BATTLE OF THE 4TH GEN MAIN VOCALS - vocal analysis

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izonexbae

izonexbae

Жыл бұрын

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Hope you like it and leave ur own opinions down below and who i had to analyze instead or in the future.
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@jhayruwu
@jhayruwu Жыл бұрын
the funny thing about this is that NMIXX sullyoon could also make it to this ranking. the vocal line of that group is just insane.
@darkmontero6131
@darkmontero6131 Жыл бұрын
sullyoon AND kyujin cause they're almost the same technically
@SlayerJoe
@SlayerJoe Жыл бұрын
I think Bae would’ve been a great pick for a lead gen 4 vocalist. I think her voice is so beautiful and she ate Cool (your rainbow)
@Glossyxxbeeeeen
@Glossyxxbeeeeen Жыл бұрын
@@darkmontero6131 sullyoon has better lows and belts higher whilst kyujin has better approach
@leedosbf
@leedosbf Жыл бұрын
@@Glossyxxbeeeeen not at all… Kyuji has the better lows as her lower register is actually pretty developed for someone of her age and skill set, while Sully’s are actually pretty underwhelming. And Sully a more balanced technique that Kyujin as she is cleaner, fuller, and engages her chest more. Edit: forgot to mention that Kyujin also gets very tight when singing and even sounds strangled at times. I think it’s mostly cuz she doesn’t really take singing seriously (which makes sense cuz her passion seems to lie mostly in dancing and performing) but that lack of interest does manifest itself in a squeezed throat and pulled larynx. Sullyoon is only outclassed by Kyujin in lows.
@amiboacid7183
@amiboacid7183 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is how delusional you are
@darthestaaar
@darthestaaar Жыл бұрын
haewon has a fullness/robust quality that is pretty rare in 4th gen, reminds me of older vocalists in kpop, its so nice
@ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926
@ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926 Жыл бұрын
this omg! I noticed that for other vocalists, the higher they go, the thinner their voice becomes but for Haewon it still sounds so full and powerful
@darthestaaar
@darthestaaar Жыл бұрын
@@ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926 yes, overall that thinner, small sound is dominant in 4th gen whereas haewon and lots of others in the past sound “hearty”. sangyeon from tbz is a male i can think of that has a pretty uncommon fuller sound in 4th gen as well
@devstruction
@devstruction Жыл бұрын
@Chaeerie they both have kind of a soul/rnb sound
@aeivyyy
@aeivyyy Жыл бұрын
its probably because she slightly lowers her larynx when belting to truly get a more robust sound
@darthestaaar
@darthestaaar Жыл бұрын
@@aeivyyy eh, she sounds “full” throughout her voice, it’s definitely her natural timbre
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Жыл бұрын
I agree. Ningning's villain is her lack of confidence. She can definitely opt for a bolder and more balanced belt but she chooses not to.
@rubyjaneluvbot
@rubyjaneluvbot Жыл бұрын
this!! this is also a reason why winter gets most of the belts. ningning lacks confidence during lives meanwhile winter belts the notes as if there's no tomorrow.
@HanQ28
@HanQ28 Жыл бұрын
Recently Ningning said in an interview that she's nearly blind in her right eye (she's had a severe eye infection disease since childhood). I wonder if that has something to do with her confidence. Technically you don't need your eyes to sing. But Ningning is basically a "disabled" young woman, so maybe she just has some confidence issues in general - which in turn affect her approach to singing as well.
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Жыл бұрын
@@HanQ28 I also saw that.
@Lunalarra
@Lunalarra Жыл бұрын
I think ningning dont get a chance to show her ability.. we can see her great voice n belt in beautiful chrismast and time after time
@unknown_8588
@unknown_8588 Жыл бұрын
​@@HanQ28 I don't how that connects
@yusraibrahim7121
@yusraibrahim7121 Жыл бұрын
the vocals of nmixx is literally insane imagine having hard and tiring choreos and singing live too like they are really powerful sullyoons vocals are no joke too
@aloe5107
@aloe5107 Жыл бұрын
Now I really want to know how jyp trainers train them lol I want a lesson from them so I can improve my terribile singing ahah
@ereh11
@ereh11 Жыл бұрын
​@@aloe5107 they actually are sent to the US to train with Navy SEALs
@mard-e6086
@mard-e6086 Жыл бұрын
​@Aloe dunno but I heard somewhere that they run while practicing their singing
@Kat-y_L
@Kat-y_L 10 ай бұрын
@@aloe5107 probably in a different method than itzy .
@Pats_diary2010
@Pats_diary2010 7 ай бұрын
@@Kat-y_LI heard somewhere Itzy are forced to practice their dance for 6+ hours a day or smth like that
@giabaomaidang242
@giabaomaidang242 Жыл бұрын
I agree with NingNing analysis, I don't know but when she performs on the stages, we can clearly see her stage presence and her confidence in her dancing and attitude, but when it comes to live vocal, she looks like she afraid that she will crack her voice, her notes are mostly heady. I hope that she will be more confident in live vocal, she is a promising vocalist with a lot of potentials, I really like her agility.
@shiningyoonie
@shiningyoonie Жыл бұрын
Considering how many ignorant kpop fans thinking vocal cracks mean poor technique and calling a vocalist bad for having a few cracking moments, it's understandable that she's so afraid to go all out.
@meganyamk172
@meganyamk172 Жыл бұрын
Bro, she confessed that she was nearly blind with one eye... Imagine how hard it is for her dancing properly and singing on a stage when she barely sees anything with one eye... And she still has the best stage presence.
@tapewoerm
@tapewoerm 7 ай бұрын
I think it’s important to also take Aespa’s lack of live stages into consideration. Surely, not singing live often will harm one’s confidence or comfortability in taking those risks when going all out.
@elmerbasig71
@elmerbasig71 Жыл бұрын
The fact that other NMIXX vocalists could also be in this list is insane. ❤
@rainbowparadise3124
@rainbowparadise3124 Жыл бұрын
also aespa's
@bracy_0
@bracy_0 Жыл бұрын
@@rainbowparadise3124 Nmixx and Aespa are such a talented group
@asareirene
@asareirene Жыл бұрын
If this video was actually about the best, this list would not exist. Some Nmixx members are better than some on this list
@sekkai_
@sekkai_ Жыл бұрын
@@asareirene even sullyoon is above liz although she is below yunjin
@sqdg3
@sqdg3 10 ай бұрын
​@@sekkai_sullyon is not that a consistent c-, nor liz so idk sullyon is slightly better,
@chanellespookie
@chanellespookie Жыл бұрын
In ten years time, lily and Haewon are going to be absolute vocal monsters
@ereh11
@ereh11 Жыл бұрын
They already are
@azurean7183
@azurean7183 Жыл бұрын
@@ereh11 definitely, but sopranos reach their peak in their 30s so by that time haewon and lily will be absolute beasts
@ereh11
@ereh11 Жыл бұрын
@@azurean7183 with proper training too. Unfortunately JYP isn't known for that. Hopefully, they take care of their most talented GG
@Joonpathy
@Joonpathy 7 ай бұрын
Only if JYP gives them proper vocal training which I doubt they will.
@rensunlife
@rensunlife Жыл бұрын
I really hope ningning becomes more confident singing live because this girls vocals are to die for. I think I kind of understand why winter gets most of the high notes now, I think when it comes to live stages winter is just more confident and goes for the high note whereas ningning tends to take the safer route and does it in head voice. I hope in the future ningning will show us a stage where not only is she confident in performing but singing too.
@luvieNini
@luvieNini Жыл бұрын
No it’s because of sm
@acebase555
@acebase555 11 ай бұрын
Winter is definitely more willing to take risks, but she also doesn’t sound good when she does the higher belts. I would rather have Ning’s cautious approach that sounds better.
@danissegomez7953
@danissegomez7953 11 ай бұрын
​@@acebase555 Ning is always capable, SM is just pushing Winter when she can barely hit those notes😂
@Hang-xy6yk
@Hang-xy6yk 5 ай бұрын
Not exactly.Most of the highest notes in Aespa's discography are actually Ningning's adlib and runs in the background.Winter's highnote is actually not that high,but tends to sound higher because of her approach to the notes,which sounds satisfying when she manage to hit it,but it's not that stable in live.
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Жыл бұрын
Sieun is a really interesting case. She has SOOOO much potential. If only she trained in a more vocal-centric company or company with history of good vocal training like SM, she's gonna be unstoppable.
@k-potato3593
@k-potato3593 Жыл бұрын
Btw sieun used to be under jyp and underwent 2yrs of training. She was part of itzy potential lineup as well.
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Жыл бұрын
@@k-potato3593 I know. I became a fan after watching her in Still 17. But she was in JYP for acting in majority so her vocals haven't really been trained there well. And you know that JYP isn't really that great with vocals esp. their half-air thingy. Only with NMIXX did they have vocalists at par with some SM vocalists (Lily, Haewon)
@Blanka767
@Blanka767 Жыл бұрын
​@@marquersurlalune Excuse me, but JYP also had Wonder girls, &15 and they have Day6. In my opinion, they are also on pair with SM vocalists (not better, but they aren't far below, you know?)
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Жыл бұрын
@@Blanka767 I'm talking about the company as a whole. You see a clear line between SM and JYP? SM have been producing average, above average, proficient, good main vocalists ever since 1st generation. Let alone their lead vocalists. BOA, TVXQ, SUJU, THE GRACE, SNSD up to present, they don't MISS AT ALL. JYP on the other hand had only a couple of main vocalists that could be at par with SM Vocalists (NMIXX, DAY6, &15, WG) and that's about it. There's a clear disparity. They are far behind. Not even close. If you still don't understand, I don't know anymore.
@itsdomd0misticn00b7
@itsdomd0misticn00b7 Жыл бұрын
​@@Blanka767 SM's lead vocalists are usually on par if not better than most of JYP's main vocalists. Meanwhile, SM's main vocalists are usually considered on a different level. (At least according vocal analysis experts) JYP has some pretty good vocalists alright, but their best one isn't even worth comparing to SM's best, because it's obvious who would win.
@martymarchh
@martymarchh Жыл бұрын
Now Lily A5 again in Young, Dumb, Stupid The only 4th gen that can slay this
@imfoive991
@imfoive991 Жыл бұрын
and supported 3 Eb5s in love me like this
@myouimina6385
@myouimina6385 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and the fact that the A5 have good placement is incredible
@fqerie9376
@fqerie9376 Жыл бұрын
I love her
@hanatake2353
@hanatake2353 Жыл бұрын
And shes still vgly😭 as expected from jyp’s daughter
@deyoncew3311
@deyoncew3311 Жыл бұрын
1. Lily 2. Haewon 3. NingNing 4. Yunjin 5. Liz 6. Lia 7. Sieun
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
Yeah very similar
@deyoncew3311
@deyoncew3311 Жыл бұрын
@izonexbae I want to put Sieun higher because she's bolder but Lia is generally more consistent. I feel like with a little training Sieun could easily be Average.
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
@@deyoncew3311 It's pretty easy for anyone to get up to Average with any training tbh. In fact, one could probably land around there as a self taught singer
@tajomari1124
@tajomari1124 Жыл бұрын
@@zhejiwooinkwangyaI never knew this..if its so easy how do kpop companies genuinely train their vocalists for half of the industry to be w-a ...
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
@@tajomari1124 Mhm... you know, a vocal coach can go on and on for years giving the same right advice and exercises, but if the singer never actually puts it into their practice, they'll never see growth.
@hrynnn.
@hrynnn. Жыл бұрын
We all know Sieun is a flawed vocalist but I feel her vocal range in general makes her Stand out she has incredible accessibility in all of registers and surprisingly her lower register too
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
For sure, very much potential
@fangirlmode8705
@fangirlmode8705 11 ай бұрын
Yup, she just needs training.
@hrynnn.
@hrynnn. 11 ай бұрын
@@fangirlmode8705 just like most of the vocalist in 4th Gen. So what is your point
@fangirlmode8705
@fangirlmode8705 11 ай бұрын
@@hrynnn. I mean, she has a potential, she just needs to have a vocal coach. There's nothing to what I said.
@hrynnn.
@hrynnn. 11 ай бұрын
@@fangirlmode8705 she’s a stylistic singer who doesn’t rely on technique just like the rest of the group.
@Jim-mw8xw
@Jim-mw8xw Жыл бұрын
lia has my favourite tone in the entire 4th gen and is also my favourite idol along with lily. i really wish so much that a vocal coach could help her. her breath control and vocal support really needs help because why are you as a soprano straining bad even on a B4 (red cover). her tone is gorgeous, lower register has such a great quality, she has the potential but she just haven't truly unlocked it. she has nice falsettos and great transitions between registers too.
@Siocean_
@Siocean_ Жыл бұрын
IKR her voice is so good but I think they got yeji to develop her vocal more than Lia😭
@greenthinggg
@greenthinggg Жыл бұрын
​@@Siocean_ frr
@FareedKhan-xs9nj
@FareedKhan-xs9nj Жыл бұрын
Lia is my bias too, and I agree, everyone who analyses her says she has huge potential to get better, and seeing Nmixx Bae’s improvement really makes me think that Itzy’s vocal teachers aren’t doing all they can to really help her and the rest of the girls improve.
@greenthinggg
@greenthinggg Жыл бұрын
@@FareedKhan-xs9nj I agree
@hanatake2353
@hanatake2353 Жыл бұрын
She cant even sing taylor swift song lmaooo midzys are so delusional
@preymeth
@preymeth Жыл бұрын
10:22 is one of my fav moments of haewon's vocal omg i just loooove her vibrato here so much it literally gave me chills when i first heard it😻😻😻
@stevensong8618
@stevensong8618 5 ай бұрын
Lily and Haewon are the best 1,2 punch in the 4th gen and then you add Sullyoon.... it is insane. Plus every other member can support. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@dodorananda
@dodorananda Жыл бұрын
If youre lazy to watch the video heres the final ranking: 1 - Lily and Haewon 2 - NingNig 3 - Yunjin 4 - Liz 5 - Lia 6 - Sieun hope that helps
@udebrl
@udebrl 11 ай бұрын
@_TA11 she is not, Haewon and Lily still better than her
@moonlights14387
@moonlights14387 Жыл бұрын
NMIXX LILY ON ANOTHER LEVEL✋🏻 I saw her all performance (since 12 years old) she is incredible
@sumi3410
@sumi3410 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone else who believes HAEWON and LILY complete each other...oo i love nmixx
@skyseung1884
@skyseung1884 Жыл бұрын
Haewon simply a main vocalist material in some of 4th gen ggs.
@riizemixx
@riizemixx Жыл бұрын
In all actually and she's a main vocalist in nmixx alongside lily.
@jvnsoll
@jvnsoll Жыл бұрын
shes also a main vocalist in nmixx aswell
@mimi_imfat
@mimi_imfat Жыл бұрын
Not some 4th gen ggs, she could be a main vocal in pretty much in every 4th group rn (I’m not sure about all the nugus)
@bracy_0
@bracy_0 Жыл бұрын
@@mimi_imfat I think in all groups, besides 12dal. Actually I don’t know much about 12dal
@shujinko2944
@shujinko2944 Жыл бұрын
In EVERY 4th gen GG
@pyaytsone9717
@pyaytsone9717 Жыл бұрын
If Lia master the foundation she can be the queen of vocal bc her tone is so beautiful and unique, that’s something you can’t train to achieve. I hope she improves in the future.
@terimasketir425
@terimasketir425 Жыл бұрын
@@uzuzlas4676 stop blaming the company look at nmixx, its simply that lia is at her limit. Its possible that this is as far as she can go.
@hanatake2353
@hanatake2353 Жыл бұрын
She cant even sing taylor swift song perfectly ijBOLLL KEEP ON DREAMING MIDZYS!
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Жыл бұрын
Y'all r delusional, she can improve but not be the queen of vocals
@hanatake2353
@hanatake2353 Жыл бұрын
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc 🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤DOZEN LIA, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE THE MOST WEAKEST MAIN VOCALIST IN JYPEE AND KPOP INDUSTRY IN GENERAL???🎤🎤
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Жыл бұрын
@@hanatake2353 that's was unnecessary
@Rhaphidophile
@Rhaphidophile 10 ай бұрын
Ningning really just needs to work on exposure; SM's fault entirely. When she gets to perform live and she's in her element, she's absolutely on fire. SM forcing to lipsync their first three years was definitely a detriment. edit: It frustartes me sometimes that she often chooses to be safe than risking notes, but I guess we also can appreciate her for taking care of her voice. Anyway her headvoice is immaculate and she definitely relies on it and mixes more heady whenever she's in doubt (which ig is okay considering how piercing Winter is).
@ismailhakim255
@ismailhakim255 Жыл бұрын
There’s something that i love about ningning is that it sounds easy for her, she doesn’t need to like scream or get everything force out of her chest, it sounds easy in the ears everytime
@quekquekkk
@quekquekkk Жыл бұрын
All I know is that Lily has the best 4th gen vocals so far (for me). The control of that girl in her voice is insane. Even from a very young age, that was evident. You can even compare her to the best of the best from the older gens, and she'd have no problem reaching their level (e.g. the Ailee/Yuju collab). Give her a tad bit more time to develop and I'm confident she might just become the best kpop vocalist of all time That being said, Haewon is definitely not too far behind. Nmixx in general has one of the best vocalists, so that doesn't surprise me. I agree with the ranking, except for Lily and Haewon (1st and close 2nd), and the last 2 in the list. I'd say Sieun is a tad bit better than Lia since Lia kinda struggles a bit even in the vocal range she's supposed to be most comfortable in :) Still... they're all amazing vocalists (and more importantly, they're all better than me lol)
@k_e_n_n
@k_e_n_n Жыл бұрын
Out of all in the list, I love Yunjin and Liz the most! They have long ways to go to perfect their skills but I know they'll get there with proper training and hardwork. I feel bad with Yunjin's recession tho. I believe she is also aware of this as she mentioned this in our of LSRFM's vlog. But I like that she keeps her songs in her comfortable range. When I listen to her songs, I feel very relaxed. As for Liz, she's got a lot of raw talent. And based on her performance in their concert, you can see that she's working hard improving her vocals. Amazing singers, I admire these two soo much!
@danielkaggio1976
@danielkaggio1976 Жыл бұрын
When sieun hit a whistle note I was in utter shock
@dylantoo6347
@dylantoo6347 Жыл бұрын
I'm too lazy to find it, where is it?
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Жыл бұрын
@@dylantoo6347 3:33
@louieya9190
@louieya9190 8 ай бұрын
Im voting jo yuri as well. She has a very rich and unique vocal color and can definitely go up there. She has been slaying since 2018
@The_Invisible_Rat
@The_Invisible_Rat 7 ай бұрын
YESS
@yerismind
@yerismind Жыл бұрын
haewon has the best vocal tone in 4 gen argue with me
@justdb4
@justdb4 Жыл бұрын
Arguing about vocal tone is subjective and is like comparing with apples to oranges. Which doesn't make any sense. So, if people were to argue with you, it would be like arguing with a wall since we all have our subjective taste. I also like Haewon's tone too.
@yerismind
@yerismind Жыл бұрын
@@justdb4 its just a joke bro
@Glossyxxbeeeeen
@Glossyxxbeeeeen Жыл бұрын
@@yerismind bye 💀
@raraa6052
@raraa6052 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't deserve even an argue💀😂
@tonitaam646
@tonitaam646 2 ай бұрын
Dependiendo el gusto de la gente, ella tiene una voz madura y sonora, pero su técnica no es la mejor de la cuarta generación. Aún así ella canta hermoso, seguro será una de las mejores en el futuro, sin embargo ser o no ser la mejor no minimiza su talento.
@draken1058
@draken1058 Жыл бұрын
even though liz is low and behind now, she has such a unique vocal colour that is rich, but smooth and sweet that stands out from the rest of her group. starship needs to capitalize on that. she needs real deal training and a giant confidence boost because she has astronomical potential to rise the ranks. go liz
@justformyb6245
@justformyb6245 Жыл бұрын
So in this list: Low range: NingNing Mid range: Haewon Higher range: Lily
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Жыл бұрын
More like Lows: Ningning 4th octave and Mid range: Haewon Head voice and 5th octave: Lily
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Жыл бұрын
Great video ! btw i believe Lily sang some A5s in Head Voice in her cover of All i want for christmas. NingNing also has a new Bb5 in mix in "Salty and Sweet"
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
I think so too but i was a bit off with the vocal ranges probably
@asdrubalalejandrosolorzano1847
@asdrubalalejandrosolorzano1847 Жыл бұрын
@@izonexbae yeah and 2ning has connected her hv till F6, and Lia has mixed up till F#5😅 but i think that the supported ranges are accurate
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
@@asdrubalalejandrosolorzano1847 yeah i tried to keep it more in singing range for Ning’s hv. I havent heard Lia’s haha
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Жыл бұрын
I believe NN's Bb5 in Salty and Sweet was in head voice.
@s_bp2876
@s_bp2876 Жыл бұрын
I love Lia’s voice! Her emotion when she sings she makes me want to cry. She just get shy but she sounds so beautiful.
@anistardi
@anistardi Жыл бұрын
I think Lilly has best vocal technique and powerful in pop song, but i like Sulyoon's voice tone/color/timbre, it rich but soft. The best musicality is Yunjin, and I considered only Yunjin now that I can called her as true artist.
@oil2614
@oil2614 Жыл бұрын
The way sieun can hit 3 of the highest notes ( BB5,G6, and F6)in kpop with ease and walk out without broken vocal cords is CRAZY
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Жыл бұрын
If she keeps doing that, she will regress
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Жыл бұрын
And we all know she's a weak vocalist
@fangirlmode8705
@fangirlmode8705 11 ай бұрын
​@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIctrue
@hilal2154
@hilal2154 Жыл бұрын
lily and haewon is good but i love ningning's vocal more, her voice is everything
@harveyism
@harveyism Жыл бұрын
my favorite vocalist is Yunjin. every time she sings i feel her love for music.
@Muskii_1
@Muskii_1 Жыл бұрын
Baby monster is coming guyssss haram pharita rora Chiquita already breaked recordss
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Жыл бұрын
It's really annoying how y'all say "Baemon is coming" whenever there's a vid Abt kpop vocalists yet their best vocalist is Mid W-A
@rubyjaneluvbot
@rubyjaneluvbot Жыл бұрын
I wish goeun, chaehyun, monday were here too. also the fact that karina, winter and giselle could also make it in the list is insane.
@yo1gurtno1gaf92
@yo1gurtno1gaf92 Жыл бұрын
please, chaehyun is so underrated
@pinkystar6469
@pinkystar6469 Жыл бұрын
sullyoon & kyujin too ?
@rubyjaneluvbot
@rubyjaneluvbot Жыл бұрын
@@pinkystar6469 yepp
@hanatake2353
@hanatake2353 Жыл бұрын
Chaehyun??? That sm reject???
@OteeSonic
@OteeSonic Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Weeekly Monday is on top tier in this list with Lilly Haewon and Ningning Main Vocal Main Dance with powerful rap.
@gudc00ch33
@gudc00ch33 Жыл бұрын
Yunjin is a weird case, cuz she seems to be the same as her predebut stage until you get to the higher end of her mixed voice and that at least to me is where i hear the difference, but nonetheless she still is a great vocalist with loads of potential
@jihyotwice1005
@jihyotwice1005 Жыл бұрын
Hybe vocal coach is meh 😕
@frieddegg
@frieddegg Жыл бұрын
i think its also bc she stopped singing, she was going to go to university and move on from an idol life before hybe rang her. the others have been training cinsistently for years.
@fangirlmode8705
@fangirlmode8705 11 ай бұрын
She is in HYBE... that's the problem. They have the worst vocal coaches.
@ayline5412
@ayline5412 Жыл бұрын
Liz voice is so beatiful
@iillii1234
@iillii1234 Жыл бұрын
Lilly vocal range is actually Eb3-Bb5-Bb5 The Eb3 was in the staff's wedding "To you my light". The Bb5 (hv) was in her vlive practicing on "Ego" - Beyonce.
@Glossyxxbeeeeen
@Glossyxxbeeeeen Жыл бұрын
Can you link the Bb5 on ego? Im doing a vocal showcase
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Жыл бұрын
​@@Glossyxxbeeeeen she did a Bb5 of sullyoons high note in dice at Mama
@Glossyxxbeeeeen
@Glossyxxbeeeeen Жыл бұрын
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc i said ego not dice...
@hosannaaaaaaaa
@hosannaaaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
we dont need to battle we all know nmixx has the best vocalists of all 4th gen no one compares
@alexally2769
@alexally2769 Жыл бұрын
Idk much about vocal technique but I loved and kept repeating Ningning’s belt during Savage’s 1st prechorus on their 1st encore. Like yes girl! Belt that with confidence! I wish she sang more like that. I notice the fear in her eyes whenever she has to belt or even just sing live in general (which is interesting since Winter’s the opposite, girl doesn’t give af lol). I personally think her nicest moments are when she’s in a casual setting. So much potential when she gets over that hurdle.
@joestylechannel4939
@joestylechannel4939 Жыл бұрын
Weeekly Monday deserve to be recognized as one of the top 4th gen vocalist. Her high note in 'Solar' on Weverse 💕 even her low note from 'when we were young' by Adele cover on radio. I mean there's a lot Monday sing live on Weverse that uploaded on KZfaq. Maybe it's time to analysis Weeekly Monday vocal.
@noriawawa9073
@noriawawa9073 Жыл бұрын
Sullyoon is also a good vocalist,visual that actially can sing live
@anisaafsar4528
@anisaafsar4528 Жыл бұрын
The thing is although I love nmixx vocal ability and I like Haewons and sullyoons voices I can't stand Lily's voice sometimes. In highlight medley she sounds nice but sometimes in actually Nmixx songs I feel like her voice doesn't suit Idk why. With NingNing I actually like her voice because I think it's really sweet but yes NingNing just needs more confidence
@martacastillo6272
@martacastillo6272 Жыл бұрын
Yup we all have vocal tone preferences
@imfoive991
@imfoive991 Жыл бұрын
lily's voice is rlly good
@GabrielAlves-ig6wh
@GabrielAlves-ig6wh Жыл бұрын
Voices like lilly are rare in the kpop industry, so it's expected some won't resonate with it for a while
@anisaafsar4528
@anisaafsar4528 9 ай бұрын
​@@GabrielAlves-ig6whidk her voice reminds me of winters as well but again I actually like winters voice on aespa songs idk why
@TolemeHernandez
@TolemeHernandez Жыл бұрын
Nmixx is everything
@fitryaisminuzula
@fitryaisminuzula 3 ай бұрын
The funny thing is my 4th gen fav idol is all started with letter L. Lia, Lily, Liz..gosh, I hope someday they can make a collab
@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell
@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell Жыл бұрын
Good video as always. I just think you could give Lily D5/Eb5 since she showcase a good consistency with Eb5. Also, I would give Yujin G#3/A3-Bb4/B4-G#5, since she showed the capacity to sustain and support up to G#5 and to phrase A5 with support, and she supported couple of G#3 like in raise your glass. Anyway, glad you're back.💙
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
Nice addition, yeah about Lily and Yunjin I wasn’t sure in some spaces. I’d give Lily D5’s for sure not Eb5’s i think And the hv yeah
@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell
@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell Жыл бұрын
@@izonexbae She sustained an Eb5 and I would call it support. It was in her cover of time for the moon.
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
@@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell yeah i know she has sustained and phrased at times but the Eb5 has to be a bit more consistent for me at least
@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell
@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell Жыл бұрын
@@izonexbae Oh, ok. Got it. Thanks for your reply.💙 You're fast btw.🤣🤣🤣
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
@@FeelsLikeHeavenFeelsLikeHell always heheh
@asianindigs
@asianindigs Жыл бұрын
Lily has A5 note in headvoice on her cover song "All I want for Christmas" tho
@bellaluvskanao
@bellaluvskanao Жыл бұрын
The way Sullyoon could also make it on this list 😭 Nmixx fighting!
@emmag.7731
@emmag.7731 Жыл бұрын
I think that Billlie has some AMAZING main vocalists. It'd be really cool to see what you thought.
@natnut2008
@natnut2008 Жыл бұрын
I find Weeekly's Monday very impressive.
@shraddhapatel3142
@shraddhapatel3142 11 ай бұрын
Honourable mention to one of the best vocalist in 4th gen , the one and only, Monday from Weeekly💝
@yujikari
@yujikari Жыл бұрын
Ningning's supported range: F#3 - C#5
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
I might give her F#3 but her C#’s are inconsistent for me, so I wouldn’t fully give her that
@TheReVeluvFestival
@TheReVeluvFestival Жыл бұрын
F#3 - C5
@ericfaulk2204
@ericfaulk2204 Жыл бұрын
Lily is so far ahead of any other 4th Gen idol, she's basically on the short list for the GOAT K-pop vocalist.
@ooyaa8198
@ooyaa8198 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this ranking especially LILY and HAEWON and NINGNING But there are also other amazing vocalists like CHAEHYON from Kep1er
@neli2136
@neli2136 Жыл бұрын
Sieun have si much potential omg :0 My favorite is Liz, I LOVE HER VOCAL TONE!!!
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Жыл бұрын
Besides bringing more chest voice into her mix in the 5th octave, Ningning also should lift more her soft palate, that would give more of a open sound to her notes rather then the small quality thet her high notes have know.
@huggingismyjob6506
@huggingismyjob6506 Жыл бұрын
I thought Lily's lows consistently were only down to A3 wow she's even better than I thought 🤩
@witchywatcher
@witchywatcher Жыл бұрын
i like yunjin and lily, i think they r great they have a powerful voice and that is so charming and so interested
@SlayerJoe
@SlayerJoe Жыл бұрын
I think Lia has the potential to be a powerhouse vocalist the problem is that, In true JYP fashion, she’s forced to sing with an unnatural tone. I think they wanted her to be the next Nayeon and make Yeji the next Jihyo but Lia, as you said, does better in a lower register. JYP has all these talented women in his company but if you’re not in Twice you’re given scraps. He has Twice until 2029 now so hopefully he’ll stop trying to recreate their magic and let Itzy and NMIXX create their own magic. Anyways, I’m not gonna sit here and rank talented women like they’re objects created solely for our entertainment during women’s history month or ever, so I put all of them at number one because they all have strengths and weaknesses and that’s just called being human and the real talent is putting yourself out into the public eye and taking criticism like water off a ducks back. All these Queens are amazing and deserve the world. Werk ladies!!
@saltyx4136
@saltyx4136 Жыл бұрын
The problem is she doesnt have the same level of technique. I like ITZY btw.
@SlayerJoe
@SlayerJoe Жыл бұрын
@@saltyx4136 yeah I don’t understand why the company would train her vocal in an unnatural way like it’s obvious from debut. Dalla Dalla wasn’t within her comfort range so she wasn’t able to truly show off her vocals. I just hope that she doesn’t ruin her voice trying to fit the mold JYPE is putting her in.
@oohmyjooy
@oohmyjooy Жыл бұрын
It's JYPE* not JYP. The guy is not CEO.
@SlayerJoe
@SlayerJoe Жыл бұрын
@@oohmyjooy he created the company
@oohmyjooy
@oohmyjooy Жыл бұрын
@@SlayerJoe And he's not the one making the decisions anymore. He's not the one that "has twice till 2029" JYPE does. And it's about time kpop stans understand the difference.
@edu.8552
@edu.8552 Жыл бұрын
it would be nice an agility ranking. I feel like, in k-pop, riffs and runs are overlooked, but I'm a sucker for agilty, one of the reasons I love SulHaeLy so much.
@fangirlmode8705
@fangirlmode8705 11 ай бұрын
I am a sucker for vocalists like D.O because his runs are great. Baek Yerin too.
@jihyotwice1005
@jihyotwice1005 Жыл бұрын
How can someone be talented..haewon is literally top tier vocalist while being most skilled dancer in idol dance. Not even yg or sm can have idol like her . LMAO
@harry3297
@harry3297 Жыл бұрын
Luna from f(x)
@beyonceschild
@beyonceschild Жыл бұрын
Luna, Taemin, Seohyun, Xiah Junsu..
@rubyjaneluvbot
@rubyjaneluvbot Жыл бұрын
LMAOO ever heard of luna from f(x)?? taemin from shinee?? seulgi from red velvet?? ( yes my girl seulgi can eat half of the 4th gen mains up. also around your fav jihyo vocally )
@giabaomaidang242
@giabaomaidang242 Жыл бұрын
girl have u heard of Luna :))
@shujinko2944
@shujinko2944 Жыл бұрын
@@rubyjaneluvbot Haewon easily outsings Seulgi tho.
@HanQ28
@HanQ28 Жыл бұрын
I swear Ningning always looks/sounds like she will be sent straight back to China by SM if she makes just one mistake on stage. She has so much fear in her big eyes😂
@sowhat1674
@sowhat1674 Жыл бұрын
It's because people are always racist towards her just because she is Chinese.
@jrkln27
@jrkln27 Жыл бұрын
14:12 😱😱 I saw Lia as not so good, but wow, she made me eat my words
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite moments of her
@slaypa
@slaypa Жыл бұрын
liz has much pontential to make her mix balanced
@maunglukakku3197
@maunglukakku3197 Жыл бұрын
Love your VDO. Very Informative. It must take you a lot of work. I truly appreciate !!!. Please keep up the good work, i followed you.
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
Thanks❤️
@kanzrifrosie
@kanzrifrosie Жыл бұрын
Lia Vocal tone so unique & beautiful ❤️
@maelt4347
@maelt4347 Жыл бұрын
If Sieun had sm vocal trainers she would be unstoppable
@altanhaddad6943
@altanhaddad6943 Жыл бұрын
Bro the rapper line in NMIXX they can sing very well too. like dude they're rapper with almost swag voice but they can SLAY when they sing💅🏻🥵i can agree that NMIXX be one of the best 4th gen pure talented group
@sumi3410
@sumi3410 Жыл бұрын
I have a suggestion next time u can make the relaxed vocals in green, and the strained ones in red!
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Жыл бұрын
I think green is for supported notes, yellow is for relaxed notes, and red is for strained notes
@buttdonalds1141
@buttdonalds1141 Жыл бұрын
In the video you said yunjin's highest note in her upper register was G5 but then you showed a clip of her singing a C6? I think you might've accidentally used the same range as Lily 😅
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
Lmaoo thanks for pointing out🤣
@ceci7488
@ceci7488 Жыл бұрын
I would give NingNing C#5 cus she consistent with her C#5 in the Hyper Line Concert
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure about that concert since not everything was live. But she has some C#’s she just doesn’t have them the same way Haewon has them consistently. It’s mostly phrasing
@moonlights14387
@moonlights14387 Жыл бұрын
​@@izonexbae yeah idols used prerecord vocals
@preymeth
@preymeth Жыл бұрын
i have a question about haewon, u mentioned that she's very close to achieving resonance, can u show me which moment where she almost did that? thanks in advance^^
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
10:17, 10:35, 10:51
@preymeth
@preymeth Жыл бұрын
@@izonexbae thankyouu!!
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 4 ай бұрын
Late but I seriously hope Lia gets the right sources for vocal training after Itzy disbands, she has so much potential, but her biggest issue is her confidence and her mixed, her A4 sounds effortless at times and she can even sing Bb4 back then, she needs to be taught how to belt properly
@shulilin2450
@shulilin2450 Жыл бұрын
I hope to see Monday of Weeekly in your next 4th Generation Vocal Analysys, pls. I know Weeekly are quite underrated, but I think Monday is quite good to be analyzed in your channel.
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
Yeah i know Monday and love weeekly, will be featured very soon
@imbored2200
@imbored2200 Жыл бұрын
I think Lilly should get D5/Eb5 in her mixed register because she shows consistency in her Eb5's, just my opinion
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
New intro, new analysis and a new start! Corrections about the vocal ranges: Lily: Eb3-Bb5-Bb5 Yunjin: F3-F#5-C6(mightve gone higher)
@asareirene
@asareirene Жыл бұрын
Would have loved to see your opinion on Swan and Go Eun of PURPLE kiss. Especially goeun
@아빠
@아빠 6 ай бұрын
I think LILY's supported range is G#3~Eb5~G5
@pokemontech7393
@pokemontech7393 Жыл бұрын
I wish Purple Kiss's Na Goeun was also here 😌
@justdb4
@justdb4 Жыл бұрын
I mean, if she was, she would be above Yunjin and below Ningning. She has a better grasp on B4 than Yunjin does, and she is not as stylistic as Yunjin is as well.
@pokemontech7393
@pokemontech7393 Жыл бұрын
​@@justdb4Can you tell me where would be CRAXY's Swan would be ... If she was in the ranking
@BirdHater
@BirdHater Жыл бұрын
Liz is better than I expected. Nice vid, Ryan! Also can I ask you I question? 👉👈
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
Sure ask mee
@BirdHater
@BirdHater Жыл бұрын
@@izonexbae There are a few ppl saying Lia regressed and Yeji is slightly better than her now. How accurate is that? I haven't listening to their vocals a lot lately~ Also not sure if you are into pop songs, but in case you know her enough, how good is Sabrina Carpenter?
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Жыл бұрын
​@@BirdHater Lia didn't really regress, she's still less shallow than Yeji
@ernestonunez2400
@ernestonunez2400 Жыл бұрын
I am 100% agree with your ranking
@heyobr0
@heyobr0 Жыл бұрын
Great video, i know it's just the most popular ones but maybe it will be more interesting if you want to make the most underrated ones like weeekly monday, purple kiss swan, cherry bullet bora etc and rank them too and compare the most popular and underrated so that will be awsome but i just tell anyway
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
Great idea, would make a very long video tho
@Owen_kim_Official
@Owen_kim_Official Жыл бұрын
please add monday from weeekly support her vocals from F3-Eb5 and low tone Vocal Range from D3, and she has a very mature and extraordinary technique
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
Yeah her lows are crazy
@julusmalcolm
@julusmalcolm Жыл бұрын
Monday doesn't support above C#5 I think could be wrong
@Owen_kim_Official
@Owen_kim_Official Жыл бұрын
@@julusmalcolm he supports C# 5 in 2020 and now he's moving up to Eb5. If you don't believe me, check out Monday's cover, which features the song I have nothing, and grils reverse like a star , and twenty for twenty five by jaurim.
@Owen_kim_Official
@Owen_kim_Official Жыл бұрын
@@izonexbae isn't that so cool and great?
@cringelmao
@cringelmao Жыл бұрын
@@Owen_kim_Official Monday's C#5s are not that consistent, at least from what I've heard. Her Eb5s are all strained, same with her """supported""" D5s.
@bunnychae3887
@bunnychae3887 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if you plan to make another video like this in the future but I would like to know your opinion/vocal analysis about kep1er's chaehyun
@foreverinsfired
@foreverinsfired Жыл бұрын
would you consider doing this for lead vocals as well?
@Rexille_Creative
@Rexille_Creative Жыл бұрын
Sorry if my english not fluent but i think for lead vocalist is winter or sullyoon maybe (in number 1) (imo)
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
Yeah but not too soon since this video took a lot of work
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Жыл бұрын
​@@Rexille_Creative winter
@uc6758
@uc6758 Жыл бұрын
​@@Rexille_Creative def winter. Sulyoon still has some work to achieve winter's level. But she would be on top too.
@kledi3817
@kledi3817 Жыл бұрын
i wouldn’t give G3 to Lily. she has very few good G3s. she’s rather only consistent with G#3 / A3. if you gave G3 to Lily you should also give it to Haewon cuz even Haewon has more G3s than Lily. i agree with pretty much everything else you said, i feel like a big problem for haewon is her nasality tho, especially when she doesn’t necessarily belt big long sustained notes. her placement is usually good for those like that sustained C5 you showed but a lot of the times she opts for this very nasal unpleasant sound which i wish she would fix SO SO BAD
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Жыл бұрын
Hm I rarely hear Haewon go down to G3 all too much. Even then, her and Lily lows aren't too far apart. I don't hear Haewon utilizing her stronger chest voice in her lows much.
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
Yeah. It’s a weird habit she has
@liftedb9591
@liftedb9591 Жыл бұрын
i mean G#3/A3 is kinda a stretch already czz she is usually muffled and quiet below A3/Bb3
@imfoive991
@imfoive991 Жыл бұрын
@@liftedb9591 nah now she should be given G#3/A3
@sumi3410
@sumi3410 Жыл бұрын
Idnt know liz had so many good clips, can u make a playlist of all of them pleae
@user-pj5eh6ii1k
@user-pj5eh6ii1k Жыл бұрын
The gripe I have with this is it only shows the note being used but it doesn't show how well the note is executed. There were a lot of shouted, unsupported and shaky notes when Lia sang live. Plus there are so many examples where heavy autotune is evident.
@ChrisBrengel
@ChrisBrengel Жыл бұрын
It is not just how high the note is, but how precisely on tune it is. All other things being equal, whoever has the most power wins. Some girls have just devastatingly beautiful voices-- that counts for a lot for me. IMHO, in order: Precisely on tune, range, power, the beauty of voice.
@Cupidador
@Cupidador Жыл бұрын
i'm suprised to not see goeun and swan of purple kiss on here or haram of billie
@rheynotryan
@rheynotryan Жыл бұрын
hi ningning has a D3 in dreams come true
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
Yeah i forgot
@rheynotryan
@rheynotryan Жыл бұрын
@@izonexbae she also has a Bb5 in the last chorus of salty and sweet
@saefanuraulia1576
@saefanuraulia1576 Жыл бұрын
Lia has the most beautiful tone ❤
@louisemccallum2345
@louisemccallum2345 Жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing the same video but for Nugu groups? Cherry Bullets Bora + Haeyoon, Weeekly’s Monday, Purple Kiss’s Swan, etc?
@iseulyah
@iseulyah Жыл бұрын
Based on the clips and how you described them. I’m guessing: 1. Lily 2. Haewon 3. NingNing 4. Liz 5. Lia 6. Yunjin 7. Sieun My personal preference tho (style, tone)- if everyone’s as confident as Lily and they sing in their most comfortable ranges: 1. Liz 2. Lia 3. Haewon 4. Yunjin 5. Ningning 6. Lily 7. Sieun
@iseulyah
@iseulyah Жыл бұрын
OMG i almost put Yunjin as top 4 (based it on the clips) but the description/analysis made me confused 😂 almost got everything right!
@daniel_cimiel
@daniel_cimiel Жыл бұрын
2-Lia.☠️☠️☠️
@iseulyah
@iseulyah Жыл бұрын
@@daniel_cimiel what's wrong?
@asdrubalalejandrosolorzano1847
@asdrubalalejandrosolorzano1847 Жыл бұрын
Okey but the intro tho>>>>>
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Жыл бұрын
hihi update😄
@zzzonline
@zzzonline Жыл бұрын
Could you maybe also analyze my voacls too lol?? 😂 I love singing and even had a childhood dream of becoming a singer haha but now I just do it for fun and as a hobby. I think I do have pretty good vocals but I cannot understand how my voice works 😅
@taeslilclown9801
@taeslilclown9801 Жыл бұрын
just realized how much Haewon sounds like Hani in her mid range
@wein7107
@wein7107 Жыл бұрын
HaeLy ended all of them period
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