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Battle of the Ports - Marvel VS Capcom (マーヴル VS. カプコン) Show

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Okay, here we go with yet another Capcom VS game but it will be the last one I'll be covering for the time being.
Will the PlayStation version be any good this time?
Time Code
00:23 - Arcade
03:15 - PlayStation
06:10 - Dreamcast
09:12 - All versions side by side
Enjoy!

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@HypnoSwag
@HypnoSwag 6 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this game is 20 years old. Seeing Mega Man and Venom originally, blew my 10 year old mind.
@fattonymondi
@fattonymondi 6 жыл бұрын
I did not wait for the US Dreamcast launch. I bought the Japanese one for this game and SoulCalibur (not to mention the excellent Toukon Retsuden and Giant Gram wrestling games!) I still have my Japanese Dreamcast console and play it every once in a while.
@ravagingwolverine
@ravagingwolverine 6 жыл бұрын
anthony mondi I did the same. The wait between the Japanese and US launches was too long by the late 90s.
@StevenCusic
@StevenCusic 6 жыл бұрын
The Strider theme is so #@$*** amped
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Gets you in the mood for sure.
@rockmanhunter
@rockmanhunter 6 жыл бұрын
"By the time Marvel VS. Capcom was launched, Saturn was dead." It's a shame they didn't keep supporting the Saturn, even with Dreamcast in the market. It would be an awesome version, no doubt.
@mortenera2294
@mortenera2294 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a Saturn version which uses the 4MB RAM expansion
@StudioBadGuy
@StudioBadGuy 6 жыл бұрын
so many hours playing this game on dreamcast, it was the first time me and my friends played an arcade perfect conversion.
@IncaWarrior3000
@IncaWarrior3000 6 жыл бұрын
I still have the dreamcast version of Marvel vs Capcom 1... but also Marvel vs Capcom 2. I never get bored of those games.
@NightSprinter
@NightSprinter 6 жыл бұрын
The assists can be selected by a combination of the Start button and certain punch/kick buttons. The PS1 version has an unlockable version of Rockman with the Magnetic Shockwave he is seen getting in his ending.
@Tempora158
@Tempora158 6 жыл бұрын
The PS1 port has voice samples that are sped up to fit the audio RAM, just like the voices in the SNES ports of the Street Fighter games
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I never noticed because the sample rate is so low.
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 5 жыл бұрын
I want to say ALL or at least the majority of sounds and voices were sped up on the PS1 version. To be frank, I’m amazed the port even turned out how it did, given that even the arcade ran into its sprite limits with this game.
@thrillington2008
@thrillington2008 6 жыл бұрын
I remember playing it on the dreamcast at a software etc and it's like the arcade and one of the best games in the genre
@SPac316
@SPac316 6 жыл бұрын
I know the PS1 had a huge installed base that's guaranteed a nice prophet turn for companies at the time, but still I wish Capcom never bothered to release the Vs. games on that console. But money talks, what can ya do. I feel sorry for those suckers who bought those ports. I got the Dreamcast a month after it released so I was more than eager to get this game. Still own it to this day along with MvC2.
@mortenera2294
@mortenera2294 2 жыл бұрын
The PS1 ports are still very playable, and most players wouldn't care about the missing animation frames as long as it's not a slide show (Am I right, Fatal Fury Special on Sega CD?)
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP
@orderofmagnitude-TPATP 6 жыл бұрын
Such a shame it never made saturn.... i Kane this hard on mame on my phone.... welcome to the future lol.
@newtypepunk9967
@newtypepunk9967 6 жыл бұрын
Actually played this the most on ps1 back in the day, obviously the worst port, but it was better than the previous ports of the series on PS1. Even though it was stupid, me and my friends used to use that feature of picking the same characters, just so we could make it feel like the arcade, so we could actually tag in and out.
@Artsensei86
@Artsensei86 6 жыл бұрын
There is no question Sega knew how to port arcade games.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Capcom actually ported these games to the Saturn and Dreamcast. capcom and Sega did get along very well though.
@A3manAMG
@A3manAMG 6 жыл бұрын
I still own the Dreamcast version. I'm glad I got that when I got my Dreamcast. I played that game for hours.
@liornachmias8980
@liornachmias8980 6 жыл бұрын
Such great anime graphics. Ashame they don’t make them like that anymore.
@cireza_
@cireza_ 5 жыл бұрын
Saturn deserved a couple more years. This would have lead to Marvel vs Capcom, Street Fighter III, Virtua Fighter 3 (which was basically complete anyway), Shenmue etc... Sega was out of the race against Sony anyway, so this would have given them the time to make a cheaper console than the Dreamcast (or at least it would have been cheaper to manufacture by that time), and target the core audience with a profitable product. All Saturn years were actually profitable for the company. The Dreamcast is one of the most well built and incredible console ever, but the price to pay for such a console in 1998 was many years of debts and negative results, which lead Sega to restructuring and getting out of the console business. This was not the arcade, it was home console territory. The race for having the most powerful console was absurd without the money to back this up. Sega really missed the point back then. They should have given up and tried to maintain profitability. After all, this is what Nintendo did after the failure of the Gamecube : give up on the race to the most powerful console. However Nintendo was not in a bad situation. I hope that one day we will get to see screenshots or videos of Virtua Fighter 3 on Saturn. I am sure that the port must be very impressive. Probably 320*224 and 30fps only, but still impressive.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
I'd also love to see what VF3 looked like on the Saturn. Hopefully one day we'll be able to see it.
@DragonSlayerKyo
@DragonSlayerKyo 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the Saturn one would have been perfect too. The special helpers are non-sequential when it comes to memory usage, as they've only programmed to do one thing(so they don't have too many frames. Hell, in U.S. Agent's case, he uses Cap's assets with a color swap.) To my eyes, it looks rather similar between the CPS-2 original and the DC port. I can't see much of a difference.
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 5 жыл бұрын
Rob Toohey the only thing I believe would’ve been a concern would’ve been performance. MvC1 was easily the most demanding of all of the CPS2 vs. series games where even the arcade ran into slowdown and flicker issues past a point. Especially on those screen filling supers. The Dreamcast had subtle frame rate issues with this too, often times on the busier stuff the game would frame skip down to 30 momentarily at the moments, and you can actually see it when that assist is dropping dice. Knowing what happened with SFA3 Saturn, which the arcade struggled with too, it would’ve been the same thing occurring here. That said, it would still blow out the PS1 version.
@AllieRX
@AllieRX 6 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Marvel vs. Capcom 2!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, it will be a a month or so before I cover that one.
@andree1991
@andree1991 6 жыл бұрын
it's been out for about 18 years mate.
@cesarjezreelmolina8030
@cesarjezreelmolina8030 6 жыл бұрын
andree1991 lol
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 5 жыл бұрын
There were 4 versions as i recall: Arcade, Dreamcast, XBOX & PlayStation 2.
@chunkycjw
@chunkycjw 6 жыл бұрын
I suppose the Dreamcast is a generation ahead of the Playstation, though i think the Saturn could have done a good job too with it's excellent 2D capabilities and even better with it's ram cart expansion.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
The Saturn would have been Arcade perfect since this is just a CPS2 game like a the other VS series.
@MANOFGOD9000
@MANOFGOD9000 4 жыл бұрын
While I don't think the PS1 version is the best, it is the most interesting port. They changed so much that its not even the same game! Here's some of the changes: 1. A round based game rather than a deathmatch 2. Supers could cancel into other supers 3. The camera would zoom in during an air combo 4. You selected assist or partner 5. Duo supers with partner you picked 6. Duo team attacks would clone the opponent and partner with them.
@joseagripino8664
@joseagripino8664 6 жыл бұрын
So sad that in this branch of the multiverse we didn't get a port for the mighty SEGA Satan.
@worsel555
@worsel555 6 жыл бұрын
Bring on the PS1 Fanboy Mental Gymnastics Competition as they try to do logical flips and leaps of logic to state why their version is "Teh best one!!1!"
@levidu99
@levidu99 6 жыл бұрын
Im yet to see a ps1 fan say that or even defend the capcom vs ports
@worsel555
@worsel555 6 жыл бұрын
Check the other videos ;)
@levidu99
@levidu99 6 жыл бұрын
Ken Williams just checked and no one was defending it, in fact everyone was throwing crap at it
@worsel555
@worsel555 6 жыл бұрын
Usually it's a couple of people who would complain that if the Saturn ports didn't use the RAM carts that it would be the worst version and that the PS1 looked and sounded better, and so on. Looks like they either deleted them after being told that the RAM expansion was required to play the game and not an "Expensive accessory" as they claimed or got forced way down the list of comments. Thankfully as these videos have been coming out it has been happening less and less as the arguments were pretty weak. Plus fanboys annoy me. I made a comment last video that if there is a port of a game that is better for another system it's gonna happen and just play it on that, your system cant be the best every time at everything. I used the amazing Nier Automata as an example, I dont own an XBox One X but that appears to be the best version to play it on, so if you have one go buy it and enjoy. I have it on PS4 and PC but I am not going to say "XBox sucks! PS4 version is better!" because it's not and that's insane :)
@worsel555
@worsel555 6 жыл бұрын
Arguments like this specifically: "I don't see the point of stacking stock hardware against hardware with an after market RAM expansion, of course it wins. If you want to maintain any semblance of balance it has to be stock hardware against stock hardware, it's not like the Saturn RAM expansions were even part of the regular Saturn set-up outside Japan."
@topofbones
@topofbones 6 жыл бұрын
This time, too much game for a PS1. Dreamcast was the perfect machine for this series of games!
@AlviEao
@AlviEao 6 жыл бұрын
And now we arrive at Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes! Now that's another game I have fond memories of playing in arcades. Not only was the insanity brought back into the fold, the Special Partner system was a different take on the Variable Assist feature in Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter, but with random Marvel and Capcom character cameos. The PlayStation version titled Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes EX Edition doesn't hold a candle to the Dreamcast version (which made Onslaught playable). Sure Rockman (Mega Man) acquiring Onslaught's Magnetic Shockwave was exclusive to the PS1 port, but that version still has the same issues that plagued the previous Marvel vs. Capcom titles as it stands.
@mr.needlemouse32x
@mr.needlemouse32x 6 жыл бұрын
since mvc origins is no longer available for purchase (to my knowledge) the Dreamcast version of MvC1 is THE BEST option. and for msh, you get the saturn port, and for mvc2 you get either the ps2 or Xbox port.
@krono5el
@krono5el 6 жыл бұрын
Sega was easily the best
@TheBf666
@TheBf666 6 жыл бұрын
The US release on the DC had the intro similar to the arcade release where there are more effects behind spiderman and more colorful background when you do the duo team attack.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I think they are missing from the Japanese one due to strobe effects being switch off by default. I should have switched them on.
@GlenLehane
@GlenLehane 3 жыл бұрын
And the outro music is the Strider Hiryu remix, hell to the yeah
@SoundFantasy
@SoundFantasy 6 жыл бұрын
If Saturn had gotten this it probably would have been a solid port based on how well marvel vs street fighter ran with the 4mb cart
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
It would have most likely been just the same as the Dreamcast version which is why it probably wasn't released on the Saturn. Sega needed some 2D fighting action for the DC but why buy a DC when you could play the same game at the same quality on a Saturn.
@TheRacingOtaku
@TheRacingOtaku 6 жыл бұрын
I really mained Strider and Mega Man in this game. If I ever wanted a quality 2D Fighter on the Playstation, I'd just get SFA3.
@alainazor3990
@alainazor3990 6 жыл бұрын
Arcade Sega Dreamcast & PS3 Origins ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐🏆 PS1 is ok + not good enough you can't switch your partner in the play game that's suck it was a big shame for ps1 and the arcade & Dreamcast can switch players partner very well with no problem
@Charlie-Cat.
@Charlie-Cat. 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite out of the series Mark. Marvel VS Capcom is just perfect for me. I have the Dreamcast version since launch date and loved it ever since. I did play the Arcade version, but the Dreamcast is my absolute best for me bro. Nice work Mark. This made my day for sure. 8^) Anthony..
@RaydenUMK3
@RaydenUMK3 6 жыл бұрын
Should of had a Saturn port, real disappointed back in the day when it was never announced
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I agree but I think we should be grateful just how long Capcom did support the Saturn with amazing arcade ports.
@MVC2fan1
@MVC2fan1 6 жыл бұрын
Because Sega Saturn has failed.
@MistaMaddog247
@MistaMaddog247 6 жыл бұрын
...only in the West, not in Japan.
@RetrOrigin
@RetrOrigin 6 жыл бұрын
Kind of sad this and also later SNK games like KOF98 and KOF99 weren't ported to the Saturn (as well as Sega's own Golden Axe 2: Revenge of Death Adder) It's a shame the Saturn was a such a hardware mess (making it unattractive to 3rd party developers, specially smaller ones) and Sega did such a poor job at supporting it too.
@RaydenUMK3
@RaydenUMK3 6 жыл бұрын
I agree, but they released SFZ3 on the saturn a whole 5 month after the Japanese release of MvC on the dreamcast.
@thefroyukenfiles3641
@thefroyukenfiles3641 6 жыл бұрын
3:35 - Was the "B" in "BEFORE" always missing or is it just in the PS1 version? Also one detail that was missing is that in the PS1 version, there were two separate modes: You can either pick a partner character or a special helper assist (freely instead of random); you couldn't have both like the arcade.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, oh my God, I never noticed that before. I'm sure it's in the arcade game.
@hansweiss469
@hansweiss469 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm... The "B" *is* in the English arcade intro. Pretty silly oversight with the Ps1 port.
@Bloodreign1
@Bloodreign1 3 жыл бұрын
Got this on PS1 for free from a friend (at least the loading screens had some nice artwork on them), and of course, the PS3 PSN release that came with Marvel Super Heroes, but has long been delisted from the PSN. Of course the PS3 version is emulation of the arcade, so everything is intact (tag battle and animation).
@CriminalCrimson
@CriminalCrimson 6 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast forever
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's not possible to use games from the same region. I do try to match as well as possible though.
@bhirawamaylana466
@bhirawamaylana466 6 жыл бұрын
I miss Jin, I still hoping he in new MvC, I also miss when he execute his Hyper Combo and yell "BLODIA", btw thanks for playing Jin theme at the end of video Mark.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
No worries. It's a good song.
@theamazingspiderman4911
@theamazingspiderman4911 5 жыл бұрын
Bhirawa Maylana hes dead
@movement1957
@movement1957 6 жыл бұрын
I miss Phantasy Star II
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 5 жыл бұрын
As do i, but we're talking about Marvel vs. Capcom.
@Ashura96
@Ashura96 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot the worst thing about the PS1 port. The God awful camera zoom in when you connect with a launcher and follow up for an air combo. I think it can be turned off at least.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, that is bloody annoying. When it first happened I thought the game was glitching out. It really looks awful.
@geoserenity
@geoserenity 6 жыл бұрын
Ah playstation...for such a great system, you sure do have a lot of crappy ports...
@BrainDesmo
@BrainDesmo 6 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast ver. ftw!
@ThomasMatthewByrne
@ThomasMatthewByrne 6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mark! The DC port looks glorious running in VGA mode on a proper CRT monitor too. Top tier 2D stuff on the system.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Hopefully I'll have a way to record some sweet VGA footage in the future.
@Bokeyjr
@Bokeyjr 6 жыл бұрын
I have the PlayStation version and played the Dreamcast version as well
@RedRanger2001
@RedRanger2001 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel in Japanese is also spelt as "マーベル". It was spelt like that in the opening credits of the Japanese Spider-Man TV show back in 1978.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 2 жыл бұрын
There are some none Japanese words that have different spellings. I'd which they'd make their mind up. Fantasy is another one. ファンタジー or ファンタシー.
@RyouWin
@RyouWin 6 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. But, unlike the old ones of this vs series, you forgot to tell about (in the Playstation version) the variable cross uses a copy of the enemy as a partner, that crappy zoom effect in the air combo (ex mode or something like this) and the extra selection at selection partner mode which uses the special partner striker or the player's partner like the system of Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter again.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
That zoom feature is horrible. I have no idea why they thought that would be cool.
@deadstrider
@deadstrider 6 ай бұрын
Strider Hiryu is so cool
@thomaskane7810
@thomaskane7810 5 жыл бұрын
the only way I can play this is through the Dreamcast version. I don't know where to find an arcade that has one. The PlayStation one is inferior, and you can't get Marvel vs. Capcom Origins anymore.
@martiusr2404
@martiusr2404 6 жыл бұрын
What a shame that none of those Marvel/Capcom crossovers was released on PC. If Saturn/Dreamcast could deal with arcade-quality ports, then surely PCs could do it as well.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I guess back then PC gamers were all about their Fps and RTS games. Quite different from today.
@cartok
@cartok 6 жыл бұрын
Flashing mode is off on dreamcast version !
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I switched it on after the opening section. It's off by default for some reason.
@MartellThaCool
@MartellThaCool 5 жыл бұрын
It's hard for me between arcade version and Sega Dreamcast version of Marvel Vs Capcom. In my opinion: Sega Dreamcast version won. I love the Dreamcast version over the arcade
@amerigocosta7452
@amerigocosta7452 6 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite vs fighters probably because it's very easy to enjoy it and very friendly even to newbies to the genre thanks to the various options. Top notch 2D graphics and sounds. Thankfully I completely missed out on the PSX version at the time!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean with it being friendly for newbies. Anyone can pick up and play this one.
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 5 жыл бұрын
Marvel vs. Capcom is the best game Capcom ever created. Had the Sega Saturn lived a little longer, the port of this would have been a blockbuster. Fortunately, the Dreamcast version was a godsend & i still play on occasion.
@alainazor3990
@alainazor3990 6 жыл бұрын
can you make marvel vs capcom 2 graphics comparison please i want to see how the difference for all versions have and how they look like that's gonna be awesome
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future.
@alainazor3990
@alainazor3990 6 жыл бұрын
yes please
@DSDMovies
@DSDMovies 4 жыл бұрын
I was convinced this came out on Saturn, it's even listed on Wikipedia as having come out, but apparently not! I remember it being listed in the import pages of games magazines at the time.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 4 жыл бұрын
You're thinking of Marvel Superheroes VS Street Fighter
@DSDMovies
@DSDMovies 4 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore I'm not, I own Marvel Super Heroes Vs Street Fighter, and X-Men Vs Street Fighter for Saturn.
@ppgranja3
@ppgranja3 6 жыл бұрын
MvC 1 is much better than MvC 2 in my opinion. It has more personality while MvC 2, even though a fun game, it's kinda blend and messy with all the characters blended and forgetable soundtrack.
@mastersproutgamer9327
@mastersproutgamer9327 Жыл бұрын
3:26 Go, webs, go!
@Medicint20
@Medicint20 6 жыл бұрын
You really should do a Capcom vs SNK 2 comparison
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future but since the Dreamcast is the Arcade the only real port is for the PS2. Or was it also on the Game Cube?
@Medicint20
@Medicint20 6 жыл бұрын
Retro Core yes it was. I would love to see Arcade vs Dreamcast vs PS2 vs Gamecube vs Xbox!
@Awinnerwasyou
@Awinnerwasyou 6 жыл бұрын
Personally, I kind of enjoyed the PS1 ports of MSHvSF and MVC for what they were,, but I can't doubt they were running on a console that didn't do 2D very well. With MSHvSF I had the excuses of not owning a Saturn at the time and the game never being released in the west, but with MvC I did have a Dreamcast and it did come west, so I can't quite figure out why I didn't get that version instead. Think I'll have to rectify that mistake someday and find a copy of the Dreamcast version. I really should.
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 5 жыл бұрын
Awinnerwasyou funny thing is the Dreamcast couldn’t really do 2D either. The biggest difference between that and the PS1 was that it had enough RAM and fillrate for them to be able to reverse engineer all the effects and recreate the engine properly. Dreamcast is not a sprite or raster based system either, but by that point consoles had enough power for it to be moot.
@firisrozley5768
@firisrozley5768 6 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed playing the first 2 MvC combined even more compared to MvC3 & MvC Infinite despite less rosters.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I think MvC 3 is passable but MVC Infinite is just crap.
@AaronRedding
@AaronRedding 6 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast is really crushing it when it comes to fighters made by capcom. I am not saying its arcade perfect... but its arcade perfect on the DC and the ps1 version sucks so bad
@juanmartinstehle5047
@juanmartinstehle5047 6 жыл бұрын
Aaron sucks so bad the PS1 version? Really? You're completely wrong.
@AaronRedding
@AaronRedding 6 жыл бұрын
Juan Martin Stehle you are right it’s worse than what I give it credit for. It plays differently the sound is awful and is like some one mixed it from a Edison cylinder recoding . The colors are off and the sprites look fuzzy and missing animations. Sorry there is no match between the 2 versions
@juanmartinstehle5047
@juanmartinstehle5047 6 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong it's a decent port and say that it's a terrible version is pretty stupid. It's my honest opinion. Back to the animation I'm not see missing animation in PS1 port.
@Charlymorfin
@Charlymorfin 6 жыл бұрын
Juan Martin Stehle There's no doubt, PS1 always sucks in fighting games, only RPG's are his strong point
@juanmartinstehle5047
@juanmartinstehle5047 6 жыл бұрын
Really???? A lot examples of 3D fighting games and good 2D fighting games faithful to the arcade version: Tekken, Street Fighter EX, Dead or Alive, Rival Schools: United by Fate, Street Fighter Alpha, Street Fighter Alpha 2, Street Fighter Alpha 3, Pocket Fighter, Cyberbots Fullmetal Madness. CLEAN YOUR HEAD.
@sparkfirehot
@sparkfirehot 5 жыл бұрын
I rented the Dreamcast version it was good close to the arcade👍
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
It is 99.9% identical to the Arcade 👍
@BlaximilianD00d
@BlaximilianD00d 6 жыл бұрын
No bullshit I've been watching a lot of marvel vs capcom 2 videos lately and even tried to download it to my phone to play it on my phone on a Dreamcast emulator but to no success. I've watched videos on how to do it but there phone is usually different from mine making things harder to do This is by far my favorite fighting game franchise. I like the fast paced fighting it brings.
@CAPCOM784
@CAPCOM784 6 жыл бұрын
AlexanderTheGr8 Can always get Marvel vs Capcom 2 on Xbox or PS2.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Nah, you need it on the Dreamcast.
@zemaj0
@zemaj0 6 жыл бұрын
cool video again I used to love playing Marvel vs Capcom in the arcade and on my PlayStation as that's the only thing I had but to be honest with you I think it pushed the PlayStation to its limits I remember being amazed at the game was even on the PlayStation
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed too. I don't know what they bothered.
@AngelicaFanGirl
@AngelicaFanGirl 9 ай бұрын
Good vid. You should do Marvel vs Capcom 2 battle of the ports. Just an idea since I saw you didn't do one yet.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 9 ай бұрын
It's on the list of to do titles.
@AngelicaFanGirl
@AngelicaFanGirl 9 ай бұрын
@@RetroCore Ah ok, understood.
@fulgenzio1973
@fulgenzio1973 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, actually I'm seeing all your previous videos on TV via KZfaq and are simply amazing. Do plan to cover dragon s lair in the future? Also it could be useful a complete list of all the games covered cause the Playlist are very long now.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I will be doing Dragon's Lair in the future but I'm not sure when. As for a list, I d have an excel file which I could link to I guess.
@lightdark28
@lightdark28 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair to Capcom , at least the PS1 port doesn't slow down everywhere like XvsSF, even if the game is slower overall. Its really about as good as it was going to get given the source material. Shame the Saturn never got a port of MvsC , it would have been a wonderful way for Capcom to end its run on the system as opposed to Final Fight Revenge (I like to pretend as if SFZ3 is its final game). Still the Dreamcast version is great, even if the controller is a little clunky. It actually looks pretty good running at 480p in VGA.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I don't count Final Fight revenge since it was by Capcom USA and in my mind that's not Capcom 😉
@lightdark28
@lightdark28 6 жыл бұрын
it still baffles me how they could have made a game that looks worse than VF2....5 years later, and when it wasn't even a port
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
US programming. That's all I'm going to say. Back then they were awful.
@lightdark28
@lightdark28 6 жыл бұрын
At least at Capcom , the game obviously took alot from the 3D SF games on the Playstation at the time (probably used the same engine, which may be why it looks like ass)
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Quite possibly a different engine due to the 2D backgrounds and higher resolution but why did that game need the 4Mbit Ram cart?
@MahmoudEhab2023
@MahmoudEhab2023 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video man and of course I'm saying that the dreamcast port is the best port to play this game at home yup.. so when the neo geo special is going to be released?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I've done all the game footage and now just need to record my sections to camera and the voice over then edit everything together. Probably it will be ready in another week. I can't finish it this week because the next Battle of the Ports will feature about 18 ports so that's eating up a lot of time.
@MahmoudEhab2023
@MahmoudEhab2023 6 жыл бұрын
And what is the next battle of the ports video? I mean what is this game that has so much ports man ?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
It's a secret 😋 I can tell you it's an old game by Namco and not Pac-Man related.
@MahmoudEhab2023
@MahmoudEhab2023 6 жыл бұрын
So when it's going to be released? I mean I have been recently watching a lot of the battle of the ports videos and even I watched some of the old series and the videos when you go to the arcade or awesome game stores I mean great channel man and I hope it can go a lot and a lot better dude really I love your channel man
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mahmoud Ehab. Well, Battle of the Ports is released every Saturday morning (Japanese time). I also try to get a video out on a Wednesday. This week will be a Chinese hardware review.
@VTKC
@VTKC 6 жыл бұрын
Ah the last crossover to have all 6 attack buttons. How I miss those days. I hated how they changed it. Then made it even worse by changing it even mo're in later crossovers.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. The latest button configuration is awful :(
@Galdelico
@Galdelico 6 жыл бұрын
Easily my favourite Vs. game in the series. Interesting to see even the DC port seems to lack some of the arcade intro effects (as in, behind Spidey and during the 2 characters combos)... I wonder if it was due to hw limitations of maybe to avoid excessive screen flashing at home?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Dreamcast version has an option to switch on or off the strobe effects. It's set to off as default which is why the strobe effects are missing from the intro.
@Galdelico
@Galdelico 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, it's the FIRST game I bought at the Japanese Dreamcast launch, yet I was completely unaware of that option until now. Thanks for the tip!
@SomeOrangeCat
@SomeOrangeCat 6 жыл бұрын
These never did anything for me. As backwards as it sounds, MK's rougher around the edges gameplay was more my bag. I was cool that they got the voice cast from the X-Men cartoon to reprise their roles though.
@Video-Games-Are-Fun
@Video-Games-Are-Fun 6 жыл бұрын
dreamcast version is the THE BEST because it has the FLASH OFF option. that does not exist anywhere else (not sure if it exists on the jpn arcade board). it shuts of all screen flashes so you can play cleanly
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's actually off by default too. This is why the intro looks different on this video compared to the Arcade.
@worsel555
@worsel555 6 жыл бұрын
I had heard about the PS1 version on the last video so I checked it out. One of the weirdest decisions in that version is that when you do an aerial combo the screen keeps zooming in on your character with every hit you land. Look it up on other KZfaq videos to see what I am talking about, it's jarring.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, that's is so true. A very strange and silly effect.
@rocko0214
@rocko0214 6 жыл бұрын
I suck at this game, but it is by far my favorite fighting game EVER. I know there are many games considered way better, but this one is the golden standard for me.
@mrmadmight266
@mrmadmight266 6 жыл бұрын
I first played this game with the PS1 version, i didn't notice anything wrong, but that's oviously cause i never played the arcade version, what i did notice though was the low quality of the SFX. i think Capcom would've been better by streaming the music instead. from what i can tell, this game has the music recorded, and each song loops a lot of times, hence they probably took a lot of space in the disc. i think that was the real problem with these PS1 ports, the fact that they didn't bother to stream the music like in a cartridge game to save space.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Adding streamed music, such as playing it from the CD would take up way more disc space. For example, you can fit over a hundred high quality mp3 files on a CD but only about 15 to 17 full music tracks.
@mrmadmight266
@mrmadmight266 6 жыл бұрын
I still think the way they tried to get around the lack of space seemed kinda lazy, i'm not sure how streamed songs worked on a CD format compared to game cartridges but i guess there's something in particular i'm not seeing that makes the big difference. oh well i enjoyed the PS1 version anyway but the only thing that makes it worth having is the gallery in my honest opinion.
@jeremycline9542
@jeremycline9542 6 жыл бұрын
Nice one.
@dbnpoldermans4120
@dbnpoldermans4120 6 жыл бұрын
What do you mean with 4 characters at the same time in the dreamcast version? 4 players? or 2 players vs 2 cpu or 1 player + cpu VS 2player + cpu?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
4 players apparently although I've not tried it myself.
@dbnpoldermans4120
@dbnpoldermans4120 6 жыл бұрын
thx, I just found a video of it kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nZqooNdi1J3dgWw.htmlm12s So it is 2 vs 2 players, just not on screen at the same time like I was hoping for.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, you were hoping for a kind of Power Stone mode? That would have been cool.
@ExtremeWreck
@ExtremeWreck 6 жыл бұрын
Silly Mark, ya' know Marvel will be able to use their powers. That'll make it easy for them.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
That's for sure.
@williamhowe1
@williamhowe1 6 жыл бұрын
How did SEGA lose to Sony!?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Lots of poor management and western gamers going for the club image of the PlayStation. Or at least in the UK. In Japan the Saturn sold 5 million units so it was fairly successful. It even outsold the PlayStation at one point in its life.
@williamhowe1
@williamhowe1 6 жыл бұрын
Retro Core Kind of like WCW.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Kind of, I guess.
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 5 жыл бұрын
Blame the mismanagement at the American end of SEGA.
@sdekaar
@sdekaar 6 жыл бұрын
the dreamcast version looks blurry. composite capture?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Nope, S-Video. Need to fix my RGB cable for the Dreamcast.
@aaron_aj_knight_95
@aaron_aj_knight_95 4 жыл бұрын
With me being a PS1 collector, I'm going for the Playstation port, although it's the worst version. But, I'm also waiting for my local Pricebusters to have a Dreamcast in stock so I can try the arcade perfect port as an alternative. I can't play the Origins version cause it got taken down from digital stores.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, digital media is the work of the devil.
@bombjack1984
@bombjack1984 6 жыл бұрын
PS1 port 'might be the worst of them all'? There's only two ports...!
@amazingeric97
@amazingeric97 6 жыл бұрын
I would recommend playing Street Fighter Alpha/Zero 3 instead of 2 like the video suggests.
@atomiswave2
@atomiswave2 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Alpha 3 is too gimmicky and all my favorite characters are watered down. Plus the custom combo system is broken from Alpha 2.
@danmakuman
@danmakuman 6 жыл бұрын
Well, that one too. Both are great games tho
@mortenera2294
@mortenera2294 2 жыл бұрын
No, Alpha 2 Gold is the way to go
@art2k179
@art2k179 6 жыл бұрын
You should do street fighter alpha series or marvel vs capcom 2
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I did the Street Fighter Zero series, all 3 of them 👍
@art2k179
@art2k179 6 жыл бұрын
Retro Core thats cool ill check them out and keep it up you videos are really good
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ervin Art
@basshunter2007
@basshunter2007 6 жыл бұрын
Wonder why it was never on Sega Saturn
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I guess Sega wanted some exclusives for the Dreamcast in the world of 2D Fighters. The system at the time didn't have any.
@basshunter2007
@basshunter2007 6 жыл бұрын
Retro Core Dreamcast didn’t need 2D fighters was so very bad ones and Dreamcast controller was no good for them like playing a fighter with a N64 controller
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
True but IN Japan we had the Ascii NT pad and official Arcade joysticks. So it wasn't a problem.
@ohjoshua67
@ohjoshua67 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why this game did not get a SEGA Saturn port because, The Saturn was failing in the Market and SEGA eventually had enough, And they decided to end the console's lifespan.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, Saturn was successful in Japan.
@ohjoshua67
@ohjoshua67 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore Yeah, I know. But it failed in America.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 3 жыл бұрын
That won't stop the release of this game. After all, the other Capcom fighters also never got a US release. The last game released for the Saturn (well, technically second to last) was Final Fight Revenge by Capcom. That was released after this game.
@ohjoshua67
@ohjoshua67 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore But at least we can be thankful for the Dreamcast.
@devingiles6597
@devingiles6597 2 жыл бұрын
@@ohjoshua67 Not to mention, Europe.
@gabrielloko30000
@gabrielloko30000 6 жыл бұрын
It's kinda funny that many people don't know some of the Guest Characters, Like the Unknow soldiers, The Three Wonders, Alpha(Mobi-Chan) aaand tje list goes on. By the way, i just saw you choosing Strider Hiryu for a mile off, i mean, we talking about motherfucking Strider!!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
What can I say, I like Strider :) I do know all of the Capcom assisting characters such as the short guy from Three Wonders bug I'm not too well up on the Marvel side.
@metalcoola
@metalcoola 6 жыл бұрын
When i first played it in 2000 on PS One, i've played lots of arcade games on emulator, so i've recognized quite a lot of guest characters, and was surprised Capcom remembered them :)
@SuperKillerdreams
@SuperKillerdreams 6 жыл бұрын
Do capcom VS snk 1 and 2 next for the the dreamcast for battle of the ports please! 💯☺️
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry. The next show is already made as is the one after that. I'll add it to the list though.
@SuperKillerdreams
@SuperKillerdreams 6 жыл бұрын
Retro Core ok! 😋 and give me your thoughts on the arcade on rail light gun shooter ninja assault for the PS2 now it was made for the Naomi arcade hardware but ported to the PS2 But the PS2 had no Naomi hardware In it but yet it was still said to be arcade perfect ? How could that be
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I own that game but have not played it much.
@SuperKillerdreams
@SuperKillerdreams 6 жыл бұрын
Retro Core is it arcade perfect?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know because I've only ever seen the Arcade game once. It looks close enough but I couldn't say if it was Arcade perfect.
@e.l.4409
@e.l.4409 6 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for a game that's been ported to lots of consoles - Skyrim.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not buying a load of skyrim games. I have it on the Xbox One and that's enough 😉 Games need to be Arcade original to feature on Battle Of The Ports.
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 5 жыл бұрын
Did i mention that Morrigan is my waifu...😍
@SoftBank47
@SoftBank47 6 жыл бұрын
Best game in the Marvel vs. series. Orders of magnitude better than Marvel vs. Capcom 2. Don't @ me.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Quite a lot of people seem to enjoy this one more than the second. I quite like the second game myself but the 3rd is just about playable with the fourth being pretty bad.
@SoftBank47
@SoftBank47 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree with Marvel Infinite being bad. The combo structure is as open-ended as it has ever been, and the creativity people continue to find when labbing combos is absolutely insane. People are still finding routes and Touch of Death combos despite the damage scaling (which MvC3 didn't have).
@ohjoshua67
@ohjoshua67 3 жыл бұрын
The PlayStation version was poorly reviewed, Because of Loading Times, Missing Frame Animations, etc. I don't know why Capcom make fighting games on the PlayStation bad, But the sequel, Marvel vs. Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes, Had a good PlayStation 2 port. But the predecessor, On the previous PlayStation console was bad.
@KRS2000
@KRS2000 2 жыл бұрын
I only got to play the Playstation version. Everytime it got to Zangief, Morrigan, or Jin, the damn game kept freezing and I'd have to restart the Playstation everytime. I'm not sure if it was a faulty copy, or because I was constantly renting it and other people scratched the disc up. Either way I got really angry everytime.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a bad disc if it was always crashing on the same characters.
@KRS2000
@KRS2000 2 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore I'm thinking it was. It wouldn't freeze if I used any of those characters, which was weird, but if their picture showed up for the loading screen, BOOM, instant freeze.
@MitsuhashiTakashi
@MitsuhashiTakashi 6 жыл бұрын
why did capcom never port anything to n64?
@KoSLoW27
@KoSLoW27 6 жыл бұрын
A t h s t e t i c A n d r o i d/GamingGutter playing this game with the regular n64 controller would be a nightmare OO
@japanis1382
@japanis1382 6 жыл бұрын
Because the n64 sucked
@MitsuhashiTakashi
@MitsuhashiTakashi 6 жыл бұрын
d pad and six face buttons so probably not
@MitsuhashiTakashi
@MitsuhashiTakashi 6 жыл бұрын
and it dosnt have a balanced library and no cds is the only reason its not better
@TheRacingOtaku
@TheRacingOtaku 6 жыл бұрын
Because playing any Capcom 2D Fighter on an N64 Controller is pretty much hell on buttons.
@atomiswave2
@atomiswave2 6 жыл бұрын
Too bad it never came out on saturn. I just cant get past the dreamcast controller.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
No worries. there are many options. Back in the day I used the Dreamcast arcade stick or the FT Pad which was released by Ascii specifically for Capcom and SNK fighting games. These days I just use a Dreamcast to Saturn pad converter. It allows me to use ever Saturn controller, stick, wheel on the Dreamcast.
@vasileios6301
@vasileios6301 6 жыл бұрын
I understand that you werent a gamer back then because you think these 2d Psx ports werent playable and fun on it,but thats not the case.Psx owners enjoyed all these ''bad'' ports back then,like previously gamers did with 16bit console ports like Street Fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat who were far from perfect on a Snes or Megadrive but all the core fun was there. Sure for todays standarts noone will touch it on Psx anymore but that also counts for Dreamcast,because anyone on his laptop can fire up Mame or Finaburn and play the original arcade game perfectly and for free :)
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, I've been a gamer since 1988. I'm 42 😉. PSX owners enjoyed this gimped ports because they didn't know any better or didn't have access to better versions. Just how Saturn fans probably enjoyed their ports of Wipe Out 1 and 2 although they weren't the best. But when we compare ports side by side the PSX version of this game is not fun compared to how it should be. I'm not saying it isn't playable but I am saying it's not a great port.
@vasileios6301
@vasileios6301 6 жыл бұрын
Ok then :)
@MartellThaCool
@MartellThaCool 5 жыл бұрын
Will play Marvel Vs Capcom on my Emulator soon via Dreamcast emulator. Sad that Disney ruined Marvel games.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the last two were not much fun IMO.
@MartellThaCool
@MartellThaCool 5 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore Marvel Vs Capcom 3 and infinite was hot garbage, sad to say
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