"You can call me Hachi, the best CO there ever was!" God, before deploying 3 battleships in one turn to shoot a single 1hp infantry.

It's finally here!!!

The only choice you need to make as Hachi is whether to build 2 megatanks or 3 neotanks on the front line during Merchant Union.

Ah yes, the comedically unbalanced joke characters / epic overwhelming world leaders and villains tier

I feel like Sensei has his super-strong footsoldiers because he's a paratrooper, and so like Sami he belongs to a branch of the special forces. Them being stronger than Sami's probably comes from IntSys going "well they don't have the capture bonus, so..." without really thinking through the impact of just being able to get a whole bunch of free infantry from a two-star COP.

Hachi was definitely not designed for competitive play or even casual play. He was designed for "hey you know this kinda fun war room map? Let's just spam 4 neotanks in 1 turn"

If it wasn’t for the unit cap and powers getting more expensive, Sensei could honestly be above Hachi. Also, you get to choose what side of the map you play on, make sure your opponent’s sensei is on the North, North-West, and West. This is because the way you beat sensei is by preventing him from getting his power until you’re close to the unit cap. If he has 47 units, he’ll only spawn 3 infantry that spawn top row from left to right and go down. On the flip side, you want the opposite for your own sensei, where even if you’re close to the unit cap, you should try to pick the South, South-East, and East sides.

I still miss and dredge AW2 Gigachad Sturm but this version of him is probobly for the best

Up to Colin, significant skill difference can still close up the imbalance of the CO, but for Hachi, it doesn't matter. You can only lose if you do so intentionally.

Oh boy, I've been waiting for tips from Deejus so I can finally improve my Hachi play! 15:25 Got it, thanks!

You cannot defeat the Hachiman trail, our supply lines use other nations to bypass map boundaries!

What a beautiful thumbnail

Lets gooooo. Finally this series comes to an end. Also please keep doing the weird voices and strange pictures, they are amazing

Great video deej! Sad that this series ended but it was really good. You know the best way to enjoy t0 is by playing team battles or huge free for all. It is so fun. You can try interesting combos like grit atrilleries + kanbei infantries. I am a Grit main (played more than 100 matches as grit which is more than 50% of my total matches played) and it is really fun to play against other broken cos. You should give it a go sometime!

Good Sturm analysis, it's worth pointing out that interrupting Sturm caps are much harder because of his defense, making his early aggro even stronger

Editing is bomb diggity bananas as always.

It's Finnaly here!

Let's gooo Tier 0 finally!

5:36 from the few games I used Sturm, yeah COP is enough... Unless you face Javier in FoW. God, that is a pain to push, literally every SCOP lets me inch forward vs his SCOP. Also it forces you to play with more tanks and less artillery because Javier laughs at indirects.

Man...Loved the edits!!

1:21 "Your economics is merely an opinion. one I happen to disagree with"

Great vid! I'd love to see some map analysis vids or something to replace this series now that it's over!

Xenogenesis? That's a banger

Above this tier is Javier with 4 comtowers, who is functionally unbeatable then, there is Javier with 9 comtowers, who's loss is basically entirely theoretical and based off of using global damage to reduce the terrain defence then there's Javier with 10 comtowers. No force on earth can beat him.

as a kanbei main i am offended that you cant pronounce my favorite character correctly

I missed these, super useful. (sensei -> kanbei they are pronounced the same)

Video idea, can you do a video on if you had to create a custom unit for each CO. I only ask because I was thinking if they added a sniper style infantry unit, who would get it Sammy or Grit. 👍

I was playing high funds in the global league as Sensei on a map where there an island in the middle with like 6 cities he could reach in one turn due to his transport movement, but other COs need two turns. Incredibly broken. My opponent broke through my lines, I popped my Super Power, it's like a brand new army, I got like 4 shots on tanks with the mech produced and wiped out his attempt to capture anything on the middle island with the mech produced there too. Fun CO to play, but I doubt it's so fun to play against lol. It was all but over by day 12.

That Sturm voice 😆

Sensei's copter have 50% chance of 1HKO other copters, with a com tower it is guaranteed, so you basically don't need AA until places comes in action

Hachi mains in shamples lol

13:22 ah yes the famed developers of advance wars, game freak

Also disagree with Tier 0 not being played in Global League. I remember having GL matches that had some Tier 0 COs allowed. Granted, it was very very rare and it may or may not be High Funds (I don't remember exactly but I don't thinkg it was High funds) but it does happen.

0:40 Mangs is going to find a different co-host for next tournament

Hachi is pretty much a tier on his own as all of the other T0 CO has a low chance of winning against him. His D2D power is kind of similar to Sasha (albei a measily 1.1% better) giving him some potential early logistic advantage as well as possibly deploying vehicles a turn earlier than normal. However, this also causes the side effect of having his CO meter charge 90% slower, so it feels like his SCOP requires 5.5 stars rather than 5 stars. Hachi favors maps that has 3 or less bases because other CO that isn't Sensei will have trouble getting the unit count out exasperating Hachi's ability to break the unit count flow where maps with 4 bases or more dilutes his unit count advantage. He also favors maps that has safe city near contested ones as he can use those safe cities to deploy units to the front line earlier essentially giving the middle finger to logistics. Finally he is somewhat less viable (but still busted) in small maps where he can potentially be rushed (likely by Kanbei and Sturm) and have to play at a big disadvantage before he can even get his SCOP up.

And now i'd actually really like to see commentary on a Kanbei v. Colin match. Though this makes it sound like Kabei would probably not fair well against the sheer economic might of Colin.

Actually Intelligent Systems are the developers of Advance Wars. Although both Gamefreak and Intelligent systems are well known for their balancing issues.

I'm curious, if Sturm was not nerfed in AWBW, and had his full 120/120 stats like in AW2, plus the CO power tweaks like in AW2 do you think he would be a match for Hachi? I always viewed these two as two sides of the same coin. Hachi wins by being able to build more powerful units and by overwhelming his opponent with sheer weight of numbers. His units are standard but he can afford more of them, and deploy them to the frontlines when needed, allowing him to continually keep the pressure on. He is hands down the most powerful CO in AWBW. On the other hand, we have a tactically superior CO, with the most broken Units in the game hands down. All terrain equals 1 movement, making him very capable of controlling engagements. His units are just better, with 20% extra defense, and 20% extra attack for no additional cost (just like Javier). His super power will absolutely annihilate entire clumps of units, and it would also buff his unit stats for a turn in AW2. My preference between these two was always AW2 Sturm, and I believe unless the map is really specific (like only having one base and a ton of income) Sturm is the better pick. I want your input though.

I would have preferred AW2 Sturm was kept for AWBW for 1 serious and 1 humor reason Serious: contends with Hachi for the (limited) tier 0 matches and he can literally be banned from any match unless players agree to use him or use him as a handicap Humor: seriously, how funny would it be to watch a mirror match if AW2 Sturm? Like full map range recons, meteors flying everywhere, thanos and darth vader memes all over the community. Just saying, give it a thought

You dint mentioned Nell, but ill tell why she isnt that strong of Tier 0, but first we need to understand why Nell is broken Every RPG plays around with RNG to make engagements always seen diferent to one tho other, and the fact that Nell controls it just makes her pretty broken But not as broken people think she is, you wont notice her +10 luck on the day-to-day all that much, it just makes coinflips ( like a 95% ) *more likely* (not 100% guaranteed), what shines bout her is her SCOP, since she can pretty much take any engagement... if you're lucky, because the chance of you getting a lowroll still there, just ready to betray you at the worst moment Dont get me wrong, it isnt that Nell is bad, but she isnt as broken as people paint her as

These guys are so broken, even tho I like the design of most of them. About Nell: I don't think she even belongs in tier1. I can't see her beating tier 1 CO'S: Hawk who has a more reliable firepower boost, Sasha outspamming and deny her the SCOP, Javier and Von Bolt doing great against luck damage with their defense boost. Also I feel like there is something different with her luck on the awbw site compared to the original game or maybe I only had bad luck so far. Playing her feels underwhelming for me most of the time.

If you want a challenge with these guys download the War Room hack mod and try to beat Caulder on Unholy Alliance

Luck? Mobility? Discipline? Money? No, the true king is........ free WiFi.

Hacki kambai tag be brocken tho

I play with a friend less experiment than I am so I choose in one tier weaker. He tried Kanbei and Sasha is a viable counter. Easy tech up and no SCOP. No easy win indeed.

Advance Wars 2 Sturm with 120/120 vs Hachi, who is more broken?

Tier 0 when?

Wouldn't Catherine/Nell be Beth or something? Sami would be a better Summer. (Didn't see the others before, sorry.)

if nell is not that good why is she banned? she is my favorite CO T.T

How does a match go when two skilled players both use Hachi?

So AWBW uses Advance Wars 1 Sturm, then put him in the banned tier anyway? :/

hachi might beat everyone in tier 0, but what about sasha? their d2ds are basically the same, and sasha gets 10% attack/defense every other turn

Con Bay

Why no ones is talking about the old Sturm.... I prefer that tier 0

I’m kinda surprised you didn’t talk about 2T Javier. He has a strong case for being the best CO in the game, up there with Hachi.

I understand that AWBW is trying to be as faithful as possible to the original games, but perhaps it might not be such a bad idea to nerf those COs. Let's consider Colin, for example. His mechanics could be interesting: you're enticed to get greedy and save funds, in order to get the most benefit out of his power. But if you're too greedy, you'll get punished. This CO should be all about handling a weak early-game / day-to-day and mounting a counter-attack when you get to use the power. Unfortunately, as things stand, he is completely game-breaking, so even if you like the Colin concept, you never get to play him. If he got nerfed into a lower tier, for example by decreasing his day-to-day stats and increasing his power cost, he could lead to interesting games. And people who like his character would get to play him once in a while. I mean, as a Sturm fan, I probably wouldn't even have considered playing AWBW if he had had his AW2 stats, and got perma-banned as a result. I'm glad I can at least play him in T1 once in a while, without feeling I'm making the game unfair. (In Colin's case, it doesn't even make sense for him to be this strong, since he is, lore-wise, an inexperienced CO.)

As broken as hachi is, Sturm in advanced wars 2 was still more broken. 20% firepower boost instead of reduction turns him from meh to incredible.

AWBW could nerf them and move them to tier 1. Now they are wasted and forever banned in league.

Advance Wars was developed by Intelligent Systems, not Game Freak.

"Hi, I'm here to check myself in for the mental institution." "Uh oh, did you lose as Colin again?" "Yes, but my opponent was Grimm..." "OH @#*$ SON! You're never going to leave here...ever!"

Ok, so this is a pretty hot take, but I'm fairly certain: Granted you have an airport and you are playing in fog, this is the list from strongest to weakest 1-Sensei 2-Hachi 3-Kanbei 4-Colin

TBH colin is stronger than Hachi imo. This has been tested quite a few times and colin just stomps. He has too much presence and his super actually GIVES him damage while hachi just makes more units that just add onto colin's power spam. Its made much, much worse by the fact that hachi needs to really save up to make the most out of his super while colin doesn't. Colin also has a regular power on top of that, hachi really only has his super tbh. This doesn't mean that Hachi isn't filthy af, just that Colin is that much more broken most of the time. The only exception to this rule really is on smaller maps where colin can't build up his super and take advantage of how strong it is. It's funny because colin doesn't really outnumber his opponent, he out techs them, but against hachi that advantage is moot so if he cannot effectively use his super then he loses to hachi. In most cases, Colin would win though. Edit: Also Sturm dumpsters on just about everyone. In the hands of the AI he's pretty stupid, in the hands of a player just the fact that he's unaffected by terrain is completely F'in busted. Then he gets defenses boosts on top of that for MP instead of attack boosts and it just gets dumb. It's not even about his super, his day to day power is just an adder on roids. Go check out some of the games with top players using sturm versus others. His recons are stupid af. Good luck capping any properties with recons on roids rolling around. . .

Please just stick with saying "Con-bay". You know its right and Mangs needs to learn "Can-buy" nonsense is wrong and dumb.

I'am really curious how Advance Wars Reboot Camp is going to handle MP with these CO. Will there be bans to choose for the host ? Will the meta be a fuck fest of Sensei/Kambei ? Will they nerf CO's ? I doubt it.