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Battle of the Ports - Super Street Fighter II X / Turbo (スーパーストリートファイターII X) Show

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So many of you have requested for the 3DO version of Super Street Fighter II X / Turbo on my old Super Street Fighter II video (even though that was a different game) that I've finally got around to making the follow up - Super Street Fighter II X / Turbo.
Time Code
00:28 - Arcade
03:16 - PlayStation
05:44 - Game Boy Advance
07:52 - 3DO
10:12 - Saturn
13:03 - Dreamcast
15:26 - MS DOS
17:43 - XBOX 360
19:46 - Amiga CD32
21:39 - All versions side by side
Enjoy!

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@reerjgiorge
@reerjgiorge 4 жыл бұрын
The pc version was one of the most impressive adaptations ive ever bought. Including the music, amazing quality. And the package... was simply gorgeous.
@thiagomartini4202
@thiagomartini4202 4 жыл бұрын
His ears must be bugged to say the music on PC version is "poor"... 16:00 it's simply the best among all ports! And the missing animations were corrected with 1.6 patch
@Bartnick81
@Bartnick81 3 жыл бұрын
From what I recall and see here PC version didn't run in 50/60 fps which is deal breaker
@dropkickmonk3y
@dropkickmonk3y 3 жыл бұрын
PC version was and still is one of the best out there. Didn’t like the adlib-sound card version, prefer the redbook audio.
@camulodunon
@camulodunon 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bartnick81 yes, it did so long as your PC isn't crap.
@Bartnick81
@Bartnick81 3 жыл бұрын
@@camulodunon Retrocore has crap PC? Or it is dos emulation fault.
@crunchsixfoe
@crunchsixfoe 5 жыл бұрын
They don't call the Dreamcast version "For Matching Service", for nothing ;)
@IceDelight
@IceDelight 6 жыл бұрын
HD Remix wasn't that bad. You could change the sprites back to the originals (not the backgrounds though) and its netcode was fantastic. When it came out, there weren't many places or people in person to play with anymore, so playing online was great. The remixed music was better than any of the older remixes (like 3DO) and by the way, the version in this video was the beta, Ken was changed a lot in the final version. Also many versions before this had little choice when it came to arcade joysticks, but the Xbox 360 and PS3 had great ones. Unless you built your own for older consoles, the best you could get was the official Dreamcast stick. But even that was only as good as the lowest end sticks on 360.
@MVC2fan1
@MVC2fan1 6 жыл бұрын
Trial version
@DJZeeJay
@DJZeeJay 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the soundtrack. The remixed soundtrack was done by composers who'd have their works posted at the Overclocked remix website. And they were really good!
@TheGemini5
@TheGemini5 4 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% I love the soundtrack!
@mariosonicfan8312
@mariosonicfan8312 4 жыл бұрын
You can play the original soundtracks in HD Turbo too..
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 3 жыл бұрын
The original sprites in HDR were washed out, though, really wasn't a pleasant look. THAT part, I feel was a rush job. They just threw the most ghastly, cheap filter they could find and called it a day. Rest of the package was pretty good, though.
@ahuman9864
@ahuman9864 3 жыл бұрын
SF2 is definitely in the top 5 most iconic soundtracks. Up there with Mario, Sonic, Streets of Rage and Outrun
@FinalBaton
@FinalBaton 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. My fave way to play the game is the Dreamcast port, with a Total Control 3 adapter that lets me use the Saturn pad. I also play the rom on Fightcade.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 7 жыл бұрын
The Total Control 3 adaptor is a must for Dreamcast fighting fans. I use one myself too.
@greenchilaquiles
@greenchilaquiles 6 жыл бұрын
Seconded. Through VGA Toro box into a vga monitor
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroCore mine stopped working after 13 times or so then I bought expensive asaii 6 button controller but thats too much money
@coffee84
@coffee84 3 жыл бұрын
So addicted to the battle of Ports series :)
@TheRealDustinNunn
@TheRealDustinNunn 6 жыл бұрын
The arcade, Saturn and Dreamcast versions of SSF2T/SSF2TX are the best, hands down.
@steve5123456789
@steve5123456789 5 жыл бұрын
What's best between the saturn and dreamcast version?
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 3 жыл бұрын
@TrueSinister some say saturn because Saturn's 6 button controller
@radiantansel202
@radiantansel202 2 жыл бұрын
@@rustymixer2886 Controller is not a factor to prefer a port, the DC version is superior, bar none Want to use another controller? Go use an adapter or arcade stick It's very stupid to prefer a port that could be worse just because your default controller is better
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 2 жыл бұрын
@@radiantansel202 yes it is, the dpad on dc sucks compared to Saturn's and 6 face buttons are better than 4...ok play street fighter on 3do controller then, good luck 💡
@stucazzo2000
@stucazzo2000 Жыл бұрын
@@rustymixer2886 I'm late to the party... :) I just played the Dreamcast version, and was not impressed by the music quality in it. It seemed like it was coming from a tin can or something was dialed way up in the mixing of the audio. I'm about to try the Saturn port for the audio.
@bawitback
@bawitback 8 жыл бұрын
Saturn and Dreamcast are the best for me.
@bryantnonya8704
@bryantnonya8704 5 жыл бұрын
Sega Saturn and Dreamcast will forever be the king of 2D fighters!
@ps-lover8380
@ps-lover8380 5 жыл бұрын
@@bryantnonya8704 what about s n e s
@bryantnonya8704
@bryantnonya8704 5 жыл бұрын
@@ps-lover8380 the SNES actually deserves to be on the list somewhere because of its ability to bring high-quality albeit a bit downgraded ports of some of the most popular arcade fighters to home console... this was a really big deal being able to stay home and play against your friends on a home console without having to dump money into a machine and if your of a younger generation you probably won't have an appreciation for just how pivotal that was in the eruption of home consoles becoming favored over arcade machines...
@greensun1334
@greensun1334 3 жыл бұрын
@@ps-lover8380 i have it, play it, love it! This Game push the Limits of the SNES, looks and sounds much better than the 3DO- or AmigaCD32-Ports and the Gameplay is near Arcade-perfect! And this in just 16bit... Amazing!
@ps-lover8380
@ps-lover8380 3 жыл бұрын
@@greensun1334 yeah exactly
@ThatWhiskeylovinAsianGuy
@ThatWhiskeylovinAsianGuy 8 жыл бұрын
when you said the hd remix version is rubbish, you are quite correct, sir.
@mOczakowski
@mOczakowski 5 жыл бұрын
More specifically the controls are weak, music and graphics are quite well gone.
@Ninja-Hayate
@Ninja-Hayate 5 жыл бұрын
A celshaded Street Fighter II game would look better than Udon's garbage.
@najma9857
@najma9857 4 жыл бұрын
Are you gay?
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 6 жыл бұрын
One thing that’s not mentioned is that no version got the Q Sound stereo separation correct up until the Dreamcast and then Hyper SF2 on PS2 and on.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
That is true.
@magalhaes5243
@magalhaes5243 5 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast wins! Perfect!
@BIGGIEDEVIL
@BIGGIEDEVIL 2 жыл бұрын
The controller is complete garbage for fighting games
@typhoonth8689
@typhoonth8689 Жыл бұрын
@@BIGGIEDEVIL Dreamcast had many third-party controllers. Fighting stick is not exception.
@Schmeck626
@Schmeck626 8 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this battle episode for a long time. I spent the last year searching for the most authentic Super Street Fighter II Turbo experience. After playing almost every version in this episode I gave up and bought the CPS2 arcade board. It cost a small fortune, but it was only slightly more expensive than the Dreamcast version. I love the show, keep up the good work.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
+Schmeck626 the CPS version would be the ultimate way to go but if a console version way the only option then you'd be so write to go with the Dreamcast version. Thats a fantastic port.
@thejacquio771
@thejacquio771 8 жыл бұрын
+Retro Core Yes, the dreamcast version is definitely the best port. I also have two different ascii ft pads for the dreamcast, so I do not have to deal with the mediocre dreamcast controller. SSF2X also looks very impressive playing on a HD television with the use of a vga cord.
@juanmartinstehle5047
@juanmartinstehle5047 6 жыл бұрын
-The Best: Saturn version. -The Worst: Amiga CD32.
@jbmaru
@jbmaru 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Battle, I only saw the 3DO and DOS port when they came out, and vaguely heard of some of the other ones. So it's great to watch a summary in one video.
@luisreyes1963
@luisreyes1963 5 жыл бұрын
This time, there are 2 superior ports for Sega systems, the Dreamcast & Saturn. I find nothing wrong with the HD Remix of Super Street Fighter II Turbo for the XBOX 360, as the backgrounds got a much needed visual boost. And Cammy is still a cutie!
@Ai-fj1dc
@Ai-fj1dc 7 жыл бұрын
Super Street Fighter II X. That game is pure gold. It's, like, the fighting game that definitely got me in the genre.
@SegaFanatic5188
@SegaFanatic5188 8 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast and Saturn are probably the best ports. Only real downside to the Saturn version is it runs at 352x224 instead of 384x224 like the Arcade, Dreamcast, and PS1 versions.
@TheCooterpuppet
@TheCooterpuppet 6 жыл бұрын
TrekkiesUnite you can skew the resolution on a framemeister - but it’s still a tad off, hardly noticeable on a modern tv though
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 6 жыл бұрын
It was 320 x 224. The PS1 ports were 360 x 224. Often times on Saturn because of this the character appeared larger, but the overall play field were smaller and lifebars either got moved around, or when applicable the character portraits got moved under the health bars instead of to the side of them.
@Silanda
@Silanda 6 жыл бұрын
As good as it is, IMO they were a little lazy with some aspects of the Saturn port. Even if they couldn't have easily scaled all the graphics to account for the difference in resolution, they certainly should have done something about the character select screen. It's not so bad on Turbo, but plain Super has text cut off the sides of the screen. Sloppy and easily noticeable. Judging from other ports like Symphony of the Night on the Saturn, X-Men: CoTA on PC, etc, I guess the tools to automatically scale graphics without ugly nearest neighbour artefacts weren't readily available at the time. Some ports did manage it though.
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 5 жыл бұрын
Silanda that would require a rework of the graphics, and by this point most companies wanted to leave that element of the 16 bit era behind. Especially for games like this. Also for the above, the Dreamcast version is 640x480 with upscale visuals.
@FinalBaton
@FinalBaton 2 жыл бұрын
Saturn runs at 320 I'm pretty sure. And I think so does the dreamcast (well 320 doubled to 640). The ps1 actually has a 384 mode, which is what the Street Fighter Alpha 3 port runs at actually.
@JoeyJ0J0
@JoeyJ0J0 4 жыл бұрын
3DO port was incredible, the new soundtrack was great. I have so many versions of Super Turbo, the GBA version was decent
@SaminPK
@SaminPK 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. great comparison. However missing Street Fighter 15th Anniversary collection from PS2 and Original Xbox. These were arcade perfect ports with enhanced music and a more reasonable difficulty.
@danholo
@danholo 8 жыл бұрын
I quite enjoy the HD Remix OST. Enjoyable episode, thanks.
@someinterwebguy6452
@someinterwebguy6452 8 жыл бұрын
It looks like the DC and Saturn ports are the ones to get. The GBA port is pretty fun to play as well. I always regretted that Capcom didn't bring Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo to the SNES/Genesis instead of the regular version, as those consoles did a decent job with the game IMO. It would have been nice to see a 32X version of Turbo as well. Thanks for another great episode.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
+Someinterweb guy It really is so trange the way the SFC / SNES didn't get it but did get Street Fighter Zero 2 / Alpha 2. But as it stands I think the best home port is the Dreamcast version using a Saturn control pad via an adapter. If that's not an option then the Saturn port is the one to get.
@earlduran6419
@earlduran6419 5 жыл бұрын
If you use headset then you listen very closely the PlayStation does have little audio compression.
@Arcadiality
@Arcadiality 8 жыл бұрын
I love the Saturn version. It plays well enough for me and with the jp pad it's a nice play. The SF2 collection on Saturn is my most favourite though, an awesome disc.
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 3 жыл бұрын
What games are on it? Sfa2gold and ssf2turbo?
@AceTrainerX3
@AceTrainerX3 2 жыл бұрын
@@rustymixer2886 Disc 1 has Super and Super Turbo/X, while Disc 2 has Alpha 2 Gold/Zero 2'
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 2 жыл бұрын
@@AceTrainerX3 ah thought gold was exclusive to ps1, cool on saturn
@GuiSantosMUGEN
@GuiSantosMUGEN 6 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast is the best and most complete port for sure!
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 6 жыл бұрын
Gui Santos of straight up Super Turbo, no doubt. You could even make that version have properties of specific revisions of the game through dip switches.
@alexojideagu
@alexojideagu 8 жыл бұрын
How can you say the MS-DOS music is poor? Much of it is better than the 3DO port
@SuperKokuJin916
@SuperKokuJin916 8 жыл бұрын
Zangief, Cammy and Blanka's were pretty good arrangements in particular.
@totalprocall6894
@totalprocall6894 5 жыл бұрын
Hyper Street Fighter 2 on PS2 is all anyone ever needs.
@Linkenfant
@Linkenfant 7 жыл бұрын
Now include Ultra SFII for Nintendo Switch :) Great video!
@retrovideogamejunkie
@retrovideogamejunkie 7 жыл бұрын
it the same xbla/psn version with 2 mugen characters...
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 6 жыл бұрын
retrovideogamejunkie It uses HDR’s art, but it’s a totally different game. From what I understand, Hyper Street Fighter 2 is used as its base, and there are several changes totally different from HDR.
@MVC2fan1
@MVC2fan1 6 жыл бұрын
You mean 2 characters from different fighting games (instead of mugen characters). One from Capcom Vs. SNK 2: Mark of the Millennium, and one from SVC Chaos: SNK Vs. Capcom.
@SuperKokuJin916
@SuperKokuJin916 8 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that the HD Remix version allows you to play with the original sprites, hitboxes, and music for the purist hardcore fans that didn't like the new changes. It's a great version if you have an arcade stick... but, yeah, the Saturn version is the best outside of the arcade.
@andy7666
@andy7666 8 жыл бұрын
Having played SFII on SNES as a kid and drooling over the arcade versions of the franchise for so many years I'm still always chuffed to play a great conversion like the Saturn and Dreamcst ports (and in RGB on a CRT). Great stuff, you can't beat that! I personally really liked the HD Remix - it does what it says on the tine, the music was alright too, especially Zangiefs stage - it's not "Cammy level" standard by any means but nice and the tunes are decent overall..
@z3ntn3l
@z3ntn3l 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Yakumo! Really nice video and thanks for your work! One thing i noticed: The aspect ratio of the PS1 version video capture seems to be wrong (is it widescreen?) and it looks really weird/distorted. Probably just a non-original resolution setting in the emulator.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
This is an issue I have with PlayStation emulation. The video intros are all fine at 4:3 ratio but the actual in game graphics are always stretched. They're not true 16:9 wide-screen but close. I've tried fixing this problem with different settings but can never get it right.
@mOczakowski
@mOczakowski 5 жыл бұрын
Man Capcom really milked the hell out of SF2 series on all the consoles, except one... NeoGeo, which was about 4X more powerful than CPS1 arcade board, and it would have been a fantastic port for the NeoGeo fans (one more fighter on the console :P)
@genstarmkg5321
@genstarmkg5321 5 жыл бұрын
Well, but at the time, Capcom was competing with SNK in the arcade boards side, that's why we didn't see a Neo Geo port, we instead got this console by Capcom called the CPS Changer which is basically the arcade board on a console. And yes, it received SF2 ports.
@dropkickmonk3y
@dropkickmonk3y 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the MS DOS Version.
@mrmadmight266
@mrmadmight266 6 жыл бұрын
I L♡VE the MS-DOS version of SSF2X/Turbo along with the CD soundtrack, it may not be as great as the soundtrack of the 3DO and FM-Towns versions but it's a nice attempt to refresh the soundtrack while offering something new, and it's miles better than the soundtrack of the recent versions. the AI however acts a little weird sometimes cause they cancel certain moves that they would do in any other version, and i also noticed that Vega/Balrog doesn't lose his claw after taking some hits. but the most interesting thing on the DOS version is that you can fight Gouki in some ocasions even if your using continues with Bison/Vega, though sadly Gouki's theme doesn't exist in the DOS version. Flaws aside it does play well and it's a nice package considering the DOS version apparently was fairly cheap when it came out, you could even send a mail i think, and they would send you a controller, though i belive it was a 4 button controller which is bad cause everyone knows SF2 works better with a 6 button joystick.
@Ramjet164
@Ramjet164 7 жыл бұрын
I have the 3do, gba & dreamcast versions. The 3do was by far the best port when released, the gba port is solid for a handheld port and the dreamcast port is beautiful!
@daitenshi9124
@daitenshi9124 5 жыл бұрын
07:24 - My gracious, that punish was sick.
@sabishiihito
@sabishiihito 7 жыл бұрын
The biggest issue with the original arcade version of SSF2X/Turbo is that playing on anything other than slowest, the stages don't all run at the same speed! Zangief's, Sim's, Claw's and Sagat's stages run super fast compared to something like Ryu's stage.
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 6 жыл бұрын
sabishiihito Sounds like the arcade game was running without a FPS cap. So it makes sense for some stages to go faster than others.
@kamranki
@kamranki 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison video! Thanks for this.
@MohsinJavedCheema
@MohsinJavedCheema 6 жыл бұрын
MS DOS has the best soundtrack ever even better than 3DO
@johnxxiiii
@johnxxiiii 6 жыл бұрын
Mohsin Javed no way.
@UltraEpicLeader10020
@UltraEpicLeader10020 4 жыл бұрын
X6800 laughs at such a bullshit statement.
@fifaworldcup1994
@fifaworldcup1994 4 жыл бұрын
Don't attack him like that. Everyone has their own opinion.
@camulodunon
@camulodunon 3 жыл бұрын
@@UltraEpicLeader10020 only in your dreams.
@masterlee1988
@masterlee1988 8 жыл бұрын
You can reduce the load times of the PS1 version to be shorten(like 3 seconds of loading) by playing it on PS2 and setting the disc read speed to fast, it fixes that and I have a youtube playthrough of it as Chun Li where there's proof of that.
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 6 жыл бұрын
mitu123Copper true, but that versions problems went well beyond load times.
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 6 жыл бұрын
jgfjgfify there were numerous differences to the way the game played. The Turbo speeds were all slower for one. Guile has “CPS1” chains which no character was supposed to have in the newer engine. Chun Li’s upkicks were bugged, I think the MK one made her fall FAR slower than normal. Ken, Dhalsim, and Sagat gained reversal supers when they didn’t have one normally. Chun Li and Honda couldn’t “store” their charge supers on here either. Then there was the total absence of Q Sound stereo separation, but that was practically ALL ports until the Dreamcast and on.
@reifagundes7069
@reifagundes7069 6 жыл бұрын
Ralph Pollard I mean for crying out loud. DSP placed 4th at evo 2005 with the ps1 version and can't even beat randoms online on regular super turbo so something is up with the ps1 port.
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 6 жыл бұрын
Jason Fagundes what happened is that they decided to use the PS1 version at EVO that year when practically everyone there was used to the actual arcade game, and it’s gameplay. Of course when it came time to actually play on the real shit, DSP literally dies for free.
@StarForceBelmont321
@StarForceBelmont321 4 жыл бұрын
@@Darknight0681 i hope its ok i still love the ps1 version. I play Street Fighter casually and just have fun with the game
@neofluxarmor6554
@neofluxarmor6554 5 жыл бұрын
3:18 Darksydephil's favorite version. LOL
@greensun1334
@greensun1334 3 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast is the Arcade-truest Port of them all, no Question...
@Silanda
@Silanda 3 жыл бұрын
In every way except that it uses ugly nearest neighbour scaling to scale the arcade's 384x224 resolution to the Dreamcast's 640x480. It's sharp looking, but it means that the pixel sizes are inconsistent when every pixel should be the same size. It makes the graphics look more blocky than they should, it shimmers in motion, and I honestly can't stand how that looks. Personally I'd take filtered scaling instead, as was used in HSF2 on the PS2, though not everyone likes that look either so YMMV. It should have been an option IMO. Vampire/Darkstalkers on the DC has the same problem. Before the emulated versions, every home release of SSF2T had its own issues. Even some of the emulated versions had their own issues.
@greensun1334
@greensun1334 3 жыл бұрын
@@Silanda for me, the SNES-Port is the Best, I like it more than the Arcade-Original. Much faster and smoother Gameplay. The Megadrive-Port is practically indentical but the Sound is just a big painful Experience...
@tightlypackedcoil
@tightlypackedcoil 8 жыл бұрын
The 3DO version was overrated! Once you see that there's only one background layer, it looks like the fighters are in front of a projector screen and you can't unsee the illusion.
@greensun1334
@greensun1334 3 жыл бұрын
Even my SNES-Port has Parallax-Scrolling...
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 3 жыл бұрын
@@greensun1334 thats wasnt ssf2turbo it was ssf2
@Sut1978
@Sut1978 8 жыл бұрын
I was going to post that you would be quite happy which ever port you had as they all seem to play well. Then along came the CD32 version 😮
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
+Martin Sutcliffe hehehe, you can always count on at least one port being complete crap. Even Amiga CD32 fans admit it's awful. I'd say it's bad more because of the developer, not the hardware.
@stoicvampirepig6063
@stoicvampirepig6063 8 жыл бұрын
Great video Yakumo, really enjoyed that...that original chip music made me cry a bit.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
+StoicVampire Pig Yeah, the original chip music to Super Street Fighter is iconic. I love Cammy's theme the most but that's not to say the others are bad. Most of the music in this game is fantastic!
@tunkunrunk
@tunkunrunk 3 жыл бұрын
this version with power gauge and hidden Akuma was sadly never released on snes nor sega megadrive
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 3 жыл бұрын
The Dreamcast version is amazing, clearly the king of the ports here, with the Saturn close behind, followed by the PSX, which would have had a good chance if not for that damned loading. I actually have the PSX version, and even back then I could just FEEL myself aging while playing it. The 3DO was a valiant effort, but with that controller, it just wasn't going to be good. You NEED the Capcom pad or an SNES adapter to even think about playing this one. HDR was pretty cool, too. I'm not sure I'd say the voice samples for that one were all right, and I definitely don't agree that the music was rubbish. I found it quite enjoyable, albiet not the highest quality that OCRemix has ever put out. The announcer sounds like it was a new voice, though, and not a very good one either. As to the art, honestly I found the UDON work on the characters great, but some of the backgrounds seem... Off, for lack of a better term, especially Dhalsim's stage. Sad they used those backgrounds for Ultra...
@Ai-fj1dc
@Ai-fj1dc 7 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I think that the GBA version is great. It has beautiful animations and the gameplay is responsive.
@leehurst6922
@leehurst6922 3 ай бұрын
What do you mean by a slow version that doesn't remove any frames?
@2003gamerflashfungirly
@2003gamerflashfungirly 2 ай бұрын
it means that frames are slow man idoitic people ask tooo many questions ☹️☹️☹️☹️
@workingmanbh
@workingmanbh 8 жыл бұрын
When it was lauched, i just got out of the school bus, at the corner of my street, and went to the bar/arcade. Geez, right after me and my brother were there, they installed SSF2T. Man, can you imagine the hypeness, the curiosity, the misterious things like the new bar, new intro ? And the super combo commands weren't included, so we were blind for a long time after the commands were in game magazines here in Brasil. And i played the Dos version back then, i didn't have the perception, for me was a good game. Played the 3do version at a game rent place.... What a perfection (at the time). Now i just love my Saturn version here :) (for the game speeds, i don't like the frakking speedier turbo... I prefer playing on Turbo 1, which is a little faster than the SSF2, but 2 and 3 are unbeareable to me. The game is already difficulty, more speed only fck you...)
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
+Filipe Lana I know the hype so well. I was also visiting the arcades a lot at the time of release. It was an amazing time. The 3DO post was amazing too back in the day. It's such a shame that the 3DO controller is horrible to use. Playing it with a good stick though made the game so much better. I kind of agree with the s@eed settings. Turbo 1 is just right.
@hybridplc
@hybridplc 8 жыл бұрын
Saved the best till last :)
@williamwilliam9993
@williamwilliam9993 3 жыл бұрын
Do you use ePSXe for playstation emulation in battle of the ports?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes. Depends if I own the original game or not. If I have the original disc I'll use a PlayStation console.
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 3 жыл бұрын
ePSXe is a terrible emulator. Honestly, if you're not using Retroarch or Bizhawk, I'd go with Duckstation or PCSX-Reloaded/Redux....
@Donkey_Lips
@Donkey_Lips 3 жыл бұрын
HD Remix... "rubbish music" came from users of OverClocked (OC) Remix, maybe they were professional musicians, maybe not, but I agree... the music was weird in that port.
@fallofsaigon
@fallofsaigon 8 жыл бұрын
FABULOUS!!! Thanks for making my Sunday! :)
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
+fallofsaigon You're very welcome :)
@iamthomaschoo
@iamthomaschoo 4 жыл бұрын
amiga 32 has the best blanka bite throw animation
@mikestein1024
@mikestein1024 5 жыл бұрын
I got the arcade 1 up version I wonder how it measures while I'm aware of the mono sound which I really did not notice it plays really well
@PrimevalDemon
@PrimevalDemon 3 жыл бұрын
Hd remix is pretty milling especially soundtrack wise but boxers theme "Sexy Trunks " is essential! Almost redeems the entire soundtrack imo
@Darkfirewolf12
@Darkfirewolf12 8 жыл бұрын
the gba was my 1sy port and it still holds well for me after all these years now
@trinidadmetroid
@trinidadmetroid 2 жыл бұрын
Ps1, and ps2 versions were quite good to be honest.
@ahuman9864
@ahuman9864 7 жыл бұрын
Ok firstly, if we're talking about the best SSF2T you have to take a few things into consideration. The first being display, input and hardware. The Saturn has the FM Yamaha Sound chip which is considered the best sound chip available pre 128bit era. Also, the Saturn architecture is mid 90's Sega arcade hardware lets not forget that, this means capcoms cps2 programming came right over. Saturn was the perfect platform. Also If you run a scart cable into a RGB converter into a CRT TV you will have SUPERIOR color and pixel!! Saturn version also doesnt lose any sprite animation. So, better sound and visual Saturn is the best home port. So what about controller? Well Saturn has 6 face buttons. Seriously, Saturn wins on all fronts.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 7 жыл бұрын
What can I say apart from, I agree. Also the Saturn's resolution CPS boards resolutions are different but only slightly.
@DanielAyy
@DanielAyy 5 жыл бұрын
I like that the Amiga CD32 version is tucked away in the corner, as if to shame it. It certainly deserves it Also, for some reason, I like the 3DO port more than the Saturn and arcade version. I have a bit of a soft spot for it, it might be because of the music or that it's one of the best games for the 3DO.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 5 жыл бұрын
Probably because that and Samurai Shodown are the best games on the 3DO.
@socialengineering2539
@socialengineering2539 4 жыл бұрын
1.Dreamcast 2.saturn 3.3do 4.gba
@pcbjunkie1
@pcbjunkie1 7 жыл бұрын
I've got the arcade version of this game on CPS2 hardware. Got two of them in fact. One is the tournament edition that allows 4 cabinets to be linked together for tournament style play. Who remembers that? Anyway, I would go to the arcade in my teenage years and would be able to stay playing this machine for hours without losing. Yes, that means I'm still better at it than you... lol!
@eazypeazy
@eazypeazy 8 жыл бұрын
very enjoyable episode of one of the best games ever! thank you!
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
Cheers! I'm happy that this Battle of the Ports has been pretty popular.
@quakecon2009
@quakecon2009 5 жыл бұрын
My fav game of all time.
@Konsker
@Konsker 7 жыл бұрын
love the dos and amiga versions for the music
@MagisterHamid
@MagisterHamid Жыл бұрын
The GBA version is impressive!
@BRockin25
@BRockin25 8 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast version looks tremendous. It is ok to call the entire port of HD remix "rubbish" and not just the soundtrack
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
+BRockin25 I have to say that I agree with you there.
@BRockin25
@BRockin25 8 жыл бұрын
+Retro Core Thanks for the response, and fantastic job on all the Battle of the Ports. Informative and well presented every time.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. The next show just happens to be another Capcom Fighter. Hopefully it will be out on Saturday. If not then the day after.
@adrenalinex4
@adrenalinex4 6 жыл бұрын
Fuck no hd remix has some good tracks on it.
@CAPTAPHOENIXF90
@CAPTAPHOENIXF90 6 жыл бұрын
what can you tell about Ultra S.F. II the Final Challengers performance?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing I'm afraid. I've not played that one.
@MVC2fan1
@MVC2fan1 5 жыл бұрын
Its on Nintendo Switch, which you gonna have trouble using the Joycons. I recommend you must get the Nintendo switch pro controller.
@Linkenfant
@Linkenfant 7 жыл бұрын
Isn't 224p the resolution of the SNES ports (and most of its games)? I think the Arcade games are 240pbut I may be wrong. Also HD Remix runs at 720p natively as far as I know, it's not 1080p. :)
@Darknight0681
@Darknight0681 6 жыл бұрын
Linkenfant Arcade is 224 too. The problem is that the 16 bit games cut off 16 pixels from the bottom and top.
@RetroArcadeGuy
@RetroArcadeGuy 8 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you add the SSF2 ports on Mega Drive and SNes? or is this a totally diferent game?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
Because this video is for Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo (X in Japan). The Mega Drive and SNES games are normal Super Street Fighter 2. Please see my other Super Street Fighter 2 video for those versions.
@Shundi12
@Shundi12 8 жыл бұрын
I always liked the music in HD Remix.
@RichardAllenSB
@RichardAllenSB 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah seriously, in what way was the HD Remix soundtrack rubbish?? It was lovingly crafted by fan musicians on ocremix.org and officially included by Capcom.
@supersonics5000
@supersonics5000 8 жыл бұрын
+Richard Allen Agree
@doktoroptimo
@doktoroptimo 7 жыл бұрын
it was made by amateurs and it sucks
@ShannonsCompany
@ShannonsCompany 7 жыл бұрын
optimus prime no it wasn't it was made by fans which love the game not like you
@izzie31
@izzie31 7 жыл бұрын
I like it very mellow.
@kwizzeh
@kwizzeh 2 жыл бұрын
Many years later, the best home port now is found on the Street Fighter 30th Anniversary Collection. While the online is ok at best even though it's rollback, it's still the best ST home port out there since it's almost arcade perfect.
@joshi_6887
@joshi_6887 2 жыл бұрын
e m u l a t i o n so it doesnt count in this comparison even if it did exist back then
@MrUltimatemaniac100
@MrUltimatemaniac100 2 жыл бұрын
Would have been good if you showed the differences you were referring to. 👍
@MASHDAT
@MASHDAT 3 жыл бұрын
Well, at least HD Remix gave us Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers.
@dropkickmonk3y
@dropkickmonk3y 3 жыл бұрын
HD remixed was such a haste job.
@iamthomaschoo
@iamthomaschoo 4 жыл бұрын
whats with the life bar in the ps1 version?
@JimLeonard
@JimLeonard 8 жыл бұрын
Was your CD32 emulator running at the full framerate? It looks much lower than it does on the real hardware.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
It may have something to do with it running in PAL mode?
@JimLeonard
@JimLeonard 8 жыл бұрын
No, as cd32 games are dual-region. Computer too slow?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
Jim Leonard Far from it. This PC can run the Witcher 3 or Metal Gear Solid V at the same specs as an XBOX One or PS4. Maybe the game really is that slow but you just remember it being faster?
@JimLeonard
@JimLeonard 8 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected. After some research, it seems as if that specific game really is that slow on the CD32. My apologies.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
No worries. We all remember things a little different to how we remember them.
@ultimateman1234
@ultimateman1234 7 жыл бұрын
You can't do a direct port comparison using imperfect emulators. Also, the 3D0 and Dreamcast versions run the game natively in 480i, resulting in more blurry sprites (and flicker) as compared to the arcade, playstation, and saturn versions, which all run in ~240p. But you wouldn't be able to see any of that on emulators...
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 7 жыл бұрын
This show isn't meant to be a digital foundry level of comparison :) it's all a bit of fun to be honest. The Dreamcast, SNES, Mega Drive and Saturn footage on my video are always taken from real consoles.
@shinkazama3959
@shinkazama3959 4 жыл бұрын
Arcade, Saturn & 3DO (just for the remixed audio) versions all the way, here in the West (Australia) I own the Playstation version however I would much rather own the Saturn version yet that version off the Street Fighter Collection goes for stupid money these days so I can't justify it, still, I can dream! :)
@mastersproutgamer9327
@mastersproutgamer9327 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, both this and the original Super Street Fighter II never got ported to the Mega-CD or the PC Engine CD.
@NightSprinter
@NightSprinter 8 жыл бұрын
Also for DOS, it came with a six button pad (much like the garbage DOS port of New Challengers, which be thankful that you didn't get sound running on, and the okish port of MegaMan X). The controller used all four P1 axes and buttons, two buttons from P2 (how a PC 4-button pad worked), and parts of the two axes from P2 to get all six working. Also unlike New Challengers, the MIDI music was DECENT! Oh, on the art style for HD Remix: the graphics were done by Udon Comics. They did the Street Fighter and Darkstalkers comics from a few years back.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
+NightSprinter can't say I'm a fan of the Udon Comics HD remix style to be honest.
@NightSprinter
@NightSprinter 8 жыл бұрын
+Retro Core Yeah, the comic art just doesn't translate well to a fighting game. Let me know if there will be a BotP of X-Men: Children of the Atom. I have some footage of the DOS version that might surprise you.
@Tempora158
@Tempora158 8 жыл бұрын
+NightSprinter The problem is comic book illustrators are not the same as animators and it painfully shows in HD Remix. Skullgirls also has a similar comic book style but that looks fantastic because it is drawn by animators.
@NightSprinter
@NightSprinter 8 жыл бұрын
+Tempora158 Bingo. It's more the SG artists didn't try to adapt something to a game, because they were making the game's art.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
NightSprinter I didn't know there was a DOS port. I'd be happy to credit you for the footage.
@dyscotopia
@dyscotopia 2 жыл бұрын
It was very rare indeed when we Amiga owners got a good Capcom port... Even rarer than with Sega!
@kyo2975
@kyo2975 3 жыл бұрын
What the hell is with the emulation on your PlayStation version?
@tylersbiggestflowerboy
@tylersbiggestflowerboy Жыл бұрын
i believe Human Soft made some of the Clock Tower games
@RetroCore
@RetroCore Жыл бұрын
They did.
@PhaaxGames
@PhaaxGames 8 жыл бұрын
Isn't this (Super?) Street Fighter II (Turbo?) - The New Challengers on the SNES, or is there something different in that version?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
+Samuel Johansson no, your thinking of the regular Super Street Fighter 2. Not the X / Turbo version.
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 3 жыл бұрын
Super Turbo was basically the Hyper Fighting version of SSF2.
@ManaNaito
@ManaNaito 8 жыл бұрын
Glad to know that I am not the only one who dislike the music in that HD Remix travesty.
@leonardoantonio8756
@leonardoantonio8756 8 жыл бұрын
Good show! I like the sound mix of the 3DO, sounds awesome, I didn't know about the Dreamcast port, or the msdos. The remake looks great, but the 3DO bgm still the best..
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
+Leonardo The 3DO game was amazing when it first came out. It was one of the few really good games for the system IMO.
@leonardoantonio8756
@leonardoantonio8756 8 жыл бұрын
Retro Core indeed the sound mix is excelent. What other games do you recommend for the 3DO?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
Not many. I find most 3DO games to be dull. They're mostly American titles which back then were dark, ugly and well.... not very good IMO. But you should know that the almighty policenaughts started life on the 3DO as did the D series of games.
@leonardoantonio8756
@leonardoantonio8756 8 жыл бұрын
Retro Core Yeah, not a system worthy of an entire Retro Core Volume I guess.. by the way I was thinking of a RC volume but with only shytes of the month games.. haha what do you think?
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
Leonardo yeah, that would be fun. A show of shit :) Maybe sometime down the line.
@alpzepta
@alpzepta 3 жыл бұрын
The HD Remixed Look like it’s Made in China doesn’t feel like Japanese Quality on the 90s Port
@JotaeLe1982
@JotaeLe1982 8 жыл бұрын
the original xbox. has also a street fighter anniversary collection with the hyper street fighter 2. including the option to play like the super street fighter 2 turbo
@PhrostB
@PhrostB 7 жыл бұрын
i actually really loved HD Remix, i hope they bring it to steam one day (along with older games like SFA2) just a little tip if anyone is interested: you can still buy SFA2 on gog.com.. but the port is pretty terrible
@Brand2Tiny
@Brand2Tiny 4 жыл бұрын
I swear, I can't be the only one who hates Blanka's CPU in this game.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 4 жыл бұрын
Can't say I'm a fan.
@TimelostFlare
@TimelostFlare 7 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the exclusive PC version of Super Turbo. the one that had a whole different version of the soundtrack not found one the FM Towns or 3DO versions.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't know there was a special PC version :(
@uubrmanx
@uubrmanx 7 жыл бұрын
LunarStarStory Isn't that just the Eurocom port at 15:26 though?
@TheUpliftingGuy
@TheUpliftingGuy 7 жыл бұрын
I had the 3DO version in mint condition and I was stupid enough to sell it several years ago.
@Silanda
@Silanda 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I'd be tempted to give the nod to the Playstation version over the Saturn version as the play area isn't quite as cropped on the sides (still cropped though). That loading though... urgh.
@philmason9653
@philmason9653 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea there was a CD32 version. I always thought it was odd that Capcom never cashed in on this game on 16-bit consoles, I just assumed 3DO had some kind of console exclusivity deal at the time. Maybe the CD32 being compatible with Amiga games gave Commodore a back door on that one?
@tatsujin07
@tatsujin07 7 жыл бұрын
Hyper Street Fighter II for PS2 - best port period.
@ashleyredacted3553
@ashleyredacted3553 8 жыл бұрын
Dreamcast version with the proper dipswitches is the closest to the arcade original. It should also be noted that the 3DO version, for all it's positives, is missing the ability to play as the (mostly, with some slight alterations on some characters) SSF2 versions of characters via character select codes. There's also a version on the PS2 and Xbox on Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2, which COULD have been perfect if it didn't suffer from having really bad input delay.
@mastersproutgamer9327
@mastersproutgamer9327 10 ай бұрын
The arcade and GBA ports are the winner.
@TyroneLWarbasse
@TyroneLWarbasse 8 жыл бұрын
Cool. Putting in Japanese letters in the description. I like the 3DO version personally, though I find nothing wrong with any of the versions myself. That's just me.
@RetroCore
@RetroCore 8 жыл бұрын
I put the Japanese names of the games in since I'm located in Japan. Surprisingly 13% of my traffic is from Japan.
@TyroneLWarbasse
@TyroneLWarbasse 8 жыл бұрын
Mine too for some reason, though in my case a few views, not a lot Good work 👍
@Rohaldos
@Rohaldos Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe how bad is the port for the amiga cd32. I believe the amiga 32 could have done a much better job with decent devs porting the game.
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