Obviously I still don't have a 100% grasp on the subject :-) But still, thanks a ton for your suggestion, it's made me a very happy guy! Although I'm a happy guy that's at a shortage of patchbay connections...

You are most welcome. We are all learning every day. I just visited my fellow friend at his Sound Signal Studio and learnt how to do special vocal effects that wondered how they did it. :)

Oh man, vocals are my nemesis! I've tried every tip, trick, and suggestion out there, and I still end up with unremarkable vocals (or some sort of weird sounding chorusy monstrosity). If I end up going exclusively instrumental, you'll know why!

your vocals from what ive heard sounded good

I'm having issues with my Focusrite 18i20 syncing/locking with my Beheringer ADA8200. I've set my Focusrite as the master, ran ADAT out from the Behringer, and into the Focusrite. I'm having issues getting the Behringer to lock with the Focusrite, and get signal from the Bheringer into StudioOne. any help would be appreciated!

Great, so glad to help!

That is interesting I have an Apollo twin duo and purchased this to increase my input count to 10 are you saying I can take advantage of the 8 outputs as well? Because just connecting the Apollo via optical and the 8200 I only seem to have access to the extra input via UAs digital mixer called Console 2

Not sure, but I wouldn’t expect you to be able to use the outs unless you connected them up with a second optical cable. Not really sure, though!

Why thanks!

Awesome, thanks so much! I'm definitely not a professional, just a huge geek about these things :)

You're very welcome, and thank you for watching!

Could you explain how to route the outputs for the ADA8200 in total mix to work with logic? I have the clock working as it should but I’m yet to get signal connected to the ADA8200

It's great to hear that this was helpful!

You can even get an adat splitter and thus keep the adat going to the interface as well

Does that make it possible to adjust the input gain and let the signal continue into a compressor via line out?

The ADA8200 is basically an add-on for an existing audio interface. So it won't be able to serve as a way to use an ADAT interface that has no connectivity to your computer. You'll need an interface that connects to your computer via USB and has ADAT inputs/outputs to use the ADA8200.

@@YHRS Thnanks! I called Focusrite and they confirmed that it can be done. I just need to get my Saffire Pro 40 hooked up to firewire long enough to change the routing internally from it's outputs to ADAT and then I can use one of their USB interfaces that has Optical on it and all channels will show up :) Much appreciated!

That's great to hear! Hope you're enjoying all those inputs ;)

Can I chain the two preamps together using the ADAT I/O’s. For example, connect the ADAT out from one preamp to the ADAT in of another and take the Adat out of that preamp into the ADAT in of my interface?

@@carrott0pgaming844 yes, but this way you will only be sending the clock from the Behringer, as the Adat Out of your second preamp will only carry 8 audio channels, which will be the ones integrated on it.

Hey, I have the same equipmet setup as you with the 1820, and I just got my 8200 in, but can't seem to get any output from the 8200 detected in my DAW. I would love to hear any insight you might have, or if you could share how you got yours to work it would be insanely helpful!

same here in cubase

@@AdrianRC991 I worked out why it's because I only had one day cable connected

@@digitaltrackz thanks man, i was thinking about that hehe

The ADA8200 is an add-on for an existing audio interface. You'll need an audio interface with ADAT inputs and/or outputs in order to connect the ADA8200 to your computer.

Nope, no need for drivers for the ADA8200, since it only connects to your audio interface and not directly to the computer.

Did you try this setup ? I want to use 4-ADA8200 if that is possible with the RME digiface USB. but concerned about how to make sure they all sync. Thanks

The only time I notice any latency is when I plug its digital input directly into its digital output and use the unit as an analog "pass through". The extra AD and DA conversion adds a slight amount of latency. But in normal everyday use as an expansion for my interface, I don't notice any latency on top of what the interface already incurs (about 3ms in and 3ms out).

As far as I understand it, if there are timing issues over ADAT, it would result in pops/clicks/dropouts in your audio. If you're not experiencing any of these issues then I think that you're in good shape and the clock sync is working.

Very good, glad you found it useful!

You can actually plug a TosLink cable from the ADAT input to the ADAT output, and it'll pass a signal from the preamp through to the analog output on the back. I learned that after I made this video.

You definitely can loop the ADAT out to the ADAT in with a TOSLink cable, and another TOSLink cable to link the ADAT in to the ADAT out. It'll pass the audio from the front panel inputs to the back panel outputs. There's a slight cost in latency in doing so, but it's not enough to cause problems. Just a little phase issues if you're using that alongside integrated preamps in an interface.

Thanks for the reply, I just tried it and it works. Hopefully you can adjust the latency in your daw if its to bad. Thinking about it the same amount of latency should occur even used the way it´s supoused to be used and hooked up. I mean first you have a short delay in ad converters going out of it through the adat out and the you get a short delay in your soundcard and then inside the computer and then from the comp out to the soundcard and in to the adat in on the ada8200 to the ad converter and out on the backside outputs. Let me see now if I got the chain right, yes I think I did. But that will show in time I guess, still it seems to be a supercool piece of hardware. In reality it turned out to be a very useful and flexible thing and specially for the price you pay for it. So I was dead wrong thinking it was useless lol.

Awesome! I hope it was helpful!

Thanks! Yes, the ADA8200 is still alive and well! It's been powered up pretty much 24x7 since I got it. I think that the only times I've ever turned it off were when I moved to a new house a couple of times :)

@@YHRS Cool! I've got one now :)

I use my ADA8200 every day, and I really like it. The preamps and converters can't quite compete with RME's Hammerfall converters and pristine preamps, but they're not bad by any means. I run my gaming computer's audio through a pair of line inputs on the ADA8200, so I listen to a lot of KZfaq, Media Player, and games through them every day and I think they're great. The Midas preamps are terrific for the money. They have a little less headroom than the RME preamps, so they'll start distorting as you push them hard. But I haven't had any need to push them hard, so no problem there.

Hello! I'm not sure I 100% understand the question. The gain knobs on the front of the unit control the input gain of each of the 8 analog inputs on the front of the unit.

Typically, only the headphone outputs are a stereo signal sent over a single cable. Everything else is individual mono inputs/outputs (at least anything I can think of off the top of my head at the moment). So any stereo signal would require a use of 2 channels: one for the left signal, one for the right signal.

@@YHRS thank you so much for replying, I realize after loads of research that this was probably an elementary question. I appreciate you being kind

That's great! There was some debate about whether the BNC cable is required. Apparently you could also sync the ADA8200 over ADAT, but I've been using the BNC cable. So I guess my answer is: maybe :)

That'd definitely strange. My UCX had a nice satisfying click when the TOSLink cables snapped into place. It did take a bit of force, but not so much that I thought that I was going to break it or anything. There might be some debris or something in there, although checking would be easier said than done, with the little hinged door in the way.

I'm about 50/50 on remembering to do that! It's defeating to spend time getting the phase all correct in the mic placement, then throw it all off by forgetting to do the ping detect.

We all forget brother! I do it myself sometime but after a few plays I notice something is off then I realize oh yea ping lol Keep doing what you are doing great job!!

not seen any ping in my DAW ?

@@feet57 Well since you didn't say what DAW you use there is no way we could help. You have to give us more information. Like the DAW you use and your interface and so on. But if you tell us we can help you figure it out

Yes, the outputs are 8 discrete channels. So you can send signal to each of them from your DAW. That'd be a good fit for a summing mixer.

Your Home Recording Studio thanks a lot man I appreciate your reply. Be on the lookout for a new summing box that’s hitting the market in the next month or 2. It’ll be called the SSU by NAT

This is an ADAT preamp, intended to be used with an audio interface that has ADAT in and out connectivity. But it could work with your mixer if you feed the ADA8200's ADAT input to its own ADAT output, which will pass through signal from the front preamps to the back outputs. Then you'd run XLR-TRS cables from the outputs to *line* inputs on your mixer.

I sure haven't noticed any noise from the outputs. I use the inputs very frequently, but I guess I don't use the outputs very often. But the few times I have used the outputs, they're just as quiet as I would expect them to be.

@@YHRS very good to know. I'm thinking about buying it

It can connect 8 XLR outputs from the back to anything that'll accept a line-level signal. So you could plug those into 8 line inputs on an audio interface. Just connect the ADAT input to the ADAT output, and it becomes a pass-thru from the preamps on the front to the line outputs on the back.

If undoing and redoing connections is a problem, you might take a look at a patchbay. That can make it much easier to "set and forget" the cables behind your setup. And if you need to change the routing, it's quick and easy with patch cables on the front of the patchbay.

@@YHRS good point. Thanks

It would work for adding 8 more inputs to the Twin, but the Twin doesn't have ADAT output so it wouldn't be able to add 8 more line outputs. But if all you need is 8 more preamplified input channels, then it should work fine.

Thanks alot appreciate your reply. Yes, I am hoping to add just one more mic to my setup for ultimately using 3 mics to record my acoustic guitar instead of two. :) So that should be perfect for my needs. Thanks! @@YHRS

Hey thanks! You'd plug your monitors into a pair of line outputs on the back of the ADA8200, and I'm assuming that the Digiface comes with TotalMix software. In TotalMix you'd designate a pair of outputs as "Main" outs. As for the PowerPlay, I'm not 100% sure since I've never played around with a headphone distribution amp. I'm sure that between TotalMix, the ADA8200 and the Digiface, you could find a way to get a couple of different cue mixes output from various pairs of outs on the Behri and feed those into the PowerPlay so everybody gets a "more me" mix. Well, I guess you'd get 3 individual mixes and a main out (that's 4 pairs of outputs altogether).

Thanks so much!!!

I removed the rubber covering, it worked....thanks for the videos

john snow awesome, I was just typing a comment to that effect :)

I think that's a great choice! I'm still enjoying my ADA8200 attached to my FireFace UCX after all these years. TotalMix just sees the inputs and output of the ADA8200 as extra inputs/outputs on the UCX. I just see them as 8 additional hardware inputs on the top row, 8 additional software playback channels on the middle row, and 8 additional hardware output on the bottom row.

Correct! The PC sees the 8 inputs on my interface, plus the 8 inputs from the ADA8200, for a total of 16 inputs. Same for outputs. It sees 8 analog outputs from my interface plus the 8 outputs from the ADA8200.

I think that should work. The only concern that I'd have is about the ProFire. It's an older unit, and I'd bet that M-Audio isn't still updating drivers for it. So there's a chance that Windows and Macs will eventually become incompatible with it (if that hasn't already happened).

Your Home Recording Studio thanks for the reply! Do you know of any other budget interfaces that could do that job? I know motu does but I've heard those can break easily.

MOTU has some great stuff, although my only experience with them was terrible (Ultralite Mk3 Hybrid on Windows 7 64-bit). But I know that lots of people happily use MOTU interfaces on both Mac and Windows and get great results.

In TotalMix, when you click on one of the hardware outputs, make sure that the associated software playback output fader is up. For instance, when I click on the AN 3 hardware output (bottom row), I make sure that the AN 3 software playback (middle row) fader is all the way up at 0dB. That definitely has thrown me for a loop more than once!

@@YHRS Thanks for your time and suggestion. Hope I can figure it out soon as outboard gear is sure enticing!! Salud...

I still use the BNC cable for my setup, but some of the comments here are saying that you can sync over ADAT via the TOSLink cable. I have yet to try that, but it seems possible, and that would negate the use for the BNC cable.

Yes I have the ada8200 connected using only the optical audio cable and have the word clock set up though the same wire. It is limited to 48khz tho if you’re used to a higher recording rate.

Indeed, I have both the ADAT in and ADAT connected to the ADAT in/out on my interface. From my DAW I can see all 8 ADAT inputs and all 8 ADAT outputs available to assign.

@@YHRS Many thanks - very helpful

Yes, it works great for this purpose. I've used mine quite a bit for looping in external gear for mixes. It has line inputs on the front, and line outputs on the back. That may not be the most convenient layout, but it works just fine!

@@YHRS OK. Thanks for clarifying. In your opinion is there any unit worth getting (even if more expensive) that has all the in's and outs on the back panel? Thanks again. Nice job. Phil

@@uptownphotography I've looked high and low for a simple AD/DA that has only line inputs and outputs on it, and there aren't a whole lot of them selling new nowadays. Most of what I can find have preamps and not just line inputs, which drives up the cost. There's the ART TubeOpto, Focusrite Clarett OctoPre, Focusrite Scarlett OctoPre, Midas XL48. For way more money you can look at the options from RME and Lynx. There are also some older and more affordable devices on the used market that I've looked at, like the Frontier Designs Tango 24, Marian Adcon, and one whose name escapes me...I'll edit this comment if I can remember what that thing was called... I've been eyeing the Ferrofish Pulse 16, which takes 2xADAT and converts them to 16 line inputs and 16 line outputs, but my current interface has 2xADAT I/O so I can take advantage of all 16 channels.

@@YHRS Thanks for the info. I am looking high and low too and the choices seem limited. I want to have a hybrid setup with my analog console and have access to some of my vintage out board gear. It just seems hard to find the unit I want with at least 24 in's and outs 9i prefer 32 in/out if possible) but i think I'd be happy with 24 in/outs...(TRS is what I would like also for connectivity). Thanks. Phil

Sure, any interface that has ADAT in/out would work the same way. You can set either the interface or the ADA as the master or the slave for the word clock. Just choose one to be the master, and the other becomes the slave, and set the switches accordingly.

@@YHRS thanks for taking the time! 👌

Thanks! Yes, the ADAT inputs and outputs will be visible in TotalMix, so you can route to/from them.

That's an excellent question. I would give it a try, but I've got everything unhooked and packed away for a move. I'll try it out here in a week or two once I'm moved and unpacked. I'm curious how it'd behave as well. I have a feeling that the whole system will stay at the same sample rate...I can't imagine that 2 different sample rates could be recorded at the same time (1 from the ADA and one from the RME), but I'd love to know for sure.

Thanks a lot for your quick answer take your time to reply with the tests I know how long it can take when you shift to a new place. Also please try to answer or do some others tests to reply to the following 2 questions as well: Question 1 : As you do a cross link between the ADAT IN / OUT do you get any audible delay. I’ll precise my question: Let’s say I plug in 8 analog inputs (From drums) to the front panel of the ADA8200. Then they will be converted to Digital (let’s say at 24 bit / 48 KHz). I think as per the specifications this process will take more or less 0.55 ms. These will be sent through ADAT to my RME interface (UFX). Then I’ll use “Totalmix software” to route these 8 signals (Drums) to the Corresponding ADAT OUT of the RME. These in turns will be sent to the ADAT in of the ADA 8200. Now at this step I’m able to plug in a PA system, compressor, external mixer or whatever to pick back the drums sound from the analog outputs of the ADA8200. My question is during this entire process with an internal routing, do you feel an audible latency ? Question 2 : If I need to add 2 ADA8200, do you think there is way to duplicate the signal coming from the RME Interface (like a multi BNC plug) ? Thanks again a keep uploading videos, you are really doing a great stuff my friend

It does appear that the BabyFace and BabyFace Pro have ADAT inputs and outputs, so you should be good to go!

You can use a single ADA8200 for each ADAT input/output that your interface has. You can't daisy-chain multiple ADA8200s together into a single ADAT input/output, though.

Thats to bad, that's what makes it not do good, while a same module from another brand has 4 fiberoptic connection this on only has 1 and there's no option or other module that behringer uses to do this.

Thanks! And yes, you can sync over ADAT instead of using the BNC cable.

@@YHRS thankx👍🏼

Since the ADA8200 is just an add-on for an existing audio interface, you'd use whatever monitoring control you already use for your audio interface. Personally, I use the Advanced Remote Control by RME, which controls volume and other functions of my FireFace UCX interface.