Insane Advance Wars Games: Tordread Vs 渡 (Fog: Cross-Country Rivalry)

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Deejus Productions

Deejus Productions

Күн бұрын

Name a better combo than base light and fog...and the legendary Max vs Eagle matchup.
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0:00 Intro
6:22 The GAME

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@AetherVA
@AetherVA Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is a renaissance painting! Absolute perfection!
@nelsonmatos5948
@nelsonmatos5948 Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail made me click sooooo fast! I knew some baboon game was afoot.
@Jamieboi1989
@Jamieboi1989 Жыл бұрын
absolute babboons! 😂
@AdvanceWarrior
@AdvanceWarrior Жыл бұрын
14:47 "This is where big boys are made." *Builds a big boy* Deejus: '_'
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
Haha just the wrong big boy!
@Capris9x
@Capris9x Жыл бұрын
This is such a great example to show that you need to maintain pressure with your capture game throughout the entire match, especially if you're overextending. Even the best of the best players make that mistake.
@rip3
@rip3 Жыл бұрын
1 hour long Max vs Eagle? good lord there's gonna be 100 deaths on each side minimum and something tells me this won't be the last we'll be seeing of this matchup :>)
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
No comment
@FlippingNinjaFtw
@FlippingNinjaFtw Жыл бұрын
You can call the Chinese player 'Du' or 'Lance' since the Chinese character 渡 is transliterated as "Dù" in Pinyin and this is also the mainland Chinese localized name of the character known as "Lance" in Pokemon (the Elite Four/Champion guy with the Dragonnites). So basically if you want to pronounce the name in Chinese it's "Dù" but if you want to use the meaning behind the username it would be "Lance". Note: the actual meaning of the Chinese character "渡" has nothing to do with lances or spears or anything of the sort. That's just some random name the English localizers came up with because it's a cool sounding name. Lance's actual name is Wataru (ワタル) and the equivalent Japanese character for 渡 in Kanji would also be pronounced Wataru, so even though 渡 is "Du" and not "Wataru" in Chinese the Chinese localization makes perfect sense while the English localization is completely arbitrary like most western localizations are.
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
TIL!
@MrUltrapyro
@MrUltrapyro Жыл бұрын
15:35 You were almost right about the fun fact: Copters do not do as much damage to recons as compared to tanks on recons. The difference is that the second comparison is tank on recons, not copters on tanks as you checked in your visual. Copter on recon = 49-57% Tank on recon = 76-84%
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the catch! I knew it was off haha
@Mario-kf3ej
@Mario-kf3ej Жыл бұрын
I dont even play this silly game but I just enjoy your commentary , hope your channel grows as it is entertaining even if you don't play Advanced Wars. Those monkeys jumping had me cackling.
@stellarkym
@stellarkym Жыл бұрын
You should play it now Mario. It's really enjoyable win or lose 🥰
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Жыл бұрын
Sign up for egg cup 2! It's a greta gake and community over at awbw... if you have time to play 😅
@skelehedron3070
@skelehedron3070 Жыл бұрын
I love big crazy violent games like this. The amount of engagements that occurred was just insane. This is especially cool also because these are 2 top tier players, which makes it more entertaining.
@HappySquid89
@HappySquid89 Жыл бұрын
A wise man once said: "My fault earlier, shame on me once. Bababa! Shame one me twice, I'm not doing it."
@DEATHRAGE157
@DEATHRAGE157 Жыл бұрын
"If you want to get into me? Come and get it"-Deej. Man i can see you are keeping the Sussy saying tradition alive lmao
@kylenclarke240
@kylenclarke240 Жыл бұрын
Another banger. Thanks for the Sunday pick up man!
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
Any time my dude!
@stellarkym
@stellarkym Жыл бұрын
Alright ..Perfect for my midnight snack. Let the tanks deploy!
@warpuppy4528
@warpuppy4528 Жыл бұрын
That was an amazing match. I'm pretty sure if I was on either side of that game there would have been several points that I would have resigned, but they fought to the biter end.
@jonathanstark6159
@jonathanstark6159 Жыл бұрын
What a game! One of the better ones I have seen in a while. And 52 days?! My baboon brain with subway would only last till 30 days max.
@napalmcannon2513
@napalmcannon2513 Жыл бұрын
I gotta say the CO info portraits you have look really good!
@randomprecision.
@randomprecision. Жыл бұрын
"Chimpy saw that and he was like...oohAHHHHHHH!!!!!" hahaha every video has me in stitches
@manghariz2211
@manghariz2211 Жыл бұрын
Your new style thumbnail get my baboon-brained approval 👍
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
Hiring a graphic artist paying off '-'
@manghariz2211
@manghariz2211 Жыл бұрын
@@DeejusProductions a graphic artist? Well it is paying dividends right now, Give him a pat in the back man,
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Жыл бұрын
​@@DeejusProductions looks like that thumbnail brought in new viewers too 👍 Just want to add that i hope you show your game from the egg cup 2 and other tourneys. Doesn't have to be a banger, even a steamroll would be good to watch as you explain your thought process and critique the opponent.
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
@@turbo8628 DW some tourney games are coming win or lose :O
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Жыл бұрын
@@DeejusProductions hope you go far. In deejus we trust!
@royalghost4914
@royalghost4914 Жыл бұрын
At first when I saw the thumbnail, I thought it was finally your long awaited match against R, if you know what I mean 👀 But I am not complaining about an hour long video of my new favourite matchup. 14:45 "This is where big bois are made" He took your words to the heart and built the big boi lmao 32:29 Omg this cracked me up so hard. I was not expecting something so hilarious out of nowhere lmao Also the random Mangs comments were funny as heck as well XD I feel like this video features all the reasons I love advance wars. From calculated tactical moves to baboonian throws. Again a big THANK YOU for all your efforts Deej. I really really love your content and appreciate you for doing it. Btw Deej I can't help but draw similarities between you and Levy from Gotham Chess, the chess streamer of the year. Idk but you two seem very different and very similar at the same time. You both value humility and you both give similar reactions to some situations. Do you perhaps know him? If yes, do you take some inspiration from him? If no, I suggest you check him out. I am sure you'll like his content.
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
pssst-next sunday
@AdvanceWarrior
@AdvanceWarrior Жыл бұрын
@@DeejusProductions👀
@thebrazillianguytm2186
@thebrazillianguytm2186 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Ax and Meagle fighting, my favorite match-up
@PornTrouT
@PornTrouT Жыл бұрын
Just finished up with my studies and lo and hehold 1-hour of guaranteed Banging. Nice.
@mrdeadscott8270
@mrdeadscott8270 Жыл бұрын
Amazing match to watch, a real slugfest. Thanks again.
@jessepunch8945
@jessepunch8945 Жыл бұрын
This was the best game you’ve covered so far
@ManaNek
@ManaNek Жыл бұрын
This map is the bane of my existence, thanks for the upload as I was floundering on this map before 😊
@Moximav
@Moximav Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail is amazing, commentary is great and very entertaining, game is a banger. I love your videos man
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words man!
@Gatitasecsii
@Gatitasecsii Жыл бұрын
I like the CO cards you added, very nice.
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
Thanks dude, all credit to Cynic!
@lilgator91
@lilgator91 Жыл бұрын
Loved the chill latin beats at the start of the match, deej
@adude1237
@adude1237 Жыл бұрын
Nice electro swing! Great stuff.
@mohammadderbas3754
@mohammadderbas3754 Жыл бұрын
Banger thumbnail as usual
@hekkaz77
@hekkaz77 Жыл бұрын
Love the shade thrown at mangs😂
@kaio0777
@kaio0777 Жыл бұрын
Max blast is a blast that was a great scop pop off
@PICADALOL
@PICADALOL Жыл бұрын
Certified banger!!
@monsterchief117
@monsterchief117 Жыл бұрын
This is some Rise of the Planet of the Baboons shit here
@ShutUpSceneKid69
@ShutUpSceneKid69 Жыл бұрын
The craziest fumble and turnaround game. But shows the skills of correcting mistakes and maintaining composure
@aereonexapprentice7205
@aereonexapprentice7205 Жыл бұрын
A theory i concocted on why chinese player built tank before recon: Despite having more vision and move range, recon provides less presence and therefore flexibility than an early tank. An early recon is easily countered by an early tank, and a tank has more value in the later part of the game and in this small map. An early tank provides a more threatening presence that can make infantries retreat and enemy units take a more defensive stance, with the tank being able to switch to different side of the map if the odds are stacked and even sometimes surprise the enemy too. And in this particular map, early artillery seems more than guaranteed, and chinese player knew his early tank would meet less resistance and deny even more positions.
@getshulked7057
@getshulked7057 Жыл бұрын
Love your content Any idea if you'll do days of ruin match review again? I binged all of them, really fun to watch
@wallahitsnotmine4255
@wallahitsnotmine4255 Жыл бұрын
What a game! Man I don't think i would go this far. 18 days is already too much for me but 52 damn
@NEKOEVE
@NEKOEVE Жыл бұрын
Man what a game, but ya, capture and push back.
@Klyen2000
@Klyen2000 Жыл бұрын
The longer the game goes on the more bad gets lighning strike? True, BUT if you hold on to it and watch your opponent retreating till base range cause he knows he would be getting crused if he doesn't. Allows you to capture all the sweet income buildings to get a heavy advance =)
@LopsidedMoz
@LopsidedMoz Жыл бұрын
This is the highest skilled big baboon brain match I've seen
@codegeek98
@codegeek98 Жыл бұрын
31:48 is some serious 3 Stooges action lol
@aa01blue38
@aa01blue38 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Deejus didn't comment on all the chain skipping by Max, it almost gave me an aneurysm I know it's because Max needs to cap airport yada yada but I feel like the income loss might be more than the price or arty lol
@Bobby-ls4sk
@Bobby-ls4sk Жыл бұрын
I know I'm 3 months late, but 33:51 That copter was in a forest and surrounded by 3 of tordread's units, I don't see any way the max player could have vision on it, except by getting trapped with a unit on that city (which it was not the case since the AA could attack from it)
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
it was a trapped bug where the trapped unit only moves after the turn has ended
@zeroskill.
@zeroskill. Жыл бұрын
20:41 a bit of mangs rubbing off on you there
@corvoattano8567
@corvoattano8567 Жыл бұрын
"Thats a Mangs infantry its diddy dead next turn" Omfg lol
@marcmckenzie609
@marcmckenzie609 Жыл бұрын
Chimpy didn't convert his wins. Baboon battle was super fun, though.
@tyvoyt75
@tyvoyt75 Жыл бұрын
I miss artillery anonymous
@panthekirb7561
@panthekirb7561 Жыл бұрын
Chimpy 🔥🔥🔥
@NutsAndThighs
@NutsAndThighs Жыл бұрын
Oof lots of Mangs Infantry this game lol
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Жыл бұрын
I thought the idea of this matchup was for max to try and smash eagle before the scop and pushing forward. Allowing eagle to build made for a great game to watch though.
@OptimalOwl
@OptimalOwl Жыл бұрын
Hey Deej, in regards of that ceasefire in the south-east: Since 渡 had to move his copters diagonally across the entire map anyway, I wonder what would have happened if he'd pathed one of them to go through Tordread's less defended area in the south. Stopping to attack infantry would of course delay that copter from getting where it's needed. But just swinging a copter through that area wouldn't slow down its diagonal movement at all, and it might have spooked Tordread to divert some assets to that area and away from the main fight. Or, do you think it was wiser for 渡 to hold off until he was ready to actually attack and take those properties?
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352
@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that. While you certainly don't want to divert too much away from the main battle, being able to at least chip away on one side, particularly immediately after each push might have yielded something. Though it's easy for me to say that as I don't feel I have the patience or foresight to engage that match. Ahahah
@OptimalOwl
@OptimalOwl Жыл бұрын
@@lordbiscuitthetossable5352 Yeah, I would get steamrolled. I wasn't good at the game even when I played it, and that was many years ago on a cartridge. But I do wonder if it wouldn't have been a good idea to have a look-see without slowing down. Moving 8 left, then 8 up costs the same 16 move as moving left - up - left - and so forth.
@WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer
@WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer Жыл бұрын
Hey Deejus, maybe you could do a video on how to properly use eagle. He has the highest potential out of any Co, but he is also the hardest to use fully utilize since his only viable power is his Super Power and you have to have to play quite defensive:
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea!
@WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer
@WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer Жыл бұрын
@@DeejusProductions the title could be around the lines of: This is what keeps up my boy (Mangs) up all night - High IQ Eagle Fanboys
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Жыл бұрын
Could do that with every co. Game with good usage versus a game with bad usage. The max one could have the max player be ultra aggressive with tabk chains for the win and the bad game could be an early artillery
@WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer
@WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer Жыл бұрын
@@turbo8628 Yes you could do that for every Co. There are few guides on how to use properly Eagle, Drake, Jess, and Sonja. Eagle as I stated has the highest ceiling of any Co in the game on almost every map. The issue is that Eagle’s usage hits a hard wall (not ceiling) in play skills faster than most COs other than maybe Hawke. Deejus, Mangs, and other Grand Masters have mentioned briefly in their videos how terrifying Eagle can be in the right hands because of his Super. Being able to full utilizing Drake, you’re at minimum in the Top 15% skill of players, Eagle is at Top 5%. The only maybe harder is properly using Grimm which is Top 2%.
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Жыл бұрын
@@WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer i agree 👍 i think eagle would be a top pick for an anylsis. A series from a top player like deejus is begging to be made though. Or even one of those ranked videos. I feel like the co tiers are almost certainly spot on because experienced people have worked on them for over a decade, but i have never seen it explained in depth how and why they reached those conclusions.
@highnortheyp
@highnortheyp Жыл бұрын
Deejus really referred to the player as 'chimpy' for 60 mins straight 💀
@tt-rama2246
@tt-rama2246 Жыл бұрын
Very stally battle. Stally as Stalingrad.
@corvoattano8567
@corvoattano8567 Жыл бұрын
I clicked this before I even knew what it was. The thumbnail worked. (But the map/CO explanation is good so far too so keep it up ChimpDee)
@SnydeX9
@SnydeX9 Жыл бұрын
Was there a turn limit? Wild match.
@Flo-mz8ct
@Flo-mz8ct 10 ай бұрын
WaAAgohh time
@greyxwind
@greyxwind Жыл бұрын
based
@juiceboxxxxxxxx
@juiceboxxxxxxxx Жыл бұрын
Chimpy just never built any infantry after the early game. And the infantry he had left just hung out doing nothing. There were so many opportunities for him to capture properties if he had infantry to capture them with. I suspect he stayed in it for so long cause he only built vehicles and so he was able to keep smashing back and forth. But he could have won early if he just captured some properties.
@mrlucasftw42
@mrlucasftw42 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain something. In fog match, when a unit is in a forest, you need vision to attack it, correct? Because I've seen more than once in my matches, if I place a unit in a forest and kill off something, it can be shot without vision.
@andersalbertsson215
@andersalbertsson215 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was an air unit, they cannot hide in forest or reef tiles
@orangejuice3235
@orangejuice3235 Жыл бұрын
The interface used to bug the other way, where you still had vision of a unit that was sat in the forest a previous turn, but had moved and was no longer there. A refresh fixed it, but it gave you an error when you tried to attack it. With the replay viewer that Deej uses, they don't show units getting trapped, which is why vision is kinda funky until the unit pops in at the end of the turn. I've never had the problem you're describing, though. The only exceptions to hidden vision on forests are air units who don't get the benefits, and Sonja powers. Otherwise they need an adjacent unit to see and begin an attack. Chances are you're just missing something, but if you think that something's wrong, you should bring it to the discord and post some screenshots. You'll get a quicker answer there, and they're usually more than happy to help.
@TheGielnik
@TheGielnik Жыл бұрын
How does the copter at 33:00 see the tank?
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
Tank got trapped but didnt show it, you can see it appear at 33:43
@ColbyP4Fan
@ColbyP4Fan Жыл бұрын
I'm at 23 min and I completely agree. I'm like damn, well, Max lost. Guess that's the video.... I'm not even halfway into it. Interesting. Wonder what happens.
@beansconfrijolitos996
@beansconfrijolitos996 Жыл бұрын
32:59 How did that copter got vision on Chimpie's tank??
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
Tank got trapped but didnt show it, you can see it appear at 33:43
@AstroKFP
@AstroKFP 8 ай бұрын
32:59 wait. HOW did he hit that orange tank in the forest with the copter? Am I missing something?
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions 8 ай бұрын
Yeah there is a bug with "trapped" units in the replay viewer that shows their movement at the end of the turn rather than when it actually happened. So a trapped unit revealed the tank in the forest before the copter attack but didnt load till the end of the turn
@JerryTheTankYank1776
@JerryTheTankYank1776 Жыл бұрын
Rip the neotanks.They’ve lasted so long :(
@mpar8107
@mpar8107 Жыл бұрын
Before the start of the match, I don't know if it happens or if it gets talked about, theoretically if you are exerting pressure on the far airport, couldn't you delete the missile and capture that one if you don't want to give up pressure my using an arty? Low ELO, so maybe that explains this reasoning.
@DeejusProductions
@DeejusProductions Жыл бұрын
That won't work vs experienced players because the missile your airport covers is much closer to the enemy's base
@mpar8107
@mpar8107 Жыл бұрын
@@DeejusProductions Thankfully in my low-level baboon match we both beelined for the far-side com towers and I was able to secure both airports without an arty. Thanks for the response. Definitely need to read the maps better if I want to improve.
@Flo-mz8ct
@Flo-mz8ct 10 ай бұрын
Medium tanks were wrong, better go for bomber with eagle
@guineboud1347
@guineboud1347 Жыл бұрын
I don't think you can beat Max as another T2 CO by never building indirects
@swagmaster2003
@swagmaster2003 Жыл бұрын
2:29 Lightning Strike costs 9 stars, not 10.
@Klyen2000
@Klyen2000 Жыл бұрын
Love to see how he uses Mangs suicide manoveurs as a bad example and throwing salt into the wound 😂
@davidwhidden9337
@davidwhidden9337 Жыл бұрын
I am shocked. 30:00 - 37:12 All that stall play, and no one advanced towards the bottom.
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Жыл бұрын
I thought for sure that at least one copter was going to head directly west instead of north-west. Definitely opportunities to do so as they had tank backup a few times and could have had it several times more when they balled up at the top.
@davidwhidden9337
@davidwhidden9337 Жыл бұрын
@@turbo8628 I understand why they didn't. Focus on one front, but 5 infantry just sat there jamming out.
@turbo8628
@turbo8628 Жыл бұрын
@@davidwhidden9337 few times where max backed up i figured they was going to make that push on the southern properties. I felt like the eagle player should have pushed when the recon went in.
@gabrielbitencourt3729
@gabrielbitencourt3729 Жыл бұрын
so sad to see Eagle winning, i hate him and his busted power. i was cheering for Max the whole time. so many devastating max forces but still cant beat a extra turn. anyway, cool commentaries specially about the importance of converting
@TheHornetSquad
@TheHornetSquad Жыл бұрын
that 1 hour bake time before the resigna cooks, classic instructional game
@arcuscotangens
@arcuscotangens Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with CP? Makes me think of cheese pizza.
@bibigreen6533
@bibigreen6533 Жыл бұрын
Woah Lightning Strike is stupid.
@flaminghotstreak
@flaminghotstreak Жыл бұрын
Tordread wins
Schlieffen in Airship Escort is a bit unfair
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