I knew I couldn't be the only one who was stuck in that place

Why wasn’t loki in this game?

You are not trash

ngl i had no idea there was a prompt. thought i was genuinely missing something and was stuck on that bit for like 10 minutes....

It was an anoying bit, But im pretty sure the promt re-appeared for me, since i also was kind of lost on the whole "tail stands up" thing

Nah just tingle

yeah, he should make a texture pack since he loves Zelda so much.

I'm not sure what makes you think that.

The only thing I know, is that he really hate horses.

I thought he liked Gyro controls, I'm so confused on the cannon now. What arc are we in?

RIP.

RIP Pooch... I mean, Viola😅

@@shinbakihanma2749 *Kitty

I need Kamiya to present a sworn affidavit that Viola will never, ever return.

@@thewindyredpanda5715 either you missed the reference or I'm missing a joke

Meanwhile we have Aunty Jeanne teaching Viola how to twerk in the background. Healthy inter-generational bonding time between witches 💜✨️🌕

@@nihilego3634 Viola would probably get a hernia while trying to learn how to twerk.

Bayonetta from the first game: "Do I look like I have any interest in children? Now making them..."

It’s-a-me, a-Bayonetta.

*what is this place*

And it's going to be a stealth game with overly long cutscenes

She's gonna have dude hips.🤣

bayo rising revengeance

Tbh just give her sekiro mechanics

@@shinbakihanma2749 dude hips? The dude from the big lebowski? Those are some pretty wide hips

He really shouldnt, the game has its charms but 9 games? How? Itll get waaaay to repetitive to be appealing to even the most hardcore fans.

They can think of unique mechanics that will make the combat more interesting than the previous ones. He's the guy who invented the hack and slash genre and made two successful franchises out of them.

How exactly can the story be expanded into like more games?

@@daniboy4153 I'm surprised you finished this game and can't answer that. The possibilities are literally endless now. They could create any Bayonetta in any universe and just play off that.

@@Cepheus773 How is that a good thing?

I'm praying Viola develops into being as good as Nero. Iirc he became the focus character by 4 and 5, yet he had a very basic moveset that had some depth and was good for new comers

Didn’t they say they wanted 6 more of these games?

I don’t (nor want to) know what happens, but given Bayonetta rescued Jeanne from Hell or whatever in Bayo 2, I can’t imagine anything being permanent. They’ll make up some cockamamie explanation for bringing Bayo back. I mean, you defeat God in the second game, so I don’t see how anything could really defeat her. Whatever led to the ending should’ve been easily prevented. Suffice to say. narratively, a 3rd game probably shouldn’t exist. So I wouldn’t put too much stock into it. Probably a choice purposefully made to shock people, but never meant to have a lasting impact.

The fact that there are 3 games and 6+ planned is already outstanding considering Platinum Games nor Hideki Kamiya are not much into sequels, they don't like repeating themself on the gameplay. Her "death" is more methaphoric than literal, my guest is they are into some sort of reboot in order to move on.

Think of it as a renew. The Bayo we know may still be around, but the series is expanding and growing in new ways

Thats actually a curious one and makes me wonder if they even initially thought of Viola when making this game. Cause in the intial reveal trailer last year, they ended the trailer with a Viola teaser, but Bayonetta was in Viola only chapters anyways. We know the game went through huge changes before, so I wonder if it was still mostly the semi open game last year when they showed it off

Bayonetta 4 will have a playable Enzo that has a meter to enter Gabagool Mode

Game tells you that you need to find water, never tells you that Cheshire's tail is a dousing rod.

That really happens to Enzo? That’s fucking stupid

Yeah. I did not think I was going to have to dig. Even when I saw the shaking tail, I thought it indicated some secret and was this close to leaving it for later when I struggled to find it.

@@poorsoul8492 Yeah, though things...happen. You can also say Rodin's treating him the same way Enzo treated Jeanne dying in Bayo 2.

As a bit of an outsider looking in, I was thinking the exact same. I do not play the games, but I've seen them, and watching this it was all about what I expected from the franchise then she shows up and my eyebrows raise a bit lol. Game looks good but she looks very forced.

@@recon_ik she's cool because she's not cool, she tries too hard to be cool and consistently fails at it while having the player is doing cool moves in the game while having a badass sidekick, she is legit great because she isn't a perfect plain Jane Merry Sue, SHE IS VIOLA

Could have been worse, at least she wasn't genuinely edgy. I just wish she had more moments to work with before the end.

@@chillhour6155 i dont know I thought she was hella cringy and corny. I also feel like she just didn’t fit the bayo universe. Like her music is amazing, but it doesn’t fit bayonetta. Taking her out of the story would nearly do no harm to it. Just my thoughts tho

@@chillhour6155 no no she's not great, you can't even say "SHE IS VIOLA" when she's called Bayonetta now, please read what you write before posting so you can save yourself from sounding like an idiot.

Yeah, i would prefer to Viola not existing, they could just add katana moves to Jeanne and make her fully playable in the campaign. Also Viola waste frames of animation on blocking... so her Witch Time is actually worse than Bayo.

@@saaaaaaaaadasda We already have a katana in the first game, and Jeanne is canonically an experimented swordfighter. Would have made tons of sense for Jeanne to get the Viola section.

Shut up

I played 3 immediately afterwards since it has tons of cool unlockables/easter eggs. (Still have to play some more). But yeah I was thinking the same thing, if this franchise really goes ahead and makes Viola the main character I am done.

Yeah you really summed it up. If they don’t have this dumbass katana girl learn how to be an umbran witch then leave her out of the game.

Different between being angry punk and spunky punk

@@TimBagels spunk yes

I know damn well most people didnt like Nero when DMC4 first came out.

@@vaporsaver yes but they had two entire games to get used to Nero and considerable character development between the two, hell even if DMC5 didn't exist, Nero is still playable during 50% of DMC4 in comparison to Dante, Viola feels like you only get 20% of the gameplay in comparison to Bayonetta.

Nero w kyrie👀viola w Cheshire🤮

Honestly, relatable

given theres only one viola, I guess its more like only two of them somehow.

Reminds me a lot of how No More Heroes 3 looks in comparison to NMH 1 and 2. I guess strange “realistic” looking characters and weird enemy designs are becoming a switch trend.

I noticed those little flourishes too, I don't know why they did that. In a game where the huge demons make visibility difficult to occasionally impossible they decided to make the attack animations persist long past the attack for gameplay irrelevant style over substance. In 1, the sweeps of Scarborough Fair were communicated much better to the player and had a lot more gameplay relevant interaction with the larger amount of humanoid enemies. I can't really even describe the attack order of Colour My World because it's so filled with extraneous dancing. And no I won't buy Bayonetta 1 for the fourth time for one weapon. Terrible decision. On disc dlc especially for a weapon you can use in the story is egregious imo.

​@@twoplus2787 While i think choreography on Colour is good, it really doesnt make sense to have so much ineffective pauses between 2-5 inputs. Even though Bayonetta treats fight as a dance, she still a very effective combatant at the end of the day.

@@twoplus2787 Oh *that's* how you unlock those two weapon sets. I was wondering

Skyrim: "First time?"

It's on PC though.

@@cookieface80 But that was just a port, he meant that has been never been developed for a much better hardware in a span of 12 years.

She only replaced Cereza in one reality...

@@vaporsaver The point still stands, actually it will be worse, because it will make the entire game pointless.

She wasn’t even supposed to be competent, she’s a flawed character who was introduced at a bad time and still needs to grow.

@@roamingtheinternet8652 My point is that she isn't competent enough by the end of the game where she is taking up the mantle as "Bayonetta" and she can't even draw her weapon properly. It doesn't inspire confidence that she will be a good replacement. She only had like 3 levels so it seems like she was an afterthought even to the people that made the game so how am I supposed to be made to feel that this is what is replacing Cereza? And before you tell me that Cereza is alive in other dimensions/realitys, remember that the game *never showed us this* and its heavily implied that Cereza is gone for good.

Ehhh. He had a MECHANICALLY good game. 4 is far from good. And he was very much not a well written Character. He’s pretty fuckin pathetic of an attempt to new generation Dante in 4 and 5 needed to put a lot of work into basically making Nero from scratch. He had one game really but they tried in 1 to make him genuinely likable instead of just an obnoxious douche like their first attempt. Here they didn’t even give her the full game like 4 Nero so it’s even worse.

I thought I wouldn't use them much but they really did just add to your combo potential and they weren't overpowered like Umbran Climax was. Like it made sense to use demon slaves sporadically but not rely on it too much like an instant win. Balancing between demon and Bayo is quite complex and fun. This system was so much more fun to wield than Umbran climax to the point I refuse to even activate it when playing Bayo 2 as I consider it cheating.

I think it was a mistake not to have the demon slaves match the combos of their associated weapons. I'd be much more inclined to use them if Madama Butterfly had Colour My Worlds moveset with full combos instead of just one or two combos available. Baal is more interesting, and they all get *some* interesting moves, albeit bound to some incredibly asinine button inputs instead of normal combos.

@@ASpaceOstrich Really? That sounds worse. What incentive would there be to use the demons if the movement was identical but bigger? I don't really understand this criticism. Unique movements are a good thing.

@@Cepheus773 Its currently got like, one punch and one kick. It has a few special inputs on top of that but why aren't punch/kick combos being utilised on them?

But does Bayonetta hold Viola while dramatically proclaiming "I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with LIGHT!"

This isn’t an open world game and there’s tons of stuff to find so how is it empty?

@@lightspaceman5064 It becomes empty pretty fast actually. I haven't 100%'d it yet, but even when playing Expert mode for the first time it barely felt different with the Teen time challenges having no reward any more and chests having nothing of worth if you don't use items (Angel Attack somewhat addressed this if you either wanted the exclusive buffs or liked the mode). It comes down to Bewitchments which aren't dependent on any specific difficulty, score which is trivialised if you don't want to do a full PP run on the level and the Umbran tears which don't help that the game is very frontloaded in a first playthrough. You'll only be looking around to get a full PP which isn't unusual for a PlatinumGames game, but I think this has a worse balance than prior Bayo and especially TW101 where for better or worse, Normal, Hard and 101% Hard had a lot of value each.

@@geoffreywilson7008 that's DMC1, not 2. i wish she did tho

@@lightspaceman5064 By being visually very drab and mostly being empty space.

We haven't punched Satan into the sun yet, so thats still on the cards. May as well kill all the gods instead of just two out of three.

Lol maybe In the 6th game bayo might fight queen sheeba and then we'll get her as a demon slave😭😭😭🤣 And then In the 7th we'll go stupid and fight Omne 🤣

I think this time they really did just rip off Devil May Cry with the whole viola thing.

@@lindthechaoticheretic8708 Devil May Cry ripped off Metal Gear Solid with the whole Nero thing.

is that what they were doing. huh how come i still dont give a fucking shit about atreos

I don't think it's a "this generation" thing. Many authors always want to pass the torch after they feel that they already said what had to be said about their protagonist but they want to continue using the built world (also what you said about IPs), and on each occasion the reception is always complicated with varied successes: Every Joestar, Gohan, Boruto , Terry MCGinnis, Korra in animated media and Rock Howard, Raiden, Apollo Justice, Nero, Ichiban Kasuga, Atreus, Ellie Williams are only a few of them.

Not really too new a concept in hindsight: Tekken did the same with it's 3rd entry by making Jin the new protagonist, and the current Donkey Kong debuted in the Country titles as the grandson of the one from the Arcade games.

What the frozen guy doin here

The Pokemon's, COD's and Battlefields prove that gamers will by anything if it becomes mainstream enough, people get what they deserve

Eh, 60% chance Nintendo bails them out if they run out of cash. I mean, depending on how well this game is doing, of course. Else, Nintendo and SEGA will be having a meeting where SEGA will be like "what the fuck do i do with this now?" then point their thumb at a Viola in the back of the room playing with a giant Big the Cat plushie.

​@@danielr.7062 Nintendo didnt bailed them out previous times, it was Automata that saved them. Despite good relationships, Ninty is not a charity organization. They didnt give them any financial help during their hard times.

Automata and Astral Chain says that they will continue to do well. Hell, Bayo 3 probably did great in comparison to the second game. I just don't know if I trust where the games would go narratively and mechanically, but B4 is really likely at this rate as their only series so far.

​@@danielr.7062 I think Nintendo and SEGA both realize that "Bayonetta 4, starring Viola as the new protagonist" is a TERRIBLE idea that shouldn't be bothered with. Beyond that, PG owns no intellectual properties, the sole reason to buy out PG would be to maintain its workforce, but it would be infinitely more cost effective to let PG bankrupt themselves and head hunt their talent for a brand new startup.

@@chrisn.8322 shut up

yeah it was nonsense. It feels like some of these pocket dimensional challenges expect you to beat the game first so you have a solution on hand. Like, if you equip the Nucleus that autopilots demons, that challenge gets solved for you, but you don't get the opportunity to earn that until WAY later in the game. And that's ignoring the Umbran Armor method, which is also WAY later.

Dmc1 taught the player about enemy weak points, critical kills and niche strategies you could fill into your game plan. If it’s not setting that bar it’s not a good secret mission.

I don't think knowing how to read would've saved her from being a liar

One of PT's problem is that they think we will be bored by the main gameplay so they put gameplay change to keep us entertained. While it wasn't much of a problem for 1 and 2 imo, here it's too much invasive.

I love the pacing, bayo 2 had the worst pacing imo. While cranked to 11 everything is a decent clip.

For the most part I like those gimmick segments, but the problem I have is when they just go on for way to long. So how is it in Bayo 3? Are there just many and/or go to on for 10+ min like the Space Harrier segment in Bayo 1?

​@@DerNussknacker11 Space harrier is not 10+ minutes long to be fair. But this game is just riddled with them and they all ranked. Bayo 1 looks shy compare to this, im not joking or over exaggerating. They all concencrated in Bayos 10 chapters.

Yep, but it still feels like they legitimately tried though, which is something I prefer

Jeanne is actually optional now, though you have to play through the Spy Action missions at least once and it could be more obvious or even unscored. Viola... well yeah, technically she is optional since the game doesn't seem to stop you from choosing missions but it doesn't tell you which mission aligns with which character and we have forced characters for every mission but the bonus ones.

@@thelastgogeta yeah well ofc they are optional once u finish the game but on first playthrough they arent optional and forced on you.

@@dante19890 Fair, I just saying we don't need to do multiple runs containing them at all from what I can tell (I got NSIC on Normal mode and don't know if there are important unlockables tied to them). I'd be down for a cheat code, patch or some other way to make them completely optional.

Isn't that the same problem DMC5 has? Where players did a mod where you could play any chapter with any character you CHOOSE , man i wish we could play as Jeanne again

@@lovelessshoot883 And now we have people using modded Switches to have infinite health (probably ultra easy as many secret missions use this)... I didn't play enough Jeanne or the other characters in prior Bayo games but they seemed a little closer to DMC3 where all playable characters just play the levels. DMC5 half figured it out since Vergil can play all missions but for whatever reason, they didn't feel like making it official for everyone. Presumably due to the cameo system or something.

i remember watching Maximilian dood get to the first open area and i noticed the textures and geometry. i was like "uh oh" haha

Frankly, that one's more of a camera issue than a texture one ; these cars are way outside the play zone and there's plenty of higher quality car models featured beforehand in this same area and a few others. In fact, as Nerrel says, the camera is a huge problem in this game. It's horrid. They've changed it a lot compared to the first two because they have to account for Demon Slaves now but it ends up making many fights unreadable, and it still doesn't work properly with some demons. I avoided using War Train Gouon at all in my playthrough because it makes the viewpoint fuck off into the sky. You'd assume that would be done to make the train visible while it runs, but it doesn't properly keep it in view either. You just end up looking at empty space while enemies beat your ass off-screen.

​@@Denter86 Also under certain circumstances, train demon will crush framerate into single digits. And yes, enemies now officially can attack off-screen with no audio cues.

@@Denter86 my "uh oh" moment was seeing the flat green grass texture on arrival of the first island. that flat green was definitely n64 like

I got stuck there too. I don’t recall any tutorial

@@rouge939 Looking back you have to hit the + button when the "info" prompt shows up in the bottom right when you start playing as chesire

Would clearly be a giant Tingle

Less buggy and gold performance.

You could try only incorporating the demons into combos instead of full on summoning them. You know when the screen flashes and there's a sound cue for you to hit ZL, the Demon will show up and land a hit at the end of your combo and vanish. Or just summon them for quick one-two hit bursts then dismiss them quickly. You can really make the mechanic pretty unintrusive. If you love Bayo, i'd say give it a chance.

@@vaporsaver That is not viable as a playstyle in this game. Multiple enemies require sustained use of demons to beat, like the big tower enemy with the forcefield and the freezing enemy. Not much stuns larger enemies besides the bigger demon moves too. In the first game, most tools felt pretty strong because you only need to get to your wicked weaves to stun, send enemies flying, crowd control etc. but here you don't even keep shooting after a lot of weaves with Colour My World, stifling dodge offset opportunities and railroading gameplay into kaiju use. The enemies were designed specifically to be killed by Bayonetta's demons, such that Viola's gameplay suffers when she needs to fight these enemies. Chesire is not as interactive as any of Bayo's demons yet she needs that for these fights. The game was designed specifically to avoid players from playing it the way you just suggested, and the way that I would definitely prefer.

​@@twoplus2787 Demon Slave is the new crutch of the series, not even debatable, give you most scores/damage/radius its not optional, many times you'll fail combo/time requirements without it because it add's most points, just by connecting attacks. And on top of that switching them is OP and nothing like balanced style switching system from DMC. You can't stun all enemies without it, you don't have Torture Attacks 2.0, you can't break enemy shields, can't damage 1-st boss main body (only fire) that appears 3 times, and 2 flower-tower enemies.

There's also an accessory that allows you to move freely and keep controlling bayo while the summon acts on its own. So if it's controlling them that's the issue then there's a solution. If their existence is a problem, refund the game.

@@vaporsaver Giving up control over the game's mechanics in a character action game is not a solution. I've used that accessory, but it doesn't solve the problems I have with the game's systems. It's a band aid over the problems in the game that I commend the devs for noticing and implementing, but it is still just a band aid. And I wanted to love this game, saying stuff like "refund the game" is not really the best way to interact with media criticism.

Honestly this one is really good you should get it

I agree, you might find stuff you like about it but there's so much they change that was fundamentally good in 1 and 2 that it's tough to play without wanting to just quit and play the others again. And that's before getting to the downright disrespectfully bad story.

I prefer that, it's so much cool shit too experiment with.

Those fucking cats and birds.

@@nihilego3634 Especially the crows like what the inferno.

The Clock Tower really be saving our asses.

I can't think of any moment in my playthrough of the game where I felt like I was genuinely enjoying it.

@@pukerat7562 When you stop thinking and just let the flow carry you the fights can be enjoyable.

yeah your right....3s in video games are always bad.... Mgs3 dmc3 mario bros 3 all terrible.....

@@stnrodriguez sonic 3 and knuckles totally the worst

​​@@stnrodriguez super mario bros 3 is the best

@@TheWeekendGamerz I think the joke flew over your head ...

DMC5 was kinda disappointing in a lot of areas

Nah this might be the funnest bayo

exactly

Honestly take your time, I dont understand rushing through a game just to get to the newest one. I played 1 on switch multiple times before playing 2 and this was way after 2 was released. The bayo games are fun and I hope you will like them too.

No need to, Bayo games already have high replay potential, just take your time to enjoy them for what they offer.

It's super good and onsale on the eshop now.

What are you talking about that's an angsty teen.

What do you mean.

@@saaaaaaaaadasda Nerrel really enjoyed this game. Though I wanted to, there were several issues that I had with it. Despite being very disappointed with Bayo 3, I'm still happy that Nerrel was able to have such a good time.

@@saxmanmel What issues do you had, im interested.

@@saaaaaaaaadasda Sure, I can give you my thoughts if you are genuinely asking in good faith. Here are some of the issues that *I* had. -The enemy design is very bland. The homunculi have way less personality and flair than the angels and demons. -While the Demon Slave mechanic can be fun, the slow, massive demons decelerate the pace of the combat. -The levels feel very formulaic (i.e., see a new Bayo, watch the new Bayo -spoiler-, OG Bayo rips out her heart, OG Bayo gets a new weapon and Chaos Gear). -Everything Nerrel said about Viola. -The Torture Attacks are not as varied or stylish. 90% of time you simply see Bayonetta ride the same rocket to the enemy. -The magic system does not feel as robust. It feels like a glorified summon meter. -The auto-scroller/riding verses are fun the first time, but get pretty tedious on repeated playthroughs. Honestly, the gameplay is pretty solid. Some of the above criticisms are nitpicks, to be fair. However, the biggest issue for me is the narrative. This game did not feel fun or campy compared to the previous two. The tone felt so serious, and this is without going into the infamous ending. In my opinion, the final chapters of Bayonetta 3 have some of the most egregious examples of character assassination. I know that some people would say that the story doesn’t matter, or that the story “was always bad.” To that, I would say two things. One, just because something was bad in the past, does not make it okay to be bad in the present. Two, the story does matter if it drags down the overall experience. Like, I go to the movies for the visuals and sound, right? However, it the theater absolutely *reeks*, I’m not going to enjoy myself. I’d probably leave early. Tl;dr The gameplay is not the best, but still really good. However, the narrative really drags the experience down, even when grading the story on a curve.

​@@saxmanmel Thanks, we got to the point that you need to check twice if person even sincerely wanted to know something and not just here to strawmanning other opinion. 1. - Agree on enemies, i have not fully completed review list, but there's nothing coming close to Grace&Glory, Joy, Fairness, Golem or even basic bipedal enemies in terms of moves, visual/audio cues, and personality. They don't have unique death animations, unique models for damage, they also don't have intereseting neutral animations. For exaple bidepal enemies can fly, can taunt Bayo, getting pissed off by themselves, reacting to enemy step and etc etc. 2 - When you master switching and queue attacks, you will learn that they too OP, while theres almost no incentive to use usual weapons, outside of said queue attacks. They easy to learn which is good, but they also easy to master. They don't have redundancies like weapons have, but i wish they could been put in the game with more demanding/interesting enemy designs. 3. - Yep, i've also got tired of plot "twist" when theres more blood from the characters than enemies. 4. - Im just underwhelmed by her character, calling her Nero rip-off was an actual compliment and sadly she is not. 5. - They still depend on what state enemy is (ground, air, front, back) but with small ones you almost have no control, since prompt is expiring after 1 second. And there like 2 new animations and they are the same for Viola, should she got her own punkish ones? 6. - It is, basically everything that is not an artifact and sumon is not draining her magic at all. Sumons despite having wastly different abilities and attacks have single drain for sumoning and resumoning, which means they simplify a lot of magic management. Taunt are also not adding more to the magic, another risk/reward is removed. Im a gameplay guy first, but even for me this story was so bad. I mostly bothered by Bayo characterisation and destruction of the lore, because angels and demons getting tossed out like a used toys. I still adore her in Bayo 1, perfect mix of camp and seriousness, a lot of memorable phrases and etc etc. Bayo 2 also got a decent story and even give a villain from Bayo 1 sympathetic backstory and depth. This one is mish-mash of multiverses and plot-twists... because Kamiya wanted her to travel around the world and show multiple Bayonetta's that for some reason speak the same languages and don't interact in any meaningful way. Where is all the fun, like when you watching spider man animated series with multiple spider mans, it should be awesome, but its just boring for the most part. This game is good, but riddled with so much bizzare changes and decisions that it hinders product as a whole a lot. They affect directly both first time impressions and replayability of the game.

Sexual stuff doesn't just include ass stuff you know. Look at the thigh slits in the chinese outfit

@@boshwa20 well I didn't wanna write an essay on everything that's toned down. I just used one example.

nah, there's still plenty of ass shot while she's using demons, idk what game you played- did you turn on angel mode?

@@justinjohnston8923 I dunno why people dig for things to contradict my statement. Dude yes you still see her ass in the game. I'm saying you see less of it. Never said it completely censored. Learn some reading comprehension before hitting that reply button. Her outfits obtruct her ass by default. In the other games it was there smack dap in the middle of the screen. Again key word TONED DOWN. I never said completely censored.

@@Antronix3 Also her dances are really weird, because half of the time it looks like she will do a typical Bayo move and then it suddenly changes to kids friendly tik-tok dancing, like her parents walk in or something. Lady thats doing the dances are clearly different this time around.

Not it's not. It isn't a very good game.

i wish i lived in the timeline where platinum bought astral chain rights from nintendo instead of w101.

Maybe because of Switch limitation imo. The console is far inferior from the others

@@kiririn7780 not inferior to the ps3

If you ignore the disastrously awful story, you're left with... a game that's shallower and plays worse than Bayonetta 1 (and honestly, maybe even 2). One that looks and runs like complete dogshit; has the most boring art direction and enemy designs in the series; has the worst bosses; has the worst music; and has some of the worst encounter designs.

I think Astral Chain is the future of Platinum.

@@doomdimensiondweller5627 If Astral Chain is the future of Platinum Games, then their future is a dystopian nightmare.🤭

Devil May Cry has been making improvements with every new game (except 2) but every time Bayonetta gets a new game they seem to fix one problem and make another. I don't think I've seen a series where all the games are so equally flawed, and which hasn't really grown at all. You can make an argument with which Bayonetta game is the best and I wouldn't disagree at all with your opinion, but I'd call you a crazy person if you thought DMC1 was better than 3 or 5.

@@HRIgnomious Some still consider 3 to be the best though, and think 5 was disappointing. Just saying.