Jose I don't use them solar chargers. I keep a lot of hive in Bear Country in Apalachicola National Forest I used to red snapper. Before I always go in Bear Country before I put the bees in I'll come in one week before and I put bacon on the bottom on the bottom wire let him taste it. if you have yellow jackets around you were always at the Yellow Jackets Nest first. Just some advice from and old-timer
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
That’s a great tip Ruben! Set the fence first and bait him to get a shock! Correct?
@noahriding57803 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper I'd heard this too. so it is an established technique. Yes.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Noah!🤜🏼🤛🏼
@leonardgrammer62453 жыл бұрын
Hi Jose A radio playing 24/7 worked for us just a news station is best no music. No need to get them bears dancing it makes them hungry. Thanks
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Haha True! Don’t need them getting an appetite. I wonder if they make a solar powered radio? Thanks for the feedback Leonard
@gregr53 жыл бұрын
Have you tried baiting the fence? Wrap some bacon on the wire, or hang a sardine can or tuna can on the hot wires. The bear will smell the lure, and get a full bolt in the mouth. You can also lay down some grounded chicken wire around the perimeter to ensure the bear gets it full force. If the ground is dry, they may not get much of a jolt.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be heading up in 2 days and I might just do that💪🏼
@danschneider92193 жыл бұрын
this
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
@Greg R laid and grounded the chicken wire
@bobschreiner99113 жыл бұрын
I live in Washington and we have a huge population of black bears, we specialize in fire weed honey and we have leases with timber company's and there land is full of bears. We started using S40 Solar Fence Energizer G345404 from Gallagher, you will be impressed as it has bear mode!
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
I will definitely look that charger up. I ordered a Parmak Magnum 12V already but will still be in the market for another as we have another mountain location and will need additional chargers. Thanks for dropping your feedback Bob, appreciate you!🤙🏼
@hawknation44102 жыл бұрын
We’re out here in Fresno Cali. We use your basic car battery. Your positive going to your fence and your negative to your ground. Use a 12 V Magnum solar battery charger with a small solar panel for your charge.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper2 жыл бұрын
I’ll definitely look into that for the next setup. I recently bought the Parmak 12 V solar energizer. Thanks for tuning in, always nice to see fellow California folks on the channel commenting 🤙🏼
@mitchellcampbell35213 жыл бұрын
The parmak 12 volt and put you up so motion sensor solor power lights and pour a 5 gallons buckets of water on your ground rods keep them wet we're it is so dry. I hope this help.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
I totally appreciate the feedback and the kind words of hope! Thanks for watching
@HaselorHoney3 жыл бұрын
Glad we don’t have bears 🐻 😱 Badgers are my main problem 😆Thanks for sharing and sorry the loss
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
How much damage do those critters do? I bet they must be a pain!
@HaselorHoney3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper They can knock them over and/or chew a hole in the side 😆 bit like green woodpeckers 😳
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Ah man! What a pain! Good luck with them this year bud
@garybarber71793 жыл бұрын
Same one I use in pa. Also noticed that if they want in they go threw it with no problem. High tension fence works best around here. But a lot more work and cost.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Gary we just might have to relocate based on everyone’s feedback and what we already know about them stinking bears😔
@verndahl32383 жыл бұрын
I don’t have any brand to suggest for you. It’s been too many years since I kept bees. Here is a comment or two that might help you in making a decision. 1). For the battery issue, I’ve seen solar units to boost battery life. Also, can take a pretty strong jolt to knock a bear back. I know of one incident where a bear got hit by a bee fence and afterwards took out a 6 foot manzanita bush, completely up rooted. 2) You now have that location established as a food source for the bear. This might break the bears cycle. I think, once the food source is established, they come back every few days. Going to be harder to keep him out now. Might try moving the bees out for a week, then bringing them back to a different location on the property. Be sure your fence is active immediately. Hope this helps.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
@@verndahl3238 thank you for the great tips and feedback
@Hawaiian_Grizzly_Bear3 жыл бұрын
For a fence energizers I would go with Gallagher or patriot if you lay some welded wire on the ground and brown that wire you’ll have a better chance of hitting that dear heart some people call it tanglefoot but basically the Bears steps on the welded wire and that ground him out you connect that directly to your grounding rods. This way he’ll have a better direct path to ground
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback. We are getting a Parmak but will also research the Gallagher and Patriot? Do you think chicken wire on the ground and grounded also works as affective as what you mentioned?
@Hawaiian_Grizzly_Bear3 жыл бұрын
The Gallagher turbo wire is also a good product. Much better than a lot of other poly wires on the market. You can also place pieces of mylar on the wire. It will get the bears to investigate it when they come to the wire. They will put their nose on it to smell it and zap they will not like it. The bear that knows there's good stuff inside that fence will be hard to stop. But it can be done. It'll just take time. If he loses more then he wins he will move on.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏼
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
@@Hawaiian_Grizzly_Bear I’ll also google that turbo wire from Gallagher. Thanks a lot🤜🏼🤛🏼
@decaturridgebees87613 жыл бұрын
A bee yard in the Tennessee mountains was playing a radio 24/7. They said it helped
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks for sharing. I wonder what kind of music he dislikes🤔 lol 😆
@decaturridgebees87613 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper if it were me, I’d play reruns of anything Fran Drescher was ever in. I don’t care what species you are, its intolerable!
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Lol😂
@gonnagetya14333 жыл бұрын
I use Parmak Solarpack 12 (sp?), black bear tried to dig under the fence and hit the lower wire (I actually run a ground wire along the very bottom at ground level of the metal posts as our ground is very dry, but he hit the hot). Left a trail of poo down the driveway as it ran away. Kept coming back to test the fence, obviously remembering the pre-fence feast but is now only leaving a trail of crushed grass as it circles the fence. I really believe you have to have a higher joule rating to get them to pay attention as previously we used the 10 mile version of what you are using. That did good for deer and the like, but the bear just pushed the fence post aside. Not sure what types of bears out west, I have heard ours are smaller in New England, but this one is able to put claw marks in trees higher than I can reach. If I find a higher powered one, I might just switch to it as I can see the bear is testing it for weaknesses but I don't have electric out there obviously for the bigger ones.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your setup man! Tho bear just need to get lit up one good time
@jdapiaries3 жыл бұрын
Try a wide impedance charger. Works better in dry conditions. Sometimes they can be a little hard to find.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
I’ll google it John! Any brand in particular? Thanks for commenting and sharing
@dadu633 жыл бұрын
I'll come to California and be a beeyard watcher for ya.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
I’ll provide the lawn chair and tent⛺️ ❤️
@dadu633 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper I hope one day I can make it out to visit yall.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome my friend
@frankmachado3 жыл бұрын
With this horrible drought we're in that bear is probably extra hungry It's going to be tough to stop them
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Frank my friend! I have a strong feeling you are correct😕
@markk48613 жыл бұрын
Parmak 6 pack, if ground is dry and grounding is an issue alternate hot and ground wires on fence posts along with using ground rods. So if using 6 fence wires 3 or 4 will be hot and the rest will be grounds. Bear pokes his head between wires and zap. Remember bears have a lot of hair for that spark to get through and the bigger the fence charger the better!
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and dropping us a comment with your feedback Mark🙏
@damonlinthwaite46713 жыл бұрын
My parmak 12v still didn't stop the bears from getting my hives it took a combo of the electric fence solar motion sensed lights and solar motion sensors alarms and a few 12 gage trip alarms bear hadn't been back yet .
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
That sound pretty serious Damon. So glad he hasn’t returned, want to come to California and visit us🤷🏻♂️Mabe you can help me with the same setup😀 Yeah man I need to find a good solution! This location is just so good as far as resources for the bees
@hawknation44102 жыл бұрын
Also use barb wire fencing
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!👍🏼
@BESHYSBEES3 жыл бұрын
I’m in Australia 🇦🇺 so we don’t get bear problems but we have meat ants 🐜 that will abscond the bee’s from the hive in hours
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Any solutions for that?
@BESHYSBEES3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper poisoning the ants nests is about all we can do
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
I see! Hope you don’t have any problems and good luck with them!🤞🏻
@cowdudy3 жыл бұрын
The grounding is important, not just the rods but run every other wire a ground right to the charger. That way it will be grounded and complete the circuit at the same time as it pushes through. It works for rank bulls and pigs it will work for this bear. I believe Bob Bonnie has a video out about how it should be set up.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve! Kelly will be working on the video from when we were up there setting up the fence. Let me know what you think about it. Appreciate the commenting
@danschneider92193 жыл бұрын
I have barbed wire and I bait the wire with bacon or tin foil with peanut butter on it.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Has a bear ever made contact with that setup in your experience?
@danschneider92193 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper Yes The barbs help get to the skin, the baiting gets them to lick the wire, had the tin foil peanut butter bait pulled off and the bees are OK
A $1.00 cartridge will take care of that bear. Just need the $400 plane ticket a d out of state license. Lol
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper2 жыл бұрын
Haha my man!😂
@noahriding57803 жыл бұрын
I haven't had bear trouble myself. But I'd heard from people that did and they often say once the bear has a taste its very hard to be rid of them. You may have to do some extreme measures. sorry this happened to you. Maybe you could do multiple electric fences, and move the yard? People I'd talked to that had bear trouble think that moving the bee yard is one of their good options and that its pretty much hard/impossible to get them to not come back. So some of them may consider a move because of this. But I get also that its not that easy to find a bee yard. :( And takes lots of time to set up. :S You know if you got a bear problem, you could see if there's a houndsman in your area. Thing with that is I don't know your states rules. But where I'm at, there's this niche of people that are called houndsmen that love dealing with that kind of stuff. (Not sure what your legal requirements are.) Part of why they might jump at it is because they have to keep their dogs trained and fresh on techniques and handling.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Yea man! I just talked to one of the managers up there and if this bear becomes a real problem they will deal with him🙌🏼
@hootervillehoneybees86643 жыл бұрын
I do wildlife control for living. Probably nothing to stop it needs trapped relocated or put down. Might get damage control permit from the state hire a trapper. Bear won the challenge once they win they know they can win wont give up till hes eating brood. Fence might have been down or weak first time it came let it win. Once they win builds confidence ..
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Oh man😣 Really hope this beat becomes a loser and we win the rest of the year. Realistically Kelly and I feel it might just be best to relocate the hives 😞 Thanks for the feedback
@mitchellcampbell35213 жыл бұрын
And we're it is so dry Thier pour water on your ground rod put up motion sensor light s that are solor that will help u to get a stronger charger.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mitchell! i need to research a solar drip system for the soil near the earth rods
@VaderSpade3 жыл бұрын
Once the bears learn they can get in it's hard to keep them out. I'm not sure what Fish & Game rules are these days but they used to set barrel traps for us. I think you can shoot them IF you "catch them in the act" but I would double check. Back in the day I spent many a night sleeping on the back of the truck with my rifle. I use Parmak 30 mile boxes. Cell cameras help keep an eye on them if you have coverage. I have a bear dog named Rusty, he'll take care of it.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
I still need to make a trip up there and connect with you Randy. We need to be talk and you can give me some pointers in person about fences and game cams that you use
@Tcrim3543 жыл бұрын
Are you electrifying the whole woven wire or are you running regular strands of tinsel wire and charging them? I’d also be concerned about your ground and the amount of Joules.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
I’m running 5 hot aluminum wire with one ground down below. I feel my grounds are good because of the area we are in, I am concerned that my solar charger battery unit my be lacking it’s integrity being that I left it on over the winter and it being on while the hot wires were grounded out to the chicken wire when the bear got it last time. I was reading easily 3000 with my light tester. The light slightly read up to 5000 but not as bright as the 3000 marking. I’m assuming 3000 was my actual reading. What do you think?
@Tcrim3543 жыл бұрын
The rule is 3 feet of ground rod per joules. I strongly recommend not using TS charges, find one at a true farm store and check out Greg Judy. he is a great youtube source
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
We ordered a Parmak Magnum 12V solar
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback man🙌🏼
@rickneils18373 жыл бұрын
pour sum salt water around the ground rods. I KEEP 30 HIVES SHOOTING DISTANCE FROM MY HOUSE.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
I’ll need to configure a solar drip for my ground rods. Thanks Rick! Yea I wish I lived closer for sure!
@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre19243 жыл бұрын
sorry the bear keeps getting your bees. here we use 30-06. bear meat is good.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard that from a buddy of mine. Have you ever made bear jerky?
@harrisjoubertwithsleepycre19243 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper yep. makes great sausage too. just get it skinned and cooled as fast as you can. dont hang it in the shed for a week like you do deer
@BIGREDTECH3 жыл бұрын
Yes and yes bear meat is delicious!
@rlfamilyfarm64883 жыл бұрын
You're going to need more power. A solar fencer will not even stop a deer. You probably can use a deep cycle battery, a power inverter, and a solar battery charger to utilize a good cattle fencer. (And if you do, DON'T touch it by accident!!) Good luck!
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a serious setup! “I like it!”👌🏼 Thanks for the feedback Rob and appreciate the support man
@Caarcher2013 жыл бұрын
Get a hunting license and a bear tag, lol! I use parmak and haven't had any issues yet. But I have heard that once a bear knows it can get in and what the reward is... It will not stop getting in. Best bet is to move em several miles away. Taking a risk with bears can be an expensive, time consuming and heart breaking lesson.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately hunting the bear on this property isn’t an option. We did thankfully met a rancher at a local Tractor Supply and he gave us some tips and offered a new bee yard on 500 acres🙏🏼 So if we need we will relocate them just a few miles. We ordered the Parmak Magnum solar 12V charger. Thanks for the feedback Jeremy
@noahriding57803 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper I wonder if you can double rig up the electric fences, or more than 1 fence. I mean why not if you already know you are in a big problem.
@MrFishone7773 жыл бұрын
12 gauge shotgun is what we use. Lol just to scare them away.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
😂 I catch your drift
@wadebarnes67203 жыл бұрын
Need one that runs a backup 12 volt battery
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Wade I totally agree, recently bought a Parmak 12v solar powered. Any brands you like running in particular?
@wadebarnes67203 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper right now I have a tractor supply 12 volt ain't had no trouble with it it is not the cheap one one about mid-range dogs cats and deers don't go in mine no more I touched it one time and I wasn't about to go in it.lol
@wadebarnes67203 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper but it will do both to 12 volt or solar
@wadebarnes67203 жыл бұрын
With animals if you would have a motion light that would change just a little bit every time it went off and leave a pair of your underwear they stay away
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I’ll leave my socks too🤷🏻♂️😅
@taddrienstra72473 жыл бұрын
30.06 180 gr.
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
💥💪🏼
@taddrienstra72473 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper dead bears whose hide is on your wall dont bother bees
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
😂
@hockinghillshoneyfarm92733 жыл бұрын
220 volts that will do the job
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Dave what do you use to generate this type of power💥
@hockinghillshoneyfarm92733 жыл бұрын
@@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper Well unless you got power that you can tap into it would be tough even 110 would be good you might try playing a radio out there all the time anything to distract them would help
@russellkoopman30043 жыл бұрын
Old TV's with the glass picture tube has 30,000 volts that will jump out at you 2 inches if you get close to it. Not much amperage just a lot of volts. Rig that up and no bear will touch it again - actually they don't have to touch it. LOL
@TheCaliforniaBeekeeper3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if a solar powered radio would work. I only go out there once every 2 weeks