'guys' C'mon now, DICE would never allow their employees to use non-inclusive words like that.

fucking bob

Fucking bob got great ideias

glad i hesitated ......fucking bf1 all over again....i'm done

Thank fuck i didn't buy this battlefield. Probs buy it when its 1 dollar

Jon J I love it. Using soderlands daughter needs to be used every time dice does something stupid.

Gender equality too OP apparently.

lmao

Parent of the year. Lol what a joke

Burdman yes

RIGHT?!!! Liars! And I really loved this game!

@cread 61o Except it should be other way around. The new TTK should be on a seperate test server. As you can propably see, the route they took ended up dividing the playerbase and alienating it's core fans.

@@mr.potatoguy4216 Stop looking to be offended by everything and you'll be okay.

@cread 61o Yea I know. However, that is only Conquest sadly, and the fact where they said no changes are coming but then say based on our feedback they are changing the TTK is kinda dumb. I have maybe seen like 5 out of 100 people want the change in TTK and DICE literally said the "majority" which is irritating because that's not true :(

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b33lze6u6 more like 4 years but yes

Haven't tried it as a standalone mode yet, only in the Operations. Will give it a try now though and see :)

it's the best mode in my opinion with conquest but it's also always sniper hell which is really annoying

Same here

It's great fun, the only map I think it's worse than conquest is the mountain map. The chokepoints just get over crowded.

Seth Thompson it is awesome. Deffo best mode. I think Rotterdam is the worst map for it though. That second section is difficult with not enough flanking options.

This made me laugh.....and nervous...!

After 11 months, they did it

Let's hope so, played it today and I don't like it. (to put it mildly)

No they will double down and say if we dont like it we're uneducated.

Oh fuck are we uneducated again?

I am just waiting for hardcore server, cmon sniper to the upper chest 57% really?

I hope so but DICE can be so damn stubborn sometimes.

Patrick Adams this is exactly why I disliked bf1. I thought bfV might be different but it appears to be more of the same. Probably gonna abandon battlefield as a franchise if they don’t change it back

They reduced damage by 15% guys. . . .it takes one more bullet to kill someone. They couldn't have changed it any less and actually change it. I get why people don't like it, but this is not some massive change. It is a mild tweak.

Seth Thompson one more bullet on an slr or an smg that already took 6 shots to kill outside of 30 meters is significant. This update has ruined medic and really hurt assault which are pretty much the only classes I play

@@scoobydoobers23 11:57 see how it is just a "mild tweak"

No it only takes 1 extra bullet to kill that doesnt change shit. Ttk is still fast

I like it. bf has almost no recoil or spread. Making it harder to kill people is a good change in my opinion. Liked how it was pre patch in bf1.

It's getting really hard to support BF5 like this. Community says leave it like it is, DICE says F U we're changing it anyway.

I've had a lot of respect for their response to community input in the past. I'm going to give the the benefit of the doubt for now and hope this all works out in the long run

I prefer 9 bullets to kill on SMGs, feels just great.

everyone hates it? i like it just need to buff medic weapons and its good. Jacks statement is correct.

Found out that the threads are not deleted, but instead are merged into one megathread, which is essentially the same...

@@RainmakerAnton Thats far from the same its a common thing on any forum to reduce forum clutter

@@llamaoflag5447 it's not clutter if it's a burning issue, it's an attempt to downplay the fact that DICE fucked up.

@@RainmakerAnton it is clutter if there's a post made about the same topic every 5 mins by a different person

@@zachsnyder1083 half of this thread is about clutter, someone should move you two to a dedicated forum clutter thread

Nooo the medic weapons would have become way overpowered in close range if they remained and all others got nerfed. The issue with the medic is the medium range not short range.

I don’t know why people want smgs to do well in medium range. They are not supposed to compete with assault rifles or slrs. Imagine the automatico competing with the Federov at mid range. But I think they should just give medics the rifles back. It made more people play medic.

@@tylerlyon9621 I don't want them to do well at medium range. I want them to compete in CQ. Their damage cannot compete with the weapons available to assault and support.

Medic weapons sucks

@@tylerlyon9621 even at close range they'll get out gunned by the Sweaty tryhard Gun44(STG44)

Then why did you buy it? Its been clear long before the game that's what it would have.

the waterboy No you got it because you are uneducated.

Oh are we still uneducated

Atleast it doesnt have random bullet deviation. Which was the reason all skilled and more involved players left bf1 first month.

No I educate myself on the game regularly I just have a hope that they’d listen to the community and give us quality content to keep me focused on the game long into the future.

Yes medic is the worst option now it's very useful for the team but personally I don't like smgs

@@fatalis3920 in bf1 smgs were so good borderline OP in close quarters, they are nerf guns in bfv.

@@mountain_man307 BF 5 M1928A1

@@blunted333 I don't think that you understand that they related!

@@blunted333 Because they are the same thing. If TTK is 3 bullets, then TTD is also 3 bullets, simple as that. The issues come from the netcode. I have never even heard anyone talk about TTD, it is some retarded thing BFV players came up with.

The ammmo/health crates shouldnt need to be used to resupply, it should be automatic like previous games

The funny thing is, Jack could have just called in a supply drop. He had plenty of req points lol.

He'd have to get out of cover to do that.

@@heretichound6931 yeah, but there were plenty of moments when he was running around in open areas and was still safe. A lot of players tend to wanna only save up for the V1 rocket and not spend on anything else. Thing is, the rocket isn't always necessary. In certain situations, it's better to just summon a couple supply drops and some bonus tanks in key spots.

If all of you want to have a more polished and fun game go back and play bf4 that came out many years ago... they’re taking steps back in my opinion with net code and all the rest

Mike Wahl open origin>order history>request refund

Mike Waaaaahhhhhhl.

I want refund, on PS4 please help me

@@fatalis3920 you can't get it on ps4

Mike Wahl yeah right

It has been that way since the start. New TTK didn't change headshot damage :)

KASH Not really. He healed himself

theyre catering to the lowed common denominator, making is easier for the scrubs why dont they just tell em to get gud instead? i mean if i was rlly shit at the game i wouldnt want dice to change things to make it easier for me, id just wanna practice and get gud :3

timestap?

3.18

It's the one guy who actually liked the new TTK tweak.

That's rape culture if I've ever seen it!

Adib Pranata I actually just started having a lot of fun with it, reminded me of when I started liking bf4 Then dice ruined it

Yep. TTD did need sorting but I don't think they actually know how to do it. Agree with everything you say

Because they try to appeal to casuals because of their lack of sales

Off Grid Madman idk but I'd imagine TTK and TTD are very closely related.

This time I waited long until I bought it just so I wasn't screwed over again with all of their empty promises. I guess I didn't wait long enough.

@@iLoveChrisSmoove Yes, this appealing to casuals is a terrible thing. They wont last long anyway, the vast majority of us were happy with the TTK. TTK and TTD are closely related but there is an actual bug with TTD so you don't even realise you're getting shot until maybe the last 2 bullets when you may have been shot 6 times. And if THEY can't seem to fix it then who can?!! Its worrying eh.

the way it should be....

What did you expect from dice

Muk I’ll have what this guy is smoking

purposly Well this game is garbage and most unneeded.

Matt I WBA Well this update is perfect for a raging pile of trash player such as yourself. 1 frame deaths are an issue that have nothing to do with the ttk. The real issue is the ttd which dice refuses to address because it involves actual compliance....You are just a shit player who refused to adapt to the game with the previous ttk. You probably never considered your positioning and just ran out in the open gungho like a dumbass or never considered good flanking routes or just had pretty shit aim in general. Players like you are what make games that have a good thing going for them worse. No one wants a game where enemies feel like bullet sponges, because of the new ttk, tactical gameplay such as utilizing cover proficiently, stationed while prone, flanking and preservation of your ammo amongst other things are flawed. And the flow of combat is also worse because it takes too damn much to down an enemy before you’re shot in your back by someone else.

Foo-Foo Cuddlypoops if only this game had an Alfa... and a beta... and early release for preorders before everyone could get in...

Even more reason they shouldve kept the cte

This is still an alpha lol. Treat it that way and all the shit and bugs make sense

TurboGamingUK this game is not in alpha, it had a full release a month ago

@@lividtaffy7411 full alpha release yes

Its exactly what they're doing. If this new TTK makes it into the game into the bin my copy goes.

Like Rush was, and with the sound as it is it's the only mode playable. Grand operations vibrations don't work so that's out.

Breakthrough is the most realistic game mode too, especially with the strategic retreat.

Same here. I think Conquest could be fine if there were Conquest specific maps. Unti then it's Breakthrough for me.

I thought that's what they were going to do, but nope - _everyone_ is carrying a bomb, now. In part, it makes sense, because there _were_ a couple of bugs with the bombs, themselves (both of these happened in a single match, for my team): 1. The bombs could disappear once their respawn timer hit zero, and 2. the bombs could get stuck under the ground and be rendered unobtainable. In the game I experienced this, #1 happened to one bomb, and #2 happened to the other, and the remainder of the round turned into an overtly long TDM, in which I ended up with 64 or so kills.

Lol it was never alive.

Why cause of ttk change?

Ancienne Belgique it was never trending

It’s fun

My copy was shipped in from the mainland. It's sitting there collecting dust

I try to enjoy the game with core settings....I just can't stand the amount of shots to drop someone. Dice pls HC

I want to play Rotterdam hardcore

The original ttk is the official basis for their new hardcore mode. So at this rate you're going to get the same ttk as a day ago

In a perfect situation ( server latency, no pack loss, gap between players' latency, ecc ecc ) the ttk and the ttd IS EQUAL. If i need 3 seconds to kill you ( ttk ), automatically you will die in 3 seconds ( ttd ). Actually, the shit net code of dice, creates a huge gap between ttk and ttd. The goal of dice is make these 2 values as equal as possible.

Adrian not at all. Fuck dice

nicht* gut*

Naru 'Sanav Klug scheißer 😂😜

Naru 'Sanav das war der Joke

7.62x25mm sorry I enjoy other games and have other things to do with my life besides play BF5

Yup. And TTD stands for "Time to death".