As a toolmaker who learned about metals I agree that hammered forged barrels a a better choice, move the material rather than remove the material

Just remember the angle of the dangle is directly proportional to the heat of the meat

The nice thing about hammer forging is the metal is work hardened so the barrel can take the higher pressures.

Great news, now that 5.45x39 uppers went way up in price and are extremely hard to find now, Bear Creek needs to make these uppers.

I have use 4 of Bear Creeks barrels, I can damn near put every round so far thru the same hole with the 6.5 Grendel. The 3 x 7.62x39 barrels are all sub moa. No hickups, not ever one.

I think I'm up to 6 barrels from this company and they keep on treating me right. Most i can get sub moa @ 100 yards. Very good for a simi auto .

Really hope you can expand the length and calibers you offer in the CHF barrels soon. I nabbed one of the earlier offerings and have been very pleased with it so far, do wish I had waited a little longer for you to start offering the 1:8 twist, but I have had no issues with the 1:7.

Generally speaking, your chrome lined and/or chrome lined barrel will outlast traditionally/button rifled barrels 3-to-1, however they're typically less accurate. Stainless, Button rifled ARs that are made from quality components and assembled well can hold groups as tight as 0.25" at 100 yards, but expect those groups to open up over time. CHF Chrome Lined barrels typically hold 2-4" groups at 100 yards, but you can expect those groups to remain very consistent. As far as value for your dollar goes, a button rifled 4150 Chrome Moly Vanadium barrel is what I go for unless I'm trying to build for precision long range shooting. QPQ coated barrels aren't quite as durable as chrome lined, but generally don't negatively impact accuracy as much. I've been using Bear Creek Arsenal as a source of parts for upper builds that I sell on the side for a while now. While they're a budget friendly company, and aren't my first choice for high quality builds, I have put together a couple of uppers with their barrels and bolts that will hold accuracy with any of the high dollar builds I've done. Their customer service is fantastic as well! Because of how good they've been to me over the years, I always try and use at least one part from them somewhere in every single upper I build, even if it's just a gas tube.

Great video. Would be awesome if you did another video on CHF, chrome lined barrels.

Turbocam's TX4 surface treatment is beating out melonite QPQ for wear resistance - I'm getting it on my AR barrels. It's good for cut, button, or CHF barrels. Easy decision!

This is what I was trying to explain to a friend, just sent him the video.

Bless your business

SOLD! I was just about to order a hitman industries barrel but saw this video and now I'm buying bear creak for just 10 bucks more.

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Hammer Forged is best(imho) but machine for this very expensive, this is why method not so popular

I just purchased a complete lower and upper for an AR-308. And I must say.... I am thoroughly impressed. The lower is just your standard basic lower. The upper however is a beautiful 416r stainless steel heavy barrel. 20 inches long. When I received the firearm I noticed that there was no machining or tooling marks anywhere. I took it apart and I cleaned and lubricated it thoroughly and then I sat there for about a half hour just working the action around. Then I took it apart clean it and lubricated it once more. And then I took it out. I currently have I don't know somewhere around 400 rounds down range without a single failure in any way shape or form I mean no hiccups whatsoever. And it is maintaining accuracy perfectly. I will definitely be a repeat customer.

Any plans to bring back the chrome lined barrels?

Your accent changes every frickin sentence

I go to Bearcreek for all my 2A needs best prices and quality I've found so far. Great products and customer service. Don't know how it took this long for me to stumble upon your YT channel, but definitely sub'ing. Keep yo with the great work.

totally unrelated random comment: your accent, sir, fascinates me! First video of yours I have ever watched, and, that is what caught my ear first even before learning this about barrels, which I did not know either. I am hearing bits and pieces of South African English? British English? AND American English? Am I right am I right?😂 But all combined together into your own unique accent!! Well that is personal I suppose. It’s just that, I am always fascinated by language and accents, having a semi-musical background, and so the way in which any person anywhere talks is always catching my ear because, it also lends a window into their personal story and personal history. So therefore I do not mean any disrespect. Just that, you accent fascinated me when I first heard it and I felt compelled to comment!

So let's talk about rifling. I want a BCA10, but I'm an old cast bullet guy. I make my own lead, tin, nickle slugs and they work great with cut rifling. CHF barreled means polygonal rifling most of the time, and that means no lead because the hills and valleys aren't deep enough to spin and stabilize the bullets going down the bore. They end up shooting lead like a smooth bore and getting tighter from lead deposits which drives up pressure to potentially dangerous levels (like the old exploding glocks.) So what I want to know is : can I get cut rifling? What is the difference in thousandths of an inch between your lands and grooves? CHF is great, but it limits my ammunition choices. That limitsmy decisionto purchase. And, in a shtf apocalypse situation, lead may be all you can find....

Hammer forged barrels are more popular in Europe. CZ is one company from experience produces hammer forged barrels. Not sure if it is cheaper to produce but they seem to be more stable and have better wear characteristics than cut or button barrels.... Its down to opinion and how much cash one wants to part with. Honestly how many of average folks wear out a barrel from actual use? Most folks either trade or sell give away and move up to another rifle or handgun from boredom or needing to just have something new or keep up with buddies. Back when a rifle, or fowler was a tool that put food on the table daily. It's place was a sacred spot in the home ...over the fireplace mantle. Folks bought the best arm they could afford. Having arms showed their place in society. Today it's more sport and being bling.

Good to know. So Bear Creek makes Cold Hammer Forgged AR15 barrels? When do you start to make it?

So is cold hammer forged barrels therefore strengthens toughness, and therefore tempers the metal (I think that’s what he said in video). Does this mean that the tensile strength increases overall. This could imply that cold hammer forged barrels should have longer life but become unstable or drift accuracy as they warm up. Perhaps button rifling work hardens the surface of the rifling as the grooves are cut and now left with a balance transition from high tensile to more ductile steel deeper in the metal underneath the rifling. I have no idea which method is best. I do like the smooth perfection of cold hammer forged.

What are the differences between stainless barrels and other barrels?

I'm sure this method has been well tested and is the preferred method by many high end barrel manufacturers. It seems to me that a cold forged barrel would lend itself to movement when heated up with multiple consecutive rounds being fired. It seems to me that the heat would release stress build up in the steel through cold hammer forging process.

@BearCreekAR I purchased the BC-15 AR .300blk out rifle. Tried shooting subs through it, and it hung up ever round shot through the 30 round magazine using sub sonic rounds. I called 6 or 7 times, and left messages with there customer service line. They will not answer there phone or return calls. I figure all I need is a lighter spring so it will properly eject the casings. Expect No service after the purchase for Bear Creek Arsenal.

I want a hexagon barrel, like the hk p7m10

Can someone please explain to me on how to get a response from this company?!? I've emailed and called many times but can't even get a "f!@# off" response from them!!! This is ridiculous!!!

Any chance y’all make a 6.8 spc upper for next hunting season

Awesome video. I like the Logo.

thanks you made my day

That is true if you’re not already dealing very high quality barrel material… you cannot improve something that is already beautifully beautifully foraged from great material… I find the button process gleans more accurate barrels

They use a "carbine" (a rifle) to make the rifling? Curious, I'd probably use carbide.

Your BC15 straight fluted barrel versus spiral fluted, neither mention much about the barrel. Can you tell me more about the barrels, and why one is rated with a much higher MOA and price? Barrel material? Cold forging? Or something else?

Thanks great video

How tight is your torque on built uppers? I almost broke my bench trying to get the barrel nut off and had to give up when my vice broke

Thanks, answer to my question.

What is the hole diameter for a 7'62 barrel?Kalashnikov and what are the safe dimensions?

What is the internal diameter of AR-15 barrel before rifling if we rifle by using rifling button?

Interested in a 1/7 20" length HBAR with a Wylde chamber. Seems like all the Wylde chambers are 1/8.

So do you own your CHF machines or do you sub contract those barrels out?

Chf is the way to. More accurate, harder steel.

Probably a dumb question but do the chf need any break in or good to go out of the box , thanks for your time

Why is it so hard to find information on hammer forging machines I've been trying and trying to figure out what type of hammer forging machines gun companies use to rifle barrels I'd like to start my own gun company rifling is one of the most difficult processes of making a gun so idk why it's so hard to find this information

What about the 4th method of barrel rifling: Broaching?

Could wire electrical discharge machining (wire-EDM) be of any benefit, or possible, to make rifle barrels, or achieve higher precision tolerances in a trued smooth bore surface before cut or button or CHF?

Its just work hardening the metal its not tempering anything. frankly if they just heat treated the steel it might work even better at least untill the barrel got so hot that it would lose the temper but by that point thermal warping will have caused loss in accuracy

Criterion crew?

So forge is good for full auto. Got it

I would like to see BCA do a ar15 a1 clone in a 1/12 twist.

I’m taking gun smithing classes right now and am looking at electropolishing. Do you guys do that at all?

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How does the button rotate when being forced through the barrel? Is it the same principle as a rifled slug where the cut of the exterior of the button forces it to rotate?

Wait nevermind remind... I was under the impression that they cold hammer forged all of their barrels. Im guessing mine is not because they didn't mention what it was made of in the description and it was 75 bucks

The button is Carbide, Not carbine, (Carbine is a short rifle), . Hammer forging does not rearrange the molecules. Unless you hit it with a Nuke. It does however realign the grain structure of the steel. Same as in Knife Making. Rearranging the Molecular structure was a myth that persisted for years t suggest that a forged blade was superior to a stock removal blade. It is fully disproven. KnifeMaker/Retired after over 47+ Years i the Craft

Broach Cut and Button Cut, Hammer Forged is just a cheap way to produce rifling while cutting Costs!

CHF can withstand FA.

Cut rifled barrels more accurate in my experience in centerfires.

He seems to use the words carbide and carbine interchangeably

Cut rifling is the most accurate. It also has minimum tool marks and the finish is much more accurate end to end. For precision rifles cut is the only choice.

Didn't know lgbtqw has a new gun channel

Do you sell barrel blanks as well if i want to import in india for my company

Why are your 300blk barrels 1:8? I have yours at 8.5" and using subs it is a very close thing and depending on ammo, they keyhole (which I try to not think about as I mount a can). Q products are running 1:5. True, some supersonics cut for expansion don't like 5:1 much. So, 1:6 exists but is rare. Maybe BCA sets the trend and standardizes on 1:6 twist? Please?

For all practical purposes, all things being equal there is no inherant difference in accuracy between any of these methods. Bullets don't care how the rifling is made, they care about surface finish, consistency, and concentricity. Steyr was one of the early adopters and developers of the rotary CHF process, Ruger was an early US adopter. The main advantage of the CHF process, for the companies that can afford the investment, is high production cost savings. All the claims about accuracy, wear resistance, work hardening, ect. is just marketing babble. A button rifled barrel can be every bit as tough, wear resistant, and accurate as any CHF barrel.

Are you British or American

Any 7.62x39 CHF barrels coming soon?

if your barrel will shoot in the .1's or .2's sign me up or 1/5 moa

Hammer forged barrels are cheap to manufacture and the least accurate by far of the three methods. They do last a few shots longer.

To be fair m240 machine gun barrels are cut rifling..

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Then why don’t you offer hammer forged AR barrels? Don’t expect me to believe that your $80 barrels are hammer forged.

Some of your pronunciation is reminiscent of the south african accent…

Only thing we know for sure is your guns are terrible

Lose the creep accent and the creep beard, probably...

Any chance my order will be shipped before Christmas?

Here we go adding background music which so much more important than the subject matter. Unsub!

I have looked down the barrel of an Bear Creek AR10 with the 20th stainless steel barrel I don't see no rifling in the barrel I've seen him in the grands in 14's AKSK s's room is in 300 windbacks I don't see one in the Bear Creek AR1020 inch barrel stainless steel where's the rifling at it looks like inside of a pipe no rifling