Ah! Thanks so much, I've been wondering why that was happening ever since they added the world grid. Makes sense now.... In hindsight, it seems obvious :P

why would anyone go through this much trouble for when all the youtubers just use that flying cheat mod anyway

@@Paperclown it's not a flying cheat mod, it's an advanced vanilla game setting

@@Paperclown ✨Hover Pack✨

Ehh, they aren't that bad :) The basics are pretty easy, once you do it a couple times, it flies along. But yea, I wouldn't be against a tool to speed things up a bit.

yeah agree. Calling this easy is bs. It's tedious af and I am out of words why this game doesnt have roads. Also, driving on the roads bumbs and its literally smoother to drive offroad.

i want to be inside the vehicle with auto mode on as a taxi service :(

@@Henry-sv3wv I like the devs and the game, but they have so much shit in the game that has nothing to do with what people actually enjoy doing. The fact that they don't have proper road system alone, is a mystery.

@@teipkep There is no mystery: this game is about automating tasks, in the form of factories, not about building beautifully curved roads. There is no added value to having curved roads except for the aesthetic of it, which again, is not the core of the game. Mind you, I'm not saying you can't do beautifull things in this game. I'm just saying it wasn't designed with that specific purpose in mind. Also try to keep in mind that you don't actually know what other people enjoy doing.

Thanks, I'm happy that it helps!

How to build 1/8 of a corner in 26 easy steps! :D - Sincerely, a person with little patience watching this video after the blueprint drop

Glad it was helpful! Even with the blueprints version, knowing how to handle them manually can help fill in the gaps where the blueprints don't quite do it.

Thanks André! And yea, absolutely. I'm sure there is always some messy things that I can find while editing :P

My pleasure! The great thing about roads is you can start building them before you even unlock asphalt. Thanks to the customizers' ability to quickly switch material types :) When you get a little further along be sure to stop by my discord at some point and post some screenshots, would love to see what you come up with! There is also some great tips a few folks post from time to time there. Someone recently found a way to eliminate z-fighting in the roads (and anywhere really).

@@relyengaming i'm probably not gonna start them yet until i get more confident in how I want the logistics of my road design to be (also need coupons for beams and ramps). But with this video in mind, I can already think about the spacing and entrance heights of my factories :D. I'll check out disc!

Glad to hear it. I look forward to seeing your future builds👍

Thanks Vandal, I’m glad it proves useful. Would love to see what you build with it, feel free to post screenshots on my discord in the future!

Yea, it's amazing the cool things members of the community keep coming up with. That's why I love seeing other people's builds, so much creativity out there.

Hey DrkNinja! :) There are plenty of great ways to do a central storage. I will definitely do a video on one at some point :) There are so many great way to do them though, it's really just about what flavor you like.

Thanks, and yea planning out roads can be a challenge. What I'll do is just scaffold out my roads quickly, without working on the side walls. Keeping the effort to a minimum until I know where I'm taking it. With this method, it can be easier to move "off grid" and let the roads decide where you place your factory. Which can lead to some very interesting designs. But certainly not a requirement. As for elevation, I tend to stick to the 2m (or 1m sometimes) ramps where possible. It looks pretty good and doesn't hinder the Tractor very much (as it is really slow on 4m ramps). But, if you are in a tight space, 4m ramps work fine. Just play around with it a bit, sometimes it takes a little trial and error. But eventually you'll settle in on something you like.

@@relyengaming I assume it may be beneficial for tractors to build ramps up 1m, then 2m and then 4m, to keep some momentum of a vehicle :)

Glad you enjoyed it! Satisfactory is an absolutely fantastic open world factory building game. If you try it out, come back and let me know what you think!

Thank you Blackchaos :) But, you should see my builds before I started KZfaq. I made a lot of boxes, with a couple of windows. I'm no different, I see something that inspires me and I see if I can make it work the way I'd like to do it. When you build something new, just try to change 1 or 2 things that you normally don't do. Don't worry if it works out or not, you can try something different on the next build. You'll naturally learn new patterns for yourself, just like your factories. You can do it, just keep it fun :)

Thanks and good luck on the road project :)

Absolutely, you can pretty much do any size road with this method. The quick method works best with 3 foundation width roads, because it simplifies both the outside and inside of the turn. But you can use the 2nd method with just about any size road or angle. If your 5 foundation width roads uses the catwalk 10 degree turns, the outside part of the road will be pretty fast. But the inside you'll have to spend a little more time on using the 2nd method.

Thanks Joe, I appreciate it. I know there is a lot in the video, but I wanted to make sure all the useful stuff was there that I could think of.

I am looking forward to seeing how their rain system works out. :)

That's great you are thinking about getting back into Satisfactory. The thing I always recommend is play to have fun. If you do pick it up again and have any questions, feel free to hit me up on my Discord.

You could download a starter save. Most of them have everything up to coal power unlocked so you don't have to slog through biofuel and early spaghetti.

LOL 😂 Thanks! And I actually have a follow up video coming tomorrow (hopefully) that has the solution to the ramp issues.

While I agree it would be nice, the issue is that there are so many different ways people would like to do their roads. 2 Lanes, 3 Lanes, 4 Lanes, split middles, intersections, etc. A simple spline system might work, but it would force you into whatever road look they design. How would you do intersections and traffic circles. There is a lot of options, features, and design work that would go into such a system and there is a lot of other areas they probably want to work on. With any luck, we might see something in the future. I just want them to figure out how to merge the foundations, so that vehicles will drive better on them. A spline system would be great though. Until then, we have to make do with what we've got.

@@relyengaming I don't know how they could do it, but Cities: Skylines has some of the best road building mechanics I have ever used. I think if they played around with it a bit, the could be inspired to at least allow this to be much faster.

@@bergeronstudios2 Agreed, they definitely could, and that would be sweet. But I get the feeling it would be pretty low on their priority list at the moment. There is probably a bunch of other stuff they want to get done.

You bet! Glad you enjoyed it!

Welcome! Glad you enjoyed it :)

Gave it a try and had to fiddle a bit to try and repeat what you were saying. I had some success, and it does a nice job matching up the starting point. But when I did both ends, it didn't quite line up quite right in the middle. But definitely cleaner than the way I was doing the ramps with the big gaps. Great job, thanks! p.s. Sorry for the late reply :P

@@relyengaming yea think that is due to the angel of which the inclines are as they not as smooth or gradual as the 10degs. (I'm not really sure what they different foundations angel are and feeling a bit lazy to do the trig haha) Glad you were able to understand what i was trying to say tho.

Haha, sorry about having to rebuilding your entire map :P I'm glad you enjoyed it. It was just something I worked on in my playthrough world for several hours, trying to figure it out. After I had it, I thought they looked so good I had to dedicate a video on how to do them. Good luck with the upgrades, I'd love to see progress later :)

Thanks Dan! Glad you liked it!

The blueprint version is much faster ;)

Glad it helped! I hope you've built some magnificent roads :)

@@relyengaming my roads are so much better now because of your videos!

@@MrFishstxx And they are going to be even better to drive on come Update 8 with the new vehicle physics updates :)

@@relyengaming I heard! I am very excited about that.

Thanks 50 Shades of Skittles! I went all in with vehicles in Update 5, these were the result of wanting something clean :) I have blueprints for them now in the updated video, huge time saver. Although, knowing how they are put together is a good thing for when the blueprints just don't quite cover something.

@@relyengaming yep, I see them in your discord too. ❤️

You're welcome!

I appreciate the suggestion, I did get a solution from a community member named Janno. I have a "Better Ramps" video which covers the elegant solution in detail, along with a few extra items.

Not sure which party you are referring to, got a time stamp?

Yea, excellent point! Micro Manage is a fantastic mod and a great solution to some of the vanilla issues for those that use mods.

Ah, excellent info, thanks for that. I knew it was some kind of precision detail, but didn't know exactly what.

yes, and this was already a tip/trick in update 4 or before (when there was no worldgrid yet), to build new foundations exactly oriented NSEW instead of at some random angle. some people had tried building a huge square of platforms (eg for a traintrack or belts going around half the world), and when they came back to the start faced either a small gap or (even worse) couldn't fit the last foundation or conveyor support in the available space.

Yea, I used to set the first foundation down and then use SCIM to make sure that the X/Y axis was divisible by 800 and the Z axis was divisible by 100. This basically made sure your foundations were on a grid you could setup anywhere. Without having to drag a line of foundations across the map. Happened to line up with the future world grid too :P

Awesome, thank you!

Happy to be of service :)

That would explain the strangeness of the world grid with 1m foundations :) Thanks :)

There is a couple of ways to deal with this. One is to play with the curves a bit when you are close to the factory. With a little trial and error, you can probably get the road lined up with the grid, it might overlap at the join, but it is possible to get it close. Another is to build the road out from you other factory and do some on/off ramp merger somewhere with the road. If you stick to 90 turns, you can use the radial method to stay on grid, although it doesn’t look as great as the little curves do. Feel free to ping me on my discord if you have more questions.

The catwalk is just over rotated, happens to me all the time. Just keep rotating it and it will line back up

I’ve actually just finished a version of this for blueprints and will have a video out about it very soon.

Oh trust would be so nice, would definitely cut down on the item count for this build style too.

I'm not 100% sure what you are referring to on the 2nd method, when it comes to rotation. Is this for creating road curves or the pillar sidewalls? If you have Discord you can hop onto mine and we can work this out. Maybe some screenshots would add some clarity. Otherwise, if you could provide some more specifics here I'll do my best to identify your issue.

Lol, I always love those threads that show real life pipes or electrical work that’s looks like a satisfactory player.

I would probably have to see it to give you an accurate answer. Feel free to hop on my discord and post some screenshots. Outside that, remember the quick method here is designed for 10 degree turns with the catwalks (works fine with radial method too). The beams should be crossing, if they aren’t your pillars won’t either. On a side note I’m working on a blueprint version for this, which should help save some time.

Well, I've tried doing that by adding another freeform beam to the other side of the pillar so that you can snap from one side to the other. And it kind works for the angled side, but not so much for the side that is parallel to the ground. I've found a couple methods that get the whole process close, but nothing that gets it as clean. Interesting note though, you can get a beam to go perpendicular to a pillar in the Z (up/down) access, just not for another beam for some reason.

@@relyengaming i found a method that i posted just before that works

You can unlock the pieces in the awesome shop

The "quick" method I talk about in the video works out well with 3 foundation width roads, this is just where the numbers get close enough that it ends up looking good. I'm sure there are other breakpoints that work out well. However, the 2nd method (advanced method) I discuss is for dealing with issues like this, where things don't line up great. The best thing to do is just get some pillars down, whether they are bad or decent, it doesn't matter. Then you can just start fixing all the seems with the advanced method. That said, obviously cleaner starting pillars makes this a bit easier, but it's easy to remove and correct as you go. Feel free to ping me on my discord and we can always hop in a channel and figure it out.

@@relyengaming I might have thought of a solution. I haven’t tested it yet So the issue I was running into was I could fit a pillar onto the beams, but there would be 1 meter gaps on either side since the beam needs to be 6 meters long because it’s a 2lane road So, I think if I made each beam 6 meters, and then placed a pillar on both end sides of every beam, then brought each end in one, I could get pillars that were 6 meters long. They would be clipping in the middle, but it would look decent I think

@@Ballen355 Yea that would work fine. If the ends don’t line up the way you like, you can just use the advanced method to clean it up. I do something similar in different places, especially when I want the final product to be as neat and even as possible.

Lol, did I say Triangles? I meant three dimensional polygons that just make things work :P

Hey thanks for replying. I gotcha lol the void filling triangles. Now I'm wondering if anyone else has a problem with vehicles (especially Explorers) having a traction/collision issue with the edges of the tiles. It drops my speed to a very highway firendly 75-ish MPH but acts like I'm driving on bricks

@@shiznitts Yep, this is something I’d really like for Coffee Stain to fix, it definitely makes the explorer less enjoyable on roads vs regular terrain. I could see myself building a fun race track if we could get the explorer up to full speed on foundations.

@@relyengaming That would be AWESOME lol so it isn't something I'm doing wrong or something wrong with my game at least. Appreciate the replies and the much needed tutorials!

I have a video about merging grids perfectly, you can find it here => kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q76PZcxpuZmokqs.html

Yea, I'd love to know. Someone showed me a method using pillars, which is pretty cool. But we discovered it doesn't work in multiplayer (for clients). So, if you have another method I'd love to learn :) (more tools = better)

@@relyengaming Did the solution he mentioned worked? How is it?

Asphalt, unlockable from the awesome shop in the customizer tab I believe.

Haha, well, if I really went in depth, I'm sure the video would of doubled in length :P

@@relyengaming Nice video btw man. I used your style for my world.

@@Domtronic Glad to hear it, feel free to drop by my discord and post some screenshots at some point. Would love to see what you come up with :)

Agreed, curves would be nice. But depending on how you want to do your roads, that can leave a lot of variables. Specific curves would limit you to certain angles and certain road widths. With any luck we will get some form of splined roads. But again we end up with a fixed width and limited choices. Hopefully, if we ever get them, Coffee Stain will come up with a good solution. Regardless, the techniques in this video can be used on other projects outside of roads. Good luck! 👍

Quite right. I had intended to do that when I added the ramps follow up. I’ll add some soon.

Yes, they are just asphalt foundations. You can't really paint the top of the asphalt, but the sides are concrete and can be painted if desired.

@@relyengaming thx! I chalked or up to my colors being different. Great video! I think I've applied all the lessons. I'm just trying to figure out the side pillars for a 2 lane off ramp.

@@Aprime86 Outstanding :) Once you get the 2nd method (adv method) down, you can probably much tackle most situations where the 1st method fails. And the 3rd method (the Janno method, from the 2nd video) can handle the rest :)

If I'm understanding you right, then you could probably use the DC Wan method of making a turn on the 2nd (half) foundation. Since it does a perfect turn on the foundation corner, you shouldn't have any "sticking out" issue. But now that I think about it, I think you could also use 3 walkways (instead of 2). That would give you an easy way to create the 1 1/2 foundations, but still get the same "turn" that I use in the video. Hopefully one of these ideas helps.

I made a mistake. I actualy made my 1 lane roads 1 foundation + 1 catwalk wide with clipping. I made my roads 4 catwalks wide. While having 1 extra catwalk on the inside aswell as on the outside of the road were i then started making the curve inwards or outwards. I made it so be placing 6 catwalks wide and remove the 4 in between to replace them with road foundations. With this i do get foundation sticking out. I do wonder if dont want to redo this. If i can hide the foundations with pillar?

I'm trying to imagine exactly what you mean, so if I'm misunderstanding, just let me know. If you are going for 1 1/2 foundations wide, I would follow the 2 cat walk method I demonstrate in the video for curves. Since, 2 catwalks forward, 10 degree turn, 2 catwalks, etc etc. To get the half foundation, you can add a catwalk on the inside of each set of 2... Making a right angle out of catwalks so to speak. You should be able to attach a foundation to this additional catwalk, which in essence is half a foundation over. Then remove the extra catwalk and attach a foundation to the original 2 catwalks. You should then have a 1 1/2 wide foundation road. If done correctly, you shouldn't have anything sticking out. I just did some tests. Feel free to hop on my discord and we can throw some screenshots back and forth.

Thank you Android :)

@@relyengaming No no no, thank YOU for this guide!

@@theandroid1575 Your welcome, I'm glad you found this little guide helpful :)

Sorry for the late reply. Make sure you are holding CTRL when attempting to rotate foundations and catwalks for more fine-grain control of the rotation. With foundations you should get 5 degree increments of rotation and with catwalks, you'll get 10 degree increments.

@@relyengaming So this is what I was doing, and it didn't seem to work. Maybe a mod conflict? Gonna try again in vanilla

Asphalt roads can be snagged from the awesome shop. Then you just add them to your hotbar.

@@relyengaming ty so much, been wrecking my brains all day over it lol

@@relyengaming oh yea i almost forgot, great video and subscribed.

Ah yes, for some of the guides i've done, I've used a mod called PAK. It has a flying command along with others. I don't use them in my playthrough world, but they make demonstrating stuff in certain guide videos a little easier.

You can look at it, but I think the new version about the foundation may cause it not to work. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nb-Bm7OU1b3VeGQ.html

Yea, as Hans Li said, that video covers how to do a decent curved ramp. My follow up roads video covers how to do the pillar side walls for it as well as fixing the ramp issue.

This is pretty much an issue with vehicles on foundations. It’s the one thing I want fixed, as it would make driving on your hard work that much more enjoyable.

I know the Dev’s have started they aren’t against doing roads. It’s just a matter of priorities and making sure the UX isn’t painful.

Well, I wouldn't mind some better tools and smoother roads. I still want to see the explorer run better on foundations. That said, until they add roads, the folks that really want them will find ways to do it. You can easily keep it much more simple by sticking to a grid. This was an attempt to combine several methods to create something that goes the extra mile :) Well, at least until they implement something more official (if they do).

No, 5 degree is the minimum as far as I am aware. Although, I’ve been surprised before.

Blueprints definitely made it easier, I have another more recent video where I did all this in blueprints. Definitely a huge time saver over my original methods in this video, although these methods are still useful in situations the blueprints don't quite cover. I'm looking forward to the U8 blueprint changes, will definitely help with some of the blueprint quirks.

Yea, freeform was definitely part of the solution. Just a different method.

Yea, I've heard that a lot, but so far, the developers don't have any plans to add roads specifically in 1.0. Maybe after 1.0 it could happen. My blueprint video shows how to do all these roads with blueprints, which can save a chunk of time over the original DIY method in this video. But, it's still good to know the stuff in this video, as blueprints won't cover every single situation and being able to touch it up helps.

Absolutely, there are many ways to approach this. This leading to unique and wonderfully crafted solutions.

Sometimes when you hold control it is rotated on top of itself. You just have to rotate it into position,

Depends which part... roads are quick to build.. Depending on what barriers you go with can be time consuming

Yea, it really depends how far you take it. The example build I made is certainly a little more work than some straights with a curve here or there to get around obstacles. But It was more of a demonstration of what is possible. That said the techniques in the video still have used outside of road building Good luck!

Sure, I’ll throw something together and let you know.

The road foundations are Asphalt, you can unlock them from the Awesome shop.

If you are trying to stay on grid, then the Radial (quickly explained at the start of the video) method is the way to go. I would normally do 15° turns (3 clicks) and then go out by 4. Otherwise, the catwalk method does 10° turns, so you just need 9 turn segments to turn 90°.

@@relyengaming sorry. I explained wrong. I wanted to make the 90 degrees curve, like the blueprint road video. Sorry my english

@@Miitras The 90° in the blueprints is the radial method, 15° (3 clicks) and go out 4 foundations (including center). In the blueprints I believe I left a 90° template, which is a single foundation with some pillars. Just attach a foundation to the bottom of each pillar and extend out 3 foundations, makes making the 90° turn much faster. This template is also how I was able to build the blueprint, since you can't do the foundation turns in the corner. I built the template in the middle of the BP machine, then used it in a corner to build the curve. The outer pillars are just the simple quick method, things line up nicely. The inside pillars is custom done, but I left a template for them as well in the blueprints.

@@relyengaming thanks

There is a fairly easy way to deal with the z-fighting by using a pillar to raise up the foundation by like 0.01. Which fixes the issue :P Really opens up curves for other builds.

What part are you having issues with? I was building roads on the experimental version, so I’m fairly certain they still work. (Granted I haven’t tried on the most recent patch 😅)

I hear that a lot, one could hope. But hopefully it will be a flexible enough system to support everyone’s different ideas.

I am not a fan of it either, but it’s barely noticeable with asphalt. Someone found you can drop a pillar on the center of a foundation, remove the foundation and then snap a new foundation to the pillar.. this raises the foundation by like .01 and causes it to sit above the others. Thus, removing the z-fighting ugliness.

Unfortunately no, not with the current foundations available, as much as I wish there was. That said, with certain mods, such as the micromanager mod, there might be a creative way to achieve something similar. But I haven't been playing with it.

@@relyengaming Sadge. But its a Mod, that already makes it vulnerable to dicontinuation or Updates

Agreed, but that's why I stuck to vanilla methods for these roads. While we can't get a good curved ramp, we can still create some pretty great looking roads.

there is, found a way myself, will be doing a tips video on it soon.

@@Mgsgenesis I look forward to seeing it!

Lol, sorry if I was talking too fast. As for beam build modes, when you are building them, hit the R button to switch the build mode for beams.

Lol, Maybe at some point :)

Always a Maybe :P

When you rotate your foundation (or walkway), just hold CTRL to have a finer control of the rotation. You should be able to get 5 degree turns with foundations and 10 degrees with walkways.

@@relyengaming thankyou appreciate your help 🙂

Nothing wrong with that ;) there is beauty in chaos.

What isn't working specifically?

@@relyengaming when i try to build inside curve they come out broken

​@@mr.belizarAre you referring to the simple method or the more advanced method. I just jumped in and tested the advanced method and it works fine. The simple method, I had to remove a foundation or two to get the proper snapping points. But it still worked. The key is that they should be 4m in length during the turn and they should overlap. If they look broken as beams, they'll look broken as pillars. Guess I'll play with it a little more and see if I can find any quirks.

@@relyengamingвon't worry. I've already found the solution - I downloaded your blueprints )))

@@mr.belizarlol yes, that is definitely an easier solution.

I'm sure if there is enough demand the developers would consider it. Be sure you upvote a relevant post on the Satisfactory questions site. That's what the developers definitely look at. That said, it doesn't appear like more specific road features are coming in Update 6 (at least from what we know). So, if you want some roads, this is a good way to get them now. Also, the techniques in this video can be used for more than just roads. You could certainly use them in various ways on factory designs :) There are a couple of mods as well you can look to for roads. The X3 Roads mod recently got updated for U5. It has some great stuff in it, no specific curves types, but the concepts in this video would work for this mod as well. It even has 3x3 and 6x6 foundation templates (just very big and road painted foundations). You could even use the 3x3 for larger turns if you used 6 catwalk lengths instead of 2. The Explorer runs very well on these large templates due to less foundation seems, the 6x6 template feels almost like ground terrain. If my KZfaq playthrough wasn't trying to stick as close to vanilla as possible, I'd definitely use them. I also think there is another roads mod that does allow some form of spline curves. I'm not a big fan of the look, but certainly an option. There is a Train Skins mod as well, which basically skins the trains and tracks. There is a Truck and Road skin option, so you can make your trains and tracks look like trucks on a curvy road. Definitely an option for fans of trucks/roads, but don't want to deal with the hassle of setting it all up. Also, there is the Colony mod, which has a bunch of other stuff. But there is some form of curvy road you can setup in it.