually coming up with effective strategies. History seems much more clear on that matter. Also, it is worth noting in that specific instance of decimation, that kind of mutiny where it involves the murder of both their superior officers and comrades in arms is both extremely rare and the kind of thing that brings exceedingly harsh punishments. Looking at the United States Uniform Code of Military Justice, it seems pretty clear that the sentence for that mutiny in the modern US Army could be the execution of all 120 men - even if most of them just stood by while a couple of agitators did all the murdering, they'd still be guilty under section a3. That said, I expect there would be a court martial of each man involved, which it seems there was not in the Italian case, and the court martial might opt for a lesser sentence. Here's the law defining mutiny, sedition, and the acceptable punishment for them: Art. 94. (§ 894.) 2004 Mutiny or Sedition. (a) Any person subject to this code (chapter) who- (1) with intent to usurp or override lawful military authority, refuses, in concert with any other person, to obey orders or otherwise do his duty or creates any violence or disturbance is guilty of mutiny; (2) with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority, creates, in concert with any other person, revolt, violence, or other disturbance against that authority is guilty of sedition; (3) fails to do his utmost to prevent and suppress a mutiny or sedition being committed in his presence, or fails to take all reasonable means to inform his superior commissioned officer or commanding officer of a mutiny or sedition which he knows or has reason to believe is taking place, is guilty of a failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition. (b) A person who is found guilty of attempted mutiny, mutiny, sedition, or failure to suppress or report a mutiny or sedition shall be punished by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct.
@57WillysCJ
@57WillysCJ 6 жыл бұрын
They should have sent Haig to Palestine so he could have watched a cavalry charge that he always dreamed about. Then kept him there with the Camel Corps.
@difficultinterest1582
@difficultinterest1582 5 жыл бұрын
Haig probably would've had a spat because of Australians and New Zealanders were the ones leading the charge cause "moi imperialism"
@PopeSixtusVI
@PopeSixtusVI 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot the part where Indiana Jones halted the demolition of the wells in Beersheba by cutting the wires, saving the Australians from a massive plague of heat casualties.
@VladTevez
@VladTevez 6 жыл бұрын
And Catherine Zeta Jones and Daniel Craig failed to stop him
@anti-loganpaul7827
@anti-loganpaul7827 3 жыл бұрын
Most of that was stolen footage from The Lighthorsemen movie
@steelhammer103
@steelhammer103 6 жыл бұрын
The Balfour Declaration reminds me of Loyd George's promise to the British people that Jerusalem would be captured by Christmas as a Christmas present.
@NerevarOfficialReal
@NerevarOfficialReal 6 жыл бұрын
He never said which Christmas.
@hughtrotter9739
@hughtrotter9739 6 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather was in the charge at Beersheba, I get chills every time I hear the story told and feel massive pride and awe at what the men and horses achieved. Being classed as mounted infantry, I believe was key to the success of the charge. Reports I’ve read say that the Turkish rifles and field gun sights were still set at long range as they expected the light horsemen to dismount and fight on foot.
@crazygrainger2006
@crazygrainger2006 6 жыл бұрын
I was in Beersheba for the centenary of the battle. I was in the Australian Marching Band leading 100 riders through the streets of the city.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
cool!
@user-wh5ox3cz3c
@user-wh5ox3cz3c 7 ай бұрын
​@@TheGreatWarWas Australia's victory. Allenby stole it
@kendomyers
@kendomyers 4 жыл бұрын
I was a water officer, a logistical position, in an Army SPO staff In WW1 the Americas brought up diatomaceous earth water filters and chlorinators on trucks to filter then disinfect the water on the western front, which saved a lot of lives Not as effective as the reverse osmosis we use today, but it was streets ahead of what was used previously
@poppymaca
@poppymaca 6 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see a special on the Battle of Beersheba, but that’s me being a patriotic Aussie
@someaussieguy140
@someaussieguy140 6 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Mackay certainly one of the great ANZAC legends
@andrewstrongman305
@andrewstrongman305 5 жыл бұрын
For some reason, Indy doesn't want to really cover Australian forces. :(
@jackcohen4931
@jackcohen4931 5 жыл бұрын
If you ever go there they have the ANZAC Memorial Center.
@andrewjohnalexanderjordan3449
@andrewjohnalexanderjordan3449 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewstrongman305 Aussie must have given him a some banter, forever coping
@andrewstrongman305
@andrewstrongman305 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisk7118 True, but there are countless acts of bravery shown by Aussie troops regardless of the odds faced. The Americans faced similar numbers at Ia Drang with 1,200 men as the Aussies did at Long Tan with just 109, yet we lost 18 men killed and 24 wounded compared to the 499 casualties taken by the Americans. Our history is largely unknown outside Australia and NZ. We've done extraordinary things that most people will never know about, unless people like Indy take an interest.
@husarodelrey2159
@husarodelrey2159 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! The Battle of Beersheba is one of my favourite episodes in the Great War. I keep re-watching this scene from the 1990 film, The Lighthorsemen. Also, *mounted infantry* charge
@biblebear8962
@biblebear8962 6 жыл бұрын
There's a cemetery for the fallen allied soldiers of the battle here in Beersheba, along with Allenby park, there were even a few events with veteran's families recently...
@Valdagast
@Valdagast 6 жыл бұрын
Apparently Haig still takes his advice from general Melchett.
@samarvora7185
@samarvora7185 5 жыл бұрын
Can't not like a Blackadder reference.
@prettydamngeneric
@prettydamngeneric 6 жыл бұрын
Those Light Horse fellows are the bravest of the brave!
@1969cmp
@1969cmp 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty awesome blokes. The1987 movie is worth grabbing a hold of. "The Lighthorsemen".
@wattlebough
@wattlebough 5 жыл бұрын
1969cmp Great movie! Influenced me greatly as a young teenager.
@basstfestivalvlogs7684
@basstfestivalvlogs7684 5 жыл бұрын
Horse charges are 100% safer then infantry charges they would b used still but they are made obsalite by barbed wire and the challenge of digging them in at strong points.
@lynndonharnell422
@lynndonharnell422 4 жыл бұрын
The last successful cavalry charge in History I believe.
@wattlebough
@wattlebough 4 жыл бұрын
Lynndon Harnell Last charge to have a decisive impact on the outcome of a major military theatre of war leading to the collapse of a centuries old empire.
@jmm_86
@jmm_86 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, thank you for this... just stumbled across this. Just mind blown dude! I have family and friends on both sides of the war... this is just awesome, speechless man
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 5 жыл бұрын
thanks and welcome to the show
@pocketfox743
@pocketfox743 6 жыл бұрын
My Great Grandfather (Edward Morgan) was in the Australian Lighthorse. He was in the attack on Beersheba and survived, but sadly tied back home in Australia in a mine collapse.
@wattlebough
@wattlebough 5 жыл бұрын
Re: the capture of Beersheba, please mention the Australian officers responsible, Brigadier Grant, 4th Brigade Australian Light Horse Commander, and Lt Gen Harry Chauvel commander of the Desert Mounted Corps, and senior officer of the Australian Light Horse. Gen Chauvel also played a critical role in the victory at the Battle of Megiddo in 1918, as all British and Empire Cavalry and Mounted infantry were under his command.
@wattlebough
@wattlebough 3 жыл бұрын
Superdude70 Brigadier Grant of the 4th ALH Brigade proposed the charge on Beersheba and Chauvel gave Grant his permission when British cavalry commander Fitzgerald questioned whether the ALH were an appropriate unit to execute a mounted charge.
@user-wh5ox3cz3c
@user-wh5ox3cz3c 7 ай бұрын
The British failed against the Turks. The Australian army liberated Palestine at Beersheba in 1917. The British got all the credit. Lots of false history. The German army was never defeated in WW1 either. The German government signed an armistice to cease hostilities.
@diegos1325
@diegos1325 6 жыл бұрын
[SPOILERS I GUESS] One more week until the Revolution...
@atombe2135
@atombe2135 6 жыл бұрын
spoilers
@williamlag7939
@williamlag7939 6 жыл бұрын
Diego Spranger my birthday is on the 7th of November, oh the joy
@MemestiffGaming
@MemestiffGaming 6 жыл бұрын
You silly communist! Russia's provisional government will hold strong and bring order back!
@franzfanz
@franzfanz 6 жыл бұрын
I agree those Bolsheviks have neither the organisation nor the popular support. Lenin will be rotting in a jail cell by the end of the year, you just watch.
@adamcuschieri5959
@adamcuschieri5959 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh thanks for spoiling the war
@GravesRWFiA
@GravesRWFiA 6 жыл бұрын
The attack on bersheeba was shown in the very good Australian film "The light horse" The charge itself was re-enacted this week in israel with around 100 australian and new zealanders. the only differnece-besides the fact the turks weren't killing htem, was men at the center of thel ine were carrying 3 colours. 1 australian, 1 new zealand, 1 israeli.
@David_Me825
@David_Me825 6 жыл бұрын
Whatever happens, but as there are a french saying: "Oh the vine, the cheese and grapes... our heritage. The war, the shells and bullets... its for the germans."
@skiteufr
@skiteufr 6 жыл бұрын
And yet, the French have the best military and victory record of any european nation. They can eat and drink and fight well it seems
@bobdiclson4173
@bobdiclson4173 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing will make you feel like a crusader like fighting horseback in the holyland
@milkywayexp
@milkywayexp 2 жыл бұрын
The italian retreat, perfectly described in "farewell to arms" by Ernest Hemingway.
@TalonAshlar
@TalonAshlar 6 жыл бұрын
THANKS SO MUCH FOR COVERING BEERSHEBA GUYS!
@hotcootaful
@hotcootaful 4 жыл бұрын
Important point that you made there regarding the American troops. The Allies had been learning the hard lessons since the start of the war. The Americans had to learn for themselves, but there was plenty of experience around from which to draw from. But were the U.S officers also to blame, were they unwilling to take instruction from from either the French, the English, the Australians, the Canadians, the Kiwis or whoever else? Was it a matter of 'We are Americans and we take instructions from no one'. That's my perception but I stand to be corrected.
@josephd.5524
@josephd.5524 6 жыл бұрын
The Americans refused to listen to advice given by the fighting nations. They chose to go in blind. The cost will be staggering.
@thanasispapadimopoulos3498
@thanasispapadimopoulos3498 6 жыл бұрын
Joseph D. Can you please enlighten me on this subject? I have read that the AEF was trained and equipped by British and French officers. Of course, as Indy points out, nothing compares to the harsh reality of modern wars' battles.
@24680kong
@24680kong 6 жыл бұрын
After all the other videos about the Americans trying to ensure they were properly trained before going into battle, you expect a single battalion's failure to be representative of the whole? What did they fail to do that the British and french and Germans and Russians were not still failing in?
@primevaltimes
@primevaltimes 6 жыл бұрын
John Doe I don't really think it's the soldiers' fault that they weren't properly equipped or trained.
@richardshort3914
@richardshort3914 6 жыл бұрын
*Thanasis Papadimopoulos* The late British military historian Sir Hew Strachan, wrote extensively on the First World War. In the 2003, 10-part Channel 4 series, _The First World War,_ based on his books, he quotes the record of a British officer lecturing the concepts and principles of trench warfare to a large group of US soldiers. When finished, the senior US officer thanked him, then turned to the troops and reminded them that what they'd just heard was from someone who'd been stuck in trenches for years and -- it was implied -- had no knowledge how to fight a war. And they, as Americans, -- it was also implied -- would show them how it was done. In the encounter being described in this week's installment, the US troops did not realize they were being 'boxed'. (The term for isolating a section of trench by artillery and keeping the defenders pinned down while a daylight raiding party dashed towards them. [That section of southern France was known to be 'quiet' and the ground was not chewed-up as it was elsewhere.]) Without experience or training that was given the seriousness it deserved, the troops were unaware a raid had commenced. They were, therefore, unequipped command-wise to offer a meaningful defence. ** Spoiler alert ** The results of inexperience, inadequate training and bravado are about to repeat themselves on a larger scale.
@thanasispapadimopoulos3498
@thanasispapadimopoulos3498 6 жыл бұрын
Richard Short thank you for the interesting information. I had no idea that American officers would order fighting in the open, 3 years after the massacre of the French army standing in line and wearing red trousers against machine-gun fire.
@Elmarby
@Elmarby 6 жыл бұрын
I hate to be overly critical but the Beersheba battle could have stood a slightly more detailed telling, it being such a well executed battle. Special mention to the field artillery seemingly beeing unusually well directed. The bulk of the fighting was done by infantry (prior to and away from Beersheba) or dismounted troops of the Desert Mounted Corps. The actual "cavalry" charge was only towards the close of the fighting with an opportunity spotted while time was growing too short to press home a dismounted attack before nightfall.
@lancerd4934
@lancerd4934 6 жыл бұрын
Elmarby it's a cool piece of military history, but it was a very small part of a global conflict involving millions of people, and the outcome was not especially significant to the outcome of the war on a macro scale. At the start of the video Indy gave a battle that killed ten times as many as participated in the charge less attention. These videos are really just the headlines for an entire week of conflict all over the world. They can't really afford to go in depth on any single event or battle since it would mean cutting coverage of something else: that's what the specials are for.
@petrameyer1121
@petrameyer1121 6 жыл бұрын
Just watch the move it is great!
@davididiart5934
@davididiart5934 6 жыл бұрын
It's tragic that tens or even hundreds of thousands of men's deaths can be so simply summarized, even in a Great War channel video meant to tell their tale. But THAT, is modern war...
@richardshort3914
@richardshort3914 6 жыл бұрын
*Petra Meyer* Agreed! I always get a kick out of the young Turkish officer who speaks fluent _Strine._
@Ben24626
@Ben24626 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Also he made it seem like the ozzies carried the load when in fact the nzers did the brunt of the heavy lifting
@yotamravid3159
@yotamravid3159 6 жыл бұрын
Be'er Sheva - Means seven well (water wells, of course), and is the biggest city in the south of Israel (The Capital Of The Desert)
@SamAronow
@SamAronow 6 жыл бұрын
Second biggest now that Ashdod has passed it up.
@100500daniel
@100500daniel 6 жыл бұрын
Ashdod is the biggest in the south beer sheva is the biggest in the Negev
@Cybermat47
@Cybermat47 6 жыл бұрын
A distant relative of mine, Scotty Bolton, was at Beersheeba. He was an Australian Light Horseman who managed to stop the Germans from destroying the water supplies, and captured a horse-drawn Ottoman artillery gun along with its crew.
@nathanroberts355
@nathanroberts355 10 ай бұрын
My great grandfather Thomas Joseph canny was a lighthorseman at Beersheba in the first world and he served with Australian 9th light horse regiment 3rd brigade at Beersheba in the first world war
@TheDustin151
@TheDustin151 6 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that we still have another year left of fighting. Plus the Americans haven’t started fighting yet. Such a terrible war.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 6 жыл бұрын
....did Pershing really weep? Like, did he not happen to read any newspaper articles these past years about what sort of war he was about to make his men wade balls-deep into?
@umjackd
@umjackd 6 жыл бұрын
I guess it's different once it actually happens. Makes sense.
@dernwine
@dernwine 6 жыл бұрын
I think he probably wept more over the way his men preformed in their first encounter rather than about what the battlefield was like (if he actually did weep that is).
@joehoe222
@joehoe222 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, for American standards, a massacre is easily obtained you know... *Coughcough* Boston *cough*
@oreroundpvp896
@oreroundpvp896 6 жыл бұрын
You sound a little mad at any criticism of American forces, maybe its high time you take a leaf out of your own book and stop being a immature whiny 'toddler'.
@blueycarlton
@blueycarlton 6 жыл бұрын
Weep? Of course not. Pershing was sending troops to their deaths on the morning of 11/11/1918. The US Senate even investigated his behaviour on Armistice Day before the inquiry was mysteriously stopped.
@LukeLibertyNoRulers
@LukeLibertyNoRulers 6 жыл бұрын
Really glazed over that Balfour Declaration. The results of that declaration are very important.
@richardshort3914
@richardshort3914 6 жыл бұрын
*Luke Liberty* Now, _that_ is an understatement!
@cpob2013
@cpob2013 6 жыл бұрын
not really since it came to nothing. the zionist movement only gets israel after ww2
@dominict9325
@dominict9325 6 жыл бұрын
In fairness, it was a VERY busy week and they can only cover so much in ten minutes.
@stupidturntable
@stupidturntable 6 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert..!
@sryan9547
@sryan9547 6 жыл бұрын
They talked about it in more detail in a special
@82dorrin
@82dorrin 6 жыл бұрын
WOOO!!! New Great War Video! *Drops absolutely everything else*
@ChristopherM720
@ChristopherM720 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this episode I had to stop and watch The Light Hosemen, the 87 Austrian film (part of their WW1 series including Gallipoli). Great movie (the soldier and nurse are based on real people), which includes the rouse by the intelligence officer and the charge. Worth watching! One of the few true "cavalry" charges that bring success in the war.
@brettfavreify
@brettfavreify 6 жыл бұрын
When you drive from the Brooding Soldier Monument at St. Julien - where the Canadians were first gassed in 1915 - to where the Canadians fought at Passendale in 1917, just a short distance away, it's shocking how much blood was shed for so little advance. That war was absolutely criminal.
@sparkyfromel
@sparkyfromel 6 жыл бұрын
that's about the worst , ten thousand men per miles
@sparkyfromel
@sparkyfromel 6 жыл бұрын
I walked to Compostella from Vezelay , that was 1600 kms , it occured to me that the French losses in dead and missing were about 1,6 millions and it would be one dead for each meter I walked , the path to Santiago took a somber tone , but in a way .....it was a remembrance to those long dead brothers
@chrispaterson1594
@chrispaterson1594 6 жыл бұрын
so proud of the Australian light horse
@TheDethBringer666
@TheDethBringer666 4 жыл бұрын
Haig probably shed a tear after hearing about that one.
@scroogemcfuck6486
@scroogemcfuck6486 6 жыл бұрын
When ever you talk about the Canadian troops I get excited because my great great grandfather fought in the Canadian army from 1914-1918
@monashsq4001
@monashsq4001 5 жыл бұрын
Beersheba the last successful cavalry charge in history, of course carried out by the Aussie lighthouse and those magnificent walers.
@Inkling777
@Inkling777 6 жыл бұрын
The Battle of Beersheba was dramatized in a marvelous 1987 movie, "The Lighthorsemen." You can watch an excerpt with charge of the Australia Fourth Light Horse here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bd-ljZen1N21epc.html
@dougvanderhoop8012
@dougvanderhoop8012 6 жыл бұрын
Michael W. Perry Thanks for the KZfaq link!
@tomburns5231
@tomburns5231 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a descendant of an Australian Light Horse officer who fought at Beersheba. I made a video in his memory about the full battle for those interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g96gY851y5axeIE.html
@drunkill
@drunkill 6 жыл бұрын
And also an episode of The Young Indiana Jones tv series, that episode takes quite a bit of footage from the movie The Lighthorsemen.
@thomasrogers5514
@thomasrogers5514 6 жыл бұрын
drunkill yes one of the best young Indiana Jones movies in my opinion
@jovanweismiller7114
@jovanweismiller7114 6 жыл бұрын
Princess Patricia's Light Infantry is also an Edmonton Regiment. It sounds like my old hometown got hit pretty hard this week.
@soyentak5076
@soyentak5076 6 жыл бұрын
as a canadian whose great grandad was grinding in the west well done anzacs in palestine o7
@martinsiala1691
@martinsiala1691 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for remebering all those who fought, died and were wounded for life👍👍yr channel rocks! keep up the awesome work!!! lest we forget
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
Lest we forget.
@MerlijnDingemanse
@MerlijnDingemanse 6 жыл бұрын
With breakthoughs like these the war should be over by christmas!
@NormanMStewart
@NormanMStewart 6 жыл бұрын
Americans with "white, drawn faces and haunted eyes". *(Korean War flashbacks of Dad)* I just couldn't resist.
@zacherybarger5363
@zacherybarger5363 6 жыл бұрын
The Canadians definitely have shown how to hold their ground against German fire and artillery.
@colinkelly5420
@colinkelly5420 6 жыл бұрын
Large part thanks to Currie. The man would not let his preparations be rushed, and was willing to use the autonomy granted to him as a dominion force (answerable to his government first, Haig second) to challenge bad orders.
@zacherybarger5363
@zacherybarger5363 6 жыл бұрын
The great thing about what happened after the war was the countries that were part of the British Empire started seeing themselves as their own national identity. The Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans, and the Indians (British India) all saw themselves differently.
@josephstalin2829
@josephstalin2829 6 жыл бұрын
The only baionette cavalry charge that actually worked.
@raymondgill9796
@raymondgill9796 6 жыл бұрын
The Balfour declaration really should be read in full. Given the claims and counter claims which have sprung from it and the turmoil that still blights politics in the region and beyond. In particular it is important to acknowledge that the offer to the Zionists was conditional on the rights of the Palestinians being respected. Karl Sabbagh's "Palestine" makes for interesting reading. I really enjoy the show and learn so much every week. Thank You.
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
Zionism will be covered more in depth soon.
@ibnyahud
@ibnyahud 6 жыл бұрын
I have read quite a bit of Martin Gilbert and other histories contemporary to that period. I am also extremely familiar with Jewish history and am literate in multiple Jewish languages. I will be waiting to see your coverage - so far you have been praiseworthy
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 4 жыл бұрын
Great job.
@Israelyguy14
@Israelyguy14 6 жыл бұрын
you should have seen the celebrations in Beer Sheva! If you want, I can give you a comparison map of modern beer sheva and recon map of the brits before the battle :D
@jaymartz6491
@jaymartz6491 6 жыл бұрын
Imagine that cavalry charge... the sound... the feel... would have been something out of medieval ages, so amazing!!!
@sparkyfromel
@sparkyfromel 6 жыл бұрын
in a ghastly war , it was a sparkle of glory , a pretty much rare thing by then , love the grumbling of the poms and kiwis
@alabasterscarf612
@alabasterscarf612 6 жыл бұрын
Just in time to see my fellow countrymen go over the top for the first time, I've finally, at long last, caught up on The Great War!
@svennemet4510
@svennemet4510 6 жыл бұрын
first time in life that I did not skip Ad!
@peoplesauce
@peoplesauce 7 ай бұрын
This is not where I expected to hear the Luetin09 spooky piano. Sweet.
@TheIronGunslinger
@TheIronGunslinger 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I had found this channel sooner to go along with you guys through the war. I myself am a military historyphile who’s current lack of documentaries and informative sources is disturbing. What a great idea, and a superbly well executed one. Please keep it up. I’m still catching up, but have any of you been to the National WWI Museum in Kansas City? Not sure how it compares with European ones, but I still feel blessed to have one within driving distance. Thank you.
@vespelian5769
@vespelian5769 6 жыл бұрын
Luigi Cadorna, the most consistent commander on any front. A man with a plan. (one plan). I've just binged my self up to date. It is now November 19 (20)17.
@EvilChameleon09
@EvilChameleon09 6 жыл бұрын
Congrats to your Astros, Indy.
@Newidhan
@Newidhan 6 жыл бұрын
I did like the battle for beer sheba episode in the young indiana jones series
@telsah1
@telsah1 6 жыл бұрын
Well done awesome hero horses. May you have been given fields of Gold grass and hay to enjoy forever in heaven where you are. & warm blessing you sunshine to keep you happy forever and ever. Amen.
@KingWilliamI
@KingWilliamI 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, the PPCLI get a mention (even if it's talking casualties). Nice little reminder that my hometown was involved in all this.
@Mike-tg7dj
@Mike-tg7dj 6 жыл бұрын
Baptism Of Fire
@Crabman1692325
@Crabman1692325 6 жыл бұрын
Just on Beersheba:The ALH had for the majority of the war dismounted to engage (dragoons) thus upon recognising them the German officers set the arty and rifles for distance waiting to get the ALH when they dismounted. When the ALH failed to dismount and kept charging they actually outpaced the arty which ran out of angle to be effective, Turkish soldiers hadn't been ordered to adjust sights when the horses kept galloping towards them. In the chaos the guns were withdraw to get some range and elevation whilst soldiers fired rifles inaccurately. The ALH reached the lines before the guns could be pulled back to a safe distance and only then did some troops dismount to fight in brutal hand to hand combat. So quick and unexpected was the charge that the wells were not fully sabotaged in time this only a few were destroyed before the troopers took control of the town. 31 Australians killed, 33 wounded and 70 horses lost; Turkish casualties numbered around 500
@sparkyfromel
@sparkyfromel 6 жыл бұрын
that's about it , luck is a lady who love to be taken when she offer herself and spurn you in cold fury if you hesitate , beside the horses would have been dead of thirst by morning so a charge was a least bad choice ,
@erikgranqvist3680
@erikgranqvist3680 6 жыл бұрын
There was an article in "Svenska Dagbladet" today (on the net, at least), about the balfour declaration.
@randomguy-tg7ok
@randomguy-tg7ok 6 жыл бұрын
Just over one year left.
@frisiandude7115
@frisiandude7115 22 күн бұрын
Still amazed by the numbers.. 110.000 there , 90,000 there, ase Indy said many episodes ago, they are all human beings, with family, lives etc..... 😲
@p1971cuda
@p1971cuda 6 жыл бұрын
Hello from Canada!
@stitchup5637
@stitchup5637 6 жыл бұрын
They're doing a re enactment of the charge of the Light Horse soon. A great story which is still celebrated in Israel today.
@blade5896
@blade5896 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure people have some interesting opinions on the Balfour declaration
@mattsmith-we8ny
@mattsmith-we8ny 6 жыл бұрын
BLADE dont bring it up
@x999uuu1
@x999uuu1 6 жыл бұрын
That's why I'm down here
@IrishPartizan
@IrishPartizan 6 жыл бұрын
If you are a Palestinian, today is a black day.
@hasani8221
@hasani8221 6 жыл бұрын
Indy said that the Balfour declaration was about keeping Russia in the war. But the problem is most Muslims would never accept that. The thing is, Muslims in general (and Arabs in specific) think there is a worldwide conspiracy to destroy Islam. I should know, I'm an Arab myself and this is the accepted view here. So the question is, how could you possibly convince them that these are just politics. No one is out to get Muslims. No one really cares... Getting them to read a book once in a while would definitely help. Except I know my countrymen, and I promise you, they are not avid readers. Far from it.
@FireAssayDevil
@FireAssayDevil 6 жыл бұрын
The famous graffiti street artist Banksy has marked the Balfour centenary with the unveiling of a satirical art work and a mock street party, using a fake Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second for the "Apology" ceremony. Sorry for the mediocre video, maybe you can google better: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b7hzkrqT0ZvTkWw.html
@MrKangaroo123
@MrKangaroo123 6 жыл бұрын
the light horse charge was one of the last great cavalry charges of the modern era (please note I said one of not the last but one of the last)
@WAMTAT
@WAMTAT 6 жыл бұрын
New Zealand. Woooo!!!!!
@Murray.Sutherland
@Murray.Sutherland 6 жыл бұрын
alexander williams Yeah mate! Chur TGW team!
@dernwine
@dernwine 6 жыл бұрын
"There is only one way to train for modern combat and that is to experience it first hand." Except you know... that's not training that's combat.
@MarekDohojda
@MarekDohojda 6 жыл бұрын
Attach on Beersheba was Haig wet dream. He must have loved it, and many people died later as result of it (as he would push for breakthrough even harder).
@DarkshadowXD63
@DarkshadowXD63 6 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of people ask if you will cover WW2. But will you cover the Russian Civil War as both the Allies and Central Powers send troops to the White Army in the same year as the end of WW1.
@christianweibrecht6555
@christianweibrecht6555 6 жыл бұрын
DarkshadowXD63 I hope they cover the wars between greeks and Turks, Irish v British, polish v Soviet
@cpob2013
@cpob2013 6 жыл бұрын
they have said yes to this for years
@erik8467
@erik8467 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Revolution next week!!
@JahvsIsTheBest
@JahvsIsTheBest 6 жыл бұрын
717 likes and 0 dislikes. Most impressive.
@mikked01
@mikked01 6 жыл бұрын
JarvisTheBest Perhaps Indy's as strong as the emperor thought.
@suhaibisepic6664
@suhaibisepic6664 6 жыл бұрын
Man, Been waiting over a year for this part of the War.. Palestine Front
@Gilbey95
@Gilbey95 6 жыл бұрын
G'day Indy and team, I was wondering if we could get more info on the ANZACs at Beersheba? It is a very important part of our culture and would love to know more. It is known as the last great cavalry charge in history
@eliad6543
@eliad6543 4 жыл бұрын
It's Be'er-Sheva, and it's placed in the wrong place on the map at 4:00. But I know it's hard to get that sort of stuff right, and I very much appreciate the effort :-)
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 6 жыл бұрын
The charge of Beersheba and the 3rd battle of Gaza are finally here
@marcston
@marcston 6 жыл бұрын
You were in it, so can you tell more ;-) There is TV footage of it so don't deny ;-). Loved the episode!
@indianajones4321
@indianajones4321 6 жыл бұрын
Marc The British convinced the Turks the main attack was at Gaza instead of Beersheba. The Australian Light Horsemen charged entrenched infantry, making the charge at Beersheba the last major successful charge. Check out the 1987 movie The Light horsemen.
@matthewtscott1
@matthewtscott1 5 жыл бұрын
12/16th Hunter River lancers, Xth light horse. And the last great cavalry charge in modern warfare. Perhaps you could cover this in out of the trenches?
@ianscott9596
@ianscott9596 6 жыл бұрын
3:35 sounds a lot like the young indiana jones chronicles #15 Daredevils of the Desert
@submarineinthesky8946
@submarineinthesky8946 5 жыл бұрын
Forward, we'll take beersheba, spur up and on light horsemen ride on through dust and bullets, 'til we take beersheba
@peterfriedenspfeife9230
@peterfriedenspfeife9230 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your incredible work that means so much to me and has become an integral part of my life. One question: Why don't you do a "Who did what in WWI" about Ernest Hemingway? His "Farewell to arms" is situated in the context of the Battle of Caporetto and the breakthrough of the Central Powers, if I am not totally wrong. Would fit in very well in one of these weeks. Best greetings, Peter
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
We consider doing such episodes towards the end of the series, when we can reflect on the overall impact of the war.
@bertio10
@bertio10 6 жыл бұрын
You should totally do an episode on Richard Meinertzhagen
@drharmonica
@drharmonica 6 жыл бұрын
I am looking at the items on your beautiful ancient desk. On my right, I see what I believe to be a Nepalese Gurkha kukri knife. It must be dangerous in your studio for you need such a serious bladed weapon to protect yourself perhaps from disgruntled viewers. On the other side, I see what I believe to be the scabbard for the knife. Those triangular spikes must be to foil attacking cavalry.You never know when a bunch of horses will come galloping through your studio bent on mayhem. Bad luck for the poor German soldier who was wearing the helmet with the bullet hole in it. Methinks his head was drilled through and through. Is there an interesting story about the grey trunk behind the desk? The one item I can't identify is the turtle shell looking thingy behind the spikes. In any event, you and your crew are doing a fantastic job. This is one of my most favorite KZfaq channels.
@tommcdonald1873
@tommcdonald1873 6 жыл бұрын
In Memoriam Maj Talbot Mercer Papineau MC, Co PPCLI KIA 10/30/1917.
@alekseibrusilov8218
@alekseibrusilov8218 6 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry my fellow comrades, I WILL SAVE RUSSIA FROM REVOLUTION!!!
@josephstalin2829
@josephstalin2829 6 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@thegloriouspyrocheems2277
@thegloriouspyrocheems2277 4 жыл бұрын
These comments 😂😂😂😂😂
@pavloskoropadsky1448
@pavloskoropadsky1448 4 жыл бұрын
@@thegloriouspyrocheems2277 Literally
@s.31.l50
@s.31.l50 4 жыл бұрын
*says the general who joined the red army in the future*
@pavloskoropadsky1448
@pavloskoropadsky1448 4 жыл бұрын
@@s.31.l50 spoileeeeerrrssss
@Hudute
@Hudute 6 жыл бұрын
Man, dat midroll bait!
@tysonclark5974
@tysonclark5974 6 жыл бұрын
Canadians/Canadiens love you
@puppyflight8303
@puppyflight8303 5 жыл бұрын
The United States Marine corps rewrote the end of the song Over Their with these words "AND WE WON'T BE BACK WE'LL BE BURIED OVER THEIR"
@MM22966
@MM22966 6 жыл бұрын
Indy & Crew, Thank you very much for this wonderful series. This episode brings something to the front that has been bugging me for some time: namely, how much did Haig actually VISIT main fronts? Places where offensives were stalling out like Passchendale, Ypres, etc? Or for that matter, what of other high commanders like Cardona, Hindenburg, Petain, Lundendorf, etc? How did it compare with more active/successful generals like Mackensen, Curry, Allenby, etc? Personal reconnaissance, "checking the ground", is a basic of any combat leader, and I am familiar with the concept of "chateau generals", but is there any kind of meter-stick of just how MUCH Haig had his head up his fourth point of contact, and reading only reports he wanted to read, and saw what he wanted to see? Thanks again, MM
@Zamolxes77
@Zamolxes77 6 жыл бұрын
GLORIOUS REVOLUTION ! There will be blood !
@akishot6735
@akishot6735 6 жыл бұрын
Luigi will be missed I miss getting as much casualties as possible
@seventhsamuel
@seventhsamuel 6 жыл бұрын
There must be more Rumbles on Isonzo... what is the world coming too?!?! 13th time is the charm Generalismo Cadorna!!!! He can still turn this around with a full scale, headlong counterattack!
@pelontorjunta
@pelontorjunta 5 жыл бұрын
Commonwealth War Graves Commission database is showing for British (army) losses in Oct 1917: 37,437 military deaths of which 30,328 in Belgium, 3,730 in France, 1,007 in Middle East and 184 in Greece. The rest of death either in Britain (941), Africa (722) or India (99). Total 5,764 Australian and 2,410 Canadian army soldiers deceased in Oct 1917.
@shadowjack8
@shadowjack8 3 жыл бұрын
At 6:30, Lenin looks like a young Lee Marvin.
@PedroG78
@PedroG78 6 жыл бұрын
The Kiwis in full Rohan style.
@Blackadder1620
@Blackadder1620 6 жыл бұрын
Indy and crew, firstly great work! I've been watching for years and you've come a long way. I just finished dan carlins piece on WWI and it was depressing, but awesome. Have you heard it? What are your guys favorite source materials, anyone's book really stand out to you?
@TheGreatWar
@TheGreatWar 6 жыл бұрын
Sure we love Dan Carlin. On the topics of books... our shelves are full. More than full. Currently interested in the German and Ottoman perspective of the last year of the war. Try the Vanquished by Gerwarth or Fall of the Ottomans by Rogan. -Markus.
@individuum4494
@individuum4494 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, took the Italians more than two years to get rid of Cardona ...
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